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  <title type="text">sympy Google Group</title>
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  This is the forum to ask any questions or discuss the sympy project. If you find it interesting, have any ideas, want to help, just write.
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  <updated>2010-01-06T04:03:41Z</updated>
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  <name>czbebe</name>
  <email>o...@bpe.es.osaka-u.ac.jp</email>
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  <updated>2010-01-06T04:03:41Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: diff(diff)</title>
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  Thanks Aaron, &lt;br&gt; To my needs, &lt;br&gt; import sympy &lt;br&gt; import math &lt;br&gt; diff(sympy.sin(x)*diff(u(x),x) ,x) &lt;br&gt; is a good choice because math functions are used in other places. &lt;br&gt; I will try this. &lt;br&gt; czbebe
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  <name>Aaron S. Meurer</name>
  <email>asmeu...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-01-06T03:11:43Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_frm/thread/ee60535c7ef5657f/7fc5c984863de126?show_docid=7fc5c984863de126</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: [sympy] diff(diff)</title>
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  I believe the problem lies here. You are importing math, which imports the math sin, which doesn&#39;t work with SymPy symbolic operations. You have some options: &lt;br&gt; - Don&#39;t import math. If you need to evaluate a floating point expression, use N() or .evalf(), as in sin(1.2).evalf(). If you need other things from math, do explicit imports instead of import *. Actually, it&#39;s best to use explicit imports anyway, especially if you are writing a script.
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  <name>czbebe</name>
  <email>o...@bpe.es.osaka-u.ac.jp</email>
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  <updated>2010-01-06T02:32:58Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">diff(diff)</title>
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  Dear members, &lt;br&gt; import sympy &lt;br&gt; import math &lt;br&gt; u = Function(&#39;u&#39;) &lt;br&gt; x = Symbol(&#39;x&#39;) &lt;br&gt; diff(diff(u(x),x),x) = D(u(x), x, x) ii is all right. &lt;br&gt; diff(x*diff(u(x),x),x) = x*D(u(x), x, x)+D(u(x), x) it is all right. &lt;br&gt; diff(sin(x)*diff(u(x),x),x) gives an error. &lt;br&gt; Can anyone show me the correct way to get a correct result ?
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  <author>
  <name>czbebe</name>
  <email>o...@bpe.es.osaka-u.ac.jp</email>
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  <updated>2010-01-04T09:36:44Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: diff f(x)</title>
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  Thank you for your reply. &lt;br&gt; I suceeded to run the code. &lt;br&gt; D(f(x), x) &lt;br&gt; How about second derivatives ? &lt;br&gt; I mean &lt;br&gt; diff(D(f(x), x),x) &lt;br&gt; Is there any way to get the answer ? &lt;br&gt; Thanks in advance, &lt;br&gt; czbebe
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  <name>smichr</name>
  <email>smi...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-28T14:11:08Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_frm/thread/6ed399f2c17be31f/897fc7f3ed3c85aa?show_docid=897fc7f3ed3c85aa"/>
  <title type="text">Re: diff f(x)</title>
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  On Dec 28, 12:04 pm, &amp;quot;czbebe_...@yahoo.co.jp&amp;quot; &amp;lt;czbebe_...@yahoo.co.jp&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; I get the following: &lt;br&gt; D(f(x), x) &lt;br&gt; Did you use f(x) or did you use f? Could you copy and paste the exact &lt;br&gt; input and output involved? That would me to understand what exactly &lt;br&gt; you are trying to do. &lt;br&gt; /smichr
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  <name>czbebe_oka@yahoo.co.jp</name>
  <email>czbebe_...@yahoo.co.jp</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-28T07:04:18Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">diff f(x)</title>
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  Dear members, &lt;br&gt; When function f is a function of x, sympy diff output is diff(f,x) = &lt;br&gt; 0. &lt;br&gt; I hope output should be dx(f). Is this output possible for current &lt;br&gt; sympy ? &lt;br&gt; czbebe
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  <name>Ondrej Certik</name>
  <email>ond...@certik.cz</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-26T21:32:55Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_frm/thread/e18f4004bd8bcf7c/a6ee91b2d231c1ee?show_docid=a6ee91b2d231c1ee"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [sympy] Re: [Ann] SymPy 0.6.6 released</title>
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  I made this: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1783&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; I just uploaded sympy-0.6.6 into Debian, so maybe it will get there &lt;br&gt; automatically (as into Ubuntu). &lt;br&gt; Done. I also updated live.sympy.org and pypi and freshmeat. &lt;br&gt; Thanks everyone for this release and especially Vinzent for managing it! &lt;br&gt; Ondrej
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  <name>Ondrej Certik</name>
  <email>ond...@certik.cz</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-23T19:51:11Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: [sympy] Re: removing the old assumption system - help request</title>
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  Yes, you should definitely meet and work together. It&#39;s very effective. &lt;br&gt; Ondrej
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  <author>
  <name>Ondrej Certik</name>
  <email>ond...@certik.cz</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-23T19:49:41Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_frm/thread/c0d7583b21344354/b27148cbe36ed165?show_docid=b27148cbe36ed165"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [sympy] a patch to examples/intermediate/mplot3d.py</title>
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  &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=1781&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Ondrej
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  <author>
  <name>Ronan Lamy</name>
  <email>ronan.l...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-22T10:11:39Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_frm/thread/afdb98252051f0ce/3dd3ba2a9a544b4b?show_docid=3dd3ba2a9a544b4b"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [sympy] Re: removing the old assumption system - help request</title>
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  Le mardi 22 décembre 2009 à 01:29 -0700, fab...@fseoane.net a écrit : &lt;br&gt; I would say that directly swapping out the old assumption system for the &lt;br&gt; new has failed, and that we therefore need to duplicate with the new one &lt;br&gt; everything the old one does. &lt;br&gt; With the holiday season, I won&#39;t be able to do much in the next 2 weeks.
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  <email>fab...@fseoane.net</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-22T08:29:52Z</updated>
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  <title type="text">Re: [sympy] Re: removing the old assumption system - help request</title>
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  On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:04:08 -0700, &amp;quot;Aaron S. Meurer&amp;quot; &amp;lt;asmeu...@gmail.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; work. &lt;br&gt; I am glad there is interest in this. I&#39;ve been busy lately moving to Paris, &lt;br&gt; but now I am settled so I&#39;ll get some time to work on this. &lt;br&gt; If anyone has patches on this, please give me your git repo and I&#39;ll review
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  <author>
  <name>Aaron S. Meurer</name>
  <email>asmeu...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-22T06:04:08Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_frm/thread/afdb98252051f0ce/8ada2b62c8631ce5?show_docid=8ada2b62c8631ce5</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: [sympy] Re: removing the old assumption system - help request</title>
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  So now that 0.6.6 is released, I think we should make this top priority. The thing Chris and I are discussing on IRC is what is the best way to collaborate on this with git so that we don&#39;t duplicate each other&#39;s work. Also, can anyone give a clear list of what needs to be done? Does anyone other than Fabian really know this?
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  <author>
  <name>Aaron S. Meurer</name>
  <email>asmeu...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-21T20:04:00Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_frm/thread/e18f4004bd8bcf7c/ba8d002f418892e8?show_docid=ba8d002f418892e8</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_frm/thread/e18f4004bd8bcf7c/ba8d002f418892e8?show_docid=ba8d002f418892e8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [sympy] [Ann] SymPy 0.6.6 released</title>
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  Also, the docs at &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://docs.sympy.org/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; need to be updated. &lt;br&gt; Aaron Meurer
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  <author>
  <name>Aaron S. Meurer</name>
  <email>asmeu...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-21T18:06:09Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_frm/thread/e18f4004bd8bcf7c/8f555f814c6b1315?show_docid=8f555f814c6b1315</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_frm/thread/e18f4004bd8bcf7c/8f555f814c6b1315?show_docid=8f555f814c6b1315"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [sympy] [Ann] SymPy 0.6.6 released</title>
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  Great! What needs to be done for this to be pushed up to fink and the other package managers? According to fink, the fink package maintainer for sympy is Lev Givon &amp;lt;l...@columbia.edu&amp;gt;. &lt;br&gt; Aaron Meurer
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  <author>
  <name>Aaron S. Meurer</name>
  <email>asmeu...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-12-21T17:57:32Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_frm/thread/e18f4004bd8bcf7c/85fb631d1f838fea?show_docid=85fb631d1f838fea</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/sympy/browse_frm/thread/e18f4004bd8bcf7c/85fb631d1f838fea?show_docid=85fb631d1f838fea"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [sympy] Re: [Ann] SymPy 0.6.6 released</title>
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  Not only are they installed, but they don&#39;t even work: &lt;br&gt; Aaron-Meurer:~ aaronmeurer$doctest &lt;br&gt; Traceback (most recent call last): &lt;br&gt; File &amp;quot;/Library/Frameworks/Python.fr amework/Versions/2.6/bin/docte st&amp;quot;, line 17, in &amp;lt;module&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; from get_sympy import path_hack &lt;br&gt; ImportError: No module named get_sympy &lt;br&gt; Aaron-Meurer:~ aaronmeurer$cd /Library/Frameworks/Python.fra mework/Versions/2.6/bin/
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