Recently I was hired by a company based in Canada to work on symfony
based project.
Project started when symfony 1.0 was stable version.
Im responsible for:
- code refactoring:
- cleaning up PHP notices
- DRY'ing some obvious parts of the code
- moving some code from/to view and model layer
- concrete funciontal changes pointed by Customer
- fixing bugs
- securing application
- updating to 1.4 version
I consider myself and I believe :) I'm intermediate symfony developer
- I'm using symfony from 2-3 years and developed 10 - 20 various size
projects.
I know the value of my work but this is my first job outside of my
country so I have no idea what is per hour rating (in USD) for such
scenario.
Maybe some of You are hiring symfony developers from middle Europe and
could share Your knowledge about per hour ratings?
> Recently I was hired by a company based in Canada to work on symfony
> based project.
> Project started when symfony 1.0 was stable version.
> Im responsible for:
> - code refactoring:
> - cleaning up PHP notices
> - DRY'ing some obvious parts of the code
> - moving some code from/to view and model layer
> - concrete funciontal changes pointed by Customer
> - fixing bugs
> - securing application
> - updating to 1.4 version
> I consider myself and I believe :) I'm intermediate symfony developer
> - I'm using symfony from 2-3 years and developed 10 - 20 various size
> projects.
> I know the value of my work but this is my first job outside of my
> country so I have no idea what is per hour rating (in USD) for such
> scenario.
> Maybe some of You are hiring symfony developers from middle Europe and
> could share Your knowledge about per hour ratings?
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, [ISO-8859-2] ukasz Wojciechowski wrote:
> I know the value of my work but this is my first job outside of my
> country so I have no idea what is per hour rating (in USD) for such
> scenario.
Two additional points:
1) The only reason to outsource to developer's in another country would be to save money.
2) Canadian salaries are lower than the US and taxes are higher.
> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, [ISO-8859-2] £ukasz Wojciechowski wrote:
>> I know the value of my work but this is my first job outside of my
>> country so I have no idea what is per hour rating (in USD) for such
>> scenario.
> Two additional points:
> 1) The only reason to outsource to developer's in another country
> would be
> to save money.
> 2) Canadian salaries are lower than the US and taxes are higher.
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> This is true, but depends on context and client.
> For instance here in France, for a contract employee it may be around
> 20€ per hour, once charges and taxes deducted.
> A freelancer should charge at least twice to cover taxes, so almost
> 50USD.
> Le 14 déc. 2009 à 15:21, Eno <symb...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, [ISO-8859-2] £ukasz Wojciechowski wrote:
>>> I know the value of my work but this is my first job outside of my
>>> country so I have no idea what is per hour rating (in USD) for such
>>> scenario.
>> Two additional points:
>> 1) The only reason to outsource to developer's in another country
>> would be
>> to save money.
>> 2) Canadian salaries are lower than the US and taxes are higher.
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When I was in US gas was $1.5 per Gallon, now it is $4 per Gallon. Other
things must be costly. So a 100,000 USD per annum should be possible which
comes around $50 per hour (2000 hours per annum).
> 2009/12/14 Benoit Montuelle <benoit.montue...@gmail.com>:
> > This is true, but depends on context and client.
> > For instance here in France, for a contract employee it may be around
> > 20€ per hour, once charges and taxes deducted.
> > A freelancer should charge at least twice to cover taxes, so almost
> > 50USD.
> > Le 14 déc. 2009 à 15:21, Eno <symb...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, [ISO-8859-2] £ukasz Wojciechowski wrote:
> >>> I know the value of my work but this is my first job outside of my
> >>> country so I have no idea what is per hour rating (in USD) for such
> >>> scenario.
> >> Two additional points:
> >> 1) The only reason to outsource to developer's in another country
> >> would be
> >> to save money.
> >> 2) Canadian salaries are lower than the US and taxes are higher.
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On Dec 14, 2009, at 11:03 AM, DEEPAK BHATIA wrote:
> When I was in US gas was $1.5 per Gallon, now it is $4 per Gallon. Other things must be costly. So a 100,000 USD per annum should be possible which comes around $50 per hour (2000 hours per annum).
No, it's not. I paid $2.79 last week for premium. Regular is around $2.54. Maybe it's $4.00 in California, but not on the east coast. This country would grind to a halt if gas were $4 or more nationally.
I've seen rates from $10 to over $100 per hour (USD) for contract developers. It depends on your experience, your location, and how hungry you are. Having a good portfolio and a good resume or CV and stellar references helps you immensely. A good rule of thumb in the US is to take whatever your salary rate would be (per hour) and multiply by around 2 (1.5 - 2) to cover expenses and taxes. Even with the higher hourly rate, your employer is getting a good deal over a salaried employee once they consider the actual costs of having an employee.
> 2009/12/14 Benoit Montuelle <benoit.montue...@gmail.com>:
> > This is true, but depends on context and client.
> > For instance here in France, for a contract employee it may be around
> > 20€ per hour, once charges and taxes deducted.
> > A freelancer should charge at least twice to cover taxes, so almost
> > 50USD.
> > Le 14 déc. 2009 à 15:21, Eno <symb...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009, [ISO-8859-2] £ukasz Wojciechowski wrote:
> >>> I know the value of my work but this is my first job outside of my
> >>> country so I have no idea what is per hour rating (in USD) for such
> >>> scenario.
> >> Two additional points:
> >> 1) The only reason to outsource to developer's in another country
> >> would be
> >> to save money.
> >> 2) Canadian salaries are lower than the US and taxes are higher.
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My suggestion is to ask them to make an offer first to get an idea of
the price range they are willing to offer.
Realistically speaking, I worked with both US and Canada companies via
contract from Eastern Europe and the rates
go from 10-15 Euro for remote work. People don't pay much over these
rates because there are plenty
of replacement opportunities from other parts of the globe (unless you
provide some unique services).
> Recently I was hired by a company based in Canada to work on symfony
> based project.
> Project started when symfony 1.0 was stable version.
> Im responsible for:
> - code refactoring:
> - cleaning up PHP notices
> - DRY'ing some obvious parts of the code
> - moving some code from/to view and model layer
> - concrete funciontal changes pointed by Customer
> - fixing bugs
> - securing application
> - updating to 1.4 version
> I consider myself and I believe :) I'm intermediate symfony developer
> - I'm using symfony from 2-3 years and developed 10 - 20 various size
> projects.
> I know the value of my work but this is my first job outside of my
> country so I have no idea what is per hour rating (in USD) for such
> scenario.
> Maybe some of You are hiring symfony developers from middle Europe and
> could share Your knowledge about per hour ratings?
I think a normal web developer should get at least 30-35 USD per hour. Below
this, it is difficult to survive staying in US.
2009/12/15 pghoratiu <pghora...@gmail.com>
> My suggestion is to ask them to make an offer first to get an idea of
> the price range they are willing to offer.
> Realistically speaking, I worked with both US and Canada companies via
> contract from Eastern Europe and the rates
> go from 10-15 Euro for remote work. People don't pay much over these
> rates because there are plenty
> of replacement opportunities from other parts of the globe (unless you
> provide some unique services).
> Good luck!
> gabriel
> On Dec 14, 3:35 am, Łukasz Wojciechowski
> <lukasz.wojciechow...@ngsoft.pl> wrote:
> > Hello
> > I'm Polish and I live in Poland.
> > Recently I was hired by a company based in Canada to work on symfony
> > based project.
> > Project started when symfony 1.0 was stable version.
> > Im responsible for:
> > - code refactoring:
> > - cleaning up PHP notices
> > - DRY'ing some obvious parts of the code
> > - moving some code from/to view and model layer
> > - concrete funciontal changes pointed by Customer
> > - fixing bugs
> > - securing application
> > - updating to 1.4 version
> > I consider myself and I believe :) I'm intermediate symfony developer
> > - I'm using symfony from 2-3 years and developed 10 - 20 various size
> > projects.
> > I know the value of my work but this is my first job outside of my
> > country so I have no idea what is per hour rating (in USD) for such
> > scenario.
> > Maybe some of You are hiring symfony developers from middle Europe and
> > could share Your knowledge about per hour ratings?
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What are you saying Alex? 20$/h in Romania? wtf? for whom do you work?
i work for medium sized company for a year in symfony, php, mysql and
JS and i get payed 2$/h. this mean 330$/month? and we work for NCES
(all schoools from USA). we do not make rag-tag webdesigned sites or
other small projects. these are medium pays in Romania, so more than
5$/h will found nowhere in our country. take your seat!
On Dec 14, 8:53 am, Alexandru-Emil Lupu <gang.al...@gmail.com> wrote:
