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Alex McClung  
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 More options Nov 16 2012, 8:09 am
From: Alex McClung <clung...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 05:09:17 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 16 2012 8:09 am
Subject: Drive Components for my Robot.

Hi Guys,

I'm rebuilding my robot onto a new chassis made of Openbeam.

One of the main differences will be the drive system:
Instead of a direct drive system, I would like to use a 3:1 Timing Belt
system and new 8 Inch wheels.

I'm using Jaycar YG-2738 Motors (6mm Shaft).
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=YG2738

The wheel brackets will be made of Openbeam and Skate Bearings (8mm Bore
Diameter), mounted Vertically Below the Motors:
http://www.openbeamusa.com/Speciality-Components/NEMA-17-Mount-Plate-...
http://www.openbeamusa.com/Speciality-Components/608-Bearing-to-NEMA-...

I don't have much experience with this sort of stuff and I'm not sure what
Pulleys and Belts i need.
If someone could help out, it would be greatly appreciated. :)

Cheers,
Alex


 
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Dave Everett  
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 More options Nov 17 2012, 2:27 am
From: Dave Everett <daveeveret...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 23:27:40 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 17 2012 2:27 am
Subject: Re: Drive Components for my Robot.

Alex, given the size of wheel I would recommend XL timing pulleys. XL is
5.08mm pitch. There is a metric version T5, but choices can be more limited
for one-off constructions.

Stock Drive Products sell timing pulleys and belts in most configurations,
they also have a centre didtance calculator for determining the distance
between the pulleys (note it is not entirely accurate and I tend to check
the true distance once I receive the parts, but you will be within a few
millimetres). Their website is:
http://www.sdp-si.com

They sell plastic pulleys which are very cheap and nice to work with and
you can buy a pulley with hub and set screw with the correct bore to fit
the Jaycar motors off the shelf.

If you're going to be down at the workshop any time soon, I have my new
base on the back table, it uses an XL belt system to bring the speed down
to around 80cm/sec and improve the torque.

I am using a pnuematic wheel from Fallshaw casters as the hub is bolted
together and I was able to use those bolts and some couplers to attach the
large timing pulley and keep everything square. I also printed a template
on the 3D printer for drilling the holes in the pulley so they match up
exactly with the bolt holes in the wheel.

Dave


 
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Alex McClung  
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 More options Nov 17 2012, 4:39 am
From: Alex McClung <clung...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 01:39:58 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 17 2012 4:39 am
Subject: Re: Drive Components for my Robot.

Thanks Dave,
Ive looked on their website, but i'm not sure exactly what i need. They
have hundreds of configurations and i want to make sure it will work before
i purchase.

They don't have any 8mm Bore, XL Pulleys with anywhere close to the 60
grooves.

So i had a look at T5:
https://sdp-si.com/eStore/PartDetail.asp?Opener=Group&PartID=60018&Gr... Pulley.
https://sdp-si.com/eStore/PartDetail.asp?Opener=Group&PartID=59730&Gr... Pulley.

Will they work together?

Alex


 
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Kean Maizels  
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 More options Nov 18 2012, 6:29 am
From: "Kean Maizels" <K...@kean.com.au>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:29:39 +1100
Local: Sun, Nov 18 2012 6:29 am
Subject: RE: Drive Components for my Robot.

Alex,

Take a look at http://ausxmods.com.au/ for T5 timing belt and toothed
pulleys.

No affiliation, just a happy customer.

Kean

From: sydney-hackspace@googlegroups.com
[mailto:sydney-hackspace@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex McClung
Sent: Saturday, 17 November 2012 8:40 PM
To: sydney-hackspace@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Drive Components for my Robot.

Thanks Dave,

Ive looked on their website, but i'm not sure exactly what i need. They
have hundreds of configurations and i want to make sure it will work
before i purchase.

They don't have any 8mm Bore, XL Pulleys with anywhere close to the 60
grooves.

So i had a look at T5:

https://sdp-si.com/eStore/PartDetail.asp?Opener=Group&PartID=60018&Group
ID=346 Motor Pulley.

https://sdp-si.com/eStore/PartDetail.asp?Opener=Group&PartID=59730&Group
ID=346 Wheel Pulley.

Will they work together?

Alex

On Saturday, 17 November 2012 18:27:40 UTC+11, Dave Everett wrote:
On Saturday, November 17, 2012 12:09:17 AM UTC+11, Alex McClung wrote:

Hi Guys,

I'm rebuilding my robot onto a new chassis made of Openbeam.

One of the main differences will be the drive system:

Instead of a direct drive system, I would like to use a 3:1 Timing Belt
system and new 8 Inch wheels.

I'm using Jaycar YG-2738 Motors (6mm Shaft).
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=YG2738

The wheel brackets will be made of Openbeam and Skate Bearings (8mm Bore
Diameter), mounted Vertically Below the Motors:

http://www.openbeamusa.com/Speciality-Components/NEMA-17-Mount-Plate-2-p
ack.html

http://www.openbeamusa.com/Speciality-Components/608-Bearing-to-NEMA-17-
Mount-Plate-Adapter-2-pack.html

I don't have much experience with this sort of stuff and I'm not sure
what Pulleys and Belts i need.

If someone could help out, it would be greatly appreciated. :)

Cheers,

Alex

Alex, given the size of wheel I would recommend XL timing pulleys. XL is
5.08mm pitch. There is a metric version T5, but choices can be more
limited for one-off constructions.

Stock Drive Products sell timing pulleys and belts in most
configurations, they also have a centre didtance calculator for
determining the distance between the pulleys (note it is not entirely
accurate and I tend to check the true distance once I receive the parts,
but you will be within a few millimetres). Their website is:

http://www.sdp-si.com

They sell plastic pulleys which are very cheap and nice to work with and
you can buy a pulley with hub and set screw with the correct bore to fit
the Jaycar motors off the shelf.

If you're going to be down at the workshop any time soon, I have my new
base on the back table, it uses an XL belt system to bring the speed
down to around 80cm/sec and improve the torque.

I am using a pnuematic wheel from Fallshaw casters as the hub is bolted
together and I was able to use those bolts and some couplers to attach
the large timing pulley and keep everything square. I also printed a
template on the 3D printer for drilling the holes in the pulley so they
match up exactly with the bolt holes in the wheel.

Dave

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dyrodium  
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 More options Nov 19 2012, 6:38 am
From: dyrodium <an...@mechatanuki.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:38:30 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 6:38 am
Subject: Re: Drive Components for my Robot.

Was about to recommend ausxmods too. Great prices and in NSW to boot.

For driving your jaycar motors I would recommend some bulletproof botbitz
85as if you don't already have speed controllers!


 
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Alex McClung  
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 More options Nov 20 2012, 12:29 am
From: Alex McClung <clung...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 21:29:32 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 12:29 am
Subject: Re: Drive Components for my Robot.

Thanks Guys, I've already got Motor Drivers and all electronics.

I'd already ordered the pulleys and belts before i knew about ausxmods. I
ended up getting:
https://sdp-si.com/eStore/PartDetail.asp?Opener=Group&PartID=60018&Gr... Motor
Pulley.
https://sdp-si.com/eStore/PartDetail.asp?Opener=Group&PartID=59730&Gr... Wheel
Pulley.
https://sdp-si.com/eStore/PartDetail.asp?Opener=Group&PartID=85139&Gr... Timing
Belt.

Alex.


 
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Discussion subject changed to "Want to take spy pen camera electronics and hook up to a mini monitor" by Ming Yu
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 More options Nov 20 2012, 12:48 am
From: Ming Yu <kmyj1...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:48:55 +0800
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 12:48 am
Subject: Want to take spy pen camera electronics and hook up to a mini monitor

Hey guys, I'm working on a simple project. I bought a spy pen camera, and using its electronics, I want to link it to a piece of glass (size of normal spectacles). Got inspired by google glasses, so wanted to replicate it. Does anyone have any idea how to link the 2 components together.
ThanksMing


 
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 More options Nov 20 2012, 1:37 am
From: David Lyon <david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:37:16 +1100
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 1:37 am
Subject: Re: Want to take spy pen camera electronics and hook up to a mini monitor

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Ming Yu <kmyj1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>  Hey guys,
> I'm working on a simple project. I bought a spy pen camera, and using its
> electronics, I want to link it to a piece of glass (size of normal
> spectacles). Got inspired by google glasses, so wanted to replicate it.
> Does anyone have any idea how to link the 2 components together.

Google have a lot of money to put into their projects. Stuff that
'looks-easy' ain't always
that easy to project manage and make.

Why not post a picture of the parts that you have so far so we can comment
from
there.

Need more information to be able to tell you what to connect where to where.


 
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Dave Everett  
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 More options Nov 20 2012, 5:02 am
From: Dave Everett <daveeveret...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:02:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 5:02 am
Subject: Re: Drive Components for my Robot.

T5 is fine, it's almost the same as XL, so T5 pulleys and T5 belts would do
the job fine.

Kean, good resource there, those prices are very good.

I checked up my last order, on those pnuematic wheels I used a 70 tooth
pulley and a 20 tooth on the motor to get the speed and torque where I
wanted them. If you got the 60 tooth for the wheel and the 15 tooth for the
motor, you would get a similar ratio. The 15 tooth has a 6mm bore so will
fit exactly on the Jaycar motor. The other pulley, you bore out the centre
of.

You'll want to check that the 70 tooth pulley has enough space to place the
screws to interface with the screws in the wheel (that is the bolt circle
can be accommodated in the pulley). That may not be clear so I'll post a
drawing. As you can see, the screws that hold the pulley to the wheel must
fit within the pulley itself. I used standard M6 couplwers to attach it to
the wheel.

Either way I would say ausxmods is the go, I'll be getting stuff from them
in the future as I would prefer to buy locally.

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Alex McClung  
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 More options Nov 20 2012, 5:28 am
From: Alex McClung <clung...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 02:28:08 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 20 2012 5:28 am
Subject: Re: Drive Components for my Robot.

Thanks Dave,

Ive already purchaced a 20:60 tooth system of sdp-si.com, it looks like i
have to make up a custom hub.

Two questions:
1. I ordered the 60 tooth Pulleys without flanges, will this be a big
problem?
2. Will 120mm be long enough between the origins of the pulleys?

Alex


 
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Discussion subject changed to "Want to take spy pen camera electronics and hook up to a mini monitor" by Ming Yu
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 More options Nov 21 2012, 6:44 am
From: Ming Yu <kmyj1...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 19:44:51 +0800
Local: Wed, Nov 21 2012 6:44 am
Subject: RE: Want to take spy pen camera electronics and hook up to a mini monitor

I dont have the parts yet because I still not too sure what is needed. But just want to find out if it is even possible to use a glass screen and link it to a camera. Is there such a screen and if so whats it called.
thanks

Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:37:16 +1100
Subject: Re: Want to take spy pen camera electronics and hook up to a mini monitor
From: david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com
To: sydney-hackspace@googlegroups.com

On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Ming Yu <kmyj1...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hey guys, I'm working on a simple project. I bought a spy pen camera, and using its electronics, I want to link it to a piece of glass (size of normal spectacles). Got inspired by google glasses, so wanted to replicate it.
Does anyone have any idea how to link the 2 components together.

Google have a lot of money to put into their projects. Stuff that 'looks-easy' ain't always

that easy to project manage and make.

Why not post a picture of the parts that you have so far so we can comment from
there.

Need more information to be able to tell you what to connect where to where.

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Lachlan Horne  
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 23:39:05 +1100
Local: Wed, Nov 21 2012 7:39 am
Subject: Re: Want to take spy pen camera electronics and hook up to a mini monitor

What you want is a head-mounted display (HMD). If you also want to see
through the display (have the image overlaid on the background) you need a
transmissive (? transparent?) HMD. These are not cheap.

I imagine what you want to do is have the camera transmit an image to your
glasses. Look at RC aircraft FPV systems (eg. FatShark) to see what is
involved with this.

On 21 November 2012 22:44, Ming Yu <kmyj1...@hotmail.com> wrote:


 
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David Lyon  
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From: David Lyon <david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:27:01 +1100
Local: Wed, Nov 21 2012 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: Want to take spy pen camera electronics and hook up to a mini monitor

On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Ming Yu <kmyj1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>  I dont have the parts yet because I still not too sure what is needed.
> But just want to find out if it is even possible to use a glass screen and
> link it to a camera.
> Is there such a screen and if so whats it called.

Here's a link to some of those glasses:

 -
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/72inch-vision-video-glasses-PMP-glasse...

from the list here:

 -
http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=head+mounted+display+g...

They include what looks to be a AV camera input (which is definitely what
you want).

So yes it looks possible. There's a few different ways that video is
transmitted (NTSC/PAL etc)
but converting is easy with the right adaptor.

Looks possible.


 
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From: David Lyon <david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 08:59:43 +1100
Local: Wed, Nov 21 2012 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: Want to take spy pen camera electronics and hook up to a mini monitor

On further investigation:

 -
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wholesale-4GB-8GB-USB-Spy-Pen-Camera-M...

This spy pen has a built in USB interface and the glasses also have a
mini-USB interface.

It may be as simple as record video on the pen, and plug the pen into the
glasses to
watch the earlier recorded video.

There's a chance that it may work out of the box.


 
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Dave Everett  
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 More options Nov 22 2012, 4:02 am
From: Dave Everett <daveeveret...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 01:02:49 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 22 2012 4:02 am
Subject: Re: Drive Components for my Robot.

On Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:28:09 PM UTC+11, Alex McClung wrote:

> Thanks Dave,

> Ive already purchaced a 20:60 tooth system of sdp-si.com, it looks like i
> have to make up a custom hub.

> Two questions:
> 1. I ordered the 60 tooth Pulleys without flanges, will this be a big
> problem?

No, as the 20 tooth has flanges it will keep the belt square. My original
setup had no flanges on the large pulley.

> 2. Will 120mm be long enough between the origins of the pulleys?

That's plenty, I think I only have 100mm between centres. However don't
place anything until you get the gear, that will allow you to have the best
tension and least play in the system.

What belt did you order?

Dave


 
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Alex McClung  
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 More options Nov 22 2012, 5:52 am
From: Alex McClung <clung...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 02:52:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 22 2012 5:52 am
Subject: Re: Drive Components for my Robot.

I'm glad it will all work well, I wasn't planning on setting it up until i
recieved all the parts.

This is the belt i purchaced:
https://sdp-si.com/eStore/PartDetail.asp?Opener=Group&PartID=85139&Gr...
.

Alex.


 
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