I don't speak Geek.

Nologic420

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Dec 24, 2009, 8:31:49 AM12/24/09

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This is all geek to me man. I try to keep my site nice and tidy. But I
have been using the Adobe detection Kit to set up the skin I use for
my progressive videos and then I play them in an iframe. The question
is how do I turn this code into the correct code for SWFObject so it
plays with the skin.

Thanks .. I only need this code writen once and can use it with all of
my movies since they all have the same player controls. Millions of
thank yous !!!!

Sam Sherlock

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Dec 24, 2009, 1:07:37 PM12/24/09

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Use the swfobject online generator

use the value of the movie param as the flash file

set the respective params to the values of general params

finally add the flashvar name / value pairs to the flashvars

http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/swfobject/generator/index.html

- S

2009/12/24 Nologic420 <nolog...@yahoo.com>

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Nologic420

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Dec 26, 2009, 2:20:29 PM12/26/09

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Haha.. No. I don't think you are all geeks. I just think the information available for the swfobject is too convoluted. I have searched the net for good answers about the script and using it with skins, fla and a progressive down loader packaged with adobe CS3 Flash and Dreamweaver - none of the answers were clear. Sorry if you were offended. Not intended.

From: X.Smalbil <xander...@gmail.com>
To: swfo...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, December 25, 2009 10:35:51 PM
Subject: Re: I don't speak Geek.

So what do you think.. that we're geeks ?
You are lucky Im happy today or else I would have fully flamed you so you would shit all over you keyboard.
You should stop using google for porn and use your brain for other things than analyzing titties. It's like your email
adress says.. no logic.

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Nologic420 <nolog...@yahoo.com> wrote:

This is all geek to me man. I try to keep my site nice and tidy. But I
have been using the Adobe detection Kit to set up the skin I use for
my progressive videos and then I play them in an iframe. The question
is how do I turn this code into the correct code for SWFObject so it
plays with the skin.

<script type="text/javascript">

AC_FL_RunContent( 'codebase','http://download.macromedia.com/pub/%0Ashockwave/cabs/flash/%0Aswflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0','width','562','height','411','id','FLVPlayer','src','FLVPlayer_Progressive','flashvars','&MM_ComponentVersion=1&skinName=Halo_Skin_3&streamName=shotover&autoPlay=false&autoRewind=false','quality','high','scale','noscale','name','FLVPlayer','salign','lt','pluginspage','http://

www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash','movie','FLVPlayer_Progressive'
); //end AC code
</script>
<noscript>
<object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"

codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/%0Aswflash.cab#version=8,0,0,0" width="562" height="411" id="FLVPlayer">

<param name="movie" value="FLVPlayer_Progressive.swf" />
<param name="salign" value="lt" />
<param name="quality" value="high" />
<param name="scale" value="noscale" />
<param name="FlashVars"
value="&MM_ComponentVersion=1&skinName=Halo_Skin_3&streamName=shotover&autoPlay=false&autoRewind=false" /
>
<embed src="FLVPlayer_Progressive.swf"
flashvars="&MM_ComponentVersion=1&skinName=Halo_Skin_3&streamName=shotover&autoPlay=false&autoRewind=false"
quality="high" scale="noscale" width="562" height="411"
name="FLVPlayer" salign="LT" type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
pluginspage="http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?
P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" />
</object>
</noscript>

Thanks .. I only need this code writen once and can use it with all of
my movies since they all have the same player controls. Millions of
thank yous !!!!

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Philip Hutchison

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Dec 26, 2009, 3:04:26 PM12/26/09

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SWFObject is unrelated to the use of skins. All SWFObject does is embed a SWF into an HTML page. This is why you will probably not find any SWFObject-related discussions of skins.

Regardless of what method you use to embed a SWF into your HTML, you will encounter the same problems with skins, such as 'what file path should be used when loading the other elements into the skin SWF?' and 'what flashvars are required for this project?'.

RE: paths, the easiest solution is to use absolute paths for all elements. ("http://domain.com/movie.swf" instead of "../movie.swf")

RE: Flashvars, it depends on your project. The Adobe embed code you provided below lists the following flashvars:

MM_ComponentVersion=1
skinName=Halo_Skin_3
streamName=shotover
autoPlay=false
autoRewind=false

You can learn more about flashvars on Adobe's site, and our SWFObject documentation site describes how to specify flashvars using SWFObject.

As for the particulars of how a skin works with its other files, there's no way we can possibly know, because there are a ton of custom projects out there that all use their own approaches/mechanisms. We focus purely on embedding a SWF into an HTML page and leave other details (such as skinning and other internal mechanisms) to the developers that created the SWFs.

In your case, it appears you're trying to specify skin details for Adobe Flash's FLV Player component. That means you need to go to Adobe's site to get details on how their FLV Player component works and what flashvars it accepts.

As for embedding, the easiest thing for you would be to go to the SWFObject code generator and type in the details for your files. The generator will handle the rest. If you're playing the FLVs in an iframe, the SWFObject code needs to be in that iframe and not the parent HTML file.

- philip

Nologic420

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:01:42 PM12/27/09

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swfobject is unrelated to skins. I hear that a lot from this group. But the fact is, this component was created to make the adobe html code compliant and a big part of that issue is that people use the skins in both flash and dreamweaver to quickly add play controls to their flv files. Without the skins you have to include it in your swf and it is bulky, plus it has to reload each time you flip to another movie. So it seems to me that if you are going to support a different approach you should also cover the general features of the products that use the code that you are trying to make more compliant. A huge feature of the adobe flash detection kit is that it immediately adds functionality for the skins - no questions asked. And if you are trying to replace something that is known to work I would think you would create something that has the same functionality only better.

The really stupid thing is that the embed tag has not become a part of the html standard. It worked for years, it was flawless.

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Sent: Sat, December 26, 2009 8:04:26 PM

Getify Solutions, Inc.

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:45:02 PM12/27/09

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"A huge feature of the adobe flash detection kit is that it immediately adds functionality for skins" --

Sorry, but this statement is just hogwash. The AFDK doesn't do anything extra for skins that is not possible or immediately easy with SWFObject. Now, it's clear you prefer AFDK over SWFObject's approach, and that's fine. But please stop clogging up our mailing list with opinionated statements that are completely baseless.

SWFObject's goal is to make embedding of flash assets as easy as possible. What you do with the flash, including how you skin it, is up to you. We are not, and will not be, a flash support forum.

--Kyle

X.Smalbil

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:01:12 AM12/28/09

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Hi,

My remark would be to read more on the website en use the code generator to embed the flash files. Further more there is no support for the things you are asking. And please let me argue the FACT that
you should READ more.

- "The really stupid thing is that the embed tag has not become a part of the html standard. It worked for years, it was flawless."

The embed TAG works in HTML 4.01 and you can use it when you are using XHTML. It is also possible to validate.
If you would READ the HTML 5 reference on W3C then you could find that the embed tag has not gone away. http://www.w3schools.com/html5/tag_embed.asp

- "But the fact is, this component was created to make the adobe html code compliant and a big part of that issue is that people use the skins in both flash and dreamweaver to quickly add play controls to their flv files."
The adobe detecton kit is just to detect what flash version you have got and display content.

ClientSideDetection.html
Contains the JavaScript and VBScript logic for client-side Flash Player detection
AC_OETags.js
JavaScript source file; used by ClientSideDetection.html to detect and embed the Flash Player
example.swf
Flash movie to test your implementation of the Express Install process

ActionScript-based Detection sample files

These files are used to detect the end user's Flash Player version, and to display Flash content if the correct version was detected or to prompt the user to install the correct version of the Flash Player.

- "Without the skins you have to include it in your swf and it is bulky, plus it has to reload each time you flip to another movie."

This is totally not true. When you embed, you will have to save the controls sfw as a seperate file which you upload. The reloading is not a problem.. it goes more quickly
than loading another movie... btw evertime you flip top another movie.. it will reload another movie. :p

- "it seems to me that if you are going to support a different approach you should also cover the general features of the products that use the code that you are trying to make more compliant"

Nope, and there isn't minimal support for other software as well.

-"And if you are trying to replace something that is known to work I would think you would create something that has the same functionality only better."

Ignorance is bliss.

Well Best Wishes for 2010,

Xander

Philip Hutchison

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Dec 28, 2009, 1:53:53 PM12/28/09

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So it seems to me that if you are going to support a different approach you should also cover the general features of the products that use the code that you are trying to make more compliant.

We are not part of Adobe, and are volunteers doing this completely free as a community service. You can't seriously expect us to find every product that outputs SWF files and add support for their proprietary skinning and flashvar usage. That's daft. It's up to the creators/vendors of those products to adapt their publishing system to fit their needs. They're free to use SWFObject to that end, if they wish. Adobe has begun adapting SWFObject as its default publishing technique in its newer products, but Adobe does not own SWFObject and we are not affiliated with Adobe in any way.

A huge feature of the adobe flash detection kit is that it immediately adds functionality for the skins - no questions asked.

This statement tells me that you need to learn more about this project before making pronouncements about our faults. It's clear you don't understand what's going on here.

And if you are trying to replace something that is known to work I would think you would create something that has the same functionality only better.

As Kyle said, what SWFObject does is make embedding SWFs as easy as possible using code that validates against the W3C specs. Something that Adobe's old kit didn't do. Something that <embed> doesn't do. We also try to ensure that developers are given as much flexibility as possible when embedding their SWFs, hence the dynamic and static publishing approaches, and the SWFObject API. SWFObject improves upon the old Flash Detection Kit in many ways, and is much more powerful. Otherwise, why would Adobe be switching to SWFObject?

You should really learn more about a product before you start telling its developers how bad it is. That's bad form and completely uncalled for.

Also, this SWFObject Google Group is for people seeking help. Multiple people have offered advice to you and you seem to completely disregard them in favor of making ignorant complaints. If you're not really looking for help and don't have anything constructive to add to our discussions, please stop posting.

Thank you
- philip

X.Smalbil

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Dec 28, 2009, 3:53:58 PM12/28/09

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You tell him, Philip :) I wish you all the best for 2010.

- and for the guy who keeps on showing doesnt understand anything about SWFObject and it's features that free creativity for a lot of developers... I know something that could be a something to try and do oncoming year:
.. Read a Fine Manual or two of and to unsubscribe from this group, send email to swfobject+...@googlegroups.com.

peace,

Xander

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