HTTPS, IE8 and images
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Matt Ellen
Jun 21, 2010, 3:25:59 PM6/21/10
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I've been working on a website for a while (although its looks still
leave a lot to be desired) that uses SVG Web.
I force flash rendering for uniformity across browsers.
The url is https://78.86.233.36/ although the certificate is self
signed, so I'll understand if you don't want to visit.
username: demo
password: demoPW1
The problem I'm having is that when I put an image (png, gif or jpg)
into the SVG then it won't render in IE8, but it does in Firefox
(3.6.3).
I am generating the images using php, but that shouldn't matter as the
site works in IE8 over regular HTTP.
I'm using r1115 of SVG Web.
Has anyone come across this before?
leave a lot to be desired) that uses SVG Web.
I force flash rendering for uniformity across browsers.
The url is https://78.86.233.36/ although the certificate is self
signed, so I'll understand if you don't want to visit.
username: demo
password: demoPW1
The problem I'm having is that when I put an image (png, gif or jpg)
into the SVG then it won't render in IE8, but it does in Firefox
(3.6.3).
I am generating the images using php, but that shouldn't matter as the
site works in IE8 over regular HTTP.
I'm using r1115 of SVG Web.
Has anyone come across this before?
Bradley Neuberg
Jun 21, 2010, 4:59:16 PM6/21/10
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Can you show us the source? Are you using data: urls for the images?
Looks cool BTW! You should use pointer-events: none so that text doesn't get selected when you drag things (though I can't remember whether that is supported by SVG Web currently). If you drag too fast on an object it also becomes unselected.
Looks cool BTW! You should use pointer-events: none so that text doesn't get selected when you drag things (though I can't remember whether that is supported by SVG Web currently). If you drag too fast on an object it also becomes unselected.
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Matt Ellen
Jun 25, 2010, 12:27:52 PM6/25/10
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I was always planning on putting this on github. Now's as good a time
as any.
http://github.com/Mellen/Ideaweb
It doesn't have code to set up the DB in there at the moment.
The file that generates the SVG is projectImage.php
It doesn't use data: urls, it's using xlink:href and pointing to a PHP
file. I'm using PHP to resize the images.
Thanks for the tip on the bugs.
On Jun 21, 9:59 pm, Bradley Neuberg <bradneub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can you show us the source? Are you using data: urls for the images?
>
> Looks cool BTW! You should use pointer-events: none so that text doesn't get
> selected when you drag things (though I can't remember whether that is
> supported by SVG Web currently). If you drag too fast on an object it also
> becomes unselected.
>
> > .
as any.
http://github.com/Mellen/Ideaweb
It doesn't have code to set up the DB in there at the moment.
The file that generates the SVG is projectImage.php
It doesn't use data: urls, it's using xlink:href and pointing to a PHP
file. I'm using PHP to resize the images.
Thanks for the tip on the bugs.
On Jun 21, 9:59 pm, Bradley Neuberg <bradneub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Can you show us the source? Are you using data: urls for the images?
>
> Looks cool BTW! You should use pointer-events: none so that text doesn't get
> selected when you drag things (though I can't remember whether that is
> supported by SVG Web currently). If you drag too fast on an object it also
> becomes unselected.
>
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Matt Ellen <mojo-the-waf...@excite.com>wrote:
>
> > I've been working on a website for a while (although its looks still
> > leave a lot to be desired) that uses SVG Web.
>
> > I force flash rendering for uniformity across browsers.
>
> > The url ishttps://78.86.233.36/although the certificate is self
>
> > I've been working on a website for a while (although its looks still
> > leave a lot to be desired) that uses SVG Web.
>
> > I force flash rendering for uniformity across browsers.
>
> > signed, so I'll understand if you don't want to visit.
> > username: demo
> > password: demoPW1
>
> > The problem I'm having is that when I put an image (png, gif or jpg)
> > into the SVG then it won't render in IE8, but it does in Firefox
> > (3.6.3).
>
> > I am generating the images using php, but that shouldn't matter as the
> > site works in IE8 over regular HTTP.
>
> > I'm using r1115 of SVG Web.
>
> > Has anyone come across this before?
>
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> > username: demo
> > password: demoPW1
>
> > The problem I'm having is that when I put an image (png, gif or jpg)
> > into the SVG then it won't render in IE8, but it does in Firefox
> > (3.6.3).
>
> > I am generating the images using php, but that shouldn't matter as the
> > site works in IE8 over regular HTTP.
>
> > I'm using r1115 of SVG Web.
>
> > Has anyone come across this before?
>
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Matt Ellen
Jun 25, 2010, 12:32:24 PM6/25/10
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My mistake, the code for the DB is in there!
On Jun 25, 5:27 pm, Matt Ellen <mojo-the-waf...@excite.com> wrote:
> I was always planning on putting this on github. Now's as good a time
> as any.
>
> http://github.com/Mellen/Ideaweb
>
> It doesn't have code to set up the DB in there at the moment.
>
> The file that generates the SVG is projectImage.php
>
> It doesn't use data: urls, it's using xlink:href and pointing to a PHP
> file. I'm using PHP to resize theimages.
>
> Thanks for the tip on the bugs.
>
> On Jun 21, 9:59 pm, Bradley Neuberg <bradneub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Can you show us the source? Are you using data: urls for theimages?
>
> > Looks cool BTW! You should use pointer-events: none so that text doesn't get
> > selected when you drag things (though I can't remember whether that is
> > supported by SVG Web currently). If you drag too fast on an object it also
> > becomes unselected.
>
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Matt Ellen <mojo-the-waf...@excite.com>wrote:
>
> > > I've been working on a website for a while (although its looks still
> > > leave a lot to be desired) that uses SVG Web.
>
> > > I force flash rendering for uniformity across browsers.
>
> > > The url ishttps://78.86.233.36/althoughthe certificate is self
> > > (3.6.3).
>
> > > I am generating theimagesusing php, but that shouldn't matter as the
> > > site works inIE8over regular HTTP.
On Jun 25, 5:27 pm, Matt Ellen <mojo-the-waf...@excite.com> wrote:
> I was always planning on putting this on github. Now's as good a time
> as any.
>
> http://github.com/Mellen/Ideaweb
>
> It doesn't have code to set up the DB in there at the moment.
>
> The file that generates the SVG is projectImage.php
>
> It doesn't use data: urls, it's using xlink:href and pointing to a PHP
> file. I'm using PHP to resize theimages.
>
> Thanks for the tip on the bugs.
>
> On Jun 21, 9:59 pm, Bradley Neuberg <bradneub...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Can you show us the source? Are you using data: urls for theimages?
>
> > Looks cool BTW! You should use pointer-events: none so that text doesn't get
> > selected when you drag things (though I can't remember whether that is
> > supported by SVG Web currently). If you drag too fast on an object it also
> > becomes unselected.
>
> > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Matt Ellen <mojo-the-waf...@excite.com>wrote:
>
> > > I've been working on a website for a while (although its looks still
> > > leave a lot to be desired) that uses SVG Web.
>
> > > I force flash rendering for uniformity across browsers.
>
> > > signed, so I'll understand if you don't want to visit.
> > > username: demo
> > > password: demoPW1
>
> > > The problem I'm having is that when I put an image (png, gif or jpg)
> > > into the SVG then it won't render inIE8, but it does in Firefox
> > > username: demo
> > > password: demoPW1
>
> > > The problem I'm having is that when I put an image (png, gif or jpg)
> > > (3.6.3).
>
> > > I am generating theimagesusing php, but that shouldn't matter as the
> > > site works inIE8over regular HTTP.
Bradley Neuberg
Jun 25, 2010, 12:55:22 PM6/25/10
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Nice; do you have a demo running anywhere we can test?
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Mojo
Jun 27, 2010, 2:41:41 PM6/27/10
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R. Masters
Jul 1, 2010, 2:29:55 PM7/1/10
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Mojo,
I've looked at the links you have provided. For the second or third time. The problem is that it is too difficult for us to figure out how to replicate your problem and fix it. You have not explained how one would encounter the problem with your application.
It is most efficient for us to debug a simple example in our own web server with code we build ourselves that we can instrument and debug. If you file an Issue (http://code.google.com/p/svgweb/issues/list) and attach brief instructions and the minimal amount of files and procedures to reproduce the problem, then you'll get your problem resolved much more quickly.
With respect to your particular problem, the only problem I have seen with image loading was when the image is too large or of a format that flash does not support. But that is only speculation at this point. You said it did not work on IE8 but you did not say if you tested it in other browsers in flash mode. You said it worked on firefox. Was that using native SVG support or flash? Does it work on IE6 or IE7, but not IE8 or was IE8 the only browser you tested in flash mode?
Regards,
Rick
P.S. For those who really want to make my life easier, please name your attached files like: i512.html and i512.svg but replace 512 with the Issue number and use src/svg.js as the path to SVG Web inside your examples.
P.S. For those who really want to make my life easier, please name your attached files like: i512.html and i512.svg but replace 512 with the Issue number and use src/svg.js as the path to SVG Web inside your examples.
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Mojo <mojo-th...@excite.com> wrote:
Sorry for sounding ignorant, but, what would you like a demo site to do?
The site I mentioned in the OP is a test site, if that's all you need.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Bradley Neuberg" [bradn...@gmail.com]
Date: 25/06/2010 17:55
To: svg...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: HTTPS, IE8 and images
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Bradley Neuberg
Jul 1, 2010, 9:11:32 PM7/1/10
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+1 on what Rick says; if you name your testing resources after the issue, such as issue552.html, it makes it much easier when we have several bug test files downloaded locally.
Matt Ellen
Jul 2, 2010, 10:10:22 AM7/2/10
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Sorry for not being clear enough.
I will submit an issue as soon as I figure out the minimum amount of
code.
Just in case rephrasing helps:
My SVG document is generated by PHP.
In it there are <image> elements that reference images generated by
PHP.
The generated form of the tag is something like <image width="80"
height="79" xlink:href="ideaimage.php?
idea_id=4&anti_csrf=36fad2f0755f50e4f7f202d4949a838536e4d244bb59987fc317c0b47be0cb67fd72d53b"></
image>
In IE8, over https, the images do not display. Everything else works
(wrt SVG).
Below is a table of tested browsers. (best viewed with a fixed width
font :))
browser | HTTPS | HTTP
--------------------------------------
IE8 | no images | images
Firefox 3.6.6 | images | images
Opera 10.6 | images | images
Chrome 5.0.375.99 | images | images
Hope that makes more sense than before!
On Jul 2, 2:11 am, Bradley Neuberg <bradneub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 on what Rick says; if you name your testing resources after the issue,
> such as issue552.html, it makes it much easier when we have several bug test
> files downloaded locally.
>
> >> .
> > .
I will submit an issue as soon as I figure out the minimum amount of
code.
Just in case rephrasing helps:
My SVG document is generated by PHP.
In it there are <image> elements that reference images generated by
PHP.
The generated form of the tag is something like <image width="80"
height="79" xlink:href="ideaimage.php?
idea_id=4&anti_csrf=36fad2f0755f50e4f7f202d4949a838536e4d244bb59987fc317c0b47be0cb67fd72d53b"></
image>
In IE8, over https, the images do not display. Everything else works
(wrt SVG).
Below is a table of tested browsers. (best viewed with a fixed width
font :))
browser | HTTPS | HTTP
--------------------------------------
IE8 | no images | images
Firefox 3.6.6 | images | images
Opera 10.6 | images | images
Chrome 5.0.375.99 | images | images
Hope that makes more sense than before!
On Jul 2, 2:11 am, Bradley Neuberg <bradneub...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 on what Rick says; if you name your testing resources after the issue,
> such as issue552.html, it makes it much easier when we have several bug test
> files downloaded locally.
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:29 AM, R. Masters <gric...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Mojo,
>
> > I've looked at the links you have provided. For the second or third time.
> > The problem is that it is too difficult for us to figure out how to
> > replicate your problem and fix it. You have not explained how one would
> > encounter the problem with your application.
>
> > It is most efficient for us to debug a simple example in our own web server
> > with code we build ourselves that we can instrument and debug. If you file
> > an Issue (http://code.google.com/p/svgweb/issues/list) and attach brief
> > instructions and the minimal amount of files and procedures to reproduce the
> > problem, then you'll get your problem resolved much more quickly.
>
> > With respect to your particular problem, the only problem I have seen with
> > image loading was when the image is too large or of a format that flash does
> > not support. But that is only speculation at this point. You said it did not
> > work on IE8 but you did not say if you tested it in other browsers in flash
> > mode. You said it worked on firefox. Was that using native SVG support or
> > flash? Does it work on IE6 or IE7, but not IE8 or was IE8 the only browser
> > you tested in flash mode?
>
> > Regards,
> > Rick
>
> > P.S. For those who really want to make my life easier, please name your
> > attached files like: i512.html and i512.svg but replace 512 with the Issue
> > number and use src/svg.js as the path to SVG Web inside your examples.
>
> > Mojo,
>
> > I've looked at the links you have provided. For the second or third time.
> > The problem is that it is too difficult for us to figure out how to
> > replicate your problem and fix it. You have not explained how one would
> > encounter the problem with your application.
>
> > It is most efficient for us to debug a simple example in our own web server
> > with code we build ourselves that we can instrument and debug. If you file
> > an Issue (http://code.google.com/p/svgweb/issues/list) and attach brief
> > instructions and the minimal amount of files and procedures to reproduce the
> > problem, then you'll get your problem resolved much more quickly.
>
> > With respect to your particular problem, the only problem I have seen with
> > image loading was when the image is too large or of a format that flash does
> > not support. But that is only speculation at this point. You said it did not
> > work on IE8 but you did not say if you tested it in other browsers in flash
> > mode. You said it worked on firefox. Was that using native SVG support or
> > flash? Does it work on IE6 or IE7, but not IE8 or was IE8 the only browser
> > you tested in flash mode?
>
> > Regards,
> > Rick
>
> > P.S. For those who really want to make my life easier, please name your
> > attached files like: i512.html and i512.svg but replace 512 with the Issue
> > number and use src/svg.js as the path to SVG Web inside your examples.
>
> > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Mojo <mojo-the-waf...@excite.com> wrote:
>
> >> Sorry for sounding ignorant, but, what would you like a demo site to do?
>
> >> The site I mentioned in the OP is a test site, if that's all you need.
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Bradley Neuberg" [bradneub...@gmail.com]
> >> Date: 25/06/2010 17:55
> >> To: svg...@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: HTTPS, IE8 and images
>
> >> Note: Original message sent as attachment
>
> >> --
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>
> >> Sorry for sounding ignorant, but, what would you like a demo site to do?
>
> >> The site I mentioned in the OP is a test site, if that's all you need.
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Bradley Neuberg" [bradneub...@gmail.com]
> >> Date: 25/06/2010 17:55
> >> To: svg...@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: HTTPS, IE8 and images
>
> >> Note: Original message sent as attachment
>
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Matt Ellen
Jul 2, 2010, 10:50:28 AM7/2/10
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Sorry, forgot to mention that flash rendering is forced through a meta
tag.
tag.
Bradley Neuberg
Jul 2, 2010, 2:14:33 PM7/2/10
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Are you sure that you are setting the MIME type correctly for the images when PHP generates them?
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Bradley Neuberg
Jul 2, 2010, 2:15:44 PM7/2/10
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Also, for https, IE 8 made a breaking change where if you mix HTTP and HTTPS URLs on an HTTPS page it will silently ignore HTTP URLs. Make sure that everything on the page is truly HTTPS if the entire page itself is HTTPS (i.e. don't have "mixed content").
Matt Ellen
Jul 30, 2010, 1:26:02 PM7/30/10
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Sorry I've been so long in logging the issue.
It's taken me a while to pin down the minimum amount of code.
I've logged issue 532
On Jul 1, 7:29 pm, "R. Masters" <gric...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mojo,
>
> I've looked at the links you have provided. For the second or third time.
> The problem is that it is too difficult for us to figure out how to
> replicate your problem and fix it. You have not explained how one would
> encounter the problem with your application.
>
> It is most efficient for us to debug a simple example in our own web server
> with code we build ourselves that we can instrument and debug. If you file
> an Issue (http://code.google.com/p/svgweb/issues/list) and attach brief
> instructions and the minimal amount of files and procedures to reproduce the
> problem, then you'll get your problem resolved much more quickly.
>
> With respect to your particular problem, the only problem I have seen with
> image loading was when the image is too large or of a format that flash does
> not support. But that is only speculation at this point. You said it did not
> work on IE8 but you did not say if you tested it in other browsers in flash
> mode. You said it worked on firefox. Was that using native SVG support or
> flash? Does it work on IE6 or IE7, but not IE8 or was IE8 the only browser
> you tested in flash mode?
>
> Regards,
> Rick
>
> P.S. For those who really want to make my life easier, please name your
> attached files like: i512.html and i512.svg but replace 512 with the Issue
> number and use src/svg.js as the path to SVG Web inside your examples.
>
> > .
It's taken me a while to pin down the minimum amount of code.
I've logged issue 532
On Jul 1, 7:29 pm, "R. Masters" <gric...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mojo,
>
> I've looked at the links you have provided. For the second or third time.
> The problem is that it is too difficult for us to figure out how to
> replicate your problem and fix it. You have not explained how one would
> encounter the problem with your application.
>
> It is most efficient for us to debug a simple example in our own web server
> with code we build ourselves that we can instrument and debug. If you file
> an Issue (http://code.google.com/p/svgweb/issues/list) and attach brief
> instructions and the minimal amount of files and procedures to reproduce the
> problem, then you'll get your problem resolved much more quickly.
>
> With respect to your particular problem, the only problem I have seen with
> image loading was when the image is too large or of a format that flash does
> not support. But that is only speculation at this point. You said it did not
> work on IE8 but you did not say if you tested it in other browsers in flash
> mode. You said it worked on firefox. Was that using native SVG support or
> flash? Does it work on IE6 or IE7, but not IE8 or was IE8 the only browser
> you tested in flash mode?
>
> Regards,
> Rick
>
> P.S. For those who really want to make my life easier, please name your
> attached files like: i512.html and i512.svg but replace 512 with the Issue
> number and use src/svg.js as the path to SVG Web inside your examples.
>
> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Mojo <mojo-the-waf...@excite.com> wrote:
> > Sorry for sounding ignorant, but, what would you like a demo site to do?
>
> > The site I mentioned in the OP is a test site, if that's all you need.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Bradley Neuberg" [bradneub...@gmail.com]
> > Date: 25/06/2010 17:55
> > To: svg...@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: HTTPS, IE8 and images
>
> > Note: Original message sent as attachment
>
> > --
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> > Sorry for sounding ignorant, but, what would you like a demo site to do?
>
> > The site I mentioned in the OP is a test site, if that's all you need.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Bradley Neuberg" [bradneub...@gmail.com]
> > Date: 25/06/2010 17:55
> > To: svg...@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: Re: HTTPS, IE8 and images
>
> > Note: Original message sent as attachment
>
> > --
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