Some changes to more search results...

[Phil Haack]

I just checked in some changes to the more search results work that Simo did. I made it so that it automatically loads for every skin. You lose control over where it gets placed, but it always gets placed at the top of the main body. By default it’s highlighted bright yellow.

 

Please try it out and let me know what you think.

 

Also, if you run it on a local host, I made it so you can easily fake the referrer by using the URL. For example, append the following to the end of a blog post URL.

 

?referrer=http://google.com?q=test

 

That’ll trigger the feature.

 

Phil

[Simone Chiaretta]

Great, looking at the latest commit it seems like the box will be
displayed in every page, not just the single post page: is that
correct?

Good thing you moved it to the system skin: not many people will need
to change the way it looks :)

thx
Simone

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[Phil Haack]

It will show up on pretty much every page. Any page that uses DTP.aspx. Should I change that? Does it make sense to only use it with a single post page?

Phil

[Simone Chiaretta]

Yeah, makes more sense.
Not sure about the homepage: maybe it will be cool to have a div that
can be closed
simo

[Phil Haack]

Ok, I'll put an ugly hack to not have it show up on the homepage. I'll also add a close link.

[Simone Chiaretta]

Hi all,
unfortunately my wife Daniela has to work a few hrs a day while we are on holiday, so I'll bring my laptop in the mountains as well.
I was mainly thinking about writing some blog posts, explaining the way Lucene.net has been implemented into subtext and get ready a post for that explains the new feature in subtext.
And I'll make sure the new features (related posts and more results) are nice looking in all the default skins.
Simo

[Phil Haack]

I fixed up more search results :) but do take a look.

I did run into one exception yesterday. Something about a File lock on the AppData directory. I didn't save the stack trace unfortunately. Restarting AppDomain fixed it.

Phil

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[Simone Chiaretta]

Yeah, I know
that happens quite often when you stop debugging: it doesn't trigger the Dispose method and leave the Lucene index in a locked state.
But if you stop the vs webserver correctly it works. Not sure if it's something we have to worry about or not.
Otherwise an "unlock" button might do the trick
Simo

[Simone Chiaretta]

Besides that problem, were you able to index your blog?

[Phil Haack]

Oh good. Should we have a finalizer to be on the safe side?

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[Phil Haack]

Yes, works great!

On the search results page, I'd like to show a bit more info than just
the title. Perhaps date published, excerpt, and maybe categories etc.

Can we do that?

Phil

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On Dec 27, 2009, at 2:43 PM, "Simone Chiaretta" <simone.c...@gmail.com

[Simone Chiaretta]

The date published is already on the page.
For the excerpt... The naive approach is taking the first 100 words. A
better but more complicate one will be taking also into account ends
of paragraphs and similar things.
Do we already have something that builds it?

The cats, not sure if it adds a lot of value, but adding them at
indexing time is not a big deal

simo

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[Stéphane Erbrech]

You could also highlight the word you were searching for and cut an extract of 15 words before and 15 words after.

We do that with article in our news search engine at work. that gives you an extract that puts you in the context of the matched word.

pretty useful and still compact :)

Best Regards,
Cordialement,

Stéphane Erbrech

[Simone Chiaretta]

Yeah, I was thinking about that as well, but how do you deal with
situations where a word is found many times in a post, or when you
search for multiple words?
There is an highlighter module for lucene, I'll have a look at it
simo

On Monday, December 28, 2009, Stéphane Erbrech
<stephane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You could also highlight the word you were searching for and cut an extract of 15 words before and 15 words after.We do that with article in our news search engine at work. that gives you an extract that puts you in the context of the matched word.
>
> pretty useful and still compact :)Best Regards,

> Cordialement,
>
> Stéphane Erbrech
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> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Simone Chiaretta <simone.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> or the excerpt... The naive approach is taking the first 100 words. A
> better but more complicate one will be taking also into account ends
> of paragraphs and similar things.
> Do we already have something that builds it?
>
> The cats, not sure if it adds a lot of value, but adding them at
> indexing time is not a big deal
>
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[Phil Haack]

I'd just do the first occurrence in that case.

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[Stéphane Erbrech]

Yes, you can still have a List of extract, and treat it the way you want display only the first, or display more... that's details :)

Best Regards,
Cordialement,

Stéphane Erbrech

[Simone Chiaretta]

Hi all,
back from holidays :)
was testing the fake referrer feature, but typing
http://localhost:2732/archive/2009/12/11/asp.net-mvc-controllerfactory-for-unity-and-the-reasoning-behind-it.aspx?referrer=http://google.com?q=test

redirects to the homepage
if I don't write http:// in the referrer the feature is not triggered

Simone

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[Phil Haack]

Yeah, the "http://" is required. That's how it should be, right?

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[Simone Chiaretta]

But if I type http:// the browser redirects me to the homepage, not to the post page.
Does it work for you?

[Phil Haack]

Well it can’t just be http:// it needs to be a full URL.

 

http://localhost:2732/ archive/2009/11/19/aspnetmvc2-custom-validation.aspx?referrer=http://google.com/?q=test

 

This works for me.

Phil

 

 

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But if I type http:// the browser redirects me to the homepage, not to the post page.

[Simone Chiaretta]

Yeah.. sure... the full url

http://localhost:2732/archive/2009/12/24/merry-christmas-and-happy-new-year-from-codeclimber.aspx?referrer=http://www.google.com/?q=test

still doesn't work for me... get redirected to the homepage... but nevermind
Simo

[Phil Haack]

Weird. Try stepping through it.

[Simone Chiaretta]

It seems like it's a problem of the browser...
the first request that hits the apps after I type the url is for the default.aspx

Simo

[Simone Chiaretta]

Other then the optimization I'm doing following the suggestions of one of the developers of Lucene.net, what is that we need to add to the search engine before the release?
I see these following possible tasks:

1 - add an excerpt of the document retrieved in the search result (a-la Google, with the text surrounding the first instance of the word)
2 - add search to the aggregate blog
2.1 - add a search page for the whole installation
2.2 - add an opensearch manifest also for the aggreagate blog
2.3 - add some kind of utility page in the host admin

3 - something else I am missing?

Which one do you think are needed for this release?

Simone

[Phil Haack]

I really want to lock down this release. I think we can do a quick point release afterwards that includes search for the aggregate blog.

 

We recently had a flurry of new bugs opened by Bill Graziano who is testing the aggregate blog so I’d want to focus on fixing those first.

 

Unfortunately I’m going to be crazy busy. We have this annoyance coming up with all these so called “MVP”s coming into town and I have to dance like a monkey for them. ;)

[Simone Chiaretta]

Those annoying MVPs :)
So, no more new features, just bug fixing and stabilization: so for
the moment the search result page is ok that way, correct?

I've asked the ugidotnet team to help testing the indexing/searching
with their big db, hope it works fine with 50k blog posts as well :)

they asked a little favour as "payback": that we focus our next
release on making the host admin usable for installation with more
than 10 blogs :)

simo

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[Simon Philp]

Guys,
I am trying to trigger this locally and it's just redirecting me to
the homepage.

I have tried ?referrer=http://google.com?q=subtext skins

result diverted to homepage.

Anyone else having this happen locally?

Si

[Simone Chiaretta]

Yeah, same happens to me... only Phil is seeing it working correctly :)

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[Phil Haack]

Can you step through the code and let me know what’s causing the redirect?

 

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[Simone Chiaretta]

Can u remind me which is the first entrance point of the app?
Simo

[Phil Haack]

BlogRequestModule is probably the best place to start. Or Application_BeginRequest.

Phil

[Phil Haack]

Yeah, would love to help them out. The HostAdmin is a relatively small interface. That'd be a great one to re-implement using MVC Views.

Phil

[Simone Chiaretta]

Yeah.. that could be done :)
I'll meet with him after we release 2.5: he has many requests for the HostAdmin :)

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[Simone Chiaretta]

Using this url:

http://localhost:2732/archive/2009/12/24/merry-christmas-and-happy-new-year-from-codeclimber.aspx?referrer=http://google.com/?q=new+year

The error happens in this method:

GetFileNotFoundRedirectUrl

it seems like it regognizes the URL in the referrer query parameters as an indicator of a redirect from a page not found.

Simone

[Simone Chiaretta]

I checked in a possible fix to the problem.

IMHO the bug is that RightAfter should not return the original string if the separator is not found, but seems like this is a "feature" of the method as this is also explained in the comment in the method.

Simo

[Phil Haack]

I agree. RightAfter should return an empty string if the separator is not found. However, we need to be careful if we change it to make sure that any methods already using it don’t rely on the current behavior.

[Simone Chiaretta]

Well.. for the moment I just return null if the name of the query parameter is referrer (the redirect url is usually in format of 404;http://www.example.com)

We'll come to this problem in the next release :)

Simo

[Phil Haack]

Sounds good. Yeah, let’s make the safest change for now and log a bug for a future release. J