On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:11 PM, Paul Oratofsky <oratof
...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’d like to second this suggestion – to at least get a reading of how
> many points will be acquired – by doing nothing but heading for Indigens
> during Phase 1, and then drilling it as much as possible in Phases 2 & 3.
> It might even be worth seeing the difference between spinning entirely on
> Indigens, versus heading to Opulens when it’s clear of ice, and then
> drilling it. Just to get two baselines for comparison with other actions.
> I hadn’t realized that spinning doesn’t consume fuel. Time for me to reread
> the manual.
> Paul O
> On 9/22/11 2:27 PM, "Dan Lavin" <dan...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Please also consider another cooperative strategy.
> Don't get the laser or upgrade. Instead proceed slowly, expending minimal
> fuel, to the Indigens location and start spinning (or orbiting) so as to be
> at the correct angular velocity as soon as Indigens appears. When Opulens
> is free of ice (or shortly before) move to Opulens, switching roles and
> proceed with mining at Opulens. Try with and without going to the mining
> station.
> On 9/21/2011 11:39 PM, Peter Brooks wrote:
> Folks,
> I have looked over the points earned and the complexity of the tasks and I
> am concerned that time is passing without our clear understanding of what is
> our best strategy even if we agree to cooperate faithfully with the our
> partner (I'm going to use "partner" from now on, rather than "opponent").
> We know a number of theoretical things, but we lack real-world experience.
> For instance, we may all think that orbiting Opulens with a spinning
> partner is the best option. Maybe not. Orbiting expends fuel continuously,
> spinning does not. If we orbit, maybe we'll run out of fuel before or
> during the race to the mining station. And even if we know the fuel costs
> and points gained for individual tasks, task transitions consume time and
> fuel which may not be accounted for. So, it may turn out that spinning on
> Opulens instead and using the fuel saved to race to the mining station will
> ultimately get us more points. Or even abandoning Opulens and mining
> Indigens, without the loss of time to break the ice on Opulens might be
> better. And cooperation can easily lead to close calls, triggering
> collision avoidance. Do we know? Not yet.
> Now that some of us have mastered the really tricky operations, like
> orbiting optimally, it's time to put it all together.
> I propose that teams should attempt to code a complete strategy for a
> match. I propose that we share best code for individual tasks, like getting
> the laser, orbiting an asteroid along an arbitrary rotation axis, spinning
> on an asteroid along an arbitrary axis, being smart about entering orbiting
> so that exit to mining station is optimized (maybe this is too complex and
> so not worth time now), etc.
> What we want is experience, fuel usage, points gained for each complete
> strategy.
> I will make the suggestion that we assume perfect cooperation throughout,
> not worry about communicating at all, nor watching our partner to detect
> betrayals.
> Each of the strategies below should be agnostic with respect to SPHERE
> assignment (i.e. the code should detect which SPHERE you're assigned to by
> viewing initial position and accomplish the task in either case).
> All strategies below will grab laser only, no upgrade.
> *8 Strategies with pair mining cooperation :
> *
> Abbreviations: O=orbit, S=spin, OP=Opulens, IN=Indigens, CMS=closest mining
> station, FMS=farther mining station
> *
> *
> O-OP-CMS: orbit OP, go to closest mining station
> O-OP-FMS: orbit OP, go to far mining station
> S-OP-CMS: spin OP, go to closest mining station
> S-OP-FMS
> O-IN-CMS: orbit IN, etc.
> O-IN-FMS
> S-IN-CMS
> S-IN-FMS
> *4 Strategies with no mining cooperation (individual mining):
> *
> O-IN-CMS
> O-IN-FMS
> S-IN-CMS
> S-IN-FMS
> I do understand that much may depend upon the match's choice of asteroid
> rotation axis. Let's come up with a choice quickly that's neither too bad
> nor too good so we can get started...
> --Mr. Brooks
> ---
> P. Brooks
> Stuyvesant High School
> Mathematics & Computer Science
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