Fwd: [Kc] [pm_groups] ISO location for perl/data center
0 views
Skip to first unread message
Don Ellis
Nov 24, 2009, 1:18:35 PM11/24/09
to St. Louis Perlmongers
Hey, StL Perl folks -- did we get a copy of this message? Does anyone think St. Louis would be a suitable location? Looks to me like we have about everything mentioned for KC except the caves. Maybe we have something else they don't?
--Don Ellis
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Andrew Moore <amo...@mooresystems.com>
Date: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Kc] [pm_groups] ISO location for perl/data center
To: Uri Guttman <u...@stemsystems.com>
Cc: kcpm <k...@mail.pm.org>
Hi Uri -
I'd like to recommend the Kansas City area. Here are just a few of the
reasons that the Kansas City area is a good place for this type of
business:
* We have a small, but active perl community with a regularly meeting
PM group. There are a handful of companies around town that use perl
at some level or another, and we always seem to be able to hire
qualified perl hackers. Sprint tends to bring people to town, train
them, and then lay them off. Other business pick up their engineers on
the cheap.
* Kansas City has good network connectivity to the rest of the country
due to being located near the geographic center of the country and due
to the fiber that has historically been laid along the railroad lines
running through town. Heck, that was enough to convince Sprint to
locate themselves here.
* We're pretty much impervious to the types of natural disasters that
affect data centers. We don't get hurricanes, typhoons, brownouts,
earthquakes, or even noreasters. The occasional tornado is pretty much
ineffective against modern data center construction, especially if
located in the city where the heat island keeps them out. And if
you're really nuts about protection from the natural elements, we have
a huge cave industry here where tons of business is done in the KC
underground.
* Gas, rent, food, and other aspects of the cost of living are cheap
here. Salaries, too.
If you would like to hear more about the perl community in the Kansas
City area, or about the benefits of locating a business here, please
don't hesitate to contact me or the KC perl mongers
<http://kc.pm.org>. Good luck with your search!
Andrew Moore
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Uri Guttman <u...@stemsystems.com> wrote:
>
> please forward this to your local list if you deem it appropriate.
>
> hello mongers,
>
> i have a client who has asked me an interesting question. they are in
> the discussion phase of opening a second data center for their hosting
> business. they are would like it to be west of the mississippi in the US
> but not california (too expensive) and east of there may work too. they
> are seeking a location where they could hire a small (maybe 3-6) staff
> of perl developers, but the number could grow over time. i am helping
> them with this search which is why i am bringing it to the pm
> groups. email me back if you think your area is a good fit for their
> needs. it should have an active perl community with hackers seeking work
> and decent rent and expenses for a data center. i already mentioned
> portland OR and boston. another area that works is seattle. what about
> your monger group's location? email me at u...@perlhunter.com with info
> about your perl monger group and such.
>
> thanx,
>
> uri
>
> --
> Uri Guttman ------ u...@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com --
> ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------
> --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com ---------
> --
> Request pm.org Technical Support via sup...@pm.org
>
> pm_groups mailing list
> pm_g...@pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups
>
_______________________________________________
kc mailing list
k...@pm.org
http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
From: Andrew Moore <amo...@mooresystems.com>
Date: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Kc] [pm_groups] ISO location for perl/data center
To: Uri Guttman <u...@stemsystems.com>
Cc: kcpm <k...@mail.pm.org>
Hi Uri -
I'd like to recommend the Kansas City area. Here are just a few of the
reasons that the Kansas City area is a good place for this type of
business:
* We have a small, but active perl community with a regularly meeting
PM group. There are a handful of companies around town that use perl
at some level or another, and we always seem to be able to hire
qualified perl hackers. Sprint tends to bring people to town, train
them, and then lay them off. Other business pick up their engineers on
the cheap.
* Kansas City has good network connectivity to the rest of the country
due to being located near the geographic center of the country and due
to the fiber that has historically been laid along the railroad lines
running through town. Heck, that was enough to convince Sprint to
locate themselves here.
* We're pretty much impervious to the types of natural disasters that
affect data centers. We don't get hurricanes, typhoons, brownouts,
earthquakes, or even noreasters. The occasional tornado is pretty much
ineffective against modern data center construction, especially if
located in the city where the heat island keeps them out. And if
you're really nuts about protection from the natural elements, we have
a huge cave industry here where tons of business is done in the KC
underground.
* Gas, rent, food, and other aspects of the cost of living are cheap
here. Salaries, too.
If you would like to hear more about the perl community in the Kansas
City area, or about the benefits of locating a business here, please
don't hesitate to contact me or the KC perl mongers
<http://kc.pm.org>. Good luck with your search!
Andrew Moore
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Uri Guttman <u...@stemsystems.com> wrote:
>
> please forward this to your local list if you deem it appropriate.
>
> hello mongers,
>
> i have a client who has asked me an interesting question. they are in
> the discussion phase of opening a second data center for their hosting
> business. they are would like it to be west of the mississippi in the US
> but not california (too expensive) and east of there may work too. they
> are seeking a location where they could hire a small (maybe 3-6) staff
> of perl developers, but the number could grow over time. i am helping
> them with this search which is why i am bringing it to the pm
> groups. email me back if you think your area is a good fit for their
> needs. it should have an active perl community with hackers seeking work
> and decent rent and expenses for a data center. i already mentioned
> portland OR and boston. another area that works is seattle. what about
> your monger group's location? email me at u...@perlhunter.com with info
> about your perl monger group and such.
>
> thanx,
>
> uri
>
> --
> Uri Guttman ------ u...@stemsystems.com -------- http://www.sysarch.com --
> ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support ------
> --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa Mix ---- http://bestfriendscocoa.com ---------
> --
> Request pm.org Technical Support via sup...@pm.org
>
> pm_groups mailing list
> pm_g...@pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups
>
_______________________________________________
kc mailing list
k...@pm.org
http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
L. V. Lammert
Nov 24, 2009, 2:52:05 PM11/24/09
to stl...@googlegroups.com
At 12:18 PM 11/24/2009 -0600, you wrote:
>Hey, StL Perl folks -- did we get a copy of this message? Does anyone
>think St. Louis would be a suitable location? Looks to me like we have
>about everything mentioned for KC except the caves. Maybe we have
>something else they don't?
>
>--Don Ellis
We have a data center - Primary, .. we would be happy to coordinate if
>Hey, StL Perl folks -- did we get a copy of this message? Does anyone
>think St. Louis would be a suitable location? Looks to me like we have
>about everything mentioned for KC except the caves. Maybe we have
>something else they don't?
>
>--Don Ellis
needed (i.e. company name involved).
Lee
>
>Andrew Moore
>
>
>
>On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Uri Guttman
><<mailto:u...@stemsystems.com>u...@stemsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > please forward this to your local list if you deem it appropriate.
> >
> > hello mongers,
> >
> > i have a client who has asked me an interesting question. they are in
> > the discussion phase of opening a second data center for their hosting
> > business. they are would like it to be west of the mississippi in the US
> > but not california (too expensive) and east of there may work too. they
> > are seeking a location where they could hire a small (maybe 3-6) staff
> > of perl developers, but the number could grow over time. i am helping
> > them with this search which is why i am bringing it to the pm
> > groups. email me back if you think your area is a good fit for their
> > needs. it should have an active perl community with hackers seeking work
> > and decent rent and expenses for a data center. i already mentioned
> > portland OR and boston. another area that works is seattle. what about
> > your monger group's location? email me at
> <mailto:u...@perlhunter.com>u...@perlhunter.com with info
>Andrew Moore
>
>
>
>On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Uri Guttman
><<mailto:u...@stemsystems.com>u...@stemsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > please forward this to your local list if you deem it appropriate.
> >
> > hello mongers,
> >
> > i have a client who has asked me an interesting question. they are in
> > the discussion phase of opening a second data center for their hosting
> > business. they are would like it to be west of the mississippi in the US
> > but not california (too expensive) and east of there may work too. they
> > are seeking a location where they could hire a small (maybe 3-6) staff
> > of perl developers, but the number could grow over time. i am helping
> > them with this search which is why i am bringing it to the pm
> > groups. email me back if you think your area is a good fit for their
> > needs. it should have an active perl community with hackers seeking work
> > and decent rent and expenses for a data center. i already mentioned
> > portland OR and boston. another area that works is seattle. what about
> > your monger group's location? email me at
> > about your perl monger group and such.
> >
> > thanx,
> >
> > uri
> >
> > --
> > Uri
> Guttman ------ <mailto:u...@stemsystems.com>u...@stemsystems.com
> >
> > thanx,
> >
> > uri
> >
> > --
> > Uri
> -------- http://www.sysarch.com --
> > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support
> ------
> > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa
> Mix ---- <http://bestfriendscocoa.com>http://bestfriendscocoa.com ---------
> > ----- Perl Code Review , Architecture, Development, Training, Support
> ------
> > --------- Gourmet Hot Cocoa
> > --
> > Request <http://pm.org>pm.org Technical Support via
> <mailto:sup...@pm.org>sup...@pm.org
> >
> > pm_groups mailing list
> > <mailto:pm_g...@pm.org>pm_g...@pm.org
> > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pm_groups
> >
>_______________________________________________
>kc mailing list
><mailto:k...@pm.org>k...@pm.org
> >
>_______________________________________________
>kc mailing list
>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/kc
>
>--
>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>"St. Louis Perl Mongers" group.
>To post to this group, send email to stl...@googlegroups.com.
>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
>stl-pm+un...@googlegroups.com.
>For more options, visit this group at
>http://groups.google.com/group/stl-pm?hl=en.
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages