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Daniel I Golden  
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 More options Nov 7, 1:20 am
From: Daniel I Golden <dgold...@stanford.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 22:20:47 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 1:20 am
Subject: NYT Article: San Francisco’s Cyclists Facing Backlash for Flouting Rules of the Road

Here's an insightful New York Times article about the conflict between
cyclists and motorists on the Peninsula, particularly about cyclists obeying
stop signs. The oft-skipped stop sign at Portola and Alpine in Portola
Valley is mentioned, as is the infamous San Francisco critical mass.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/us/06sfmetro.html?_r=1&partner=rssn...

Dan


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Jason Hegland  
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 More options Nov 7, 12:09 pm
From: Jason Hegland <jhegl...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:09:53 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: [SU Cycling] NYT Article: San Francisco’s Cyclists Facing Backlash for Flouting Rules of the Road

Thanks for sharing, interesting article.

I disagree with the SFBC that "law enforcement [should] prioritize dangerous
activity on the streets in relationship to the harm that it can cause".  I
think cyclists blowing stop signs poses some of the greatest threats they
face on the road.  I know I've been stopped short many times while driving
on campus (particularly at night and by riders with no lights) when suddenly
a cyclist appears on a cross street blowing through the intersection despite
it being my turn and me starting to drive through.  Frankly, more often then
not, I think the bone headed or 'holier-than-though' attitude by many riders
is the greatest danger they'll face on the road.

Final thought - I remember reading a similar article where the author noted
the hypocrisy of rider attitudes - thinking they own the road when they're
on the bike, but then complaining about the absurd behavior of riders once
they're in the car.  I think we'd all benefit from a bit of perspective.

Preaching over! :)

Jason

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Daniel I Golden <dgold...@stanford.edu>wrote:


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George Burkhard  
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 More options Nov 7, 2:29 pm
From: "George Burkhard" <george.burkh...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 11:29:20 -0800
Local: Sat, Nov 7 2009 2:29 pm
Subject: RE: [SU Cycling] Re: NYT Article: San Francisco's Cyclists Facing Backlash for Flouting Rules of the Road

Heh, I should read my email before sending.

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[mailto:stanford-cycling@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jason Hegland
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 9:10 AM
To: Daniel I Golden
Cc: Stanford Cycling; Tri Misc
Subject: [SU Cycling] Re: NYT Article: San Francisco's Cyclists Facing
Backlash for Flouting Rules of the Road

Thanks for sharing, interesting article.  

I disagree with the SFBC that "law enforcement [should] prioritize dangerous
activity on the streets in relationship to the harm that it can cause".  I
think cyclists blowing stop signs poses some of the greatest threats they
face on the road.  I know I've been stopped short many times while driving
on campus (particularly at night and by riders with no lights) when suddenly
a cyclist appears on a cross street blowing through the intersection despite
it being my turn and me starting to drive through.  Frankly, more often then
not, I think the bone headed or 'holier-than-though' attitude by many riders
is the greatest danger they'll face on the road.

Final thought - I remember reading a similar article where the author noted
the hypocrisy of rider attitudes - thinking they own the road when they're
on the bike, but then complaining about the absurd behavior of riders once
they're in the car.  I think we'd all benefit from a bit of perspective.

Preaching over! :)

Jason

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Daniel I Golden <dgold...@stanford.edu>
wrote:

Here's an insightful New York Times article about the conflict between
cyclists and motorists on the Peninsula, particularly about cyclists obeying
stop signs. The oft-skipped stop sign at Portola and Alpine in Portola
Valley is mentioned, as is the infamous San Francisco critical mass.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/us/06sfmetro.html?_r=1
<http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/us/06sfmetro.html?_r=1&partner=rssn...
=rss> &partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Dan


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