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Christine Vogel  
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 More options Apr 30, 2:47 pm
From: Christine Vogel <vogel....@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:47:54 -0500
Local: Thurs, Apr 30 2009 2:47 pm
Subject: combining X!Tandem / SEQUEST / MASQOT etc

Hi,

We have been discussing this in our group and I was wondering whether anyone
knows a reference/publication about this:

Everyone uses different search engines (X!Tandem, SEQUEST, MASCOT, etc), in
combination with Peptide/ProteinProphets lets say.  When looking at the
intersection of the lists of peptide/protein identifications from these
searches, people usually find some overlap, but different pipelines seem to
identify different peptides from the same RAW.  One could imagine simply
combining (taking the union of) the peptide/protein lists that are
identified in the different approaches if one is shooting for high
coverage.

Is there any work on a statistically sound combination of different
techniques, something like a 'meta-search' for mass spectrometry data?
Something that combines different search engines into a common framework?
Something beyond use of the union or intersection of individual protein or
peptide lists?
Is there a study in which someone would simply use the
Peptide/ProteinProphets on PEPXML files that come from, say, X!Tandem and
SEQUEST run on the same RAW file?

Thanks a lot,

Christine


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Brian Searle  
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 More options Jun 26, 8:45 pm
From: Brian Searle <sear...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:45:48 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Jun 26 2009 8:45 pm
Subject: Re: combining X!Tandem / SEQUEST / MASQOT etc
Hi Christine,

I work on a project called Scaffold that does "meta-searching" with
multiple search engines, among other things.  The statistical method
we use is based on the Peptide and ProteinProphet algorithms.  Alexey
Nesvizhskii and I wrote a paper about this method in JPR called
"Improving sensitivity by probabilistically combining results from
multiple MS/MS search methodologies" (J Proteome Res. 2008 Jan;7(1):
245-53).  Please contact me offline if you have questions about how
the method works!

Best,
Brian

(brian.sea...@proteomesoftware.com)

On Apr 30, 11:47 am, Christine Vogel <vogel....@gmail.com> wrote:


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David Shteynberg  
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 More options Jun 30, 3:07 pm
From: David Shteynberg <dshteynb...@systemsbiology.org>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:07:56 -0700
Local: Tues, Jun 30 2009 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: [spctools-discuss] Re: combining X!Tandem / SEQUEST / MASQOT etc
Hi Christine,

We do have a tool in the TPP, called iProphet, for combining search
engines.  This tool applies a set of 5 statistical models of which the
search engine combining is merely one.  We will have a paper coming
out on iProphet in the near future.  Meanwhile, the tool is available
to try in the TPP.  Please check the following thread for some further
instructions:

http://groups.google.com/group/spctools-discuss/browse_thread/thread/...

Thanks,
-David


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