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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 22:55:01 +0200
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Hi,

Welcome, it is true this list is very quite, but it's something we can
change.

Here is a list of resources that should get you started:

Scala Schools -> http://twitter.github.com/scala_school/
Programming in Scala (2nd Edition) Buy the book, you won't regret it.
http://www.artima.com/shop/programming_in_scala

Scala Introduction from a Java Perspective ->
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PKc5IwHG68k
Hilarious intro to Scala -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH75sJAR0hc

I currently working on a fun project using Akka, SBT, ScalaTest and Scalaz,
I've ha.

Regarding your question:
Lift is a very mature Scala framework, but the community is moving towards
Play! framework, it's part of the Typesafe stack.
For a new endevour i'd recommend using Play! instead of Lift. It also plays
nicely with Akka (another Typesafe product).

I have used *Hibernate + Spring* within Scala, they tend to feel javaish
but they are still good for the job.
A couple of gotchas : your bean properties must have setters & hence be
vars. (you could use @BeanProperty for setters)
If you decide to use *Circumflex* tell me how it goes, i've never used it.

*Cake* is good if you want wiring during compile time. you may also want to
check *SUBCUT* (Cake on steroids) https://github.com/dickwall/subcut

*Scala Redis* (I've never used this).

In Summary, this is what i'd recommend

*Play!* Framework http://www.playframework.org/
*Akka* http://www.akka.io
*Hibernate + Spring*
*Scala Redis* (If you are using Redis, it makes sense)
*SBT* https://github.com/harrah/xsbt/wiki (similar to Maven, with more
scala power)

Hope this helps.


Kind Regards
Michael
*I see the fun in functional*

On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Cornel Masson <cornel.mas...@googlemail.com
> wrote:

> I asked this question<http://www.quora.com/Scala/Has-anyone-in-South-Africa-started-using-Scala-even-if-just-in-an-exploratory-way> quite
> some time ago on Quora, and was finally referred to this group today: for a
> while there I thought I was the only Scalar Saffer.
>
> I'm a Java architect/developer and have been using Java for > 10 yrs in
> enterprise computing, websites, database-driven commerce, etc. I want to
> retain the scalability & capability of Java, but dearly want to move to the
> beauty of the Scala language. I haven't programmed anything in Scala yet:
> would the following architecture make sense for a large system:
>
>    - *Scala *as general language
>    - *Lift *as web framework (AFAIK it also supports
>    AJAX/HTML5/Javascript interfaces, as well as RESTful web services)
>    - *Circumflex *for object/relational mapping (can it cope with
>    complexity/performance tuning similar to Hibernate?)
>    - *Cake *pattern for dependency injection (replacing use of a library
>    like Spring)
>    - *Akka *for remoting (if applications need to inter-communicate)
>    - *Scala-Redis* interface if using *Redis *as centralised application
>    cache
>
> Thanks!
>
> Cornel Masson
> Stellenbosch
>

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Hi,<br><br>Welcome, it is true this list is very quite, but it&#39;s someth=
ing we can change.<br><br>Here is a list of resources that should get you s=
tarted:<br><br>Scala Schools -&gt; <a href=3D"http://twitter.github.com/sca=
la_school/">http://twitter.github.com/scala_school/</a><br>
Programming in Scala (2nd Edition) Buy the book, you won&#39;t regret it. <=
a href=3D"http://www.artima.com/shop/programming_in_scala">http://www.artim=
a.com/shop/programming_in_scala</a><br><br>Scala Introduction from a Java P=
erspective -&gt;=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplaye=
r_embedded&amp;v=3DPKc5IwHG68k">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=3Dplay=
er_embedded&amp;v=3DPKc5IwHG68k</a><br>
Hilarious intro to Scala -&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D=
LH75sJAR0hc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLH75sJAR0hc</a><br><br>I curr=
ently working on a fun project using Akka, SBT, ScalaTest and Scalaz, I&#39=
;ve ha. <br>
<br>Regarding your question:<br>Lift is a very mature Scala framework, but =
the community is moving towards Play! framework, it&#39;s part of the Types=
afe stack. <br>For a new endevour i&#39;d recommend using Play! instead of =
Lift. It also plays nicely with Akka (another Typesafe product).<br>
<br>I have used <b>Hibernate + Spring</b> within Scala, they tend to feel j=
avaish but they are still good for the job. <br>A couple of gotchas : your =
bean properties must have setters &amp; hence be vars. (you could use @Bean=
Property for setters)<br>
If you decide to use <b>Circumflex</b> tell me how it goes, i&#39;ve never =
used it.<br><br><b>Cake</b> is good if you want wiring during compile time.=
 you may also want to check <b>SUBCUT</b> (Cake on steroids) <a href=3D"htt=
ps://github.com/dickwall/subcut">https://github.com/dickwall/subcut</a> <br=
>
<br><b>Scala Redis</b> (I&#39;ve never used this).<br><br>In Summary, this =
is what i&#39;d recommend<br><br><b>Play!</b> Framework <a href=3D"http://w=
ww.playframework.org/">http://www.playframework.org/</a><br><b>Akka</b> <a =
href=3D"http://www.akka.io">http://www.akka.io</a><br>
<b>Hibernate + Spring</b><br><b>Scala Redis</b> (If you are using Redis, it=
 makes sense)<br><b>SBT</b> <a href=3D"https://github.com/harrah/xsbt/wiki"=
>https://github.com/harrah/xsbt/wiki</a> (similar to Maven, with more scala=
 power)<br>
<br>Hope this helps.<br><br><br>Kind Regards<br>Michael<br><i>I see the fun=
 in functional</i><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 a=
t 9:41 PM, Cornel Masson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cornel.mas=
s...@googlemail.com">cornel.mas...@googlemail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I asked=A0<a href=3D"http://www.quora.com/Sc=
ala/Has-anyone-in-South-Africa-started-using-Scala-even-if-just-in-an-explo=
ratory-way" target=3D"_blank">this question</a>=A0quite some time ago on Qu=
ora, and was finally referred to this group today: for a while there I thou=
ght I was the only Scalar Saffer.=A0<div>
<br></div><div>I&#39;m a Java architect/developer and have been using Java =
for &gt; 10 yrs in enterprise computing, websites, database-driven commerce=
, etc. I want to retain the scalability &amp; capability of Java, but dearl=
y want to move to the beauty of the Scala language. I haven&#39;t programme=
d anything in Scala yet: would the following architecture make sense for a =
large system:</div>
<div><ul><li><span style=3D"line-height:normal"><b>Scala </b>as general lan=
guage</span></li><li><span style=3D"line-height:normal"><b>Lift </b>as web =
framework (AFAIK it also supports AJAX/HTML5/Javascript interfaces, as well=
 as RESTful web services)</span></li>
<li><span style=3D"line-height:normal"><b>Circumflex </b>for object/relatio=
nal mapping (can it cope with complexity/performance tuning similar to Hibe=
rnate?)</span></li><li><span style=3D"line-height:normal"><b>Cake </b>patte=
rn for dependency injection (replacing use of a library like Spring)</span>=
</li>
<li><span style=3D"line-height:normal"><b>Akka </b>for remoting (if applica=
tions need to inter-communicate)</span></li><li><span style=3D"line-height:=
normal"><b>Scala-Redis</b> interface if using <i>Redis </i>as centralised a=
pplication cache</span></li>
</ul><div>Thanks!</div></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"=
><div><br></div><div>Cornel Masson</div><div>Stellenbosch</div></font></spa=
n></blockquote></div><br>

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