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 More options Jan 6 2012, 1:26 am
From: tc_fea <cervan...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 22:26:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Jan 6 2012 1:26 am
Subject: Re: Thin wall print improvement with Marlin & skeinforge updates
Ian

Raft, bottom and temperature settings affect the separation of the
raft from the part (& the raft from the acylic).

For easy separation of raft from acrylic: adjust Z height in
start.gcode to have the raft look like a nice, partially rounded bead,
not squished or rippled. There is some variation in the height of Z
stage after homing, so even with the right settings I had some issues
and would sometimes kill a print and start over. The Z stage variation
in homing appears to be on the order 0.1 mm (0.004" = thickness of a
human hair) as a guess. If the raft is too squished, it will stick too
hard.

If the raft is too squished, kill the print and decrease the magnitude
of the Z height by 0.05 ( -105.35 to -105.30).
If the raft looks rippled, then the nozzle is too high: increase the
magnitude of the Z height by 0.05 ( -105.35 to -103.40)

The other settings allow for easy separation of part from the acrylic.

BOTTOM:
Activate Bottom True
Additional Height over Layer Thickness (ratio): 0.5
Altitude (mm):  0.05   (FOR SMALL PRINTS AND EASY SEPARATION)
Altitude (mm):  0.00   (FOR LARGE PRINTS THAT ARE EASY TO WARP OR COME
UNSTUCK, this is what I sent to Sam 1/4/12)

RAFT:
Activate Raft   True
Add Raft, Elevate Nozzle, Orbit:        True
Base Feed Rate Multiplier (ratio):      1.0
Base Flow Rate Multiplier (ratio):      1.0
Base Infill Density (ratio):    0.3
Base Layer Thickness over Layer Thickness:      2.0
Base Layers (integer):  1
Base Nozzle Lift over Base Layer Thickness (ratio):     0.5
Initial Circling:       False
Infill Overhang over Extrusion Width (ratio):   0.05
Interface Feed Rate Multiplier (ratio): 1.0
Interface Flow Rate Multiplier (ratio): 1.0
Interface Infill Density (ratio):       0.5
Interface Layer Thickness over Layer Thickness: 1.0
Interface Layers (integer):     0
Interface Nozzle Lift over Interface Layer Thickness (ratio):   0.45
Object First Layer Feed Rate Infill Multiplier (ratio): 1.0
Object First Layer Feed Rate Perimeter Multiplier (ratio):      1.0
Object First Layer Flow Rate Multiplier (ratio):        1.0
Operating Nozzle Lift over Layer Thickness (ratio):     0.5
Raft Additional Margin over Length (%): 1.0
Raft Margin (mm):       4.0

TEMPERATURE: (NOTE: I recently tested 5 degree lower temperatures with
a slight improvement for overhangs, 200 / 190 per Sam's suggestion)
Activate Temperature:   True
Cooling Rate (Celcius/second):  3.0
Heating Rate (Celcius/second):  10.0
Base Temperature (Celcius):     205.0      (HIGHER RAFT TEMPERATURE MAKES
IT STICK BETTER TO THE ACRYLIC)
Interface Temperature (Celcius):        205.0
Object First Layer Infill Temperature (Celcius):        195.0  (LOWER
TEMPERATURE HELPS THIS SEPARATE FROM THE RAFT & OTHER EFFECTS)
Object First Layer Perimeter Temperature (Celcius):     195.0
Object Next Layers Temperature (Celcius):       195.0
Support Layers Temperature (Celcius):   195.0
Supported Layers Temperature (Celcius): 195.0

Tony

On Jan 5, 2:06 am, Ian Johnson <ikelseyjohn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Is there a raft setting that you find allows it to be peeled from the
> part?  Mine usually breaks off from the edges easily enough, but I
> have to pry it from the bottom of the part with an exacto, one row at
> a time.

> On Jan 4, 7:06 pm, tc_fea <cervan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > I always print with a raft, mainly because the acrylic was always
> > warped on my old 3D printer. So far I have not had much luck printing
> > raftless on the Solidoodle. The raft I use is twice the layer height
> > which allows me to set things for easy raft separation and easy part
> > separation from the raft

> > On Jan 4, 3:26 am, Ian Johnson <ikelseyjohn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > What do you use for your first layer settings when printing raftless?
> > > The last two prints I've done turned out well and seemed to have the
> > > right platform height for the build, but they have been next to
> > > impossible to get off.   The first layer is pretty crushed but I
> > > haven't had any trouble with the rest of them being too close to the
> > > nozzle.

> > > On Jan 3, 1:19 pm, tc_fea <cervan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > > I posted a picture of the comparison on facebook at:http://www.facebook.com/Solidoodle?ref=ts#!/photo.php?fbid=2423426630...

> > > > This is a comparison of prints of the wine holder base fromhttp://www.thingiverse.com/thing:13696beforeandafternumerous
> > > > skeinforge setting changes and between old firmware and new marlin
> > > > firmware. There is a significant improvement in quality. The Marlin
> > > > firmware with "look ahead" eliminated virtually all pauses.

> > > > Like Keith I have done a lot of test (60+) to optimize the settings. I
> > > > still want to tweak a few more skeinforge settings: flow rate,
> > > > dimension, jitter & perhaps cool because the Solidoodle can do even
> > > > better.

> > > > Looks like Keith is coming up with some very nice prints and we will
> > > > have two choices now. :)- Hide quoted text -

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