Software Craftsmanship North America 2009 Conference

[Paul Pagel]

Obtiva and 8th Light are teaming up to organize a conference in Chicago August 26, 2009 centered around software craftsmanship.

You can see more information and register at: http://scna.softwarecraftsmanship.com

Best,
Paul Pagel
8th Light

[Doug South]

Hi Paul,

I'd love to be able to attend, but sadly won't be able to make it.
Which got me wondering, is there any chance that the sessions could be
videoed? I've watched a few Ruby sessions that were done by Confreaks
(http://www.confreaks.com/) and the standard is excellent.

I'd be willing to contribute a small amount to see this happen. If
enough people would do the same, I think we might be able to cover the
cost? At a rough estimate, the cost would be under $12,000 ($1,000
daily per room assuming 2 rooms is $2,000 + $600 hourly per track is 2
tracks 8 hours each is $9,600). Alternatively it would be only $9,000
if you were willing to release the content under Creative Commons
Attribution-ShareAlike license. If people "pledged" a maximum they'd
be willing to contribute you might be able to share this with more
than just the people able to attend.

Ideally, if the recordings were shared under the Creative Commons
Attribution-ShareAlike license then the hosting would be free as well
(which is probably the best scenario?). In this case, 90 people
pledging $100, 180 pledging $50 or 360 pledging $25 would be all it
would take to cover the costs (assuming there is no requirement to
make a profit...). And for an additional fee you could send out DVDs
of the conference.

Sound like a good idea?

Regards,
Doug

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[Paul King]

I'd be keen to see videos too. Unfortunately the dates clash with the Agile 2009.

So I'll be across the road but already involved in other things.

Cheers, Paul.

[Doug South]

Keen enough to pay a small amount?

[Paul King]

Potentially. I'd like to see session titles and abstracts first. At the moment we have half the titles and no abstracts.

Cheers, Paul.

[gustin]

I'd be into helping financially with the videos if we can find an even share of people to help out.

It would be wise for us to document, and share, the conference.

I am really excited to attend.

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[Olof Bjarnason]

2009/6/12 gustin <gus...@entryway.net>

I'd be into helping financially with the videos if we can find an even share of people to help out.

+1. I could pay $10 for this.
 

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[Peter Jaros]

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Olof Bjarnason<olof.bj...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> 2009/6/12 gustin <gus...@entryway.net>
>>
>> I'd be into helping financially with the videos if we can find an even
>> share of people to help out.
>
> +1. I could pay $10 for this.

Me too. Sounds like we've got some support. :)

Peter

[Dave Hoover]

The SCNA organizers are actively researching this right now, thanks to
your suggestion. If anyone else is willing to chip in, speak up. :)

[David White]

+$10 from me

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• keen to learn more
  
• found this list via Mark Levison's blog
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2009/6/13 Dave Hoover <dave....@gmail.com>

[James Martin]

I'm in. I think it would be a really useful resource for those who can't make it in person.

Thanks,
James.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 7:38 AM, David White <davi...@gmail.com> wrote:

+$10 from me

[Simone Busoli]

Count me in

[somboo]

I will pay my share, too. I can round up the Tucson craftsman
community and get some more contributions as well.

Sonya

On Jun 14, 11:45 pm, Simone Busoli <simone.bus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Count me in
>

> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 06:14, James Martin <jimmymar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm in. I think it would be a really useful resource for those who can't
> > make it in person.
>
> > Thanks,
> > James.
>

> > On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 7:38 AM, David White <davidi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> +$10 from me

[Joseph Wilk]

Count me in.

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2009/6/15 somboo <sonya...@gmail.com>

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[Steven Smith]

+$10 from me, as well as willing to partner with the conference on
hosting the videos and managing the memberships/sales etc. Been there
done that.

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[caike]

+1 for helping with costs.

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[dsebban]

+$10 from me to help with the videos

Daniel

On 17 juin, 05:24, caike <carloshrso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for helping with costs.
>

> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Steven Smith <ssmith.li...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> > +$10 from me, as well as willing to partner with the conference on
> > hosting the videos and managing the memberships/sales etc.  Been there
> > done that.
>
> > Steve
>

> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Dave Hoover<dave.hoo...@gmail.com>

> > wrote:
>
> > > The SCNA organizers are actively researching this right now, thanks to
> > > your suggestion.  If anyone else is willing to chip in, speak up.  :)
>

> > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Peter Jaros<peter.a.ja...@gmail.com>

[Michael Hunger]

+money from me. Too far from Europe for a quick trip :)

Just set up an paypal account and accept donations for scna.

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[Dave Hoover]

So, we've been working through the details of Doug's call for video
for SCNA. At this point we very much want to video the conference,
but can't yet commit to it because we didn't have it in our original
budget. There have been about a dozen people who have raised their
hand on this list willing to pay $10, which is really cool, but way
less than it takes to pay for the sort of quality (confreaks) that we
would need. We're considering several options for how to provide
video and will continue working on this over the next 2 months. One
option would be for a company (or a few companies) to sponsor the cost
of the video and get their name(s) associated with the content.

Let me know if you'd be interested in sponsoring at that level.

Best,
--Dave

[Olof Bjarnason]

2009/6/22 Dave Hoover <dave....@gmail.com>

So, we've been working through the details of Doug's call for video
for SCNA.  At this point we very much want to video the conference,
but can't yet commit to it because we didn't have it in our original
budget.  There have been about a dozen people who have raised their
hand on this list willing to pay $10, which is really cool, but way
less than it takes to pay for the sort of quality (confreaks) that we
would need.  We're considering several options for how to provide
video and will continue working on this over the next 2 months.  One
option would be for a company (or a few companies) to sponsor the cost
of the video and get their name(s) associated with the content.

Let me know if you'd be interested in sponsoring at that level.

I think it would be good for all of to know what kind of money we are talking about.


10x12 = 120 dollars was way too little, right?

So 1000 dollar? 5000? 10.000?
 

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[Dave Hoover]

It's in $10,000 range. See Doug Smith's email below.

[Dave Hoover]

Um, I mean, Doug South's email. Which is just south of here. ;)

[Simone Busoli]

I don't think people are interested in HD recordings or stuff like that, $10k sounds way too much.

[Mark Levison]

My little bit of experience in this area makes me think 10K is on the high side. Does that include editing costs? How many camera's? How many operators?

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[Olof Bjarnason]

2009/6/22 Mark Levison <ma...@mlevison.com>

My little bit of experience in this area makes me think 10K is on the high side. Does that include editing costs? How many camera's? How many operators?

I tend to agree - how much time/labour is needed for the recording + editing + publishing?

I guess sound recording is important to do, more important than good video. Video is really cheap to do these days, with video mobile phones and all (we need no greater quality than that on the video side - audio is another thing).
 

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[Josh Cronemeyer]

Who is in charge of the video effort?  Whomever it is should consider Pycon.  Pycon was in chicago this year.  They are a volunteer run conference and had some of the best conference video production I have seen. Search for pycon 2009 on blip.tv if you'd like to see what I mean. I believe that Carl Karsten was in charge of the pycon video efforts.  They do a great job having the presenters and slides on the screen at the same time.  Also there were actual people manning the cameras so you never had the case of somebody just walking out of frame for the entire presentation. 

Point is, it doesn't have to be expensive to get good quality video for the conference, but you need some able volunteers.