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s-Naga  
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 More options Jul 4 2007, 4:36 am
From: s-Naga <kirit...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 01:36:13 -0700
Local: Wed, Jul 4 2007 4:36 am
Subject: SocialCalc Localization for Japanese
Dear All!

This is Sachiko Nagahira in CEC.
Now we are going to contribute japanese language file to socialcalc
according to the contract with SocialText. Now, our use version
Socialcalc1.1.0.
I referred SocialCalc Translations(http://www.socialtext.net/open/
index.cgi?socialcalc_translations) for SocialCalc translations.
According to the SocialCalc Translations Page, the best localization
way is definition.txt used.
But, even if I change definition.txt as follows, SocialCalc was not
changed when I saw in a browser after socialcalc.cgi restart.

   string:Page:ページ

I think...
Definitions.txt is loaded in Sheet.pm and Format.pm only.
But, A lot of files (socialcalc.pl,socialcalccgi.pl,lib/*.pm, etc...)
load "String.pm". Just maybe, Strings.pm overrides definitions.txt?

I'm not understand the way to reflecting method to use
definitions.txt.
Please teach me the way.

Nagahira.


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Casey West  
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 More options Jul 5 2007, 11:27 am
From: Casey West <ca...@geeknest.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:27:49 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 5 2007 11:27 am
Subject: Re: SocialCalc Localization for Japanese
On Jul 4, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Dan Bricklin wrote:

> It sounds like there may have been some testing missing when  
> SocialCalc was split into App/SocialCalc with respect to  
> Strings.pm. Did you check with the Polish definitions.txt file? Is  
> it only Japanese that has a problem?

What Polish definitions.txt file?

We did alter the path to the definitions.txt file in  
SocialCalc::Sheet, and tested the interface, during the split. There  
may be a few issues remaining. Dan, perhaps you can download the  
latest and try running it? Preferably from SVN. See socialcalc.org  
for the link to the subversion repository. Report to the list if you  
find any functionality broken.

Cheers,

--
Casey West


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Dan Bricklin  
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 More options Jul 5 2007, 1:01 pm
From: "Dan Bricklin" <dbrick...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 13:01:05 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 5 2007 1:01 pm
Subject: Re: SocialCalc Localization for Japanese

Casey,

I don't think I have that file. I'm not sure how the Polish conversion was
done. It should have used definitions.txt, but they may have just changed
WKCStrings.pm. I only tried it running on their site, I think.

I don't have time to test your change this week. I'm trying to finish up my
documentation of Sheet.pm and SheetFunctions.pm, since that is a gating
factor on lots of things

I see that App::SocialCalc.pm uses App::SocialCalc::Strings. The definitions
are loaded using SocialCalc::Sheet::load_special_strings (called in App::
SocialCalc.pm). SocialCalc::Sheet uses SocialCalc::Strings, not
App::SocialCalc::Strings. I assume this is the problem. Why are there two
copies of Strings.pm and two copies of Datafiles.pm? Are they different?

-DanB

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 More options Jul 6 2007, 4:19 pm
From: Casey West <ca...@geeknest.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 16:19:29 -0400
Local: Fri, Jul 6 2007 4:19 pm
Subject: Re: SocialCalc Localization for Japanese

Hello,

Tony and I have researched your problem. It is a bug we introduced in  
the latest official release of SocialCalc. We have fixed this bug in  
the latest snapshot. You can download the snapshot from our website: http://socialcalc.org
.

Now, any string overrides you make in definitions.txt are available to  
the core and the standalone application.

Please test the latest snapshot and let us know how it works.

Thank you.

On Jul 4, 2007, at 4:36 AM, s-Naga <kirit...@gmail.com> wrote:


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(1 user)  More options Jul 9 2007, 8:13 pm
From: s-Naga <kirit...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:13:58 -0700
Local: Mon, Jul 9 2007 8:13 pm
Subject: Re: SocialCalc Localization for Japanese
Mr. Casey West, Mr. DanB, and Mr. Tony

Thank you for your responses!
I tested the latest snapshot.
However, the expression I defined in "definition.txt" is not refected.

To confirm which file reflected, I changed files "lib/App/SocialCalc/
Strings.pm" and "share/socialcalc/definitions.txt"
example to the following effect.

1. lib/App/SocialCalc/Strings.pm:
Line 264:previewpublishtoserver" => "test(Strings.pm) Publish to the
server as",

2. share/socialcalc/definitions.txt:
Line 171:string:gelisttitle:test(definitions.txt) Pages You Can Edit
On
Site:

1 is reflected, but 2 isn't.

Have I made a mistake in the procedure?
I confirmed it according to the following procedures.

1)The latest snapshot download
Socialcalc-snap.tar.gz is downloaded from SocialCalc.org, and
depressed.

2)Permission change
chmod -R a+755 *

3)Perl module downloadPerl -MCPAN -e shell, etc...

4)String.pm and Definition.txt are changed.

5)Execution
perl socialcalc.pl

6)It confirms it by a browser.
http://127.0.0.1:6556/

Could you give me some advice, please?

Sachiko Nagahira

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 More options Jul 10 2007, 3:07 am
From: Tony Bowden <t...@tmtm.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:07:50 +0300
Local: Tues, Jul 10 2007 3:07 am
Subject: Re: SocialCalc Localization for Japanese

s-Naga wrote:
> I confirmed it according to the following procedures.
> 2)Permission change
> chmod -R a+755 *

> 3)Perl module downloadPerl -MCPAN -e shell, etc...

I'll let Casey respond on the main question, but I'd like to ask about
these two steps. They shouldn't have any impact on the problem you're
reporting, but I'm curious as to why you need to change the permissions
on anything, and on which Perl modules you are needing to download.
Neither of these steps should be required.

Thanks,

Tony


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 More options Jul 10 2007, 5:15 am
From: s-Naga <kirit...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 02:15:12 -0700
Local: Tues, Jul 10 2007 5:15 am
Subject: Re: SocialCalc Localization for Japanese
Mr. Tony!

I answer your questions.

First of all, I try to execute Socialcalc on RHEL4.

When I start it using "bin/socialcalc.pl", Socialcalc can move
locally.

However, when I ran "bin/socialcalccgi.pl",  " Internal Server Error."
displeyed on the Web UI. So, I do many trial referencing the
installation how-to
http://www.socialtext.net/open/index.cgi?socialcalc).

I think, the procedure may be different from definition.txt problem.

Does it become an answer?

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 More options Jul 10 2007, 5:59 am
From: Tony Bowden <t...@tmtm.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:59:51 +0300
Local: Tues, Jul 10 2007 5:59 am
Subject: Re: SocialCalc Localization for Japanese

s-Naga wrote:
> When I start it using "bin/socialcalc.pl", Socialcalc can move
> locally.

Are you sure you're running the latest snapshot? In that there is no
"bin/socialcalc.pl". This may explain your definition.txt problem.

> However, when I ran "bin/socialcalccgi.pl",  " Internal Server Error."
> displeyed on the Web UI. So, I do many trial referencing the
> installation how-to
> (http://www.socialtext.net/open/index.cgi?socialcalc).

The instructions you appear to be following here are for OSX only, to
work around problems with the default perl installation provided by
Apple. These should not be needed on Linux.

These instructions are also only for the 'desktop' version - not the CGI
version, which will require configuration of your webserver and either
setting paths or moving files around.

Tony


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 More options Aug 8 2007, 10:53 pm
From: s-Naga <kirit...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2007 19:53:57 -0700
Local: Wed, Aug 8 2007 10:53 pm
Subject: Re: SocialCalc Localization for Japanese
Hi!

The translation of Japanese was prepared.
However, definitions.txt is not reflected as usual.
Is there a person who succeeds in the reflection of definitions.txt
besides me?
Was anything changed besides share/socialcalc/definitions.txt?


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