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Frank Keeney

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Jun 30, 2008, 3:29:41 PM6/30/08
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I did not buy the original iPhone because it did not include high speed 3g
capability. I know several people that are waiting for the new iPhone for
the same reason.

Now that the new 3g model is coming out soon. I have a few questions on some
of the iPhone capabilities.

1. Can I use the iPhone as a "modem" (via Bluetooth or USB) for my PC to
wirelessly access the Internet? I can do this now with my T-Mobile MDA.

2. Is there an ftp client in the iPhone? I have a business critical need to
upload small files via ftp.

Frank Keeney
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Kenneth Crudup

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Jun 30, 2008, 3:32:54 PM6/30/08
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I just can't believe Apple left out the Bluetooth A2DP (Stereo Headset)
profile. Deal-killer (for me, anyway).

-Kenny

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Richard

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Jul 1, 2008, 1:38:32 AM7/1/08
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They (Apple) say that the new software release will allow 3rd party software runs on iPhones and iTouch products . . . Maybe.

Wait 'till 14 July is all they will say now.

I have to be able to read Adobe PDF's that are DRMed so I have to run Adobe Reader X.x on whatever device I choose. The MacBook is ok for now . . . Can't believe that they didn't add the A2DP Protocol from BlueTooth - that was dumb.
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Stan Slonkosky

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Jul 1, 2008, 1:58:37 AM7/1/08
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http://lifehacker.com/software/feature/use-your-iphones-internet-connection-on-your-laptop-327066.php
describes how someone did it on a current jailbroken phone. Using the
phone as a modem is supposedly against the terms of service.

I heard that although the 3g iPhone will be able to download
applications, they have to be 10 MB or less, which suggests to me that
they don't want it to be used as a modem.


On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Frank Keeney <fr...@pasadena.net> wrote:
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Dave Close

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Jul 1, 2008, 2:11:19 AM7/1/08
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"Stan Slonkosky" wrote:

>I heard that although the 3g iPhone will be able to download
>applications, they have to be 10 MB or less, which suggests to me that
>they don't want it to be used as a modem.

I'm confused. Do you think it takes more than 10 MB to code a modem
application? Or why does this limit cause a problem? People wrote modem
applications in just a few KB not too long ago.

What will more likely limit applications on the iPhone is that they must
be approved by Apple, and signed to authenticate the approval. At least
that's what I derive from online comments...
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Stan Slonkosky

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Jul 1, 2008, 2:28:51 AM7/1/08
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On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Dave Close <da...@compata.com> wrote:
>
> "Stan Slonkosky" wrote:
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>>I heard that although the 3g iPhone will be able to download
>>applications, they have to be 10 MB or less, which suggests to me that
>>they don't want it to be used as a modem.
>
> I'm confused. Do you think it takes more than 10 MB to code a modem
> application? Or why does this limit cause a problem? People wrote modem
> applications in just a few KB not too long ago.

Indeed that's true, but the fact that they are not allowing downloads
greater than that to the phone itself suggests that they might take
action (e.g., cancel an account) if they catch someone starts
downloading large amounts of data in a short period of time,
especially if that's against AT&T's terms of service.

> What will more likely limit applications on the iPhone is that they must
> be approved by Apple, and signed to authenticate the approval. At least
> that's what I derive from online comments...

That's probably the case. It might not be possible to jailbreak it or
downgrade it to an earlier version of the firmware (so it can be
jailbroken) and still have the phone work.

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Frank Keeney

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Jul 1, 2008, 9:19:07 AM7/1/08
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A pretty phone with limited connectivity features.

Some of those HTC phones ae looking more attractive.

Frank

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Charlie Wallace

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Jul 1, 2008, 12:57:38 PM7/1/08
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why even bother with it, i have an 8gb Nokia N95 with a 5MB pixel camera
ar the back, one at the front, stereo speakers, fm radio, 3gp/ram movie
player, stereo bluetooth profiles, 802.11 wireless that lets you use most of
the phone features over the internet instead of the phone, and you can use
skype, its using symbian which is a free sdk, you can self sign apps, as
well as write your own. works with winamp remote too so i can watch movies
(on the 802.11) sitting at the airport, or stream music

i use the tmobile data plan at $39 a month on it so it has no voice and i
just bluetooth tether it, rather than pay for the evdo/edge cards.

its got telnet, ftp, vnc all available , and a QRCode reader built in, gps
and navigation mapping are built in too, google maps, live all work too,
supports flickr and many other services and the cameras good enough to use
it, its also capabable of his res 30fps movie recording.

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Frank Keeney

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Jul 1, 2008, 1:58:19 PM7/1/08
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The Nokia N series looks very good.

I appreciate the suggestion. This may be the right device for me. I'd really
prefer a more "open" platform.

Richard

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Jul 1, 2008, 2:03:49 PM7/1/08
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Will it work on Verzion Wireless?

Open as in Open Source is a good choice, but we are not quite there yet. The big software houses hang on to the paradigm of buying or leasing their product(s) that have proprietary features and interfaces.

The "ripped" version of the iPhone might be the way to go and for me that means a new carrier - to be cheaper.

Charlie Wallace

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Jul 1, 2008, 2:08:46 PM7/1/08
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Verizon is CDMA so nope, they're getting into 4G.
 
Symbian is an open platform.
 
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From: Richard
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:03 AM
Subject: [SOCALWUG] Re: Waiting for 3g iPhone

Stan Slonkosky

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Jul 1, 2008, 3:04:15 PM7/1/08
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On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Richard <brigh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The "ripped" version of the iPhone might be the way to go and for me that
> means a new carrier - to be cheaper.

According to tuaw.com , AT&T will be offering the 3g iPhone without a
contract for a $400 premium ($599 for the 8GB version and $699 for the
16GB version). Maybe you could use it on T-Mobile, but T-Mobile
currently has HSDPA service only in New York City.

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Frank Keeney

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Jul 1, 2008, 5:41:13 PM7/1/08
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I just looked at the Nokia N series at Wireless Toyz. It appears that they
don't have a touch screen. So any text input is done through the phone
keypad.

I'll look at the HTC devices. I know they have a touch screen and most have
slide out QWERTY keyboards.

Frank

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Keeney
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:58 AM
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>
> The Nokia N series looks very good.
>
> I appreciate the suggestion. This may be the right device for
> me. I'd really
> prefer a more "open" platform.
>
>
>

chimpanzee

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Jul 11, 2008, 7:44:57 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 1, 2:41 pm, "Frank Keeney" <fr...@pasadena.net> wrote:
> I just looked at the Nokia N series at Wireless Toyz. It appears that they
> don't have a touch screen. So any text input is done through the phone
> keypad.

Are you serious..the N95 doesn't have a touch screen?

I have a Treo 650 & PPC6700 over Sprint, both with touch screens.
Once you've used touch screens, you'll never "downgrade".

Useability is way better with a touchscreen. I just got a Samsung Ace
(over Sprint), & it's lack of touch screen is a bit ackward. It does
have a scroll wheel, though.

>
> I'll look at the HTC devices. I know they have a touch screen and most have
> slide out QWERTY keyboards.

I have the HTC PPC6700, the slide out keyboard is nice. The newer
6800 model (mogul?) superseded it. I think there's another one called
the Touch.
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