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Tom

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Oct 29, 2012, 8:08:54 AM10/29/12
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BLOODY SUNDAY 1972

That ridiculous film about Bloody Sunday 1972 keeps repeating on ITV3
TV channel, UK. It came up again a day or two ago.

It’s a bit irritating to people who understand what is really going
on.

Bloody Sunday 1972 was preplanned and arranged by the ruling group,
because the ruling group was desperate to increase support for the
Provisional IRA and desperate to increase recruitment to the
Provisional IRA.

THE PROVISIONAL IRA WAS THE RULING GROUP’S ABSOLUTE 100% GUARANTEE
THAT EVERYTHING WILL ALWAYS REMAIN THE SAME AS IT IS.

And that was the only thing the Provisional IRA was ever fighting for,
even if they were too stupid to see it.

The Provisional IRA was always fighting TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS
IT IS FOR ALL ETERNITY, although they didn’t know it.

When Patrick Hackett and Harry Duggan went over to London, obviously
they were too stupid to understand that the Provisional IRA had been
founded and funded and armed and strengthened by the ruling group, and
that by bombing innocent civilians in London they were fighting TO
KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS FOREVER. That was always the
EFFECTIVE aim of the Provisional IRA - to keep everything the same as
it is for all eternity.

Dotty O’Connell in Dublin was just an automaton, not knowing that he
was fighting TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS FOREVER.

Bobby Sands starved himself to death. Why?

TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS FOREVER.

It’s terribly sad that I wasn’t there to explain it to him - that if
he starved himself to death he was fighting for the aim of the
Provisional IRA, which was always TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS
FOREVER. That is why the ruling group founded, funded, armed and
strengthened the Provisional IRA.

=================

The ruling group desperately needed PIRA.

In particular, the Haughey gang in the south of Ireland were
ABSOLUTELY SCARED SHITLESS by the NICRA / Summer of Love / Non Violent
Civil Disobedience approach.

What if that caught on in the south of Ireland……… ?

The Haughey gang in the south would have been finished if the NICRA
approach spread to the south of Ireland. The Haughey gang’s gravy
train would have been derailed by the NICRA approach if it spread to
the south.

The Haughey gang in the south of Ireland was desperate to get the
Provisional IRA up and running, funded and armed, so as to eclipse the
non-violent civil disobedience approach, which would have spelled the
end of the Haughey gang.

=================

Bloody Sunday 1972 was pre-arranged by the ruling group, in their
desperation to increase recruitment to the Provisional IRA, to
completely eclipse the NICRA / non-violent passive civil disobedience
approach, which was such a deadly threat to the ruling group in the
north, to the ruling group in the south and to the ruling group on the
British mainland. All three ruling groups desperately wanted and
needed to increase recruitment to the Provisional IRA, to keep
everything the same as it is for all eternity. So they arranged Bloody
Sunday 1972.

The books that have been written about this event make me sigh with
weariness.

How can they not see it?

WHEN THE HAUGHEY GANG IN THE SOUTH OF IRELAND HELPED TO FOUND AND FUND
AND ARM THE EMBRYONIC PROVISIONAL IRA…….DO YOU THINK THE HAUGHEY GANG
CARED ABOUT DEFENDING THE CATHOLICS IN THE GHETTOS OF BELFAST?

The Haughey gang in the south of Ireland were fighting for their
survival. They desperately needed to get rid of NICRA and substitute
the Provisional IRA.

THE PROVISIONAL IRA WAS THE HAUGHEY GANG’S ABSOLUTE 100% GUARANTEE
THAT EVERYTHING WILL ALWAYS REMAIN THE SAME AS IT IS…..BY ECLIPSING
THE NICRA APPROACH AND PREVENTING THE NICRA APPROACH FROM SPREADING TO
THE SOUTH..

=========================

Sad to say, Harry Duggan, Patrick Hackett, Brendan Dowd ……..etc… when
they bombed English cities……. were unknowingly fighting for the ruling
group, unknowingly fighting TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS FOR
ALL ETERENITY.

The Provisional IRA was a creation of the ruling group, intended to
keep everything the same is it is for all eternity.

=======================================
[I make no apology for writing repetitively because - as far as I know
- no one else has been stating this obvious truth and it’s time
someone stated it loudly in a public place. I’d love to be told I’m
wrong about that.]
=======================================

And the Provisional IRA have certainly made a very good job of making
sure everything will always remain the same as it is for all
eternity.

That is why the ruling group created the Provisional IRA - to fight to
make sure everything will always stay the same as it is, by eclipsing
the NICRA / Summer of Love / non-violent civil disobedience approach.

The Provisional IRA succeeded brilliantly in achieving their aim on
behalf of the ruling group, their aim of making sure that everything
will remain the same as it is forever.

That is why the Haughey gang founded and funded and armed the
Provisional IRA.

That is why Bloody Sunday 1972 was prearranged by the ruling group, to
increase recruitment to PIRA, because PIRA was always fighting to KEEP
EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS.

That is why the Haughey gang was so anxious to help to found and fund
and arm PIRA.

And that is why the ruling group in the north of Ireland and the
ruling group in the south of Ireland and the ruling group in Britain
colluded quite cold-bloodedly to bring about Bloody Sunday 1972, to
increase recruitment to PIRA, because PIRA was always fighting to KEEP
EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS FOR ALL ETERNITY………………… unlike NICRA.

It’s like peeling an onion….. the layers of self delusion fall away
one by one and a person becomes more and more enlightened as they
overcome another layer of self delusion. You can say that NICRA
members were a bit naïve in 1968, but they were learning. If NICRA had
not been eclipsed by PIRA, the layers of self delusion would have
fallen away one by one, and the ruling group in its present form would
have been finished.

So that is why the ruling group arranged Bloody Sunday 1972, because
they were desperate to increase recruitment to PIRA to eclipse the
NICRA approach, which was a ticking timebomb that would destroy the
ruling group if not supplanted by a strengthened Provisional IRA.
Hence the ruling group arranged for Bloody Sunday 1972 to happen.

The books, the newspaper articles, the dramas and the TV documentaries
about that event

- are all terribly naïve.

spiritrising

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Oct 29, 2012, 10:08:07 AM10/29/12
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Tom wrote:
> BLOODY SUNDAY 1972
>
> That ridiculous film about Bloody Sunday 1972 keeps repeating on ITV3
> TV channel, UK. It came up again a day or two ago.
>
> It�s a bit irritating to people who understand what is really going
> on.
>
> Bloody Sunday 1972 was preplanned and arranged by the ruling group,
> because the ruling group was desperate to increase support for the
> Provisional IRA and desperate to increase recruitment to the
> Provisional IRA.
>
> THE PROVISIONAL IRA WAS THE RULING GROUP�S ABSOLUTE 100% GUARANTEE
> THAT EVERYTHING WILL ALWAYS REMAIN THE SAME AS IT IS.
>
> And that was the only thing the Provisional IRA was ever fighting for,
> even if they were too stupid to see it.
>
> The Provisional IRA was always fighting TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS
> IT IS FOR ALL ETERNITY, although they didn�t know it.
>
> When Patrick Hackett and Harry Duggan went over to London, obviously
> they were too stupid to understand that the Provisional IRA had been
> founded and funded and armed and strengthened by the ruling group, and
> that by bombing innocent civilians in London they were fighting TO
> KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS FOREVER. That was always the
> EFFECTIVE aim of the Provisional IRA - to keep everything the same as
> it is for all eternity.
>
> Dotty O�Connell in Dublin was just an automaton, not knowing that he
> was fighting TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS FOREVER.
>
> Bobby Sands starved himself to death. Why?
>
> TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS FOREVER.
>
> It�s terribly sad that I wasn�t there to explain it to him - that if
> he starved himself to death he was fighting for the aim of the
> Provisional IRA, which was always TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS
> FOREVER. That is why the ruling group founded, funded, armed and
> strengthened the Provisional IRA.
>
> =================
>
> The ruling group desperately needed PIRA.
>
> In particular, the Haughey gang in the south of Ireland were
> ABSOLUTELY SCARED SHITLESS by the NICRA / Summer of Love / Non Violent
> Civil Disobedience approach.
>
> What if that caught on in the south of Ireland��� ?
>
> The Haughey gang in the south would have been finished if the NICRA
> approach spread to the south of Ireland. The Haughey gang�s gravy
> train would have been derailed by the NICRA approach if it spread to
> the south.
>
> The Haughey gang in the south of Ireland was desperate to get the
> Provisional IRA up and running, funded and armed, so as to eclipse the
> non-violent civil disobedience approach, which would have spelled the
> end of the Haughey gang.
>
> =================
>
> Bloody Sunday 1972 was pre-arranged by the ruling group, in their
> desperation to increase recruitment to the Provisional IRA, to
> completely eclipse the NICRA / non-violent passive civil disobedience
> approach, which was such a deadly threat to the ruling group in the
> north, to the ruling group in the south and to the ruling group on the
> British mainland. All three ruling groups desperately wanted and
> needed to increase recruitment to the Provisional IRA, to keep
> everything the same as it is for all eternity. So they arranged Bloody
> Sunday 1972.
>
> The books that have been written about this event make me sigh with
> weariness.
>
> How can they not see it?
>
> WHEN THE HAUGHEY GANG IN THE SOUTH OF IRELAND HELPED TO FOUND AND FUND
> AND ARM THE EMBRYONIC PROVISIONAL IRA��.DO YOU THINK THE HAUGHEY GANG
> CARED ABOUT DEFENDING THE CATHOLICS IN THE GHETTOS OF BELFAST?
>
> The Haughey gang in the south of Ireland were fighting for their
> survival. They desperately needed to get rid of NICRA and substitute
> the Provisional IRA.
>
> THE PROVISIONAL IRA WAS THE HAUGHEY GANG�S ABSOLUTE 100% GUARANTEE
> THAT EVERYTHING WILL ALWAYS REMAIN THE SAME AS IT IS�..BY ECLIPSING
> THE NICRA APPROACH AND PREVENTING THE NICRA APPROACH FROM SPREADING TO
> THE SOUTH..
>
> =========================
>
> Sad to say, Harry Duggan, Patrick Hackett, Brendan Dowd ��..etc� when
> they bombed English cities��. were unknowingly fighting for the ruling
> group, unknowingly fighting TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS FOR
> ALL ETERENITY.
>
> The Provisional IRA was a creation of the ruling group, intended to
> keep everything the same is it is for all eternity.
>
> =======================================
> [I make no apology for writing repetitively because - as far as I know
> - no one else has been stating this obvious truth and it�s time
> someone stated it loudly in a public place. I�d love to be told I�m
> wrong about that.]
> =======================================
>
> And the Provisional IRA have certainly made a very good job of making
> sure everything will always remain the same as it is for all
> eternity.
>
> That is why the ruling group created the Provisional IRA - to fight to
> make sure everything will always stay the same as it is, by eclipsing
> the NICRA / Summer of Love / non-violent civil disobedience approach.
>
> The Provisional IRA succeeded brilliantly in achieving their aim on
> behalf of the ruling group, their aim of making sure that everything
> will remain the same as it is forever.
>
> That is why the Haughey gang founded and funded and armed the
> Provisional IRA.
>
> That is why Bloody Sunday 1972 was prearranged by the ruling group, to
> increase recruitment to PIRA, because PIRA was always fighting to KEEP
> EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS.
>
> That is why the Haughey gang was so anxious to help to found and fund
> and arm PIRA.
>
> And that is why the ruling group in the north of Ireland and the
> ruling group in the south of Ireland and the ruling group in Britain
> colluded quite cold-bloodedly to bring about Bloody Sunday 1972, to
> increase recruitment to PIRA, because PIRA was always fighting to KEEP
> EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS FOR ALL ETERNITY������� unlike NICRA.
>
> It�s like peeling an onion�.. the layers of self delusion fall away
> one by one and a person becomes more and more enlightened as they
> overcome another layer of self delusion. You can say that NICRA
> members were a bit na�ve in 1968, but they were learning. If NICRA had
> not been eclipsed by PIRA, the layers of self delusion would have
> fallen away one by one, and the ruling group in its present form would
> have been finished.
>
> So that is why the ruling group arranged Bloody Sunday 1972, because
> they were desperate to increase recruitment to PIRA to eclipse the
> NICRA approach, which was a ticking timebomb that would destroy the
> ruling group if not supplanted by a strengthened Provisional IRA.
> Hence the ruling group arranged for Bloody Sunday 1972 to happen.
>
> The books, the newspaper articles, the dramas and the TV documentaries
> about that event
>
> - are all terribly na�ve.
>

what does any of this have to do with native americans?

Tom

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Oct 30, 2012, 9:20:49 AM10/30/12
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On 29 Oct, 14:08, spiritrising <miketwofeath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> what does any of this have to do with native americans?

=====

Well, I might have missed something, but when I saw a forum with the
title alt.native I just assumed it referred generally to ethnic groups
who have had difficult making their voices heard, which would include
the Irish.

Tom

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Oct 30, 2012, 9:22:03 AM10/30/12
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It’s perfectly simple, if you have the courage to face it.

Why was JFK murdered?

Why was Bobby Kennedy murdered?

Why was Martin Luther King murdered?

Why did the ruling group arrange quite premeditatedly and quite cold-
bloodedly for 14 innocent civilians to be murdered on Bloody Sunday
1972 in Northern Ireland?

The answer is the same in each case.

---------------------------------------------------------

NICRA was modelled on the Martin Luther King approach: non-violent
civil disobedience to get rid of bad laws and unfair practices.

This was a deadly threat to the ruling group.

What if it caught on?

The civil rights march in Derry on that day in 1972 had been declared
illegal.

Illegal?

If the ruling group bans peaceful protests against injustice, where
does that leave us?

Quite correctly, NICRA decided to go ahead with the protest.

But where did that leave the ruling group?

Think about it.

From the ruling group’s standpoint, they had to draw a line there and
then in Derry in 1972, TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS FOR ALL
ETERNITY, just as they drew a line when they murdered Martin Luther
King.

Why the First Battalion British Army Parachute Regiment?

The Parachute Regiment is a killing machine, not a police force to
control a non-violent civil rights march.

The RUC and the ‘B Specials’ knew the area and the populace, and were
the obvious candidates for policing a non-violent, though ‘illegal,’
civil rights protest march.

I think the reader gets the picture now, if you were a bit slow to see
it.

Bloody Sunday 1972 in Northern Ireland was the same type of event as
the murder of Martin Luther King, who had inspired the process of non-
violent civil disobedience in Northern Ireland. When NICRA decided
that they were going to go ahead with their protests when the
‘government’ declared them ‘illegal,’ they ‘crossed a line,’ just as
JFK, Bobby K. and Martin Luther King crossed a line, and threatened
the ruling group’s monopoly of power.

Bloody Sunday 1972 was completely deliberate and completely pre-
planned by the ruling group in the north, by the ruling group in the
south and by the ruling group on the British mainland, although only
some elements of the three ruling groups were in on the plan.

The Haughey gang in the south were particularly in favour of Bloody
Sunday 1972, because they were desperate to increase recruitment to
the Provisional IRA, to protect their gravy train, which is the only
thing the Provisional IRA was ever fighting for - just to protect the
Haughey gang’s gravy train, and generally to KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME
AS IT IS FOR ALL ETERNITY…….that is the only thing the Provisional IRA
- a creation of the ruling group - was ever fighting for.

Can you see it now?

The ruling group desperately needed to INCREASE RECRUITMENT TO THE
PROVISIONAL IRA so as to completely eclipse the NICRA approach of non-
violent civil disobedience and self regulation outside the fake ruling
group authority structure, because the NICRA approach was the death
knell of the ruling group.

Everything is false.

Forget the FAKE DEBATES in the mainstream media and the books by glory-
seeking FAKE ‘historians.’

Just see the world as it actually IS.

Bloody Sunday 1972 was preplanned and fully intentional, because NICRA
had crossed a line by marching when the march had been declared
‘illegal.’ So the ruling group had to stop NICRA and substitute PIRA.

NICRA was destroyed by Bloody Sunday 1972, as recruitment to PIRA
soared, AS INTENDED BY THE RULING GROUP.

And so, the Provisional IRA spent the next few decades FIGHTING FOR
THE RULING GROUP………..

…..above all for the Haughey gang’s gravy train in the south…………..

Remember the satisfied smirk on Charles Haughey’s face when he was
acquitted in the ‘arms trial’ in 1970?

He had armed the provos to fight for him and his gravy train in the
south…….. FIGHTING TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT IS FOR ALL
ETERNITY,

which was always the only purpose of the Provisional IRA……..

…….an organisation founded, funded, armed and strengthened by the
ruling group, to fight for the glorious cause of KEEPING EVERYTHING
THE SAME AS IT IS FOR ALL ETERNITY.

In that sense, the Provisional IRA has been a great success!

And that is the only reason why those 14 men were murdered by the
ruling group on Bloody Sunday 1972 - TO KEEP EVERYTHING THE SAME AS IT
IS FOR ALL ETERNITY and - in particular - to keep the Haughey gang’s
gravy train up and running by eclipsing the NICRA approach.

When something like this happens, THE ONLY REFUGE IS DENIAL.

The face-saving efforts are hugely embarrassing to me. For example, I
could not bear the pain of reading those books written by Gerry Adams.
The pain would be unbearable.

It was bad enough to read the attempts to whitewash Eamon de Valera.

Dorothy Macardle and Thomas Pakenham tried so very hard to whitewash
Eamon de Valera……. Some of us see through the whitewash.

Oh, that’s enough for today…………..

REMEMBER BLOODY SUNDAY 1972, THE RULING GROUP’S ASSASSINATION OF NICRA
VIA 14 INNOCENT VICTIMS, TO ACHIEVE THE GOVERNMENT’S AIM OF INCREASING
RECRUITMENT TO THE PROVISIONAL IRA, TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING WILL
REMAIN THE SAME AS IT IS FOR ALL ETERNITY, WHICH WAS ALWAYS THE ONLY
AIM OF THE PROVISIONAL IRA, WHO WERE THE DARLINGS OF THE RULING GROUP;
IN FACT THE PROVISIONAL IRA WAS A CREATION OF THE RULING GROUP -
NORTH, SOUTH AND EAST!

THE THREE RULING GROUPS IN THESE ISLANDS LOVED THE PROVISIONAL IRA,
WHO WERE ALWAYS FIGHTING FOR THE STATUS QUO, UNLIKE NICRA.

Bloody Sunday 1972 in Northern Ireland was the assassination of NICRA,
corresponding to the assassination of JFK, Bobby and Mr King, and for
the same reason.
=========================================

spiritrising

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Oct 30, 2012, 11:54:53 AM10/30/12
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the gulf between whites and native americans is too wide to associate
the two.

spiritrising

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Oct 30, 2012, 11:56:50 AM10/30/12
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personally if all the whites die as well as the blacks it would be much
easier for native americans. so them killing each other off is a good
thing. sounds radical right? just have to read north american history to
understand why.

conway caine

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"spiritrising" wrote in message
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*****Isn't that a bit of a stretch?

Unknown

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There are those people in Ireland, and almost every large family has
one. The really pale skin, with jet black hair. Chased apparently from
Ireland by the Celts or some such early crowd. Think they might be
considered native.

max.it (the orange cage)

spiritrising

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Nov 1, 2012, 8:31:35 AM11/1/12
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well if 6 billion whites die all at once, i would be happy is that a
stretch?

conway caine

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"max.it" wrote in message news:5091b617...@news.btinternet.com...

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:39:27 -0400, "conway caine"

There are those people in Ireland, and almost every large family has
one. The really pale skin, with jet black hair. Chased apparently from
Ireland by the Celts or some such early crowd. Think they might be
considered native.

*****As are ye all.
But I seem to recall that the Fir Bolg were the dark ones.
Then came the Children of Danu.
After that, so much for the Fir Bolg ........................

conway caine

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"spiritrising" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:
>>
> the gulf between whites and native americans is too wide to associate
> the two.
>
> *****Isn't that a bit of a stretch?
>

well if 6 billion whites die all at once, i would be happy is that a
stretch?

****You spend too much time remembering past atrocities.
It's over. It's done. And cannot be undone.
Concentrate on keeping the heritage alive.
Make THAT your gift to the future generations, not blind hate.


Tom

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On 1 Nov, 15:20, "conway caine" <conwayca...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
.....................
> But I seem to recall that the Fir Bolg were the dark ones.
> Then came the Children of Danu.
> After that, so much for the Fir Bolg ........................

===

As explained by Garner Ted Armstrong............
The Irish are Jews:
http://www.garnertedarmstrong.org/pubs/europe.htm

Unknown

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Might be thinking if fir bolg.
After being chased didn't the fir bolg come back and support danu in
return for a homeland on the west coast or something?

max.it (the orange cage)

spiritrising

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Nov 2, 2012, 8:10:39 AM11/2/12
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not really i just know the earth is overpopulated and in reality it can
only manage 485,000 people and not wear out. and whites would make a
good victim but heck your bringing up the past and it should include mine.

conway caine

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"max.it" wrote in message news:5092e040...@news.btinternet.com...
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:20:45 -0400, "conway caine"

>There are those people in Ireland, and almost every large family has
>one. The really pale skin, with jet black hair. Chased apparently from
>Ireland by the Celts or some such early crowd. Think they might be
>considered native.
>
>*****As are ye all.
>But I seem to recall that the Fir Bolg were the dark ones.
>Then came the Children of Danu.
>After that, so much for the Fir Bolg ........................
>

Might be thinking if fir bolg.
After being chased didn't the fir bolg come back and support danu in
return for a homeland on the west coast or something?

****I seem to recall (probably incorrectly) a legend that the Fir Bolg went
underground and morphed into the little people.
Seeking their revenge then would have caused them to abduct Gaelic children.
(And flaunt pots of gold)



conway caine

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"spiritrising" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:

not really i just know the earth is overpopulated and in reality it can
only manage 485,000 people and not wear out. and whites would make a
good victim but heck your bringing up the past and it should include mine.

****You've never mentioned which nation you belong to.
But I'll bet the past history of you’re ancestors is not radically different
than mine.
The Ani Unaka were an equal opportunity plunderer of the First People.
But I certainly don't wish harm to their descendants who had nothing to do
with the horrors perpetrated by their ancestors.

Unknown

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Nov 2, 2012, 8:40:09 PM11/2/12
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Blame me, had another grandchild today. A wee boy this time. We'll
have him playing cricket as soon as he can walk.

max.it (the orange cage)

spiritrising

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Nov 3, 2012, 8:40:38 AM11/3/12
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you got to realize your reading the perspective written by whites what
you call the first people, really weren't first, the upper states tribes
were much more fierce than any tribe that came out of a cave in tn.

spiritrising

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that is ok i'm working with china to make sure all of europe gets the
first missiles.

Unknown

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Nov 3, 2012, 11:18:44 PM11/3/12
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Keep up the good work.
Any good remedies for pleurisy? It's bloody painful, no laughing, no
coughing, can only speak in a whisper and a good deep breath of fresh
air would fell me at the moment.

max.it (the orange cage)

spiritrising

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Nov 4, 2012, 8:52:59 AM11/4/12
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so the drug induced lupus is working..... it should have happened long
ago when i started spraying with jets in the air

conway caine

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Blame me, had another grandchild today. A wee boy this time. We'll
have him playing cricket as soon as he can walk.

*****Ye gods, Max! Teach the lad Hurling for heaven's sake.
(Cricket indeed)

conway caine

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"spiritrising" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:

> ****You've never mentioned which nation you belong to.
> But I'll bet the past history of you’re ancestors is not radically
> different than mine.
> The Ani Unaka were an equal opportunity plunderer of the First People.
> But I certainly don't wish harm to their descendants who had nothing to
> do with the horrors perpetrated by their ancestors.

you got to realize your reading the perspective written by whites what
you call the first people, really weren't first, the upper states tribes
were much more fierce than any tribe that came out of a cave in tn.

*****Dear heart, the term "First People" is used by many Native Americans to
describe themselves as being in America first.
It is not unique to any one nation.
Having said that, often the name used by individual tribes for themselves
would translate to "Principal People".
As in "Ani Yun Weya".

Pretty good on the "People of the Caves".
The Tsalagi were often called that by the tribes who were "enjoying"
Cherokee hospitality.
The list is long:
Catawba
Creeks
The Onwe Yonwe
Tuscarora

All learned not to mess with the Ani Kituwah.






Unknown

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Hurling is ok for a bash, but there isn't nearly enough (any) money in
it.

max.it (the orange cage)

conway caine

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Nov 6, 2012, 12:08:52 PM11/6/12
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"max.it" wrote in message news:50980213...@news.btinternet.com...

On Mon, 5 Nov 2012 11:15:33 -0500, "conway caine"

>Blame me, had another grandchild today. A wee boy this time. We'll
>have him playing cricket as soon as he can walk.
>
>*****Ye gods, Max! Teach the lad Hurling for heaven's sake.
>(Cricket indeed)

Hurling is ok for a bash, but there isn't nearly enough (any) money in
it.

****For love of the sport, Max, not for filthy lucre.
In what other sport can you bash brains out of an opponent with an ash
stick, all accompanied by the roars of approving spectators?
(and the Garda powerless to interfere)

Unknown

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Nov 6, 2012, 3:09:58 PM11/6/12
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What other sport can you get paid for flinging down a 5 1/2 ounce
projectile at your opponent's body? If you are batsman it could be at
your head or at your toes.

Shoaib Aktar, the Rawalpindi express.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dGFFfKtHDM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7kAkspcbdI

A gentlemans game.

max.it (the orange cage)

conway caine

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:38:59 PM11/7/12
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"max.it" wrote in message news:50995de...@news.btinternet.com...

On Tue, 6 Nov 2012 12:08:52 -0500, "conway caine"
>
>****For love of the sport, Max, not for filthy lucre.
>In what other sport can you bash brains out of an opponent with an ash
>stick, all accompanied by the roars of approving spectators?
>(and the Garda powerless to interfere)
>

What other sport can you get paid for flinging down a 5 1/2 ounce
projectile at your opponent's body? If you are batsman it could be at
your head or at your toes.

****Not to mention the natty white togs one may wear while prancing about
the field (or court or whatever).

spiritrising

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Nov 7, 2012, 12:47:00 PM11/7/12
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shit i can get you a job where you throw a 47.6 gram piece of metal and
get paid a salary, and you can wear this cool camo outfit

Unknown

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Nov 7, 2012, 6:14:03 PM11/7/12
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When I'm umpiring I get to wear a shirt and tie. Most cricket these
days is played in coloured clothing. It's the first class game that
wears the whites.
Though, league cricket in northern cricket union is played in whites.

max.it (the orange cage)

Unknown

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Nov 7, 2012, 6:19:08 PM11/7/12
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Wouldn't fancy batting.

max.it (the orange cage)

Tom

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Nov 8, 2012, 6:46:36 AM11/8/12
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It was an attempt at a serious conversation.
The level of intelligent response is greater on this thread:
http://www.indymedia.ie/article/102663

conway caine

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:41:04 AM11/8/12
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"spiritrising" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:

>> ****For love of the sport, Max, not for filthy lucre.
>> In what other sport can you bash brains out of an opponent with an ash
>> stick, all accompanied by the roars of approving spectators?
>> (and the Garda powerless to interfere)
>>
>
> What other sport can you get paid for flinging down a 5 1/2 ounce
> projectile at your opponent's body? If you are batsman it could be at
> your head or at your toes.
>
> ****Not to mention the natty white togs one may wear while prancing
> about the field (or court or whatever).
>

shit i can get you a job where you throw a 47.6 gram piece of metal and
get paid a salary, and you can wear this cool camo outfit

****The Hammer Toss at a Highlands game????

conway caine

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:42:48 AM11/8/12
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"max.it" wrote in message news:509ae9d6...@news.btinternet.com...
On Wed, 7 Nov 2012 12:38:59 -0500, "conway caine"

When I'm umpiring I get to wear a shirt and tie. Most cricket these
days is played in coloured clothing. It's the first class game that
wears the whites.
Though, league cricket in northern cricket union is played in whites.

****There is more to the game than meets my colonial eye.
(Despite my somewhat humorous denigrations).

Unknown

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Nov 8, 2012, 1:43:11 PM11/8/12
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6 hours for 4 or 5 days in the baking sun, what else would you wear?
In the olden days 1920ish. Test matches were timeless, the game was
played until somebody won, there was no provision for a drawn match.
Games could last for over a week. You wouldn't be too white after
that, and neither would your clothes.

max.it (the orange cage)

spiritrising

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Nov 9, 2012, 8:53:20 AM11/9/12
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sniper with a 50cal

conway caine

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Nov 10, 2012, 10:10:02 AM11/10/12
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"max.it" wrote in message news:509bfc95...@news.btinternet.com...

On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 09:42:48 -0500, "conway caine"

6 hours for 4 or 5 days in the baking sun, what else would you wear?
In the olden days 1920ish. Test matches were timeless, the game was
played until somebody won, there was no provision for a drawn match.
Games could last for over a week. You wouldn't be too white after
that, and neither would your clothes.

****Try an afternoon of lawn bowling. No soiled attire there!!!

conway caine

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Nov 10, 2012, 10:13:38 AM11/10/12
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"spiritrising" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:
>
> ****The Hammer Toss at a Highlands game????
>
sniper with a 50cal

***I saw a demonstration of the state of modern sniping.
Pooping targets at a mile or more.
Ye gods!!!!

Unknown

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Nov 10, 2012, 4:57:43 PM11/10/12
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It had crossed my mind actually.
My good Indian friend explained to me why Indians don't play much
rugby, but prefer cricket. It's a social/religious quirk. You might
have to contact a person who you shouldn't. Crazy!!

Hard luck Ireland today. Whatever the Saffa coach said at half time
done the trick.

max.it (the orange cage)

spiritrising

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Nov 11, 2012, 8:45:45 AM11/11/12
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i did it in the army for a short while, watching the pink mist is always
fun. and i got paid to do it.

conway caine

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Nov 11, 2012, 11:45:08 AM11/11/12
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"max.it" wrote in message news:509ecba0...@news.btinternet.com...

On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 10:10:02 -0500, "conway caine"
>
>****Try an afternoon of lawn bowling. No soiled attire there!!!

It had crossed my mind actually.

****May I suggest an alternative? Road bowling (o whatever the actual name
is) would be yer man.

My good Indian friend explained to me why Indians don't play much
rugby, but prefer cricket. It's a social/religious quirk. You might
have to contact a person who you shouldn't. Crazy!!

*****Considering the average Hindu weighs in at 93 pounds or so, I don't
blame them.

conway caine

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Nov 11, 2012, 11:50:25 AM11/11/12
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"spiritrising" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:
>
> ***I saw a demonstration of the state of modern sniping.
> Pooping targets at a mile or more.
> Ye gods!!!!

i did it in the army for a short while, watching the pink mist is always
fun. and i got paid to do it.

***My grandson was hot after being a Marine sniper.
My nephew, a combat vet, suggested he put on his Gilly suit and lay out in
the hot sun, totally motionless, for a minimum of eight hours.
Then decide if he truly wanted to engage in that activity.
(Happy Veteran's day, BTW)

Tom

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Nov 12, 2012, 6:12:51 AM11/12/12
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> > On 29 Oct, 14:08, spiritrising <miketwofeath...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> the gulf between whites and native americans is too wide to associate
> the two.
===============

You mean *Ulzana's Raid*?
The whites were bad, but not as bad as the Injuns.
And the Injuns were doing all of that to other Injun tribes long
before the whites came.
That is your culture that you are trying to preserve - Ulzana's Raid.
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.local.yorkshire/msg/b34e15abf2f34de4?hl=en-GB

spiritrising

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Nov 12, 2012, 8:17:40 AM11/12/12
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we had to make the weapon as well, i started out with a 30-06 hunting
rifle ordered from the states, and then 2 years later a modified m14 for
about 6 months and then a barrett 50 cal. being a second lieutenant was
ok, but the higher up you went in rank the less you went into the field
in sog in the nam, retired as a ltcol when i was 58, wish i would have
made full bird, would have if i stayed in. ghillie suits are not that
hot, infact they will keep you cool in direct sun, and they keep bugs
off you, nothing worse than a mosquito biting you in nam. i had snakes
crawl over me and they never knew i was there. snakes are tasty don't ya
know.

spiritrising

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Nov 12, 2012, 8:20:03 AM11/12/12
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and to think we did it without guns! much better up close and personal.
but we didn't kill children and women, we took them to be our own,
unlike the whites who killed everything

conway caine

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"spiritrising" wrote in message
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conway caine wrote:

we had to make the weapon as well, i started out with a 30-06 hunting
rifle ordered from the states, and then 2 years later a modified m14 for
about 6 months and then a barrett 50 cal. being a second lieutenant was
ok, but the higher up you went in rank the less you went into the field
in sog in the nam, retired as a ltcol when i was 58, wish i would have
made full bird, would have if i stayed in. ghillie suits are not that
hot, infact they will keep you cool in direct sun, and they keep bugs
off you, nothing worse than a mosquito biting you in nam. i had snakes
crawl over me and they never knew i was there. snakes are tasty don't ya
know.

***Thus the term "Snake Eater"
I heard that Rattlesnake tastes a bit like chicken.
RE Ghillie Suit: Crapping and Peeing while inching across the ground for
hours on in must not have been all that enjoyable.
Anything for the shot, I guess.

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