Things You Have to Believe to be a Republican Today
Sid9
* Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a
conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers
for your recovery.
* The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our
highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.
* Government should relax regulation of Big Business and Big Money but
crack down on individuals who use marijuana to relieve the pain of illness.
* "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their
jobs to India.
* A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
without regulation.
* Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary
Clinton.
* The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in
speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
* Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins unless you someday run for
governor of California as a Republican.
* If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
* Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's
daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a
bad guy
when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
* A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable
offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands
die is
solid defense policy.
* Government should limit itself to the powers named in the
Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet
* The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but
George Bush's driving record is none of our business.
* You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John Ashcroft
can tell states what local voter initiatives they have a right to adopt.
* What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but
what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
* Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade
with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
Christian Williamson
> Things You Have to Believe to be a Republican Today:
Why do you think you have the authority to speak for all Republicans,
especially given your leftist beliefs?
Robert
"Christian Williamson" <cdw...@erols.com> wrote in message
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> Sid9 wrote:
>
> > Things You Have to Believe to be a Republican Today:
>
> Why do you think you have the authority to speak for all Republicans,
> especially given your leftist beliefs?
>
I noticed you didn't refute anything here
Sid9
Republican hypocrisy gives me the authority.
Christian Williamson
I didn't refute it because it's not authorized, and it's a caricature.
Jerkin
Edw
Which of the positions outlined have you not espoused?
>
Roedy Green
<cdw...@erols.com> wrote or quoted :
>Why do you think you have the authority to speak for all Republicans,
>especially given your leftist beliefs?
You sound so ridiculous when you try to act pompous.
He, as a critic, is pointing out the cognitive dissonance in the
Republican positions. They are inconsistent, even crazy. You say
this same sort of shit every day blithely unaware of how insane it
sounds.
My reaction is "Where do I begin. This poor boy is SO confused. It's
hopeless... His brain is too far gone."
--
Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
Coaching, problem solving, economical contract programming.
See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jgloss.html for The Java Glossary.
Robert
No, sir, you area a caricature
Christian Williamson
> On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:55:23 -0500, Christian Williamson
> <cdw...@erols.com> wrote or quoted :
>
>
>>Why do you think you have the authority to speak for all Republicans,
>>especially given your leftist beliefs?
>
>
> You sound so ridiculous when you try to act pompous.
>
> He, as a critic, is pointing out the cognitive dissonance in the
> Republican positions.
His post is a caricature, a representation of the other side that simply
doesn't reflect the truth in any way. I see this kind of thing from both
sides, including from you.
> They are inconsistent, even crazy. You say
> this same sort of shit every day blithely unaware of how insane it
> sounds.
Nonsense. But such an accusation is certainly consonant with your
previous posts....
Edw
> Roedy Green wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:55:23 -0500, Christian Williamson
> > <cdw...@erols.com> wrote or quoted :
> >
> >
> >>Why do you think you have the authority to speak for all Republicans,
> >>especially given your leftist beliefs?
> >
> >
> > You sound so ridiculous when you try to act pompous.
> >
> > He, as a critic, is pointing out the cognitive dissonance in the
> > Republican positions.
>
> His post is a caricature, a representation of the other side that simply
> doesn't reflect the truth in any way. I see this kind of thing from both
> sides, including from you.
>
> > They are inconsistent, even crazy. You say
> > this same sort of shit every day blithely unaware of how insane it
> > sounds.
>
> Nonsense. But such an accusation is certainly consonant with your
> previous posts....
OOOOH! "Consonant" You must be a malician.
JimmyD
1. Belief in God will destroy the country.
2. Morals are a bad thing.
3. Hard working Americans should give their money to lazy Americans.
4. Men who molest boys are heterosexual.
5. You can reason with people who want to kill you.
6. African Americans can not achieve without help.
7. The U.N. and world court should have authority over the U.S.
8. We don't really need a military.
9. We don't need oil.
10. Animals have more rights then people do.
11. It's none of the parents business if their thirteen year old daughter get an
abortion.
12. Trees can't be replaced.
13. Forest fires are better than someone making a living cutting down trees for
lumber.
14. It's not fair that some people get better health care than others, so
everyone should get poor health care and hard working Americans should pay for
it so lazy Americans don't have to.
15. successful people cheat and steal.
Roedy Green
or quoted :
You really need a course in reading comprehension, or perhaps on in
ethics.
>1. Belief in God will destroy the country.
No. They simply say the state is not permitted to favour one religion
over another.
>
>2. Morals are a bad thing.
Nonsense. Bush has no morals. That is why we despise him.
>
>3. Hard working Americans should give their money to lazy Americans.
no one should starve to death for lack of money. If you got to know
some homeless people, you would find that laziness is not the reason
most people are homeless.
>
>4. Men who molest boys are heterosexual.
No MOST men who molest children are heterosexual.
>
>5. You can reason with people who want to kill you.
Yes. I have done it myself successfully on numerous occasions.
>
>6. African Americans can not achieve without help.
No, America must start treating African Americans FAIRLY.
>
>7. The U.N. and world court should have authority over the U.S.
correct. The US should not be trying to boss the world.
>
>8. We don't really need a military.
Nonsense. It is just you don't need one many time the size of the rest
of the world put together. That is paranoia. It forces an arms race.
>
>9. We don't need oil.
Oil is running out. There needs to be research into a replacement and
conversion of the entire economy. This will take decades.
>
>10. Animals have more rights then people do.
Without the other plants and animals, all humanity will die. We have
to maintain an healthy biodiverse ecosphere. It is our life support
system.
James Monroe
"Authorized"?
Oh, my...you mean it didn't come down from on high? Maybe they're just
a little behind; they'll be telling you what to think any day now and
then it will be "authorized".
Remain diligent and on guard. You're a fine patriotic American to not
discuss something that's not "authorized".
Burn any books not "authorized", too. Just to be on the safe side.
FredThe Fish
repub list bore some semblance to reality. "Morals are a bad thing?"
THat's just fucking stupid.
--
If Jesus came back and saw what's going on in his name, he'd never stop
throwing up.
"JimmyD" <j...@starkiller.org> wrote in message
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ArtKramr
>From: "Sid9" si...@bellsouth.net
>Date: 2/29/04 6:49 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <Tvx0c.68477$Ve2....@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
ROFL. Well said,
Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
meport
--
If you get what you want, what's to stop you
from asking for more?
"Christian Williamson" <cdw...@erols.com> wrote in message
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meport
based,. Doesn't god himself, in the bible itself, require that all
believers in him:
1. share their wealth with those who are less fortunate, because isn't it
true that god clearly stated "it's easier for a camel to pass through the
eye of a needle then for a rich man (who doesn't share his wealth) to get to
heaven"?
2. shepherd the earth to insure that all creatures are protected and can
thrive?
3. turn the other cheek?
4. shepherd the resources on earth for all the creatures and for all the
peoples of the earth?
5. divide the wealth of this earth equally amongst all the peoples of the
earth?
I guess you are on the road to damnation because you seem to have missed
these parts your religion. Say hell to satin for me. For some reason,
since I try to follow these point, I don't think I'm going to be meeting
him. I bet I'll be saying hello to god.
--
If you get what you want, what's to stop you
from asking for more?
"JimmyD" <j...@starkiller.org> wrote in message
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Edw
>
> 1. Belief in God will destroy the country.
Not so; the imposition of any dogma is unconstitutional.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, nor the
free exercise thereof."
>
> 2. Morals are a bad thing.
Anyone who got through middle school civics knows that morals are not the
business of government, except in totalitarian and theocratic forms.
>
> 3. Hard working Americans should give their money to lazy Americans.
Michael Eisner and Ken Lay being two shining examples of "hard-working
Americans."
>
> 4. Men who molest boys are heterosexual.
Men who molest boys are pedophiles.
>
> 5. You can reason with people who want to kill you.
No-one says this.
>
> 6. African Americans can not achieve without help.
No-one says this either.
>
> 7. The U.N. and world court should have authority over the U.S.
Why not?
>
> 8. We don't really need a military.
A third strawman.
>
> 9. We don't need oil.
In 75 years, we had better not.
>
> 10. Animals have more rights then people do.
PETA, et al. are not associated with the Dem. Party
>
> 11. It's none of the parents business if their thirteen year old daughter
get an
> abortion.
Think about that. How does a 13 year old get pregnant, without her parents
knowing?
>
> 12. Trees can't be replaced.
Read a book, fool.
>
> 13. Forest fires are better than someone making a living cutting down
trees for
> lumber.
Of course they are. They are one of nature's maintenance measures. "And on
the eighth day, God made lumberjacks." Now, who's the silly ass?
>
> 14. It's not fair that some people get better health care than others, so
> everyone should get poor health care and hard working Americans should pay
for
> it so lazy Americans don't have to.
Another parody of the truth.
>
> 15. successful people cheat and steal.
Some do. Two examples above.
>
>
The Finger
You broke the GOP code.
JimmyD
Edw wrote:
> "JimmyD" <j...@starkiller.org> wrote in message
> news:4042C03E...@starkiller.org...
> > Things You Have to Believe to be a democrat Today
> >
> > 1. Belief in God will destroy the country.
>
> Not so; the imposition of any dogma is unconstitutional.
> "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, nor the
> free exercise thereof."
Then why the big stink about " The Passion of Christ"?
>
>
> >
> > 2. Morals are a bad thing.
>
> Anyone who got through middle school civics knows that morals are not the
> business of government, except in totalitarian and theocratic forms.
So your saying murder should be legal, condemning murder is moral judgment, all
though you guys do believe in killing babies. You just proved #2
>
>
> >
> > 3. Hard working Americans should give their money to lazy Americans.
>
> Michael Eisner and Ken Lay being two shining examples of "hard-working
> Americans."
You just proved # 15
>
>
> >
> > 4. Men who molest boys are heterosexual.
>
> Men who molest boys are pedophiles.
Gay pedophiles.
>
> >
> > 5. You can reason with people who want to kill you.
>
> No-one says this.
Guess you don't pay much attention to your anti American, anti war friends do
you.
>
> >
> > 6. African Americans can not achieve without help.
>
> No-one says this either.
Can you say "affirmative action"?
>
> >
> > 7. The U.N. and world court should have authority over the U.S.
>
> Why not?
You proved my point again, your fun to play with. I guess you just want to give
up your rights to someone you can't even vote in or out, isn't that special.
>
> >
> > 8. We don't really need a military.
>
> A third strawman.
> >
> > 9. We don't need oil.
>
> In 75 years, we had better not.
Capitalism will take care of that.
>
> >
> > 10. Animals have more rights then people do.
>
> PETA, et al. are not associated with the Dem. Party
Wow, could have fooled me!!!
>
> >
> > 11. It's none of the parents business if their thirteen year old daughter
> get an
> > abortion.
>
> Think about that. How does a 13 year old get pregnant, without her parents
> knowing?
I guess your not a parent are you.
>
> >
> > 12. Trees can't be replaced.
>
> Read a book, fool.
> >
> > 13. Forest fires are better than someone making a living cutting down
> trees for
> > lumber.
>
> Of course they are. They are one of nature's maintenance measures. "And on
> the eighth day, God made lumberjacks." Now, who's the silly ass?
Why not harvest the wood instead of letting it burn and killing off endangers
species and creating green house gasses???
>
> >
> > 14. It's not fair that some people get better health care than others, so
> > everyone should get poor health care and hard working Americans should pay
> for
> > it so lazy Americans don't have to.
>
> Another parody of the truth.
Why do hard working Canadians come down here for quality health care.
Can you say trial lawyer.
>
> >
> > 15. successful people cheat and steal.
>
> Some do. Two examples above.
I guess this means in your book they all do, prove my point again. Thanks for
playing.
>
> >
> >
Sid9
Favorite right wing lunatic phrase, "So you're saying...."
See if you can get to understand this.
The writer chose the words that
express his or her opinion.
They do not need you to translate
the words into some warped right
wing view of the world.
So what you're saying a total pile of H.S., hot and steamy
Thomas Trust
"Sid9" <si...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Things You Have to Believe to be a Republican Today:
>
> * Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a
> conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers
> for your recovery.
A lie.
>
> * The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our
> highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.
Spin
>
> * Government should relax regulation of Big Business and Big Money but
> crack down on individuals who use marijuana to relieve the pain of
illness.
Fabrication
>
> * "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers and moving their
> jobs to India.
Outright lie
>
> * A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
> multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
> without regulation.
Unqualified and contradicts other attempted *points* made within even this
post.
>
> * Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary
> Clinton.
Wow, you even lie when it comes to Jesus.
>
> * The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in
> speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
Fabrication.
>
> * Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins unless you someday run for
> governor of California as a Republican.
Liberals, all about intolerance and ignoring the atoning for past
wrongdoings...... when it comes to the opposition......
>
> * If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
Spin
>
> * Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's
> daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a
> bad guy
> when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
More spin.
>
> * A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable
> offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands
> die is
> solid defense policy.
Not based on any facts.
>
> * Government should limit itself to the powers named in the
> Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the
Internet
False premise.
>
> * The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but
> George Bush's driving record is none of our business.
Relevence?
>
> * You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John Ashcroft
> can tell states what local voter initiatives they have a right to adopt.
Spin
>
> * What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but
> what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
Manipulation/spin
>
> * Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade
> with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
>
Sid's ignorance shining through.
Edw
>
>
> Edw wrote:
>
> > "JimmyD" <j...@starkiller.org> wrote in message
> > news:4042C03E...@starkiller.org...
> > > Things You Have to Believe to be a democrat Today
> > >
> > > 1. Belief in God will destroy the country.
> >
> > Not so; the imposition of any dogma is unconstitutional.
> > "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, nor
the
> > free exercise thereof."
>
> Then why the big stink about " The Passion of Christ"?
Who made a stink?
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 2. Morals are a bad thing.
> >
> > Anyone who got through middle school civics knows that morals are not
the
> > business of government, except in totalitarian and theocratic forms.
>
> So your saying murder should be legal, condemning murder is moral
judgment, all
> though you guys do believe in killing babies. You just proved #2
The laws against murder are there to keep civil order ("...secure in their
persons..."). Moral matters are not matters for government. While it is
clear that you need moral guidance, and would welcome it from someone as
morally obtuse as George Bush, adults do not suffer that lack.
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 3. Hard working Americans should give their money to lazy Americans.
> >
> > Michael Eisner and Ken Lay being two shining examples of "hard-working
> > Americans."
>
> You just proved # 15
Got you there, eh?
>
>
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > 4. Men who molest boys are heterosexual.
> >
> > Men who molest boys are pedophiles.
>
> Gay pedophiles.
No pedophiles. Words mean things, they're arbitrary. "Pedophile" means
"child lover."
>
> >
> > >
> > > 5. You can reason with people who want to kill you.
> >
> > No-one says this.
>
> Guess you don't pay much attention to your anti American, anti war friends
do
> you.
Guess you're stupid AND dishonest aren't you?
>
> >
> > >
> > > 6. African Americans can not achieve without help.
> >
> > No-one says this either.
>
> Can you say "affirmative action"?
Yes. But only a fool befuddled with listening to hate radio would conclude
AA is about that.
>
> >
> > >
> > > 7. The U.N. and world court should have authority over the U.S.
> >
> > Why not?
>
> You proved my point again, your fun to play with. I guess you just want to
give
> up your rights to someone you can't even vote in or out, isn't that
special.
The UN would have nothing to say about domestic policies, and little to say
about foreign policy.
You may be the stupidest rightie around.
>
> >
> > >
> > > 8. We don't really need a military.
> >
> > A third strawman.
> > >
> > > 9. We don't need oil.
> >
> > In 75 years, we had better not.
>
> Capitalism will take care of that.
What a goddamn fool.
>
> >
> > >
> > > 10. Animals have more rights then people do.
> >
> > PETA, et al. are not associated with the Dem. Party
>
> Wow, could have fooled me!!!
It doesn't take much to fool a fool.
>
> >
> > >
> > > 11. It's none of the parents business if their thirteen year old
daughter
> > get an
> > > abortion.
> >
> > Think about that. How does a 13 year old get pregnant, without her
parents
> > knowing?
>
> I guess your not a parent are you.
I certainly hope you're not.
>
> >
> > >
> > > 12. Trees can't be replaced.
> >
> > Read a book, fool.
> > >
> > > 13. Forest fires are better than someone making a living cutting down
> > trees for
> > > lumber.
> >
> > Of course they are. They are one of nature's maintenance measures.
"And on
> > the eighth day, God made lumberjacks." Now, who's the silly ass?
>
> Why not harvest the wood instead of letting it burn and killing off
endangers
> species and creating green house gasses???
You really should try to finish middle school.
Marvin Ambler
office, and let's remember he wasn't elected by the American people, he was
appointed by a Republican,Supreme court. He'll never go down in history as
president that was elected, he was appointed...
Tempest
>
> This is the exact truth, This country is worse off now than when Bush got in
> office, and let's remember he wasn't elected by the American people, he was
> appointed by a Republican,Supreme court. He'll never go down in history as
> president that was elected, he was appointed...
There'll be an asterisk by his name in the list of U.S. presidents.
--
"The tyranny of a prince is not so dangerous to the public welfare as
the apathy of a citizen in a democracy."
- Baron de Montesquieu, 1748
derf
> Marvin Ambler wrote:
> >
> > This is the exact truth, This country is worse off now than when Bush
got in
> > office, and let's remember he wasn't elected by the American people, he
was
> > appointed by a Republican,Supreme court. He'll never go down in history
as
> > president that was elected, he was appointed...
I agree with you 100%. After all that this President Bush has done to
correct all the previous problems ( same as Nixon and Reagan ) the filth
just comes out stronger. It is very obvious that this Filth is now probably
at an all time High. America is going to have to wake up and all this
filthy mess in the USA is gonna have to be cleaned up. President Bush is
now the man in charge so therefore it is His job to CLEAN THIS FILTHY MESS
UP. I have a lot of faith and trust in Mr. Bush. Our Republican Presidents
in the past have done a great job and these last four DemoCraps have screwed
everything up. I believe the USA is at a crossroads in time and corrections
had better be made. While the USA has been so busy making corrections
outside the garbage inside has grown to an all time high - I have no doubt
that our internal problem is much bigger than that which meets the eye.