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Re: How Can Scientists Be Trusted When Evidence Shows That Most Of Them Don't Believe In The End Times Or The Second Coming Of Our Lord Jesus Christ?

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Rav1ng rabbit

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Dec 26, 2009, 8:04:32 PM12/26/09
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Please turn off your: personal computer, television, microwave,
photocamera, videorecorder, radio, car, light, heater. Turn in you
pencils, your paper to write letters, and all stuff in the kitchen.

Next you retreat in a distant hut somewhere in the mountains without
electricity or running water, just move there with nothing and go hunt
some local wildlife to stay alive.

Why you may ask, well, all this fancy modern stuff you continuously rely
on can be traced back to these same pesky scientists that discovered
such nasty things as global warming. And what you don't trust or
understand, you don't use or rely on, ok?

G'day,

Q


Claudius Denk wrote:
>
> Those left wing bastards think that they're smarter than us! But we got the
> guns, so we win again. Over educated scientists with their fancy lab coats
> and big diplomas are always trying to tell us what to do.
>
> Republicans have been so successful in driving out of their party
> anyone who endeavors in scientific inquiry that pretty soon there
> won't be anyone left who can distinguish a periodic table from a
> kitchen table.
>
> It is no wonder the Republican throngs showing up to disrupt town hall
> meetings on health care reform are so gullible, willing to believe
> absurd claims like the coming of "death panels."
>
> Their party is nearly devoid of neuroscientists, astrophysicists,
> marine biologists or any other scientific professional who would
> insist on intellectual rigor, objective evidence and sound reasoning
> as the basis for public policy development.
>
> The people left don't have that kind of discipline and don't expect it
> from their leaders.
>
> They are willing to believe anything some right-wing demagogue with a
> cable show or pulpit tells them, no matter how outlandish.
>
> Since the Sonia Sotomayor nomination we've been hearing about the
> GOP's Hispanic deficit.
>
> Only 26 percent of Latino registered voters now say they identify with
> or lean toward the Republican Party.
>
> But that's a full house compared with scientists.
>
> Only 12 percent of scientists in a poll issued last month by the Pew
> Research Center say they are Republican or lean toward the GOP, while
> fully 81 percent of scientists say they are Democrats or lean
> Democratic.
>
> We shouldn't be surprised that people who are open to evidence-based
> thinking have abandoned the Republican Party.
>
> The GOP has proudly adopted the mantle of the "Terri Schiavo, global
> warming shwarming" party with the Bush administration helping cement
> the image by persistently subverting science to serve a religious
> agenda or corporate greed.
>
> But what worries me is not the shrunken relevancy of the GOP, a party
> in which 56 percent of its members oppose funding of embryonic stem
> cell research, 39 percent believe humans have always existed on Earth
> in their present form, and in which only 30 percent say human activity
> is warming the planet.
>
> It is that this nation's future depends upon people who don't think
> that way and the Republican Party is closing the door to them.
>
> Every hope we have to invent our way out of this economic malaise and
> create enough Information Age jobs to maintain a stable and prosperous
> middle class sits on the shoulders of people who understand and
> practice the scientific method.
>
> Every hope we have of advancing human understanding of the physical
> universe and bettering our lives in it, is tied to professionals now
> represented by only one of our nation's two major political parties ?
> while the other party attempts to obstruct them.
>
> Global warming is a prime example.
>
> Earth is under siege by CO2 emissions to a point that the Pentagon is
> warning that our national security is at risk if climate change is not
> arrested.
>
> All Americans and politicians should be united for collective action.
>
> Yet George Bush spent essentially his entire presidency ignoring and
> suppressing scientific concerns.
>
> Even today, with the effects of global warming evident, Republicans in
> Congress are trying to bury the cap-and-trade energy bill, the
> nation's first attempt (albeit not strong enough) to limit greenhouse
> gas emissions.
>
> Their alternative is to offer nothing.
>
> Why are they so blind to the looming crisis?
>
> Because to embrace what scientists are saying about global warming
> would give political liberals a win, something the GOP leadership is
> not wont to do.
>
> Republicans build their political careers disdaining "elitists" with a
> good education, complex charts and empirical data.
>
> They see it to their political advantage to rally people to distrust
> science.
>
> That means our nation is only likely to advance to meet the heady
> scientific challenges of the future, on health and the environment ?
> advancements that translate directly into economic progress and rising
> living standards ? if the Democrats remain in power with substantial
> majorities.
>
> But if the nation's economic situation doesn't turn around soon, a GOP
> resurgence could very well come.
>
> Then scientists will once again be on the defensive against a
> Republican Party that left them behind in favor of the Tea Party
> crowd, the birthers, and the people who shout at town halls that
> government better keep its hands off their Medicare.
>
> Theirs is a world without scientists, and scary doesn't begin to
> describe it.


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Dec 26, 2009, 8:50:08 PM12/26/09
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"Claudius Denk" <claudiu...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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It's just the stupid troll from AIEO

Move on, folks.
There's nothing herer.

Bill Ward

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Dec 26, 2009, 9:12:59 PM12/26/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:04:32 +0100, Rav1ng rabbit wrote:

> Please turn off your: personal computer, television, microwave,
> photocamera, videorecorder, radio, car, light, heater. Turn in you
> pencils, your paper to write letters, and all stuff in the kitchen.
>
> Next you retreat in a distant hut somewhere in the mountains without
> electricity or running water, just move there with nothing and go hunt
> some local wildlife to stay alive.
>
> Why you may ask, well, all this fancy modern stuff you continuously rely
> on can be traced back to these same pesky scientists that discovered
> such nasty things as global warming. And what you don't trust or
> understand, you don't use or rely on, ok?
>
> G'day,
>
> Q

So Q is responding to Scott Nudds. A match made in heaven.

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Bill Ward

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Dec 26, 2009, 11:05:54 PM12/26/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:37:38 +0100, Peter Muehlbauer wrote:

> Bill Ward <bw...@ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:04:32 +0100, Rav1ng rabbit wrote:
>>
>> > Please turn off your: personal computer, television, microwave,
>> > photocamera, videorecorder, radio, car, light, heater. Turn in you
>> > pencils, your paper to write letters, and all stuff in the kitchen.
>> >
>> > Next you retreat in a distant hut somewhere in the mountains without
>> > electricity or running water, just move there with nothing and go
>> > hunt some local wildlife to stay alive.
>> >
>> > Why you may ask, well, all this fancy modern stuff you continuously
>> > rely on can be traced back to these same pesky scientists that
>> > discovered such nasty things as global warming. And what you don't
>> > trust or understand, you don't use or rely on, ok?
>> >
>> > G'day,
>> >
>> > Q
>>
>> So Q is responding to Scott Nudds. A match made in heaven.
>

> Do you eventually know if there is an authority at Canada like the FBI?
> (Only a question for my interest)

Sorry, I don't know, Peter, I live in the US. Maybe the Mounties?

I'm a firm believer in freedom of speech, but Nudds is crossing the line
into credible threats. Legal action may need to be taken before he
completely wigs out and hurts someone. Or gets hurt by some other flake
who takes his threats seriously.

Do you know the details on how to get him TOSed off the net? It seems to
me his last few posts should be sufficient to at least raise a few
eyebrows.

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Lookout

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Dec 27, 2009, 12:21:04 AM12/27/09
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:36:09 -0500, Claudius Denk
<claudiu...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Because 99% of scientists don't believe in fairy tales.

richp

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Dec 27, 2009, 6:59:16 AM12/27/09
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On Dec 26, 4:36 pm, Claudius Denk <claudiusden...@sbcglobal.net>

You really are nutz aren't you

I M @ good guy

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:24:00 AM12/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:37:38 +0100, Peter Muehlbauer
<spamt...@AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote:

>Bill Ward <bw...@ix.REMOVETHISnetcom.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 02:04:32 +0100, Rav1ng rabbit wrote:
>>
>> > Please turn off your: personal computer, television, microwave,
>> > photocamera, videorecorder, radio, car, light, heater. Turn in you
>> > pencils, your paper to write letters, and all stuff in the kitchen.
>> >
>> > Next you retreat in a distant hut somewhere in the mountains without
>> > electricity or running water, just move there with nothing and go hunt
>> > some local wildlife to stay alive.
>> >
>> > Why you may ask, well, all this fancy modern stuff you continuously rely
>> > on can be traced back to these same pesky scientists that discovered
>> > such nasty things as global warming. And what you don't trust or
>> > understand, you don't use or rely on, ok?
>> >
>> > G'day,
>> >
>> > Q
>>
>> So Q is responding to Scott Nudds. A match made in heaven.
>

>Do you eventually know if there is an authority at Canada like the FBI?
>(Only a question for my interest)

You never heard of the Canadian Mounted Police? :-)


Rav1ng rabbit

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:40:01 AM12/27/09
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> Read about what I've written in the posting above where he faked your name.
>

Who says I faked anybodies name?

Q=Q=Q

Q

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I M @ good guy

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Dec 27, 2009, 5:14:09 PM12/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:40:01 +0100, Rav1ng rabbit <rab...@dot.com>
wrote:

Scum Nutts is in the Netherlands?


I M @ good guy

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:46:54 PM12/27/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:08:18 +0100, Peter Muehlbauer
<spamt...@AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote:

>You mean the Mounties?
>I did, but I think they are not the right superiour authority for those
>international insults, or?

Only if it is criminal I suppose.

I like to go to the unix shell where I can
see the raw html code and all headers and send
that info to the appropriate people, I had one
the other day that was really good phishing
but he sent it to the wrong guy, I had to save
the html attachment and convert it to a text
file to see what the crook wanted.

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