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Lauren

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Aug 19, 2008, 7:21:02 AM8/19/08
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Aug 18, 2008 9:40 pm US/Pacific
Dad Must Lose 80 Pounds To Give Kidney To Daughter

SACRAMENTO (CBS13) ? A man's 16-year-old daughter desperately needs a new
kidney, and he is her only match, but before a transplant can take place,
he must lose at least 80 pounds.

At 6'4", 270 pounds, the 40-year-old Navy veteran is trying to change the
way he looks, the way he eats and the way he exercises. Herb Barber used to
be a wrestler, so he knows about intense physical challenges.

"It's one of the few sports that controls your whole life, as far as
fitness goes," Herb said.

Since birth, his daughter Teniya has had complications with her kidney. If
dad wants to give her one of his, doctors say he needs to lose as much as
80 pounds, both for the health of the kidney and for his recovery after
surgery.

"The first 90 days, I'm shooting for 50 pounds," Herb said.

Teniya's kidney function was down to just 20% when she became pregnant last
year. She was told her condition would likely kill either her or the baby,
but she had her daughter anyway. Both survived.

Teniya's kidney function decreased to just 9%. Doctors told her she'll
either need a transplant or dialysis for the rest of her life. She'd prefer
the latter, but Herb is preparing for the former.

"It will be her choice, but it's my choice to get ready if they go the
transplant route," Herb said.

Herb and Teniya are tracking his progress in a blog, "80 pounds of heart."
Herb hasn't been under 200 pounds in ten years.

He's a father of eight, grandfather of two, and says he comes from a big
family. He says his effort to get smaller could ensure that it stays that
way.


Willow Herself

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Aug 19, 2008, 11:50:08 AM8/19/08
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That's ridiculous.. why on earth would a 6'4 man who was a wrestler have to
be under 200 lbs for a surgery?

That's too thin for him...

I'm calling this one bull... I might be wrong, but if I am, some doctors
have lost their mind.

Will~

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The Master

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Aug 19, 2008, 12:15:20 PM8/19/08
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, Willow Herself wrote:

> I'm calling this one bull... I might be wrong, but if I am, some doctors
> have lost their mind.

I'm betting Doctors HAVE lost their minds...

Ragnar

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Aug 19, 2008, 4:01:55 PM8/19/08
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On Aug 19, 11:50 am, "Willow Herself"

<willowki...@somethingkikeseamountains.net> wrote:
> That's ridiculous.. why on earth would a 6'4 man who was a wrestler have to
> be under 200 lbs for a surgery?
>
> That's too thin for him...
>
> I'm calling this one bull... I might be wrong, but if I am, some doctors
> have lost their mind.
>
> Will~
>
> "Lauren" <lau...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>
>
> - Show quoted text -

I don’t think they’ve lost their mind. I just think that some doctors
don’t always know what the right course of action should really be in
all cases, so they wing it. It’s a small wonder why medical errors
before, during and after surgery cost employers an estimated 1.5
billion annually.

http://www.ahrq.gov/news/press/pr2008/surgerrpr.htm

Ragnar

Scott W

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Aug 19, 2008, 4:18:35 PM8/19/08
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The blog says that he needs to be under 235 for the surgery, and then
he says “but to be in great shape he would like to be around 200”.
The blog also says he is starting at 280.

As for how light he needs to be for the surgery, it is not just what a
safe weight is for the operation but what a safe weight is to keep his
one remaining kidney healthy. If he had a kidney removed at 280 there
would be a lot of stress on the remaining kidney. You have to be in
pretty good shape to be allowed to donate a kidney.

Needing to loss weight to donate a kidney is not at all uncommon, and
he would have to loss it afterwards anyway so it is better to do it up
before.

BTW I was 210 when I lost a kidney 11 months ago, I am now at 188 and
still dropping. I figure I need to get to around 170.

Scott

eightylb...@yahoo.com

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Aug 20, 2008, 4:53:24 PM8/20/08
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Let me clarify the weight lose issue here to everyone as I see from a
few posts that it is getting mixed up a bit some how. I am required
to weigh below 235 for the surgery to be schedualed to allow my body
the proper recovery. I my self am going one step further and going
back to my weight when I competed in 2001 and that is 197lbs. where
190 need for surgery came from I dont know. I will be losing 80lbs
all together to bring myself back to the healthy person I was 2001.

Scott W

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Aug 20, 2008, 10:25:27 PM8/20/08
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I think what you are doing is great, and your remaining kidney will
thank you for taking off the weight.

Good luck, I will be checking your blog from time to time to see how
it is going.

Scott

Kaz Kylheku

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Aug 24, 2008, 8:17:25 PM8/24/08
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On 2008-08-19, Willow Herself <willo...@somethingkikeseamountains.net> wrote:
> That's ridiculous.. why on earth would a 6'4 man who was a wrestler have to
> be under 200 lbs for a surgery?
>
> That's too thin for him...

What do you know? As a former wrestler, maybe he has a better idea about
his own body.

The story shows only a headshot. We can only guess about his muscle mass.

Know this: without steroids, a dedicated body builder who is genetically
talented can shoot for a FFMI (fat free BMI) of about 25. In the pre-steroid
era, that's how big the biggest body builders got. It represents a fair
estimate of the limit of what can be realistically achieved with clean diet and
exercise.

For 6'4", a FFMI of 25 corresponds to a lean mass of 204 pounds.

The average male has a FFMI of about 18, which corresponds to 148 pounds to a 6'4" height.

This Herb guy probably isn't a highly talented, dedicated, competitive body
builder. He's an out of shape has-been. Though he probably still has a bit
more than average muscle mass too, I would be suprised if there was more than
168 pounds of it. That's a generous 20 more than the average male. At 168
pounds of lean mass, a 200 pound guy has 16% body fat. That's quite chubby,
with love handles and all. If he can get to 190 pounds without losing any of
the muscle, he's at 11.5%. A lot leaner, but a far cry from ripped.

Also note that the article said ``[he] hasn't been under 200 pounds ten
years''. This suggests that until ten years ago he /was/ in fact under 200
pounds. So 200 pounds perhaps is a realistic body mass for this fellow. If
he's been there before, he can get there again.

Don't you people read?

Lee

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Aug 26, 2008, 7:35:46 AM8/26/08
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, Ragnar <Ragnar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I don’t think they’ve lost their mind. I just think that some doctors
>don’t always know what the right course of action should really be in
>all cases, so they wing it. It’s a small wonder why medical errors
>before, during and after surgery cost employers an estimated 1.5
>billion annually.
>
>http://www.ahrq.gov/news/press/pr2008/surgerrpr.htm

The cost of obesity to employers is much higher (see below). Quit
promoting obesity and tell your fat cunt wife to lose weight , Ragtard.

AAOHN J. 2006 Dec;54(12):515-20.

Changing the work environment to promote wellness: a focus group
study.Gates D, Brehm B, Hutton S, Singler M, Poeppelman A.
College of Nursing, University of Cincinnati, Cincinnati, OH, USA.

It is estimated that employers spend more than 75 billion dollars annually
on obesity-attributable health care. Interventions to reduce or prevent the
risk of obesity are increasingly common at worksites and include health
fairs, weight loss and nutrition classes, and fitness programs. However,
many companies lack the resources to plan and implement these types of
programs. Environmental approaches offer companies a low-cost option. A
community-based participatory research model was used to bring academic
researchers, human resources personnel, and health department educators
together to plan and implement an environmental program aimed at increasing
healthy eating and physical activity at four small manufacturing companies.
The Diffusion of Innovations Theory guided the development of focus group
questions. A focus group study was then conducted to gather information
from employees and managers at these four companies. The questions
identified workplace strategies that would aid in reducing barriers and
developing appropriate communication channels to enhance employee
participation in the program. The researchers identified themes from
manager and employee focus groups regarding the following five
environmental components: signs, walking paths, food changes, educational
strategies, and advisory groups.

Robin King

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Aug 26, 2008, 9:01:12 AM8/26/08
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"Lee" <l...@nomailplease.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, Ragnar <Ragnar...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> The cost of obesity to employers is much higher (see below). Quit
> promoting obesity and tell your fat cunt wife to lose weight ,
Ragtard.

There is the sign of a fear-riddled, hating kind of person -
the accusation of "promoting obesity". What's Lee so terrified of?

> AAOHN J. 2006 Dec;54(12):515-20.
>
>

> It is estimated that employers spend more than 75 billion dollars
annually
> on obesity-attributable health care.

Don't you know that everything that goes wrong with a fat
person is attributed to the fat?

Robin

The Master

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Aug 26, 2008, 10:16:43 AM8/26/08
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Lee wrote:

> It is estimated that employers spend more than 75 billion dollars annually
> on obesity-attributable health care.

$75 billion anually on the healthcare of obese people you mean. Most fat
people have their "early warning signs" brushed off by medical
professionals, while skinny people get early treatments that prevent major
problems. Once it becomes obvious that it's not weight related, it is too
late for the cheep cures. The problem isn't fat people, it's an
incompetent medical system.

> Interventions to reduce or prevent the
> risk of obesity are increasingly common at worksites and include health
> fairs, weight loss and nutrition classes, and fitness programs.

My employer offers a company paid "stop smoking" program. But they don't
offer a company paid "diet" program.

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DB

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Aug 26, 2008, 2:57:35 PM8/26/08
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"Always Learning" <noPubl...@this.time> wrote in

> When did we sign away our individual rights?
>
> Is this some Democrat law designed to be the big brother?
>
> Why are people always trying to tell us what we can do with our own
> bodies?

Wake up man, this is Amerika comrade where the government regulates
everything!!!!!


Scott W

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Aug 29, 2008, 3:05:21 PM8/29/08
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On Aug 26, 6:12 am, Always Learning <noPublicEm...@this.time> wrote:
> If you want to give/donate an organ to your private family then how is
> this anyone's business especially our government?
>
> If wanted to donate a kidney to my son then there shouldn't be any
> requirements or rules that the government has setup. It's not there
> business what I decide to do, it is also no individuals business who I
> donate a kidney too, how I donate it either.

>
> When did we sign away our individual rights?
>
> Is this some Democrat law designed to be the big brother?
>
> Why are people always trying to tell us what we can do with our own
> bodies?
>
> well??
>

It is not the government that is going to tell you that you can't
donate a kidney, it is going to be the tranpant doctors. Do you
believe that the doctors should not have the right to refues to remove
a preson's kidney if they don't belive it is safe?

Scott

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