Lawmakers Consider Special Rights for Homosexuals
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occupations when common sense should be the ultimate criteria. Just as it
would not be discrimination to not hire a blind person to work as a
life-guard at a public beach, it should not be considered illegal to not
hire those with 'sexual issues' to be around children.
http://www.citizenlink.org/CLNews/A000011412.cfm
Lawmakers Consider Special Rights for Homosexuals
The Senate held a hearing on the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA)
this week. ENDA would enshrine special rights for homosexuals in the
workplace, based on sexual orientation and gender identity.
Craig Parshall, senior vice president and general counsel for National
Religious Broadcasters, was the only witness to speak against the bill,
although a number of pro-family groups are campaigning against it.
Throughout the hearing, Parshall heard cries for fundamental fairness and
rights.
"What about the civil rights, the civil opportunities and privileges of
private enterprise," he said, "to conduct its business free of these exotic
new value systems?"
Bill sponsors claim there is a religious exemption in the bill, but Parshall
said it won't protect for-profit Christian organizations.
"They will, as a practical matter, get absolutely no exemption," he said.
"They will be required to hire homosexuals and those with other 'gender
identities' that violate Scripture's mandate."
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J Young
Jvis...@live.com
haiku jones
> Although I do not approve of discrimination in any form, there are certain
> occupations when common sense should be the ultimate criteria.
And although I do not approve of language mavens, there are
certain languages -- English, for example -- in which "criterion"
is ultimately the singular noun form.
(and this response has been more useful, informative,
and entertaining than the original post)
Haiku Jones
JohnN
> Although I do not approve of discrimination in any form, there are certain
> occupations when common sense should be the ultimate criteria. Just as it
> would not be discrimination to not hire a blind person to work as a
> life-guard at a public beach, it should not be considered illegal to not
> hire those with 'sexual issues' to be around children.
So I'm guessing you don't want young heterosexual men teaching
adolescent girls in high school.
JohnN
J
"JohnN" <jnor...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Definitely not in close proximity to the girl's gym locker room or shower
room. That is a great example you offered where common sense, not some
discrimination law, should be the ultimate 'criterion' ( with special thanks
to Haiku Jones for the lesson in proper English )
--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com
Pat Magroyne
> "JohnN" <jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:15fdfeea-19e3-48a8...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Nov 9, 5:14 pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> > > Although I do not approve of discrimination in any form, there are
> > > certain
> > > occupations when common sense should be the ultimate criteria. Just as
> > > it
> > > would not be discrimination to not hire a blind person to work as a
> > > life-guard at a public beach, it should not be considered illegal to not
> > > hire those with 'sexual issues' to be around children.
>
> > So I'm guessing you don't want young heterosexual men teaching
> > adolescent girls in high school.
>
> Definitely not in close proximity to the girl's gym locker room or shower
> room.
Why's that, J? Are girls only horny when they're naked or getting
dressed? Or do you fear for the man who is "unable" to control
himself?
> That is a great example you offered where common sense, not some
> discrimination law, should be the ultimate 'criterion' ( with special thanks
> to Haiku Jones for the lesson in proper English )
Haiku kicked the shit out of any credibility your source had, J,
correctly implying that the writer is an idiot. Just thought you
should know. Since it's your source.
Oh, BTW: Where are the "SPECIAL" rights? What exactly ARE those
special rights? Cuz I'm gay, and if there are special rights being
doled out, I want to be sure to partake!
Syd M.
Lie in sentence one.
No need to continue.
PDW
Syd M.
So, you, too, think guys have so little discipline that any glimpse of
naked female flesh will send them into a rapine frenzy, eh?
Sorry, Junkie Young, not all guys are like you.
PDW
Syd M.
You know, 'special rights,' like the right not to be harrassed. Since
the christbots are the only ones demanding 'special rights,' there's
no need to worry.
PDW
Syd M.
So, you, too, think guys have so little discipline that any glimpse of
Syd M.
Lie in sentence one.
Ray Fischer
>Although I do not approve of discrimination in any form,
Because you nazi turds really believe that women should be kept in the
kitchen, gays really are immoral, blacks really are inferior, all
religions except yours are evil.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
J
"Pat Magroyne" <patma...@null.net> wrote in message
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>
> Why's that, J? Are girls only horny when they're naked or getting
> dressed? Or do you fear for the man who is "unable" to control
> himself?
You mean that you would have no problem with a young, heterosexual male
school teacher being around your teenage daughter while she was showering
and getting dressed? Even if he controls his sexual urges, you'd still be
comfortable knowing he was leering at her? And you call me sick?
> > That is a great example you offered where common sense, not some
> > discrimination law, should be the ultimate 'criterion' ( with special
> > thanks
> > to Haiku Jones for the lesson in proper English )
>
> Haiku kicked the shit out of any credibility your source had, J,
> correctly implying that the writer is an idiot. Just thought you
> should know. Since it's your source.
Are you that stupid? The *only* point haiku made was to correct my usage of
the word 'criteria'. The source of the article was never addressed.
--
J Young
Jvis...@live.com
Lady Veteran
Why do men not get any credit for self control? Why are women
conditioned to think that they have none?
I happen to think that it matters not what a person likes in a sexual
capacity as long as they practice proper control in public.
LV
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extremeone
>
> Why do men not get any credit for self control? Why are women
> conditioned to think that they have none?
>
> I happen to think that it matters not what a person likes in a sexual
> capacity as long as they practice proper control in public.
>
>
> LV
nobody gives a flyin fuck about what you think you stupid cunt
Lady Veteran
>On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:39:33 -0600, Lady Veteran <arm...@bigfoot.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:23:03 -0800 (PST), "Syd M."
>><pdwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Nov 9, 6:49�pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>>> "JohnN" <jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:15fdfeea-19e3-48a8...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>> > On Nov 9, 5:14 pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> Definitely not in close proximity to the girl's gym locker room or shower
>>>> room. That is a great example you offered where common sense, not some
>>>> discrimination law, should be the ultimate 'criterion' ( with special thanks
>>>> to Haiku Jones for the lesson in proper English )
>>>>
>>>
>>>So, you, too, think guys have so little discipline that any glimpse of
>>>naked female flesh will send them into a rapine frenzy, eh?
>>>Sorry, Junkie Young, not all guys are like you.
>>>
>>>PDW
>>
>>Why do men not get any credit for self control? Why are women
>>conditioned to think that they have none?
>>
>>I happen to think that it matters not what a person likes in a sexual
>>capacity as long as they practice proper control in public.
>>
>>
>>LV
>>
>
>How do you view the practice of gay men hanging out in and around the
>restrooms in the city park?
>
>Alex
I didn't know that they did that but since you are familiar with the
practice, please educate us all.
LV
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."
---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones
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"Some people are only alive because it is
illegal to kill them."
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How does your idiocy measure up?
My Blog http://ladyveteranslog.blogspot.com
haiku jones
> Sorry, Junkie Young, not all guys are like you.
Not so fast...I think that `J' may actually be on to something
here. Hey, when he's right, he's right.
Putting his undeniable insights into practice, we should
ensure that only gay men are allowed to teach school-age
girls, and only lesbians will be allowed to teach young
boys.
Do it for the children.
Haiku Jones
>
> PDW
haiku jones
> "Pat Magroyne" <patmagro...@null.net> wrote in message
An oversight since addressed. In fact, in that later post, I
suggest that we act on some of your insights, using
them to formulate a more sane social policy.
Haiku Jones
>
> --
> J Young
> Jvisi...@live.com
Lady Veteran
<ma...@mployment.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:05:32 -0500, extremeone <der...@gnaa.us>
>wrote:
>
>>Lady Veteran wrote:
>>
>>nobody gives a flyin fuck about what you think you stupid cunt
>
>Please take into consideration that Blobbi Black Fucker (AKA LV) is
>now 53 years old and is suffering from Mental Pause.
>
>Mary Ann
Please take into consideration that you don't even know what female
genitalia look like, Pinocchio.
Come into the light-COWARD.
LV
"I rode a tank and held a general's rank
When the blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank."
---Sympathy for the Devil-The Rolling Stones
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illegal to kill them."
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Liberal Parasites
6c6590...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>
So what? The subject got it right. What the Democrats are
doing is utterly despicable. Every single one of them should be
taken out and horsewhipped within an inch of their worthless
lives.
Pat Magroyne
> "Pat Magroyne" <patmagro...@null.net> wrote in message
>
> news:f17dce52-b0e3-4db8...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Why's that, J? Are girls only horny when they're naked or getting
> > dressed? Or do you fear for the man who is "unable" to control
> > himself?
>
> You mean that you would have no problem with a young, heterosexual male
> school teacher being around your teenage daughter while she was showering
> and getting dressed?
Why are you answering a question with a question?
Which of the parties do you not trust? The horny teenage girl, or the
horny heterosexual male? Are straight men REALLY so weak that they
can't keep their enormous manly cocks in their pants around teenage
girls?
> Even if he controls his sexual urges,
LOL!!!!!!!!!!! "If"?? The poor straight man, being tempted and all
by a teenage girl. LOL!!!!!!!!
> you'd still be
> comfortable knowing he was leering at her? And you call me sick?
Well, YOU'RE the one who has this locker-room fantasy involving a
teenage girl and an older het male. That ain't MY fantasy, J.
Ya perv! LOL!!
Pat Magroyne
That really is the only acceptable way, I think, and J would have to
agree.
> Do it for the children.
Well, of course.
Uncle Vic
> Although I do not approve of discrimination in any form, there are
> certain occupations when common sense should be the ultimate criteria.
> Just as it would not be discrimination to not hire a blind person to
> work as a life-guard at a public beach, it should not be considered
> illegal to not hire those with 'sexual issues' to be around children.
As usual, a strawman is your spokesperson.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs.
Liberal Parasites
3ea3af...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com>
The Democraps in Congress just gave your degenerate asses a
pedophile protectiona act, while holding the lives of American
soldiers hostage over a defense spending bill. That was one of
the dirtiest things I've ever seen a Congress do. How
appropriate that it was for the benefit of sodomites and child
molesters.
Syd
Damn. Looks like Google had a hickup.
Sorry, guys.
PDW
Syd
>
> news:f17dce52-b0e3-4db8...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Why's that, J? Are girls only horny when they're naked or getting
> > dressed? Or do you fear for the man who is "unable" to control
> > himself?
>
> You mean that you would have no problem with a young, heterosexual male
> school teacher being around your teenage daughter while she was showering
> and getting dressed? Even if he controls his sexual urges, you'd still be
> comfortable knowing he was leering at her? And you call me sick?
>
Yes, Junkie, you are sick.
Sick with hatred for people who are not like you.
> > > That is a great example you offered where common sense, not some
> > > discrimination law, should be the ultimate 'criterion' ( with special
> > > thanks
> > > to Haiku Jones for the lesson in proper English )
>
> > Haiku kicked the shit out of any credibility your source had, J,
> > correctly implying that the writer is an idiot. Just thought you
> > should know. Since it's your source.
>
> Are you that stupid?
No, but you are.
PDW
Syd
I dunno... Remember, Junkie thinks that only gay people are
pedophiles. He might think that this is a 'Fox guarding the hen house'
scenario.
PDW
Syd
> In article <b52ecb84-caa4-4024-8431-
> 6c65907c9...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>
>
> "Syd M." <pdwrigh...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 9, 5:14 pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> > > Although I do not approve of discrimination in any form,
>
> > Lie in sentence one.
> > No need to continue.
>
> > PDW
>
> So what? The subject got it right. What the Democrats are
> doing is utterly despicable. Every single one of them should be
> taken out and horsewhipped within an inch of their worthless
> lives.
Thank for that touch of conservationist melodrama.
PDW
juanjo
>
> How do you view the practice of gay men hanging out in and around the
> restrooms in the city park?
>
How long have you been doing that and why do you think the rest of us
would approve of it?
Ray Fischer
>In article <b52ecb84-caa4-4024-8431-
>6c6590...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>
>"Syd M." <pdwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Nov 9, 5:14�pm, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
>> > Although I do not approve of discrimination in any form,
>>
>> Lie in sentence one.
>> No need to continue.
>>
>> PDW
>
>So what? The subject got it right.
Or you're a bigot who thinks that equal rights are special.
--
Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Snowbird
234d64...@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com>
haiku jones <575j...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Nov 9, 9:32嚙緘m, "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote:
> > "Pat Magroyne" <patmagro...@null.net> wrote in message
> >
> > news:f17dce52-b0e3-4db8...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > dressed? 嚙瞌r do you fear for the man who is "unable" to control
> > > himself?
> >
> > You mean that you would have no problem with a young, heterosexual male
> > school teacher being around your teenage daughter while she was showering
> > and getting dressed? Even if he controls his sexual urges, you'd still be
> > comfortable knowing he was leering at her? And you call me sick?
> >
> > > > That is a great example you offered where common sense, not some
> > > > discrimination law, should be the ultimate 'criterion' ( with special
> > > > thanks
> > > > to Haiku Jones for the lesson in proper English )
> >
> > > Haiku kicked the shit out of any credibility your source had, J,
> > > should know. 嚙磅ince it's your source.
> >
> > Are you that stupid? The *only* point haiku made was to correct my usage
> of
> > the word 'criteria'. The source of the article was never addressed.
>
> An oversight since addressed. In fact, in that later post, I
> suggest that we act on some of your insights, using
> them to formulate a more sane social policy.
>
>
> Haiku Jones
Good idea. The best solution is simply to remove the annoying
problem. Give the fags their own island paradise out in the
Pacific free of all encumberments. They can live there in
peace, and those who do not wish to move, can have their choice
of ceasing homosexual activity, since it is a personal choice,
or summary execution. That's a very fair and generous solution.
>
> >
> > --
> > J Young
> > Jvisi...@live.com
extremeone
nothing of relevance
>>>
>> How do you view the practice of gay men hanging out in and around the
>> restrooms in the city park?
>>
>> Alex
>
> I didn't know that they did that but since you are familiar with the
> practice, please educate us all.
>
> LV
the dumpster you sleep in.
Lady Veteran
wrote:
I think that your bigotry is far more dangerous that anything a gay
person would or could do. No matter what sexual situation they could
dream is never as dangerous as a Nazi running loose that advocates a
form of eugenics.
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Fags are like fat people, unacceptable drains on the coffers of
society.
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> "JohnN" <jnorri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:15fdfeea-19e3-48a8...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > certain
> > > occupations when common sense should be the ultimate criteria. Just as
> > > it
> > > would not be discrimination to not hire a blind person to work as a
> > > life-guard at a public beach, it should not be considered illegal to not
> > > hire those with 'sexual issues' to be around children.
>
> > So I'm guessing you don't want young heterosexual men teaching
> > adolescent girls in high school.
>
> Definitely not in close proximity to the girl's gym locker room or shower
> discrimination law, should be the ultimate 'criterion' ( with special thanks
> to Haiku Jones for the lesson in proper English )
To bad for you, but high school gym classes are co-ed and a male coach
is as likely to be teaching as is a female.
JohnN
juanjo
5 men charged with sex crimes against children
By BILL DRAPER and HEATHER HOLLINGSWORTH (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
November 11, 2009 9:25 PM EST
LEXINGTON, Mo. - Authorities on Wednesday searched a rural property in
western Missouri for bodies and buried glass jars containing notes
written more than 15 years ago by children who may have documented
sexual abuse by five members of their own family.
Lafayette County Sheriff Kerrick Alumbaugh pleaded for the public's
help, saying investigators "believe that there are other victims out
there, and we believe people in the public can give us more
information."
Alumbaugh said authorities believe there may be bodies buried on the
property once owned by two of the five family members arrested
Tuesday. He refused to say to whom any of the bodies would have
belonged. The property and a nearby home is currently owned by a man
unrelated to the case who is cooperating with authorities.
Three of the five men arrested are lay ministers in the Community of
Christ church whose licenses have been suspended, church spokeswoman
Linda L. Booth said.
The five are charged with several felonies, including forcible sodomy,
rape with a child younger than 12 and use of a child in a sexual
performance. The allegations, which include bestiality, forcing
children into fake marriages with relatives and making an 11-year-old
have an abortion, date from 1988 to 1995.
Cpl. Bill Lowe of the Missouri State Highway Patrol said a 26-year-old
woman came forward to investigators in mid-August with the
allegations. A probable cause statement released by the Lafayette
County prosecutor's office says five other siblings of the woman have
accused all five men of abuse, but it's unclear whether all the
siblings were claiming to be victims.
Lowe said the woman told investigators that she and her siblings had
buried glass jars around the property that were filled with messages
"about what was happening to them" when they were younger. The woman
said she had "suppressed many of the memories of abuse perpetrated on
her" and her siblings, according to the probable cause statement.
Sgt. Collin Stosberg of the highway patrol said the adults told the
children to write down their bad memories.
"That was what they were told. Write these memories down, put them in
a jar and bury it and the memories would go away," Stosberg said. "It
was a way for them to cope."
The probable cause statement identifies the relationship between the
siblings and the suspects. The Associated Press, however, is not
revealing that relationship to avoid identifying the alleged victims
of sexual assault.
The woman who came forward also claimed some of the men forced her to
have sex with a dog and to watch as her brother was abused.
"She became pregnant and was made to have an abortion at age 11 1/2.
She doesn't remember any sexual abuse after that date," the probable
cause statement said.
The Lafayette County Sheriff's Department, the Rural Missouri Major
Case Squad and the Highway Patrol were investigating, with the help of
the Western Missouri Cyber Crimes Task Force.
A small excavator could be seen Wednesday moving across the property
outside Bates City, which is about 30 miles east of Kansas City. Two
ambulances were parked nearby, and crews were searching a creek with
metal detectors.
"There has been an indication that there are body or bodies in
numerous locations," Alumbaugh said.
The search was halted at sunset and was to resume in the morning.
The suspects were identified as Burrell Edward Mohler Sr., 77, of
Independence, and his sons, Burrell Edward Mohler Jr., 53, also of
Independence; Jared Leroy Mohler, 48, of Columbia; Roland Neil Mohler,
47, of Bates City; and David A. Mohler, 52, of Lamoni, Iowa.
All five were being held in the Lafayette County jail on cash bonds
ranging from $30,000 to $75,000. It was not immediately clear if they
had attorneys.
Police in Columbia seized a computer and discs from Jared Mohler's
home on Tuesday, police spokeswoman Jessie Haden said. Jared Mohler is
a database administrator at Carfax, a company that provides vehicle
history reports to prospective buyers, a co-worker said. He was
arrested at work.
David Mohler, who has worked for Graceland University in Lamoni, Iowa,
for 27 years, was arrested on its Independence campus.
Details on the arrests of the other three suspects were not
immediately available.
University President John Sellars said David Mohler periodically
traveled to Independence to work on Graceland's phone systems there.
He described David Mohler as "a very nice person who got along well
with his colleagues."
Sellars said David Mohler and his wife have grown children, but he did
not know their ages or where they lived.
Deborah Burris, who has lived across the street from Burrell Mohler
Sr. for several years, described the suspect as a friendly, helpful
neighbor.
Burris said she occasionally saw Burrell Mohler Sr. walking around the
neighborhood but he had appeared frail lately. She said Mohler's house
has an apartment, and there had been "quite a bit of activity there at
different times."
"I had thought maybe someone was moving in or out of there," Burris
said.
Booth, the church spokeswoman, said none of the Mohlers served in
leadership roles in the congregations they attended "nor did they
serve as volunteer youth workers, teach children or youth church
school, or work with children or youth."
"The church takes seriously the allegations that have been made and
suspended the priesthood licenses of three lay ministers: Burrell
Mohler Sr., David Mohler and Jared Mohler," the church said in a
statement.
Booth said one of the men, whom she refused to identify, had been
registered to work with children but that license has been terminated.
The Community of Christ, headquartered in Independence, split from The
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in 1860 and was known as
the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints until
2001. It has about 250,000 members worldwide.