Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
J
Bad news for Patrick, good news for Dale.
http://www.newsmax.com/health/chubby_people_live/2009/06/19/227022.html
Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
Health experts have long warned of the risk of obesity, but a new
Japanese study warns that being very skinny is even more dangerous, and that
slightly chubby people live longer.
People who are a little overweight at age 40 live six to seven years
longer than very thin people, whose average life expectancy was shorter by
some five years than that of obese people, the study found.
"We found skinny people run the highest risk," said Shinichi Kuriyama,
an associate professor at Tohoku University's Graduate School of Medicine
who worked on the long-term study of middle-aged and elderly people.
"We had expected thin people would show the shortest life expectancy
but didn't expect the difference to be this large," he told AFP by
telephone.
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Socrates
Adam A. Wanderer
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> Bad news for Patrick, good news for Dale.
>
> http://www.newsmax.com/health/chubby_people_live/2009/06/19/227022.html
their medical advice.
LC
Drud-addled chubster "J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
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> Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
That's nice.
Now, have another cheeseburger with a side of meth, J<unkie>.
Anthony Allende
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jaypee65
> Bad news for Patrick, good news for Dale.
Does this have anything to do with atheism and abortion or were just
trolling?
Larry
> Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
YOU SKINNY BASTARDS, LISTEN UP!
MEET ME AT THE BUFFET!
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> "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote innews:2tmg32....@news.alt.net:
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> > Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
>
> YOU SKINNY BASTARDS, LISTEN UP!
>
> MEET ME AT THE BUFFET!
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> Larry
>
> If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something,
> is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him?
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> If a man goes way out into the woods all alone and says something,
> is it still wrong, even though no woman hears him?
It's not against the law if the cops don't catch you...
Christ'sCondom
It's largely because fat people are harder to kidnap.
miguel
You've been to the Robin King School of Advanced Scientific Thought.
The Chief Instigator
> Bad news for Patrick, good news for Dale.
> http://www.newsmax.com/health/chubby_people_live/2009/06/19/227022.html
> Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
> Health experts have long warned of the risk of obesity, but a new
>Japanese study warns that being very skinny is even more dangerous, and that
>slightly chubby people live longer.
> People who are a little overweight at age 40 live six to seven years
>longer than very thin people, whose average life expectancy was shorter by
>some five years than that of obese people, the study found.
> "We found skinny people run the highest risk," said Shinichi Kuriyama,
>an associate professor at Tohoku University's Graduate School of Medicine
>who worked on the long-term study of middle-aged and elderly people.
> "We had expected thin people would show the shortest life expectancy
>but didn't expect the difference to be this large," he told AFP by
>telephone.
I'm not all that tall - a meter and 85 - but I'm right where I should be,
right around 78 kilos. I don't need to be bigger than that, as it's
midsummer here. The high today at IAH was 37�, and there will be more than
a few of those days (or hotter) in the next fifteen weeks or so - and we're
that much closer to the Gulf than the weather station at that airport.
Meanwhile, as usual, you cherry-pick your "sources" whenever they support
your fantasy of the moment. That's why you're target practice.
--
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www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Manitoba 3, Houston 1 (May 25: Moose advance, 4-2)
NEXT GAME: The 2009-10 opener in October, TBA
The Chief Instigator
>On Tue, 24 Jun 2009, The Chief Instigator wrote:
>> I'm not all that tall - a meter and 85 - but I'm right where I should be,
>> right around 78 kilos. I don't need to be bigger than that, as it's
>You're right, I have a good 10 cm on you and about 12 kg larger.
If you could move fast enough, you could be a decent football goalie for FC
Dallas. ;-)
Robin King
jenius
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> news:2tmg32....@news.alt.net...
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>
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> > Bad news for Patrick, good news for Dale.
>
> >http://www.newsmax.com/health/chubby_people_live/2009/06/19/227022.html
>
> > Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
>
> > Health experts have long warned of the risk of obesity, but a new
> > Japanese study warns that being very skinny is even more dangerous, and
> > that slightly chubby people live longer.
>
> > People who are a little overweight at age 40 live six to seven years
> > longer than very thin people, whose average life expectancy was shorter by
> > some five years than that of obese people, the study found.
>
> > "We found skinny people run the highest risk," said Shinichi
> > Kuriyama, an associate professor at Tohoku University's Graduate School of
> > Medicine who worked on the long-term study of middle-aged and elderly
> > people.
>
> > "We had expected thin people would show the shortest life expectancy
> > but didn't expect the difference to be this large," he told AFP by
> > telephone.
>
> > --
> > J Young
>
> > "When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." -
>
> - Show quoted text -
how is this relevant to the current subject. please use the political
forum you idiot. j
Jimbo
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It's relevant to show that NEWSMAX Articles, which the original post
in this thread was taken, are unreliable, at best. I tend to agree.
Jimbo
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It's relevant to show that NEWSMAX Articles, which the original post
in this thread was taken, are unreliable, at best. I tend to agree.
Although, I suppose that even a broken and stopped clock can be
correct twice a day.
Ragnar
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Adam A. Wanderer wrote:
> > "J" <Jvisi...@live.com> wrote in message
>
Well that one more reason not to eat tofu.
Ragnar
Greg G.
> Bad news for Patrick, good news for Dale.
>
> http://www.newsmax.com/health/chubby_people_live/2009/06/19/227022.html
>
> Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
>
immortal!
J
"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
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> On 2009-06-24, John Mayson <jo...@mayson.us> wrote:
>>On Tue, 24 Jun 2009, The Chief Instigator wrote:
>
>>> I'm not all that tall - a meter and 85 - but I'm right where I should
>>> be,
>>> right around 78 kilos. I don't need to be bigger than that, as it's
>
>>You're right, I have a good 10 cm on you and about 12 kg larger.
>
> If you could move fast enough, you could be a decent football goalie for
> FC
> Dallas. ;-)
>
Using that type of analogy, Dale would make a great center for the NFL's
Dallas Cowboys.
Anthony Allende
"jenius" <jocelyn....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yes because pointing out that newsmax is an unreliable source has nothing to
do with the fact that the article is from... newsmax.
Whehn you hit the buffet today, have some extra fatty pork chops. And choke
on them, fatfuck.
LC
Especially fat between the ears, J" <Jvis...@live.com> wrote in message
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> "The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
> news:slrnh43fc0....@eris.io.com...
> Using that type of analogy, Dale would make a great center for the NFL's
> Dallas Cowboys.
Rhetorical question of the day: How can it be that a coward like our pet
troll J<unkie> can spend his life running away and yet still be a corpulent
pustule?
Don Martin
They just don't get laid as often.
Anthony Allende
"Don Martin" <drdon...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
>
> They just don't get laid as often.
You mean at all
>
george
Ragnar
> > Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
>
> They just don't get laid as often.
You are correct, skinny people especially skinny women don’t get laid
nearly as often.
Ragnar
Anthony Allende
"Ragnar" <rapier...@live.com> wrote in message
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Ragnar
All this proves is that fat women will fuck anything as long as it has a
dick
Overweight women may not receive information on healthy sexual activity due
to stigmas
Ragnar
> "Ragnar" <rapierfen...@live.com> wrote in message
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> news:f94d436b-de68-4844...@o36g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 24, 2:51 pm, Don Martin <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
>
> > They just don't get laid as often.
>
> You are correct, skinny people especially skinny women don’t get laid
> nearly as often.
>
>
> http://media.barometer.orst.edu/media/storage/paper854/news/2008/11/0...
>
> Ragnar
>
> All this proves is that fat women will fuck anything as long as it has a
> dick
> Overweight women may not receive information on healthy sexual activity due
> to stigmas
If you bothered to read the article in “Psychology Today” it concluded
that despite the fact that guys claim to not like fat chicks they are
still saying yes to them in droves. Don’t try and church up the fact
that half the guys out there are hypocritical sheep hiding behind
popular opinion and stereotypes.
And don’t use the argument any “port in the storm” or “any hole will
do” because most men are visual creatures and if the visual doesn’t
match the desire it doesn’t happen.
Ragnar
The Chief Instigator
>"The Chief Instigator" <pat...@io.com> wrote in message
>news:slrnh43fc0....@eris.io.com...
>> On 2009-06-24, John Mayson <jo...@mayson.us> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 24 Jun 2009, The Chief Instigator wrote:
>>
>>>> I'm not all that tall - a meter and 85 - but I'm right where I should
>>>> be,
>>>> right around 78 kilos. I don't need to be bigger than that, as it's
>>
>>>You're right, I have a good 10 cm on you and about 12 kg larger.
>>
>> If you could move fast enough, you could be a decent football goalie for
>> FC Dallas. ;-)
>Using that type of analogy, Dale would make a great center for the NFL's
>Dallas Cowboys.
Too bad she has better things to do, like being a grandmother of three,
which would take precedence over being a goalie for the Rapid City Rush.
Anthony Allende
On Jun 24, 4:27 pm, "Anthony Allende" <alle...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> "Ragnar" <rapierfen...@live.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f94d436b-de68-4844...@o36g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 24, 2:51 pm, Don Martin <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
>
> > They just don't get laid as often.
>
> You are correct, skinny people especially skinny women don�t get laid
> nearly as often.
>
> http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/200...
>
> http://media.barometer.orst.edu/media/storage/paper854/news/2008/11/0...
>
> Ragnar
>
> All this proves is that fat women will fuck anything as long as it has a
> dick
> Overweight women may not receive information on healthy sexual activity
> due
> to stigmas
>If you bothered to read the article in �Psychology Today� it concluded
>that despite the fact that guys claim to not like fat chicks they are
>still saying yes to them in droves.
LOL it's called desperation. Don't kid yourself. Men desire women with nice
physiques when they're growing up. Fat women in porn is just a freak show
fetish. It's not what men desire. The fact that some losers are willing to
fuck cows says nothing about what they really want. It's what they can get.
Wildhare
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Not only are you in denial but you can’t seem to follow directions as
well. You were told not to use that argument because it is basically
bullshit and yet you conveniently snipped that part of Ragnuts post
and pressed on with that bogus excuse.
So, how much fat fetish porn are you familiar with?
W.
Fred
> On Jun 24, 2:51�pm, Don Martin <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > Chubby People Live Longer than Skinny People
> >
> > They just don't get laid as often.
>
> You are correct, skinny people especially skinny women don�t get laid
> nearly as often.
>
> http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/2008
> 11/the-power-female-choice-fat-chicks-get-laid-more
First off, there is no measure of the quality of sexual partner,
whether it be looks or otherwise.
This statement is very telling:
"Studies of mate preference throughout the world overwhelmingly show
that men prefer to mate with women with low waist-to-hip ratios in the
normal weight range. Men don�t like women who are underweight, and men
certainly don�t like women who are overweight. So overweight and obese
women could not possibly have as much sex as normal-weight women, let
alone more sex, if men decide when and with whom to have sex. Most men
would simply not choose overweight and obese women as their preferred
sexual partners. Overweight and obese women can have more sex than
normal-weight women only if women decide when and with whom to have
sex, and men have little say in the matter."
In other words, men won't have sex with fat chicks unless the fat
chicks proposition them.
How many how there fat chicks are a victim of hogging (
http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/big-game-hunters/Content?oid=1484039
)?
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>
>Not only are you in denial but you can�t seem to follow directions as
>well. You were told not to use that argument because it is basically
>bullshit and yet you conveniently snipped that part of Ragnuts post
>and pressed on with that bogus excuse.
>
>So, how much fat fetish porn are you familiar with?
Wildhare the sockpuppeteer is back! Why don't you create a sockpuppet to
agree with this fine post?
Ragnar
argument. Attraction studies never indicate physical size of the
woman’s hips or waist and only mention that the ideal female figure
should have a waist around 70% of the hip size or slightly larger. To
be honest that covers a lot of ground and is a sweeping
generalization. Even an obese woman with 54” hips and a 40” waist
falls within the confines of those criteria.
“In general, a range of 0.67 to 1.18 in females is attractive to
men”.
http://www.livescience.com/health/060213_attraction_rules.html
You are purposely forgetting the very important visual aspect of
this and that most guys need visual stimulation to be attracted enough
to a woman to want to have sex with her. It is no coincidence that
experts in human attraction have said that men have sex with their
eyes. In other words men are attracted by the physical appearance of a
possible partner and this generally happens within the first 10
seconds of the encounter. So-called casual sex between a man and a
women is based entirely on lust and lust my friend is based entirely
on physical attraction. If it were true that most guys find fat women
so utterly repulsive, as most trolls here have suggested, then
logically sex for them should not be an option and this would be the
case regardless of who does the propositioning.
Look at it this way, if all these guys having sex with fatties are so
repulsed buy them, then how are they achieving an erection let alone
orgasm. If their need was so great wouldn’t they be better off
sticking it into a knot hole in a fence or just jerking off? To your
way of thinking it would be much less painful, more enjoyable and less
embarrassing. But the reality of the situation is they are not doing
any of those things and are choosing to have sex with an object that
you would claim is so repulsive to them that they are sickened by the
mere sight of them. To a rational person this is laughable at best.
Either you’ve never propositioned by a woman who is not typically your
type or you are completely full of shit. Your arguments are weak and
nothing but a smoke and mirrors to cover the physical truth of what
attracts a man to a women.
As for the dubious activity know as “hogging” it is if at all practice
by a select few immature, juvenile, assholes that wouldn’t know how to
treat a women properly even if she fell out of the sky landed on his
face and started to wiggle. A decent individual would find it nothing
to be proud of and using it as a point of argument indicates that you
are actually morally corrupt enough to believe that many guys think
that way. All in all it should be an embarrassment to you.
Ragnar
Jimbo
> "Don Martin" <drdonmar...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I hear that there are quite a number of "Chubby Chasers" out there
though. I wouldn't say that they never get laid.
Anthony Allende
"Wildhare" <themouthof...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Follow directions? LOL. If you followed directions, you wouldn't be a fat
fuck. Now go eat a few Big Macs and watch the Biggest Loser.
>So, how much fat fetish porn are you familiar with?
I've seen the one where you were anally raped by a horse.
Jimbo
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:31:13 -0700 (PDT), Ragnar
> persuasion than the well proportioned ones who are in great demand.
>
I bow to your obvious experience in this regard. :D
Robin King
news:258745h5r4c5fhuuk...@4ax.com...
> The very obese woman will take their panties down with far less
> persuasion than the well proportioned ones who are in great demand.
>
It's amazing to see the way "fat women get laid more" being
spun in as negative a way as possible.
And what have proportions got to do with it? I've seen fat
women with excellent bust-to-waist-to-hip proportions, and skinny
women who are more or less built straight up and down. I'm just
saying there's quite a variety of builds among fat and thin people.
Robin
Ragnar
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:31:13 -0700 (PDT), Ragnar
>
>
>
>
>
> <rapierfen...@live.com> wrote:
> >repulsed buy them, then how are they achieving an erection let alone
> >orgasm. If their need was so great wouldn’t they be better off
> >sticking it into a knot hole in a fence or just jerking off? To your
> >way of thinking it would be much less painful, more enjoyable and less
> >embarrassing. But the reality of the situation is they are not doing
> >any of those things and are choosing to have sex with an object that
> >you would claim is so repulsive to them that they are sickened by the
> >mere sight of them. To a rational person this is laughable at best.
>
> >Either you’ve never propositioned by a woman who is not typically your
> >type or you are completely full of shit. Your arguments are weak and
> >nothing but a smoke and mirrors to cover the physical truth of what
> >attracts a man to a women.
>
> >As for the dubious activity know as “hogging” it is if at all practice
> >by a select few immature, juvenile, assholes that wouldn’t know how to
> >treat a women properly even if she fell out of the sky landed on his
> >face and started to wiggle. A decent individual would find it nothing
> >to be proud of and using it as a point of argument indicates that you
> >are actually morally corrupt enough to believe that many guys think
> >that way. All in all it should be an embarrassment to you.
>
> >Ragnar
>
> behavior. People talk about it hard to stop smoking, or the addicts
> urge for drugs is compelling.
>
We are not talking about sexual addiction. Even if we were those
afflicted with such an addiction can be and most times are more
discerning.
> Well, the sex drive has a lot in common with these drives especially
> with men. If a man is not an attractive person it may well be
> impossible for him to engage in sex with the women he would most
> prefer. That doesn't mean he will not have sex. He may get a big fat
> obese woman to get in bed with him and then he has mental images of
> the 5ft 3in 130 pounder of his dreams while he has sex with the 5ft
> 3in 275 pounder.
>
For most people when you are repulsed by someone or something
adjusting the mental image can only go so far. Most people can’t
perform sexually under those circumstances the idea that the vast
majority of guys are just holding their noses and shutting their eyes
in favor of a day dream is ludicrous. I’m not saying that all guys
like fat chicks; I’m just alluding to the apparent fact that many are
not as adverse to them as one might think.
> If the women he is sitting beside in Pete's Bar and Grill has not
> bathed lately and he has not been laid lately and he has been drinking
> recently her avoidance of the bath tub is not a factor.
>
So alcohol inhibits the olfactory senses especially when you have a
hard on? Rotten meat doesn’t smell like rotten meat when you have wood
and are half in the bag????? Sounds like more bullshit to me. Maybe
you wouldn’t mind dipping your wick into a smelly cesspool after a few
beers but most guys I know wouldn’t do it. In fact most would have to
be damn near passed out to fall for something like that, in which case
sexual activity would be for most an impossibility.
People really need to stop blaming alcohol and poor lighting for
making non mainstream choices when it comes to sexual attraction, it’s
really getting old. You trolls are always so big one personal
responsibility but yet when it comes to this issue you make excuse
after excuse, lol.
> It is all about who he can attract and what is available. If he is
> not physically attractive and he has very limited wealth only the less
> desirable women will be available to him and that is what he will
> avail himself to.
>
Granted in some circumstances some guys do settle for what they can
get but it doesn’t mean that they are totally unattached to the woman
they are settling for. A lot of guys dream of what they want in a
woman but real life doesn’t always cooperate quite like they want it
to. In all walks of life it comes down to compromise and that fact
transcends sexual relations as well. This is the point that you and
your ilk constantly either ignore or outright miss. Just because every
guy can’t be dating a super model it doesn’t mean he isn’t attracted
to the current woman on his arm.
> The good looking 5ft 3in 130 pounder Blue eyed Blonde is in control an
> she well knows it.
>
Sorry to say but that is a fallacy created by guys that are
intimidated by women. Studies show that most very attractive women
receive less attention from guys because men desperately fear
rejection. Maybe that is the problem with your way of thinking and for
that matter your whole argument.
Ragnar
Fred
> You are purposely forgetting the very important visual aspect of
> this and that most guys need visual stimulation to be attracted enough
> to a woman to want to have sex with her. It is no coincidence that
> experts in human attraction have said that men have sex with their
> eyes. In other words men are attracted by the physical appearance of a
> possible partner and this generally happens within the first 10
> seconds of the encounter. So-called casual sex between a man and a
> women is based entirely on lust and lust my friend is based entirely
> on physical attraction.
So why do heterosexual men go to prison, have gay sex while behind
bars, then go back to their original heterosexual behavior upon release?
--
Wildhare
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:31:13 -0700 (PDT), Ragnar
>
>
>
>
>
> <rapierfen...@live.com> wrote:
> persuasion than the well proportioned ones who are in great demand.
>
> attention, more wining and dining, more gifts, more luxury
> entertainment than the obese woman who do not have a pack of horny men
> pursuing them.
>
> IOW, a man may salivate when a new Lexus goes by but he settles for
> owning and driving a 1999 Ford Escort with faded paint, bangs and
> dings and 135,000 miles on the clock if that is all he can afford.
> He may even talk about how well it drives and runs.
>
Sounds like you are long over due for a new ride. I'm sure there are
some excellent new/used cars in your price range.
W.
Wildhare
> "Wildhare" <themouthofsauron1...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Like all desperate retards you assume too much.
>Now go eat a few Big Macs and watch the Biggest Loser.
>
Why, do you need watching? I usually get paid to baby sit.
> >So, how much fat fetish porn are you familiar with?
>
> I've seen the one where you were anally raped by a horse.- Hide quoted text -
>
Obviously you have me confused with your moms big screen debut. I hope
her asshole heals well enough for the sequal. I know in these tough
economic times one has to do what best pays the bills.
BTW, I didn’t know you were into bestiality. You just might be a
sicker fuck that I first thought.
W.
Wildhare
sockpuppetry.
This almost to comical to believe.
So fuckwit, who are you going to be tomorrow?
W.
Wildhare
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:23:35 -0700 (PDT), Wildhare
> bedroom entertainer also sometimes come to a similar conclusion. Time
> to downsize to one of the sleek chic models.
>
And I suppose there might be some men that feel the need to upsize to
a more plush and luxurious pleasure conveyance as well. Not every guy
is comfortable riding on small econo-shit box.
W.
Wildhare
understand that the vast majority of men in the prison system do not
engage in porthole piracy? And in fact many fight like hell to stay
clear of the ass raiders and cock smokers.
While there are obviously bi men in the prison system, you obviously
do not understand the difference between an act of rape and sex
between two consenting adults. No wonder your views on this subject
are so whacked.
W.
Ragnar
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:16:36 -0700 (PDT), Ragnar
> stories of men relieving themselves in the barn. Now the partners
> they found there were not freshly bathed. They may not have been
> particularly pretty, but in their minds they apparently served their
> purpose at that moment. I doubt that they ever developed an emotional
> attachment to the object of their barnyard attention.
>
> That must truly have been a case of any old port in a storm.
>
I think you are alluding to bestiality and that is a sexually deviant
behavior and is not representative of normal male sexual activity.
You must have a very low opinion of men to even think that this is a
good example of how the average guy feeds his sexual desires.
Hopefully you don’t carry these beliefs any further than your current
trolling activity.
Ragnar
Ragnar
sexually. You guys are really reaching now, lol.
BTW, how do you know what the sexual activity of the incarcerated
individual was before going to prison? And how can you be sure the
alleged homosexual activity doesn’t continue after release from
prison? Although there is no doubt that prison rape does take place,
contrary to popular media myth prison is not one big circle jerk.
Besides rape is not sex, it’s an act of aggression and anger performed
on the part of deviant individuals.
Ragnar
Ragnar
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:31:13 -0700 (PDT), Ragnar
>
>
>
>
>
> <rapierfen...@live.com> wrote:
> persuasion than the well proportioned ones who are in great demand.
>
today seem much less modest than they did when I was younger. But
traditionally most very obese women are ashamed of their bodies and
usually take great pains to cover themselves up. That’s what happens
when all your life society constantly reminds you that you are
unattractive and bases your worth as a person on your weight.
You spout popular myth very well; did you major in it in school?
> The award winning ones know quite well that they can demand more
> attention, more wining and dining, more gifts, more luxury
> entertainment than the obese woman who do not have a pack of horny men
> pursuing them.
>
“Award winning”???? It is amazing how you dumbass revere the idea of
the stupid caveman like male chasing a women that he deep down
believes is out of his league. It must suck to have such an
inferiority complex and be so intimidated by the image of an
attractive woman.
> IOW, a man may salivate when a new Lexus goes by but he settles for
> owning and driving a 1999 Ford Escort with faded paint, bangs and
> dings and 135,000 miles on the clock if that is all he can afford.
> He may even talk about how well it drives and runs.
>
Interesting how you didn’t address any of my argument points with any
form of direct rebuttal and instead chose to dribble out more same old
same old crap.
So in effect you simply gave on the argument and doing so made an
admission of argument lost.
Thank you for eventually seeing things more clearly and objectively.
It’s always refreshing to find a troll who clearly understands his or
her limitations.
Ragnar
Fred
<e4c8fe4f-444a-4817...@v4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
wrote:
> > So why do heterosexual men go to prison, have gay sex while behind
> > bars, then go back to their original heterosexual behavior upon
> > release?
> >
> > --
> So now we are using prison rape as an example of how men behave
> sexually. You guys are really reaching now, lol.
I am referring to consensual sex.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality
"In many cases among men, the partner who penetrates another sexually
is not regarded as homosexual, and the receptive partner (who may or
may not be consenting) is called a woman, a "bitch," a "punk," or a
"prag," and is regarded as homosexual. In fact, the penetrating partner
may be homosexual or bisexual and the sexual orientation of those
receptive partners, which had been heterosexual prior to incarceration,
usually remains heterosexual."
http://blog.case.edu/case-news/2006/01/18/prison_inmates_say_sexual_viol
ence_in_penitentiaries_is_a_stereotypical_belief
"Once an individual enters prison, Fleisher found inmates redefine
their sense of sexuality: "Men and women who have never before engaged
in same-sex relations will likely engage in them at some point in their
imprisonment. Inmates around the country said that a majority of
same-sex relations are voluntary, that they don't have to do anything
they don't want to do.""
--
Ragnar
> Ragnar on 6/26/2009 in
> <e4c8fe4f-444a-4817-bf7a-0c6b720fe...@v4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
>
> > > So why do heterosexual men go to prison, have gay sex while behind
> > > bars, then go back to their original heterosexual behavior upon
> > > release?
>
> > > --
> > So now we are using prison rape as an example of how men behave
> > sexually. You guys are really reaching now, lol.
>
> I am referring to consensual sex.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality
>
> "In many cases among men, the partner who penetrates another sexually
> is not regarded as homosexual, and the receptive partner (who may or
> may not be consenting) is called a woman, a "bitch," a "punk," or a
> "prag," and is regarded as homosexual. In fact, the penetrating partner
> may be homosexual or bisexual and the sexual orientation of those
> receptive partners, which had been heterosexual prior to incarceration,
> usually remains heterosexual."
>
valid source of info by any form of academic standards. But if you
insisted on this course of argument you should note that even the Wiki
article states that according to Human Rights Watch the vast majority
of prison sex is a rape and the so-called willing participants tend to
be sex slaves. I’m not quite sure what you were grasping at by using
that Wiki article as a point of argument.
“According to Human Rights Watch in a 2001 report, sexual slavery
frequently poses as a consensual sexual relationship. Rape victims are
often intimidated into feigning consent to sexual activity, to the
point of becoming "slaves" and the figurative property of their
rapists. This occurs in both male and female prisons”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality
> http://blog.case.edu/case-news/2006/01/18/prison_inmates_say_sexual_viol
> ence_in_penitentiaries_is_a_stereotypical_belief
>
> "Once an individual enters prison, Fleisher found inmates redefine
> their sense of sexuality: "Men and women who have never before engaged
> in same-sex relations will likely engage in them at some point in their
> imprisonment. Inmates around the country said that a majority of
> same-sex relations are voluntary, that they don't have to do anything
> they don't want to do.""
>
Blogs that are also dead links don’t count either, dumbass. Blogs are
opinion based ramblings and are not considered valid academic
information.
Ragnar
Ragnar
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 06:03:59 -0700 (PDT), Ragnar
>
No doubt you are full of shit as well.
> I do seem to recall a story where the man keep his 400lb wife in the
> barn. Said he didn't want her in the house.
>
Yeah okay, you heard a story stating something like that, lol. Why is
it that this stupid shit is never heard or seen first hand? I think
that maybe you really need to treat the mother of your children better
than that.
Ragnar
Fred
> On Jun 26, 11:34�pm, "Fred" <b...@me.net> wrote:
> > Ragnar �on 6/26/2009 in
> > <e4c8fe4f-444a-4817-bf7a-0c6b720fe...@v4g2000vba.googlegroups.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > So why do heterosexual men go to prison, have gay sex while
> > > > behind bars, then go back to their original heterosexual
> > > > behavior upon release?
> >
> > > > --
> > > So now we are using prison rape as an example of how men behave
> > > sexually. You guys are really reaching now, lol.
> >
> > I am referring to consensual sex.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality
> >
> > "In many cases among men, the partner who penetrates another
> > sexually is not regarded as homosexual, and the receptive partner
> > (who may or may not be consenting) is called a woman, a "bitch," a
> > "punk," or a "prag," and is regarded as homosexual. In fact, the
> > penetrating partner may be homosexual or bisexual and the sexual
> > orientation of those receptive partners, which had been
> > heterosexual prior to incarceration, usually remains heterosexual."
> >
> Please dude; Wikipedia???? You do know that Wiki is not considered a
> valid source of info by any form of academic standards.
Actually, my wife is a college professor and Wiki can be used with two
other corroborative sources. Individual college policies vary, but
that's pretty standard.
> But if you
> insisted on this course of argument you should note that even the Wiki
> article states that according to Human Rights Watch the vast majority
> of prison sex is a rape and the so-called willing participants tend to
> be sex slaves. I�m not quite sure what you were grasping at by using
> that Wiki article as a point of argument.
>
> �According to Human Rights Watch in a 2001 report, sexual slavery
> frequently poses as a consensual sexual relationship. Rape victims are
> often intimidated into feigning consent to sexual activity, to the
> point of becoming "slaves" and the figurative property of their
> rapists. This occurs in both male and female prisons�
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality
You're using the same source that you just stated was crap. Bzzzt!
>
>
> > http://blog.case.edu/case-news/2006/01/18/prison_inmates_say_sexual_
> > viol ence_in_penitentiaries_is_a_stereotypical_belief
> >
> > "Once an individual enters prison, Fleisher found inmates redefine
> > their sense of sexuality: "Men and women who have never before
> > engaged in same-sex relations will likely engage in them at some
> > point in their imprisonment. Inmates around the country said that a
> > majority of same-sex relations are voluntary, that they don't have
> > to do anything they don't want to do.""
> >
> Blogs that are also dead links don�t count either, dumbass.
Link works fine, dumbass. Just went there.
> Blogs are
> opinion based ramblings and are not considered valid academic
> information.
There is a citation in the blog, dumbass. Of course, you're too stupid
to get to the actual page to begin with.
>
> Ragnar
--
Ragnar
source. Third party information is not accurate enough to base a point
of argument or research on. The citations within the Wiki article can
only be used if they are academically supported and properly cited at
the source. Any given Wiki article can be altered by anyone with a PC
and supporting data is not required for an article to appear in print.
For that reason it is NOT accepted by academia. I don’t know what
college your wife teaches at but even in HS Wiki is considered a no-
no.
> > But if you
> > insisted on this course of argument you should note that even the Wiki
> > article states that according to Human Rights Watch the vast majority
> > of prison sex is a rape and the so-called willing participants tend to
> > be sex slaves. I’m not quite sure what you were grasping at by using
> > that Wiki article as a point of argument.
>> > “According to Human Rights Watch in a 2001 report, sexual slavery
> > frequently poses as a consensual sexual relationship. Rape victims are
> > often intimidated into feigning consent to sexual activity, to the
> > point of becoming "slaves" and the figurative property of their
> > rapists. This occurs in both male and female prisons”
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_sexuality
>
> You're using the same source that you just stated was crap. Bzzzt!
>
As I stated, and please read “But if YOU insist on this course of
argument”. In other words dumbass, I was using your own invalid source
to show you that your assertion that prison sex is consensual was flat
out wrong. The material you cited DIDN’T even remotely support your
argument and in fact stated the opposite conclusion. You really can't
be this stupid, can you????
Maybe you should ask your wife for lessons regarding how to draw
proper conclusions from your research material.
>
>
> > >http://blog.case.edu/case-news/2006/01/18/prison_inmates_say_sexual_
> > > viol ence_in_penitentiaries_is_a_stereotypical_belief
>
> > > "Once an individual enters prison, Fleisher found inmates redefine
> > > their sense of sexuality: "Men and women who have never before
> > > engaged in same-sex relations will likely engage in them at some
> > > point in their imprisonment. Inmates around the country said that a
> > > majority of same-sex relations are voluntary, that they don't have
> > > to do anything they don't want to do.""
>
> > Blogs that are also dead links don’t count either, dumbass.
>
> Link works fine, dumbass. Just went there.
>
Well how nice for you but again, regardless of the links operation,
blogs are third or fourth party opinion based sources of information
and are not to be considered valid. Most blogs are hearsay and are
designed to showcase the opinion of the writer and not necessarily the
facts.
>
> > Blogs are
> > opinion based ramblings and are not considered valid academic
> > information.
>
> There is a citation in the blog, dumbass. Of course, you're too stupid
> to get to the actual page to begin with.
>
If you are going base your argument on the info stated in a blog then
cite the actual citation that the blog uses as its reference point,
stupid. Or are you too fucking lazy and dumb to do the actual
research. Or maybe like the Wiki article it doesn’t support your
ignorant theory.
Get a clue fuckstick, smoke and mirrors doesn’t win arguments here. Go
back to school or ask your wife (the so-called college professor) how
to actually do some real research and not look like a fool in the
process. For someone who is married to an individual involved in
higher education you sure are butt fucking, dumb. Obviously she
married below her station.
Here is a thought; maybe you could ask your wife to help you out and
point you in the direction of some good special ed. courses. Why don't
start there and come back when you have grasped the basic ability to
not act like such an obnoxious, dumbfuck.
Ragnar
Ragnar
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:45:04 -0700 (PDT), Ragnar
> material and was somewhat in agreement with what you were writing
>
“Somewhat in agreement”??? If that is the case then you are only
“somewhat” in agreement with just about every academic authority on
the planet.
> UNTIL I got to the part where you declared the other party to be a
> FUCKSTICK. that they are butt fucking dumb, and are an obnoxious
> dumbfuck.
>
I’m sorry if it bothers you, but sometimes you have to call a spade a
spade.
> Is this you usual approach when you take issue with another's opinion.
>
Only with ignorant an aggressive trolls.
BTW, where have you been when the regular members of this group are
called by trolls fat pig, fat smelly slob, and loser, stupid fat whore
or disgusting glutton? Do you not find those labels just as juvenile
and offensive?
> In my opinion you entire argument went down the drain when you
> resorted to such juvenile attacks on the other poster in lieu of the
> other persons stanch on the issue. You did not come across as a
> educated, intelligent adult.
>
It's all part of the game that is played out here everyday. So don’t
get all weepy eyed because I didn’t live up to your intellectual
standards by stepping out of line and insulting a dumbass troll. If
it's too disconcerting for your sensibilities then very simply don't
get involved.
Ragnar
The Chief Instigator
>On Tue, 24 Jun 2009, The Chief Instigator wrote:
>
>> I'm not all that tall - a meter and 85 - but I'm right where I should be,
>> right around 78 kilos. I don't need to be bigger than that, as it's
>
>You're right, I have a good 10 cm on you and about 12 kg larger.
As long as we're not facing off at the Cedar Park Events Center, what's the
problem? ;-)
--
Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (pat...@io.com) Houston, Texas
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