Submitting to the pain
Tobie
bottom who was soundly thrashed on Saturday ( I'm so pampered ), that
the submission he had shown during a rather intense scene was raw,
stunning and beautiful.
Then I asked him whether he had been submitting to me, to himself, or
to the pain, and asked if he knew the difference.
After giving it some thought he said he had been submitting to the
pain.
It was wonderful to participate in.
First I'd put him up one the rope rack that most good play spaces
have, face front and blindfolded. I used an acrylic slapper on his
chest muscles, outter thighs and alternated with the large paint stick
as a little added surprise.
After he was good and squirmytwitchy I turned him and proceeded to
heat the other side of him as well and eased him down in to a
moderately good bottomspace.
We moved over to a table then and I got more serious on his backside
with lots of thwapping with the leather strop, and the acrylic cane,
with the whippy goddammthatbitchhurts rod.
I rolled him over and went back to his chest muscles and worked his to
the point where he was having to fight himself to keep from fighting
me. I'd slap and he'd curse vividly, and shake his fists aggressively
and growl, as soon as he subsided I'd do it again. I did it untill he
surrendered to the pain and finally curled around me as I stood beside
the table.
After a cool down, a bit of sugar and a lot of water he was zinging
around visiting with everyone and being goofy as all getout.
It was a good time indeed.
Tobie
The Dip in the Dip Corps
SSBB Diplomatic Corps
Portland Oregon
Troia
> On our way home from a Saturday night play party I told my Thursday
> bottom who was soundly thrashed on Saturday ( I'm so pampered ), that
> the submission he had shown during a rather intense scene was raw,
> stunning and beautiful.
> Then I asked him whether he had been submitting to me, to himself, or
> to the pain, and asked if he knew the difference.
> After giving it some thought he said he had been submitting to the
> pain.
>
> It was wonderful to participate in.
I always have this inclination to say something like "Thank you for
sharing", but it sounds awfully trite.
I hope you know what I mean, though.
Also I've noticed it's a lot more common to read things from the
bottom's POV; for me, it's a pleasant change & revealing, to hear it
from the Top side, since it's an experience I'm likely to never have
(being thoroughly unable to even think about switching even in play).
-- Troia
Brian G.
Submitting to the pain is at first a personal challenge, but of course, in
order to do it, you sort of have to have some feelings for the person
inflicting it in the first place,. Submitting FOR yourself, is also a
challenge, but feels emptier afterwards, as in a way, you are 'using' the
top to put you through your threshold.
Submitting to the person is often enduring something that you don't like
for the person you care for's pleasure, having trust that no lasting damage
will occur, but you feel good about giving them what they want, for love or
whatever you may wish to call it.
Now here comes a totally different view... over to...?
Brian
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"Scare Me" <sca...@gmx.de> wrote in message
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> Tobie wrote:
>> Then I asked him whether he had been submitting to me, to himself, or
>> to the pain, and asked if he knew the difference.
>
> I don't know the difference, not for sure. Could you explain?
>
> --
> Sadistic pleasure is an intoxicant, and I have taught myself to
> only take carefully calibrated sips. (Mistress Matisse)
Tobie
>Tobie wrote:
>> Then I asked him whether he had been submitting to me, to himself, or
>> to the pain, and asked if he knew the difference.
>
>I don't know the difference, not for sure. Could you explain?
I'll be glad to try.
Submitting to someone else:
You're doing what you're doing because it will please someone else.
Submitting to yourself:
You're doing what you're doing because *submission* is pleasing to
you, more so than the actual action you are doing in the effort to
submit. You have chosen to submit to a certain act, you are pushing
through and acomplishing that goal, you are pleased with yourself for
being able to do that.
Submitting to the pain:
Letting go of everything around you, falling 'in to' the pain instead
of away from it, welcoming it even when it's agony and finding ways to
push through your own boundaries and anger and prefered levels and
types of pain to simply embrace the pain you are dealing with at the
moment. Some times you have to do all of those things for *each* blow.
Hot stuff right there now.
Troia
I think that was a great explanation. For me, a lot of it has to do
with the depth/intimacy of the relationship with the Top. It addresses
one of the differences I find between playing, even with a regular
partner, and being in an intimate relationship, but I imagine others
have different responses. I can take much more pain submitting to the
Top than in the other two ways, though.
And I couldn't find the words but this speaks directly to what I have
experienced, too, over many years.
>
> Hot stuff right there now.
Uh, yeah ...
I wonder if ... it's time to change the furnace filter?
-- Troia
Tobie
<troia....@gmail.removethis.com> wrote:
>I think that was a great explanation.
Thank you.
> For me, a lot of it has to do
>with the depth/intimacy of the relationship with the Top.
It does with me too, but in different ways, I think. I need the
'knowing' of a person to really beat them in to deep levels of what
ever it is they are able to get to. *I* can't just begin with a bottom
and on the first session take them deep. I need to take them part way
and have ourselves a little visit about it and see where things were
great and where they were lacking a bit and all that, we go a little
deeper by steps as it were.
My Thursday bottom and I have the deepest relationship, we're together
at least twice a week and so we *talk* more.
> It addresses
>one of the differences I find between playing, even with a regular
>partner, and being in an intimate relationship, but I imagine others
>have different responses.
I'm reasonably sure that I'd have the same reactions with people, just
from the other end. The more you know someone ( if it's all good ) the
more you trust them, the more you can share and it just builds.
> I can take much more pain submitting to the
>Top than in the other two ways, though.
*nods* I think it works that way for many submissive folks.
>
>And I couldn't find the words but this speaks directly to what I have
>experienced, too, over many years.
I'm really glad!
Stephanie Moore-Fuller
> It was wonderful to participate in.
>
> First I'd put him up one the rope rack that most good play spaces
> have, face front and blindfolded. I used an acrylic slapper on his
> chest muscles, outter thighs and alternated with the large paint stick
> as a little added surprise.
> After he was good and squirmytwitchy I turned him and proceeded to
> heat the other side of him as well and eased him down in to a
> moderately good bottomspace.
> We moved over to a table then and I got more serious on his backside
> with lots of thwapping with the leather strop, and the acrylic cane,
> with the whippy goddammthatbitchhurts rod.
>
> I rolled him over and went back to his chest muscles and worked his to
> the point where he was having to fight himself to keep from fighting
> me. I'd slap and he'd curse vividly, and shake his fists aggressively
> and growl, as soon as he subsided I'd do it again.
Oooo, I adore that dynamic! I was lucky enough to get to do this to a
man not that long ago, and I found it very, very hot!
stephanie
--
Stephanie Moore-Fuller smoo...@blackrose.org Mountain View, CA, USA
"Whenever I entertain doubts about the existence of the Almighty, I remember
that through my friends, G-d has loved me."
-- Rita Mae Brown
Lynn
Stephanie Moore-Fuller wrote:
> > I rolled him over and went back to his chest muscles and worked his to
> > the point where he was having to fight himself to keep from fighting
> > me. I'd slap and he'd curse vividly, and shake his fists aggressively
> > and growl, as soon as he subsided I'd do it again.
>
> Oooo, I adore that dynamic! I was lucky enough to get to do this to a
> man not that long ago, and I found it very, very hot!
<beating self about the head and shoulders> Remind me to quit crowding
my schedule so much!
Lynn
Stephanie Moore-Fuller
<bat eyelashes>
Why Lynn!!
Do I detect the hint of a 'wanna'? Oh my, oh my.
Lynn
Stephanie Moore-Fuller wrote:
> >>
> >> Oooo, I adore that dynamic! I was lucky enough to get to do this to a
> >> man not that long ago, and I found it very, very hot!
> >
> ><beating self about the head and shoulders> Remind me to quit crowding
> > my schedule so much!
>
> <bat eyelashes>
>
> Why Lynn!!
>
> Do I detect the hint of a 'wanna'? Oh my, oh my.
Nearly always wanna. Alas, I'm not a mean-enough top to go there
myself, without an encouraging co-top. But watching such a scene would
leave me wishing I were, big time!
Lynn
Stephanie Moore-Fuller
Possibly something could Be Arranged.
stephanie
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Stephanie Moore-Fuller smoo...@blackrose.org Mountain View, CA, USA
"I don't know who you hang out with but in my experience het people can't
shut up about their sexual orientation."
-- Gwendolyn Dean