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CoreyWhite

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Jan 8, 2007, 9:22:02 PM1/8/07
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This is my vision of Olympiada in digital charcoal. I spent a few
hours visualizing how I imagined her to look, and found a photograph
that reminded me of my fantasy. She has been encouraging me lately to
focus on my art, and fantasies. So I got out my charcoal set, and drew
the photo as large as I was able to on a huge sheet of paper. I tride
my best to think about the photo as hard as I could and visualize
myself drawing it in my mind. But as usual my art is never good
enough. So what I did next created something I hope will be adaquet to
show you how I actually imagine okay.

Once I scanned the image in I used an artistic technique I've created
to create a digital copy of it in photoshop. Then I blended in the
real photo with my artistic charcoal, so you can't tell there even was
a real photo. It looks like truly digitally inspired artwork, they a
real artist may as well have created. I just love this technique and I
hope you all take a look here: http://www.ckoogle.com/atlanta.gif

If you have any GOOD criticisms let me know so I can continue to work
on my methods, and create even better works of interactive fantasy in
the future.

Tell me what you think especially Atlanta. Does it look like you? ?

beauty

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Jan 8, 2007, 9:27:55 PM1/8/07
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I will send you my photographs. I expect them to stay personal and
confidential. I will send you my photographs from Christmas at my
parents house. I am very photogenic. As I have sent them to another
member of ssbb, you shall be the second. My hair is not that long, I cut
it at my grandma's recommendation last year. You will see me, and I want
you to draw what I send you and post that, but not my photograph. My
photographs are on my parish website, so I will send you those first,
and then my private ones next from my parents.
I am reading alt.gothic again, so you may post to me there.

Bob Terwilliger

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Jan 9, 2007, 12:23:02 AM1/9/07
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CoreyWhite wrote:

> This is my vision of Olympiada in digital charcoal. I spent
> a few hours visualizing how I imagined her to look,

You envisioned her STANDING? Surely that's the posture she's LEAST likely to
adopt.

Bob


CoreyWhite

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Jan 9, 2007, 12:56:39 AM1/9/07
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It might be more interesting if I put some clothes on her, and did
another drawing of her as a portrait, so you could see her face. But
I'm finding out now that I have her photos, once I go to all of this
trouble modeling the charcoal drawing, I can look at that and draw it
again on paper and it is 10x better than what I started with. :)

CoreyWhite

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Jan 9, 2007, 7:34:33 PM1/9/07
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Beauty, beauty, beauty. I've been working on your portrait since
before 10:00 AM my time (EST). It is 7:30 now, and I've shown you a
few drafts of my artwork, and tride to correct the changes and
suggestions to it that you have made. In the end I thought it was one
of the very best drawings I've ever done. But you aren't happy with
it?

I have failed, and it doesn't look like anyone will ever get to see my
drawing. It is such a dissapointment because I will be working all day
tomorrow trying to reproduce what I made by hand, and then will be
bringing it back onto the computer to blend with the digital image.
But in my gut I know you still won't like my art anymore than what I
made today.

It is so shameful for me to even try. I've always wanted to become an
artist, and it is such a tired frustrating road. But it always has
been. I do hope that you can appreciate all of the love & energy I
have put into this. And I will be saving this portrait for times to
come. So thanks for sending me the photos. At least it gave me
something constructive to do with my time.

But I don't see where this relationship is going if you only loved me
for my art, and now you say it is no good. I don't even know what a
femdom is... And I don't think I will be buying anyone a television.
Although my stocks grew 8% today. The Apple company is doing great.
Maybe I will send some to fight aids in africa.

~:)

beauty

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Jan 9, 2007, 8:24:49 PM1/9/07
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Corey, it is best worked out in private. Take it off the Internet. I
rescind my permission to have it on the Internet. I want it off
immediately.

> I have failed, and it doesn't look like anyone will ever get to see my
> drawing. It is such a dissapointment because I will be working all day
> tomorrow trying to reproduce what I made by hand, and then will be
> bringing it back onto the computer to blend with the digital image.
> But in my gut I know you still won't like my art anymore than what I
> made today.
>
If you want a model, then find a professional one. I have decided this
violates my Master's authority over me and I do not wish to displease
him. Please stop. My naked body and my visage are his and his alone to
do with as he wishes. I am sorry I allowed you to take it this far.

> It is so shameful for me to even try. I've always wanted to become an
> artist, and it is such a tired frustrating road. But it always has
> been. I do hope that you can appreciate all of the love & energy I
> have put into this. And I will be saving this portrait for times to
> come. So thanks for sending me the photos. At least it gave me
> something constructive to do with my time.
>
I appreciate it. But I do not want them on the Internet. As I stated I
have a master and my image belongs to him and him alone. I am sorry.

> But I don't see where this relationship is going if you only loved me
> for my art, and now you say it is no good. I don't even know what a
> femdom is... And I don't think I will be buying anyone a television.
> Although my stocks grew 8% today. The Apple company is doing great.
> Maybe I will send some to fight aids in africa.
>
> ~:)
>
>
I love you for who you are. Your art is good. But it is not proper for
your fantasy of my naked body to be on the Internet. Your portrait is
good. I may allow that. Take the naked drawing off the Internet and we
shall see. I am sorry I hurt your feelings. People are criticizing your
work. Never mind about the femdom. Mentor is a better word. I do not
need a television. A man in my real life offered me one today. I do need
a digital camera though. Mine broke. You can support this man's mission:
jbburnett.com

DonSideB

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Jan 9, 2007, 12:16:34 PM1/9/07
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On 8 Jan 2007 18:22:02 -0800, "CoreyWhite" <Corey...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>This is my vision of Olympiada in digital charcoal.

Rats.

I thought you meant a vision of Atlanta ON charcoal, as in being
barbequed.

What a disappointment.


DonSideB

Build a man a fire and you keep him warm for a day,
Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.

beauty

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Jan 9, 2007, 12:20:57 PM1/9/07
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Give me a break! I am about to go stand in Church for a hierarchal
liturgy, in a long dress and high heels. He got my breasts wrong. And I
have never posed nude for a man. I gave him fully clothed pictures of me
so he can change my image. That was his fantasy, not entirely off, but
not entirely correct either.

beauty

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Jan 9, 2007, 12:22:33 PM1/9/07
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I gave you the clothed pictures. Do those and repost them. My nipples
are not that big and I never stand naked for men to draw me. That was
your fantasy, pretty good, but not entirely correct. My hair is below my
shoulders. I cut it off when I divorced as a symbol of my mourning. It
used to be that long.

Please show me what you come up with. Let us talk about drawing with
colored pencils this afternoon. I need to produce a line of greeting
cards for work and I need a lot of help. I am far behind in my
production due to joining the team late.

beauty

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Jan 9, 2007, 12:22:58 PM1/9/07
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You can do a Muki's kitchen if you like, but Corey does not know what
that is.

CoreyWhite

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Jan 9, 2007, 9:01:51 PM1/9/07
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I have been working on this drawing more tonight, and finally I have
something that Atlanta and I are both happy with. It may not explore
her beauty in its entirety, but it is much better than the last work of
fiction I did exploring my fantasies about her. It is now hosted at
the same link, so I hope you all can enjoy, even if you aren't able to
comment on how well it looks like our lovely. But she has taken me on
under her as my femdom now, so I know I must have done well enough with
this to impress her. But she helped me throughout the entire process.

Ravenlynne

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Jan 9, 2007, 4:02:08 PM1/9/07
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Why'd you give her a droopy butt?

--
The Doctor: And I'm looking for a blonde in a Union Jack. A specific
one, mind you, I didn't just wake up this morning with a craving.

beauty

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Jan 9, 2007, 5:10:03 PM1/9/07
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Ravenlynne wrote:
> CoreyWhite wrote:
>> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>>> CoreyWhite wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is my vision of Olympiada in digital charcoal. I spent
>>>> a few hours visualizing how I imagined her to look,
>>> You envisioned her STANDING? Surely that's the posture she's LEAST
>>> likely to
>>> adopt.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>
>> It might be more interesting if I put some clothes on her, and did
>> another drawing of her as a portrait, so you could see her face. But
>> I'm finding out now that I have her photos, once I go to all of this
>> trouble modeling the charcoal drawing, I can look at that and draw it
>> again on paper and it is 10x better than what I started with. :)
>>
>
> Why'd you give her a droopy butt?
>
That is not me. I do not have a "droopy butt" and I am not going to show
him a picture of my butt because I do not allow pictures of my butt.
He is currently working on a portrait of me and he has the nose wrong. I
have a Roman nose.

The face on me in that first portrait is wrong. The bone structure in my
face is more defined, I have higher cheek bones. Give him credit for
trying.

I am honored that he would do this for me, of his own volition, as my
name is getting smeared across the Internet.

BTW I told TDVForum that you had defiled two of my nyms on my space, and
they thought I was promoting my My Space site. I don't have one!

People out there are spreading lies about me and then accusing me of
lying. People are hostile, mean and nasty and when I call them on the
carpet they attack me!!!

What a battleground...

There is a lot of gossip about me out there on the Internet, and none of
it is true. The people that are gossiping about me are not members of my
community and do not know me in real life. I am astounded at the bad
press that is being generated about a woman. I have never ever seen such
a thing in all my life.

Ravenlynne

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Jan 9, 2007, 6:10:46 PM1/9/07
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beauty wrote:
>
> The face on me in that first portrait is wrong. The bone structure in my
> face is more defined, I have higher cheek bones. Give him credit for
> trying.

I give him credit for being sick.

>
> I am honored that he would do this for me, of his own volition, as my
> name is getting smeared across the Internet.

Yeah...some stranger is posting his drawings of how he thinks I look
naked on the internet...I wouldn't be upset about that at all..just
happy. Whatever.

>
> BTW I told TDVForum that you had defiled two of my nyms on my space, and
> they thought I was promoting my My Space site. I don't have one!

I've never even visited MySpace. That's libel. I will punish you by
doing something nasty....like posting a lot or something.

>
> People out there are spreading lies about me and then accusing me of
> lying. People are hostile, mean and nasty and when I call them on the
> carpet they attack me!!!

We'll attack you anyway. Doesn't matter what you do.

>
> What a battleground...

It's tough. You should definitely take a break from it.

beauty

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Jan 9, 2007, 6:24:39 PM1/9/07
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Ravenlynne wrote:
>
>>
>> I am honored that he would do this for me, of his own volition, as my
>> name is getting smeared across the Internet.
>
> Yeah...some stranger is posting his drawings of how he thinks I look
> naked on the internet...I wouldn't be upset about that at all..just
> happy. Whatever.
>
Again, you misjudged and you assume you are correct. I gave him a
photograph of me, a portrait, to counter his naked fantasy, and he is
working on that. You see this? Erroneous conclusion on your part,
broadcast to the world equals slander, calumny and gossip.

>>
>> BTW I told TDVForum that you had defiled two of my nyms on my space,
>> and they thought I was promoting my My Space site. I don't have one!
>
> I've never even visited MySpace. That's libel. I will punish you by
> doing something nasty....like posting a lot or something.
>
I did not say you. I said whoever took two of my nyms out of this group
and created a My Space page with them.

>>
>> People out there are spreading lies about me and then accusing me of
>> lying. People are hostile, mean and nasty and when I call them on the
>> carpet they attack me!!!
>
> We'll attack you anyway. Doesn't matter what you do.
Right, which means you are all wrong, because you are just attacking me.
It is you who do not care about the truth. It is you who are acting
despicable and yet you are praised for doing so. What kind of womanhood
is this? I am horrified.

>
>>
>> What a battleground...
>
> It's tough. You should definitely take a break from it.
>
>
I did. But I came back. I am working towards something with somebody. I
am determined to work this out, one way or another.

Renate

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Jan 9, 2007, 6:27:25 PM1/9/07
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beauty wrote:
>Ravenlynne wrote:
>> CoreyWhite wrote:
>>> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>>>> CoreyWhite wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is my vision of Olympiada in digital charcoal. I spent
>>>>> a few hours visualizing how I imagined her to look,
>
>>>> You envisioned her STANDING? Surely that's the posture she's LEAST
>>>> likely to adopt.
>>>
>>> It might be more interesting if I put some clothes on her, and did
>>> another drawing of her as a portrait, so you could see her face.
>>
>> Why'd you give her a droopy butt?
>>
>That is not me. I do not have a "droopy butt" and I am not going to show
>him a picture of my butt because I do not allow pictures of my butt.
>He is currently working on a portrait of me and he has the nose wrong.

Yeah, but we'll *always* remember you as having a droopy butt, crooked
nose, and no cheekbones. First impressions and all that.


>
>I am honored that he would do this for me, of his own volition, as my
>name is getting smeared across the Internet.

Surely couldn't have anything to do with you posting your LIES all
over the 'Net, could it?


>
>BTW I told TDVForum that you had defiled two of my nyms on my space, and
>they thought I was promoting my My Space site. I don't have one!

The troll is bent out of shape, because hours after she announced that
she had the TDV denizens in the palm of her hand, they *permanently*
moderated her, on the grounds of general stupidity.


>
>People out there are spreading lies about me and then accusing me of
>lying. People are hostile, mean and nasty and when I call them on the
>carpet they attack me!!!

What's with that nym? Who are you? I've used that phrase "call them
on the carpet" before. Are you me?

Aww HELL NO!
>
>What a battleground...

Nah, just a fantasy game to while away the time.


>
>There is a lot of gossip about me out there on the Internet, and none of
>it is true. The people that are gossiping about me are not members of my
>community and do not know me in real life. I am astounded at the bad
>press that is being generated about a woman. I have never ever seen such
>a thing in all my life.

Well then, maybe you should stop LYING about yourself all over the
'Net, so that you don't have any more bad press.

Renate

beauty

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Jan 9, 2007, 6:39:50 PM1/9/07
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Renate wrote:
> beauty wrote:
>
>> Ravenlynne wrote:
>>
>>> CoreyWhite wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bob Terwilliger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> CoreyWhite wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is my vision of Olympiada in digital charcoal. I spent
>>>>>> a few hours visualizing how I imagined her to look,
>>>>>>
>>>>> You envisioned her STANDING? Surely that's the posture she's LEAST
>>>>> likely to adopt.
>>>>>
>>>> It might be more interesting if I put some clothes on her, and did
>>>> another drawing of her as a portrait, so you could see her face.
>>>>
>>> Why'd you give her a droopy butt?
>>>
>>>
>> That is not me. I do not have a "droopy butt" and I am not going to show
>> him a picture of my butt because I do not allow pictures of my butt.
>> He is currently working on a portrait of me and he has the nose wrong.
>>
>
> Yeah, but we'll *always* remember you as having a droopy butt, crooked
> nose, and no cheekbones. First impressions and all that.
>
Well that is your problem. I clearly stated that was his fantasy. He
posted that without my permission because of his exuberance for me. I am
flattered he would go to the effort. That portrait is not unattractive,
it is just not me.

>> I am honored that he would do this for me, of his own volition, as my
>> name is getting smeared across the Internet.
>>
>
> Surely couldn't have anything to do with you posting your LIES all
> over the 'Net, could it?
>
I do not post lies all over the Internet. The lot of you, the ones who
defile me, do not understand me, and post lies about me all over the
Internet. Get it? It is you who are the liar, not I. I tell the truth
about myself. You tell your version of what you think I am saying and it
is usually false. Communication takes time and effort, much back and
forth, mirroring, repeating, asking for clarity. You do none of that.
You just insult and flame every single time you reply to my messages. It
is you who make yourself look like the ignorant one and totally lacking
in communication skills.

>> BTW I told TDVForum that you had defiled two of my nyms on my space, and
>> they thought I was promoting my My Space site. I don't have one!
>>
>
> The troll is bent out of shape, because hours after she announced that
> she had the TDV denizens in the palm of her hand, they *permanently*
> moderated her, on the grounds of general stupidity.
>
Actually I did not announce. I misjudged that group. I will not state my
feelings about it publicly, but I have gone web mail. It might not be a
healthy place for me. Rather than ask me about my self, one of the
moderators has dragged in issues from another group.

I am not sure who first demanded to know who my Master was or if I had
one, but that is where things went astray. I have recovered from that
attack. From here on out any one who derides or tries to pry into my
affairs with my Master will get the cold shoulder from me.

I am far from stupid. Everyone in my community knows this for a fact,
everyone in my real life would be the first to tell you how smart I am.

You are invested in making me out to look like a troll. Why, I do not
know, but I have an idea.

It is you who makes yourself look petty to the people who know me in
real life.

You do not listen to me. You only hear your own derisive laughter. Did
you not know that is a sin to laugh at other people?

You seem to be devoid of a prayer life, of fasting and of alms giving,
in short, not a Christian.


>> People out there are spreading lies about me and then accusing me of
>> lying. People are hostile, mean and nasty and when I call them on the
>> carpet they attack me!!!
>>
>
> What's with that nym? Who are you? I've used that phrase "call them
> on the carpet" before. Are you me?
>
> Aww HELL NO!
>

You see, more scorn. It is not Christian to scorn others. You need to
know that as a Church school teacher.
Tell me something, is your ex African American?


>> What a battleground...
>>
>
> Nah, just a fantasy game to while away the time.
>

It is no fantasy to me. You are out there lying about me, banking on
your empty reputation for people to believe you, and I am faced with the
ugly task of countering all of your false accusations that you hurl at
me every time you touch your finger to the keyboard in regards to me.


>> There is a lot of gossip about me out there on the Internet, and none of
>> it is true. The people that are gossiping about me are not members of my
>> community and do not know me in real life. I am astounded at the bad
>> press that is being generated about a woman. I have never ever seen such
>> a thing in all my life.
>>
>
> Well then, maybe you should stop LYING about yourself all over the
> 'Net, so that you don't have any more bad press.
>
> Renate
>

I do not lie, Renate. I attempt to tell the truth, and you do not
listen. You do not ask for clarification. You never ask me questions.
You never mirror back what I write. You just judge, condemn, laugh,
deride, scorn.

You have a very ugly character Renate. Glaringly so. I do not think our
Lord would be pleased with it.

beauty

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Jan 9, 2007, 9:21:59 PM1/9/07
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Actually, Corey, I am only your mentor. And I was wrong, I have no
master. Truly Clooful played tricks with my mind. He said he was not
someone, then he said he was, and then he gave me a choice, and I chose
but I made a mistake. Truly Clooful expects perfection of me, and I can
not give that to him.

So, I take back my assertion, Truly Clooful is not my master, I never
knew him outside of soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm.

I will tell you something. I can not get involved with a man who has a
woman. That violates my moral principles.

I have your portrait of me before me, and it reminds me of who I really
am, not these ugly words that are hurled at me like missiles.

And I know I have a sweet voice.

I am really hurt that people would say such vile things about me, but
what do I know about sadism? Nothing. I really do not think I am a
masochist. I know I must strive to be submissive as a Christian, first
and foremost to God. Then if God sees it fit to deliver a Master to me
in the future to me, then I shall strive to submit to him.

But that is not now.

I can send you the hi resolution photo. It might help your work better.

Technobarbarian

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Jan 9, 2007, 10:12:36 PM1/9/07
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[crossposting trimmed]

"CoreyWhite" <Corey...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168394510.8...@k58g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

>> > Once I scanned the image in I used an artistic technique I've created
>> > to create a digital copy of it in photoshop. Then I blended in the
>> > real photo with my artistic charcoal, so you can't tell there even was
>> > a real photo. It looks like truly digitally inspired artwork, they a
>> > real artist may as well have created. I just love this technique and I
>> > hope you all take a look here: http://www.ckoogle.com/atlanta.gif

> I have been working on this drawing more tonight, and finally I have


> something that Atlanta and I are both happy with. It may not explore
> her beauty in its entirety, but it is much better than the last work of
> fiction I did exploring my fantasies about her. It is now hosted at
> the same link, so I hope you all can enjoy, even if you aren't able to
> comment on how well it looks like our lovely.

Thanks, it's nice to have a "face" to go with the posts. At this point
I think I prefer an artistic rendering to an actual photo. For me it
probably has something to do with the "artistic" (surreal?) nature of
Atlanta's posts. It's an interesting image.

TB


CoreyWhite

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Jan 10, 2007, 11:35:11 AM1/10/07
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This photo is working nicely in the artwork, I updated the link to the
image with the new portrait, and will be working with it today. Like I
wrote in the e-mail, I'll be going to kinkos to have prints made and
will be drawing a large portrait based on this image. And we will get
something even better out of that, more so than just a real sketch.

beauty

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Jan 10, 2007, 11:48:11 AM1/10/07
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CoreyWhite wrote:
>
>>
>> I can send you the hi resolution photo. It might help your work better.
>>
>
> This photo is working nicely in the artwork, I updated the link to the
> image with the new portrait, and will be working with it today. Like I
> wrote in the e-mail, I'll be going to kinkos to have prints made and
> will be drawing a large portrait based on this image. And we will get
> something even better out of that, more so than just a real sketch.
>
>
I am happy to serve as a muse for you. You have a lot of talent and
energy. However, in the future, I would recommend you channeling it into
to something productive like a class. You would probably really enjoy
figure drawing. That is a great medium for charcoal. I still have my
charcoal from my figure drawing classes from a decade ago! I treasure
all my art supplies like jewels and have kept much of my art and my
supplies half my life.

I don't know where you work at night, but the other night I was trying
to work at my desk and the light was all wrong, I was using this little
red lamp that is for a nightstand. I am either going to have to
rearrange my room or work in the dining room. I am _so_ frustrated!

Perhaps if you are good with interior design we could talk about the
measurements of the furniture in my room and how best to arrange
everything for working at night.

I don't like drawing on the computer. I used to work in a media lab at
a children's museum and learned to do all that and teach kids how to do
all that, but I still prefer pencil, eraser, sharpener, paper and I
probably always will. I like digital photography for capturing an image
to work off of, but that is about as far as it goes for now in terms of
technology that I choose to use.

I like writing to you because you are another artist and you can accept
my artistic writing. I really don't like engaging in argument and you
never argue with me and I really appreciate this.

I am happy to be your artistic mentor. I started taking art classes as a
young child at the De Young Museum and never stopped. If you ever come
out here, that would be a fun place to go to together. I love art
museums and have not been to one since I left the city over two years ago.

It has been said that I might like to teach art formally in a decade. I
have taught art to children at a children's museum, and a family
shelter. We shall see what the future holds.

Markem

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Jan 10, 2007, 11:49:49 AM1/10/07
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On 10 Jan 2007 08:35:11 -0800, "CoreyWhite" <Corey...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I replied to Corey in
alt.gothic,alt.magick,alt.religion.wicca,alt.pagan

With

"Nothing really

Now Corey I want you to read soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm charter and
do you want to keep that AOL account?

"The following information is useful whether you intended to post
to SSB or just read it. If you do intend to post, please read the
charter at

http://web.newsguy.com/Frites/charter.htm
or
http://www.phszx81.demon.co.uk/charter.html

The charter isn't long or difficult. The most important part
is that it prohibits personal or commercial ads in the
newsgroup."

Markem"
(sixoneeight) = 618

CoreyWhite

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Jan 10, 2007, 1:45:50 PM1/10/07
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I'll see if I can't audit a class next term. I'm not in school right
now, the difficulty level at my college might as well be MIT, except
they just teach liberal alternative stuff. It is amazing how think and
wordy philosophy textbooks can be. And that's the emphasis at Antioch.

But as for drawing I came up with a great idea. I'm going to buy some
clear sheets of plastic for drawing on, and by some grease pencils or
other media that can print out on the clear plastic. Just like
animators use in holywood. That way it will be like I have a green
screen for my artwork, and the scanner won't pick up the paper. Plus I
will be able to trace things even better than using tracing paper.
Have you ever heard of this kind of stuff? Because I'm not sure where
to even by these sorts of supplies, but they will be perfect!

trippy

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In article <1168309322.0...@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com>,
CoreyWhite took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said
"Oh Wow"...

404

--
trippy
mhm31x9 Smeeter#29 WSD#30
sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM

NP: "The American Way" -- Sacred Reich

"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."

-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"

Will Dockery

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trippy wrote:
> CoreyWhite took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said
> "Oh Wow"...
>
> > This is my vision of Olympiada in digital charcoal. I spent a few
> > hours visualizing how I imagined her to look, and found a photograph
> > that reminded me of my fantasy. She has been encouraging me lately to
> > focus on my art, and fantasies. So I got out my charcoal set, and drew
> > the photo as large as I was able to on a huge sheet of paper. I tride
> > my best to think about the photo as hard as I could and visualize
> > myself drawing it in my mind. But as usual my art is never good
> > enough. So what I did next created something I hope will be adaquet to
> > show you how I actually imagine okay.
> >
> > Once I scanned the image in I used an artistic technique I've created
> > to create a digital copy of it in photoshop. Then I blended in the
> > real photo with my artistic charcoal, so you can't tell there even was
> > a real photo. It looks like truly digitally inspired artwork, they a
> > real artist may as well have created. I just love this technique and I
> > hope you all take a look here: http://www.ckoogle.com/atlanta.gif
> >
> > If you have any GOOD criticisms let me know so I can continue to work
> > on my methods, and create even better works of interactive fantasy in
> > the future.
> >
> > Tell me what you think especially Atlanta. Does it look like you? ?
>
> 404

Yeah, there's nothing there... after all this build-up, let's see the
art!

--
Shadowville Speedway Blues

In a taxi watching a sporting house
Beside a Linwood vacant lot
Silverdollar moon portspotting
Constellation like a sailor's knot.

The sky was black, ink and glitter in the night
Train whine saxophone out beyond the light
I'm in love with a ghost blue turns to grey
Put a pyramid on my head to take my pain away.

Hazel knew the karma, she kept it in a bottle
Now I'm here on the receiving end
At least I still know how to take a joke
And laugh with none of my friends.

Brown Reculse magic drifting around the shed
Someone has it in for me I must not lose my head
Moving with the speedo life several with me left behind
Burned too many bridges defragmented my time.

Somewhere in time I've seen all this before
In a magazine or a dream of a distant war
Manifested destiny a manifesto and a part
All the actors still agree that ever had a heart.

The good book and the fortune telling lady
Black tooth mojo marked index cards
Bundles over the side of Dillingham Bridge
Splashing as ripples reflect from the stars.

Hazel knew the karma she kept it in a bottle
Now I'm here on the receiving end
At least I still know how to take a joke
And laugh with none of my friends.

-Will Dockery/Brian Fowler

"Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Will Dockery videos:
http://tinyurl.com/y4e67k

Beauty

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Never. I had him take it down, never to put it up again. I do not want
my visage plastered all over the Internet. It is gone now, never to
return. It was an error to allow him to do that. I must retain what
little shred of anonymity I have left. As an Orthodox laywoman I am not
allowed to be anonymous, however, I will retain all the privacy I have
left: from this moment out, my whole entire future!

Will Dockery

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> Never. I had him take it down, never to put it up again. I do not want
> my visage plastered all over the Internet. It is gone now, never to
> return. It was an error to allow him to do that. I must retain what
> little shred of anonymity I have left. As an Orthodox laywoman I am not
> allowed to be anonymous, however, I will retain all the privacy I have
> left: from this moment out, my whole entire future!

Adds an intriguing air of *mysterioso*, as well...

--

Beauty

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Look if you want to know about mysteries, hop on over to
alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox and learn about the Holy Mysteries,
ok? I write there. You can talk with me about God and Mystery there. I
am no mystery. I am a human being. God is the Mystery. Read The Orthodox
Way by Bishop Kallistos (Ware) published by Saint Vladimir's Seminary
Press. It has a whole chapter about God as Mystery. I think I will read
that when I get off the computer.

kest

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"Will Dockery" <will.d...@gmail.com> scrawled:

>
> trippy wrote:
>> CoreyWhite took the hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said
>> "Oh Wow"...
>
>> >

>> > Tell me what you think especially Atlanta. Does it look like you?
>> > ?
>>
>> 404
>
> Yeah, there's nothing there...

Well in that case, it seems totally accurate.

k

Will Dockery

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Beauty wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
> > Beauty wrote:
> >> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> >>> Yeah, there's nothing there... after all this build-up, let's see the
> >>> art!
> >>>
> >> Never. I had him take it down, never to put it up again. I do not want
> >> my visage plastered all over the Internet. It is gone now, never to
> >> return. It was an error to allow him to do that. I must retain what
> >> little shred of anonymity I have left. As an Orthodox laywoman I am not
> >> allowed to be anonymous, however, I will retain all the privacy I have
> >> left: from this moment out, my whole entire future!
> >
> > Adds an intriguing air of *mysterioso*, as well...
> >
> Look if you want to know about mysteries, hop on over to
> alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox and learn about the Holy Mysteries,
> ok? I write there. You can talk with me about God and Mystery there. I
> am no mystery. I am a human being. God is the Mystery. Read The Orthodox
> Way by Bishop Kallistos (Ware) published by Saint Vladimir's Seminary
> Press. It has a whole chapter about God as Mystery. I think I will read
> that when I get off the computer.

I'm familiar with, and written about (see the Google Groups archives)
the many Mysteries of God and all his friends, so I'll op in on the
group you name in the future and check out your thoughts... interesting
mysteries, no doubt.

John Ryder

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Sounds like an invite...:-)

Beauty

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I will research your writing as time allows. What is "Hasty Pudding"?
What is Docker-Conley? What are Will Dockery videos? I have a child and
do not have much time to research so I need you to explain things to me
before I go to the web and look them up. My newsgroups are more
important to me then the web right now.

Are you flattering me or teasing me or leading me on? I have not been
very popular on newsgroups up until this point in time and it is also
hard for me to trust anybody. Perhaps we could get to know each other
offline first. I am not saying that to lead you on but to simplify
things for myself. Having a public conversation is much more revealing
than a private conversation. And if you do choose to email me I ask for
personal confidentiality with our correspondence before I reply to your
initial email. I have had huge problems with a particular man in the
past and want to make sure I do not make the same mistake with you.

Beauty

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Yes I am inviting you there, and if you wish to write to me privately
you may also, if you give me personal confidentiality on our
correspondence.

Will Dockery

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Beauty wrote:
>
> I will research your writing as time allows. What is "Hasty Pudding"?
> What is Dockery-Conley?

"Hasty Pudding" is a song-poem written by Will Dockery (me) and Henry
Conley... my words, Henry's music.

> What are Will Dockery videos?

Performance videos, usually me backed by a band named the Shadowville
All-Stars.

> I have a child and
> do not have much time to research so I need you to explain things to me
> before I go to the web and look them up. My newsgroups are more
> important to me then the web right now.

Well, I agree, mostly... I spend most of my online time on the
newsgroups, and don't hit many links.

> Are you flattering me or teasing me or leading me on?

None of the above, really... you responded to me (or really responded
to /responders/ to me in another thread, and this led to me becoming
interested in me figuring out what you're all about... in fact, I might
well have asked /you/ the same questions you ask...

> I have not been
> very popular on newsgroups up until this point in time and it is also
> hard for me to trust anybody.

Well, I can't blame you, and actually say that's a good idea... I'm
just a poet with my heart on my sleeve, but no cards up it. I have no
agenda but the desire to communicate.

--
Shadowville Speedway Blues

-Will Dockery/Brian Fowler

"Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:

John Ryder

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(A bit of sound advice.)
Be real careful who you invite to your NG.

Troia

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John Ryder wrote:
> Beauty wrote:
>> John Ryder wrote:
>>> Beauty wrote:
>>>
>>>> Will Dockery wrote:
...

>>>>> Adds an intriguing air of *mysterioso*, as well...
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
>>>>> http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>>>>>
>>>>> Will Dockery videos:
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/y4e67k
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Look if you want to know about mysteries, hop on over to
>>>> alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox and learn about the Holy Mysteries,
>>>> ok? I write there. You can talk with me about God and Mystery there. I
>>>>
>>> Sounds like an invite...:-)
>>>
>>>
>> Yes I am inviting you there, and if you wish to write to me privately
>> you may also, if you give me personal confidentiality on our
>> correspondence.
>
> (A bit of sound advice.)
> Be real careful who you invite to your NG.
>

So how many k00k awards has Dockery won, in the last 2 yrs or so?

-- Troia

Beauty

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Will Dockery wrote:
>
>
> None of the above, really... you responded to me (or really responded
> to /responders/ to me in another thread, and this led to me becoming
> interested in me figuring out what you're all about... in fact, I might
> well have asked /you/ the same questions you ask...
>
So have you figured out what I am all about yet?

>
>> I have not been
>> very popular on newsgroups up until this point in time and it is also
>> hard for me to trust anybody.
>>
>
> Well, I can't blame you, and actually say that's a good idea... I'm
> just a poet with my heart on my sleeve, but no cards up it. I have no
> agenda but the desire to communicate.
>
> --
>
Well you sound like my type so let's communicate. Nice to meet you! I am
going to ask you some questions about your poem.
> Shadowville Speedway Blues
>
Is Shadowville Las Vegas? What is the Speedway?

> In a taxi watching a sporting house
> Beside a Linwood vacant lot
>
What is a "Linwood vacant lot"?
> Silverdollar moon portspotting
>
portspotting?

> Constellation like a sailor's knot.
>
> The sky was black, ink and glitter in the night
> Train whine saxophone out beyond the light
> I'm in love with a ghost blue turns to grey
> Put a pyramid on my head to take my pain away.
>
> Hazel knew the karma, she kept it in a bottle
> Now I'm here on the receiving end
> At least I still know how to take a joke
> And laugh with none of my friends.
>
> Brown Reculse magic drifting around the shed
>
Brown Recluse is slang for what drug or drink?

> Someone has it in for me I must not lose my head
> Moving with the speedo life several with me left behind
> Burned too many bridges defragmented my time.
>
> Somewhere in time I've seen all this before
> In a magazine or a dream of a distant war
> Manifested destiny a manifesto and a part
> All the actors still agree that ever had a heart.
>
> The good book and the fortune telling lady
> Black tooth mojo marked index cards
> Bundles over the side of Dillingham Bridge
>
Dillingham Bridge?

> Splashing as ripples reflect from the stars.
>
> Hazel knew the karma she kept it in a bottle
> Now I'm here on the receiving end
> At least I still know how to take a joke
> And laugh with none of my friends.
>
> -Will Dockery/Brian Fowler
>
> "Hasty Pudding" by Dockery-Conley:
> http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
>
> Will Dockery videos:
> http://tinyurl.com/y4e67k
>
Thanks, I will check our your links when I have time. I have a lot of NG
to catch up on.

NightMist

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Jan 17, 2007, 11:03:49 PM1/17/07
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Most of them.

NightMist

--
Come to the dark side.
We have cookies.

Tom

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"NightMist" <night...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:45aef17e...@news.madbbs.com...

Ever since kooks started handing out kook awards, they ceased to mean
anything to anyone except kooks.


Will Dockery

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Beauty wrote:
> Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > None of the above, really... you responded to me (or really responded
> > to /responders/ to me in another thread, and this led to me becoming
> > interested in me figuring out what you're all about... in fact, I might
> > well have asked /you/ the same questions you ask...
> >
> So have you figured out what I am all about yet?
> >
> >> I have not been
> >> very popular on newsgroups up until this point in time and it is also
> >> hard for me to trust anybody.
> >
> > Well, I can't blame you, and actually say that's a good idea... I'm
> > just a poet with my heart on my sleeve, but no cards up it. I have no
> > agenda but the desire to communicate.
> >
> Well you sound like my type so let's communicate. Nice to meet you!

Likewise!

> I am going to ask you some questions about your poem.
> > Shadowville Speedway Blues
> >
> Is Shadowville Las Vegas?

Shadowville is a small town in the south, creepy and gothic yet
littered with the cheesy claptrap of modern times... an alternate
reality with you find yourself asking:

"Is this the movie or the dream, or someplace in between?"

Wildwood Park, Shadowville:
http://www.patsabin.com/columbus/wildwoodpk_1910.jpg

Downtown Shadowville:
http://www.patsabin.com/columbus/First_Ave_1910.jpg

http://patsabin.com/columbus/13thStreet.jpg

Lower Broadway, Shadowville:
http://patsabin.com/columbus/lowerbroad.jpg

> What is the Speedway?

Literally, it refers to the old racetrack on what used to be the
outskirts of town, where even the ruins are covered by fast food joints
and houses... a "phantom" place that somehow still exists on another
level.

The heyday was late 1940s-early 1950s, when the "prehistoric" NASCAR
held some races there... by 1957 or so the Speedway was already history
in that way, and many years as nature reclaimed the space it was a
"lover's lane" and general meetup spot for teenagers and assorted
weirdos.

> > In a taxi watching a sporting house
> > Beside a Linwood vacant lot
> >
> What is a "Linwood vacant lot"?

http://www.historiclinwood.org/tour.htm

Another local reference, Linwood graveyard (giving the name to the
surrounding area of old houses, where underword characters like pimps
and hookers ply their trade)... coincidentally, the graveyard was
another meering spot for many of the young folks and oddballs.

> > Silverdollar moon portspotting
> >
> portspotting?

Observing sideways and hidden.

> > Constellation like a sailor's knot.
> >
> > The sky was black, ink and glitter in the night
> > Train whine saxophone out beyond the light
> > I'm in love with a ghost blue turns to grey
> > Put a pyramid on my head to take my pain away.
> >
> > Hazel knew the karma, she kept it in a bottle
> > Now I'm here on the receiving end
> > At least I still know how to take a joke
> > And laugh with none of my friends.
> >
> > Brown Reculse magic drifting around the shed
> >
> Brown Recluse is slang for what drug or drink?

The Brown Recluse is a particularly vicious spider, the lead character
in the poem suspects Hazel (who sometimes takes her practice of natural
and practical magick to obsessive extremes) may have "sent" them in one
way or another.

--
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_recluse_spider

"The brown recluse spider is a venomous spider, Loxosceles reclusa, of
the family Sicariidae (formerly of the family Loxoscelidae). It is
usually between ¼ and ¾ inch (6-20mm) but may grow larger. It is
brown and usually has markings on the dorsal side of its cephalothorax,
with a black line coming from it that looks like a violin with the neck
of the violin pointing to the rear of the spider, resulting in the
nickname "fiddleback spider" or "violin spider". [...] The brown
recluse spider is native to the United States from the southern Midwest
south to the Gulf of Mexico [2] The native range lies roughly south of
a line from southeastern Nebraska through southern Iowa, Illinois, and
Indiana to southwestern Ohio. In the southern states, it is native from
central Texas to western Georgia. They are generally not found west of
the Rocky Mountains.[3] A related species, the brown violin spider
(Loxosceles rufescens), is found in Hawai'i.[4]"

> > Someone has it in for me I must not lose my head
> > Moving with the speedo life several with me left behind
> > Burned too many bridges defragmented my time.
> >
> > Somewhere in time I've seen all this before
> > In a magazine or a dream of a distant war
> > Manifested destiny a manifesto and a part
> > All the actors still agree that ever had a heart.
> >
> > The good book and the fortune telling lady
> > Black tooth mojo marked index cards
> > Bundles over the side of Dillingham Bridge
> >
> Dillingham Bridge?

http://patsabin.com/columbus/dillingham.jpg

> > Splashing as ripples reflect from the stars.
> >
> > Hazel knew the karma she kept it in a bottle
> > Now I'm here on the receiving end
> > At least I still know how to take a joke
> > And laugh with none of my friends.
> >
> > -Will Dockery/Brian Fowler
> >

> Thanks, I will check our your links when I have time. I have a lot of NG
> to catch up on.

And thanks for the comments/questions on the poem, Beauty!

--
Hasty Pudding

Moving fast but never going anywhere.
Snakeoil barker with no fixed address
Moving fast but going nowhere.
Took a vacation to Shadowville
But nobody ever seen him there.

Mad Hatter in a dunkin' booth
Sneering insults and jeers.
Poet-clown of ill repute
swilled a few too many beers.
He co-opted Lord Byron's swagger
hiding behind crocodile tears.

[interlude]
Doc's talking to himself again
But he never listens.
Just waiting for the night to come
The moon lies but he likes the way she glistens.

Indian Batter's at the plate
Swinging high and wide.
Freakshow escapee
He strikes out and he swallows his pride.
Calls out for another boilermaker
Invisible Rat Pack at his side.

Doolittle ripped up the poem
Threw it into the creek.
Holding conversations with snakes and spiders
And things that never sleep.
They said what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
So he breathes a sigh of relief.

[interlude]
Doc's walking through the same alley again
But this time with good humor.
His crest is a big blue question mark
As he launches this weeks rumor...

Hasty Pudding
Making one last delivery around the horn.
Signpainter for the underworld
He was created but never born.
Jesus turned his tapwater to George Dickel
It keeps him safe and warm.

-Will Dockery/Henry Conley

J.R's death and resurrection show.

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On Jan 16, 12:37 am, Beauty <amkemail2006-b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> John Ryder wrote:
> > Beauty wrote:

> > Sounds like an invite...:-)Yes I am inviting you there, and if you wish to write to me privately


> you may also, if you give me personal confidentiality on our

> correspondence.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Well, I took Beauty's invite an slid on over to
alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox..
Only to find that ole Beauty aka Atlanta, aka Olympiada Kane has been..
Excommunicated.<Shock Horror> For trolling..:-)
So does "truth = Beauty"..In this case, I guess not.

Beauty

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Jan 26, 2007, 4:29:24 PM1/26/07
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I was excommunicated by the ruling bishop and reinstated at my request
when that bishop retired. However that bishop feels it was an error to
reinstate me. I had wished him to reinstate me, and he has not yet,
although the Church has. People are fomenting for the Church to
excommunicate me again. I am struggling with the Church right now and
her rules and authority. If you wish to discuss this further, please
strip the cross posting and keep it to alt.gothic.
I have no need to troll. Someone has captured my heart much to my
consternation and I have given it to him and can not take it back and he
has not released me from his service. Furthermore I do not believe women
should troll for men, that's not proper.
Can you please introduce yourself to the group? Thanks.
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David Weinshenker

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Beauty wrote:
>
> J.R's death and resurrection show. wrote:
> > [ snip ]

> Can you please introduce yourself to the group? Thanks.

Which group? It looks like the prior message was cross-posted
all over the place... generally best not to respond in all the
groups; sometimes such x-posting is an attempt (successful or
not) to stir up inter-group flamewars!

-dave w

fOuRjAw

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On Jan 26, 10:24 pm, Doctor wrote:
> On 26 Jan 2007 12:42:11 -0800, "J.R's death and resurrection show."

> >So does "truth = Beauty"..In this case, I guess not.Watz up Mr. Jaw?- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Have we met?

Beauty

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Jan 26, 2007, 5:42:33 PM1/26/07
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Sorry. S.S.B.B. John Ryder, please introduce yourself in S.S.B.B.
John, is your email address valid? Are you subscribing to s.s.b.b.?
How are you dave?

Beauty

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No. My name is Beauty, pleased to meet you. How are you today?

fOuRjAw

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> > Have we met?No. My name is Beauty, pleased to meet you. How are you today?- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Gee, your a keen little ting.

Beauty

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Do you find me discreet, gracious and pleasant and an exemplary woman?
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Beauty

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Doctor wrote:
> LOL Nutcase at it's finest.
>
> Jaw, we seem to have the same taste for crazys.
>
You consider good manners to be nutty? Would you like me to speak in
Russian instead? Would that be more pleasing to you? Teach me how to
type in Russian and I shall greet you in Russian.
Tell, me what was crazy in my polite greeting to you?
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Beauty

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Doctor wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:51:54 GMT, Beauty <amkemail...@yahoo.com>
> Is that what they call it where you come from?
>
That is called good manners. May I ask where it is that you come from?
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Beauty

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Jan 26, 2007, 6:26:34 PM1/26/07
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Doctor wrote:
> ? ????? ?? lunatic. ?? ?????? ??????????? naked?
>
Calling me a lunatic and desiring to see me naked will get you the cold
shoulder immediately.
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Beauty

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Jan 26, 2007, 6:30:05 PM1/26/07
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Doctor wrote:
> Russia.
>
Do you know what a matushka is?

huey.c...@gmail.com

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Jan 26, 2007, 6:32:40 PM1/26/07
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In soc.subculture.bondage-bdsm blu <n...@this.tm> wrote:
> Doctor wrote <45c38dba...@news.alt.net>:

> > Beauty <amkemail...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> You consider good manners to be nutty? Would you like me to speak
> >> in Russian instead? Would that be more pleasing to you? Teach me
> >> how to type in Russian and I shall greet you in Russian. Tell, me
> >> what was crazy in my polite greeting to you?
> >
> > ? ????? ?? lunatic. ?? ?????? ??????????? naked?
>
> ???? asparagus ?????????? chalk ????? shoe horn ?

????? ?? ? fume hood ??? ???? ?????????? nitrogen cylinder ???
?????????? ???? ordinary laptop battery ??? ?

--
Huey

Troia

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Jan 26, 2007, 6:34:54 PM1/26/07
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Doctor wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:43:12 GMT, Beauty <amkemail...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> LOL Nutcase at it's finest.
>
> Jaw, we seem to have the same taste for crazys.

Well, you're on target, but how about taking it out of ssb-b, which is
for kinky folk, and not in the sense of "we are kinked to like crazies".

After all, the only reason she's got this xposted at all is to try to
disrupt ssb-b by bringing in people who have no interest in the topics
addressed in the charter.

Thanks.

-- Troia


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Troia

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Jan 26, 2007, 6:45:38 PM1/26/07
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blu wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:24:57 +0000, Doctor wrote
> <45c38dba...@news.alt.net>:

>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:17:39 GMT, Beauty <amkemail...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> ? ????? ?? lunatic. ?? ?????? ??????????? naked?
>
> ???? asparagus ?????????? chalk ????? shoe horn ?
>
Too pervy for here! (Though we have been known to use one of those long
leather-covered shoehorns.)

So are there balls-of-steel too?

And you wouldn't be *that* tm, would you?

-- Troia

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Beauty

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Jan 26, 2007, 6:51:37 PM1/26/07
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Doctor wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:30:05 GMT, Beauty <amkemail...@yahoo.com>
> An honorable little mother.
>
Thank you for defining that for the group. An honorable little mother is
discreet, gracious and pleasant and an example. So what do you consider
to be honorable?
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Beauty

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Jan 26, 2007, 7:36:53 PM1/26/07
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Doctor wrote:
> Anyone who want's to be tied up and slapped around is crazy.

>
>> After all, the only reason she's got this xposted at all is to try to
>> disrupt ssb-b by bringing in people who have no interest in the topics
>> addressed in the charter.
>>
>>
> That's the deal? That sneaky little shit.
>
I did not cross post this Troia, someone else did. I don't cross post to
s.s.b.b. as a personal rule. Are you going to continue to defame me?
*Your* ISP is watching. I abide by the charter. I have memorized it. Do
you abide by the charter?
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NightMist

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Jan 26, 2007, 8:18:15 PM1/26/07
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On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:29:24 GMT, Beauty <amkemail...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>J.R's death and resurrection show. wrote:
>> On Jan 16, 12:37 am, Beauty <amkemail2006-b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> John Ryder wrote:
>>>
>>>> Beauty wrote:
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>> Sounds like an invite...:-)Yes I am inviting you there, and if you wish to write to me privately
>>>>
>>> you may also, if you give me personal confidentiality on our
>>> correspondence.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>>>
>>
>> Well, I took Beauty's invite an slid on over to
>> alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox..
>> Only to find that ole Beauty aka Atlanta, aka Olympiada Kane has been..
>> Excommunicated.<Shock Horror> For trolling..:-)
>> So does "truth = Beauty"..In this case, I guess not.
>>
>>

>I was excommunicated by the ruling bishop and reinstated at my request
>when that bishop retired. However that bishop feels it was an error to
>reinstate me. I had wished him to reinstate me, and he has not yet,
>although the Church has. People are fomenting for the Church to
>excommunicate me again. I am struggling with the Church right now and
>her rules and authority. If you wish to discuss this further, please
>strip the cross posting and keep it to alt.gothic.
>I have no need to troll. Someone has captured my heart much to my
>consternation and I have given it to him and can not take it back and he
>has not released me from his service. Furthermore I do not believe women
>should troll for men, that's not proper.
>Can you please introduce yourself to the group? Thanks.

Gotta break PISS just to get some clarification here......

You did this Atlanta?

When I saw blu show up next door and with what topic, I was thinking
that maybe she had gotten bored and randomly zeroed in on someones
careless use of the word netkkop. But you asked her, and John, and
who else cher?

NightMist
--
Come to the dark side.
We have cookies.

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Beauty

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Jan 26, 2007, 10:37:23 PM1/26/07
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What does this term "tm" mean. I have been googling it for weeks if not
months and still don't get it in regards to how you use it.

Beauty

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Jan 26, 2007, 10:42:13 PM1/26/07
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Doctor wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:51:37 GMT, Beauty <amkemail...@yahoo.com>
> Someone who sends me cash with no questions asked.
>
In that case, keep looking for a matushka cause you can't have me.

Beauty

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Jan 26, 2007, 11:08:57 PM1/26/07
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I do not know who John Ryder is. I think he is a nym. I request that you
call off the PISS in s.s.b.b. immediately. I did not ask blu here
either. I take it she does not like me, but I could be wrong. John Ryder
sent this post out, not me.
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David Weinshenker

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Jan 27, 2007, 12:01:35 AM1/27/07
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[ "newsgroups:" trimmed to s.s.b.b ]

mady wrote:
>
> Beauty wrote:
> > [something]
>
> You're crossposting all over the place you [expl. del.]!

Did you need to do the same? (I believe
she is reading this NG...)

-dave w

Beauty

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Jan 27, 2007, 12:18:00 AM1/27/07
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mady wrote:

> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 04:08:57 GMT, Beauty <amkemail...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> I do not know who John Ryder is. I think he is a nym. I request that you
>> call off the PISS in s.s.b.b. immediately. I did not ask blu here
>> either. I take it she does not like me, but I could be wrong. John Ryder
>> sent this post out, not me.
>>
>
> Trim your fucking headers! You're crossposting all over the place you
> dimwit!
>
> mady
>
I did not crosspost, mady, he did. I trimmed the other four.

coyote

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Jan 27, 2007, 12:36:10 AM1/27/07
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Can resume the PISS please?

--
~coyote

Ruth Lawrence

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Jan 27, 2007, 1:16:09 AM1/27/07
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"coyote" <coyot...@covert-ops.org> wrote in message
news:12rlp67...@news.supernews.com...

> Can resume the PISS please?

Seconded.

Ruth


Beauty

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Jan 27, 2007, 1:18:24 AM1/27/07
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I am. Will you support me dave? Coyote and Ruth are pissing on me again.
I am still reading this group. My dom asked me to write here for him.

Troia

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Jan 27, 2007, 1:36:03 AM1/27/07
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coyote wrote:
> Can resume the PISS please?
>

Oops, the extra cross-posts were below the visible headers on compose,
at least here.

(Gotta go see how many carried over!)

-- Troia
snipped alt.pagan

coyote

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Jan 27, 2007, 2:40:08 AM1/27/07
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Oh, hell, I thought I took all of them out, but one stayed under the
gizmo where I did not see it. Fuckity. I did not mean to do that.

--
~coyote

Troia

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Jan 27, 2007, 3:37:48 AM1/27/07
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See? See seee seeee???

You can do the same exact thing I did!

Seeeeeee????

-- Troia

Brian G (Upstairs)

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Jan 27, 2007, 5:16:11 AM1/27/07
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Has anyone ever died of boredom? I think this thread is doing a controlled
test.

And now, just imagine you are looking at a picture of a windmill rotating
backed by a blue sky with fluffy little clouds and birds singing. Take deep
breaths and say to yourself. I will not be drawn into this again, no matter
what is posted. I am calm and in control.

Damn, who is that strapped to the windmill blade!

Brian

--

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___________________________________________________________________________
I hope I grow on you....
I'm a Fungi!!!
Blind User, no pictures please!
mildew...@blueyonder.co.uk
___________________________________________________________________________
"blu" <n...@this.tm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.26.16.53.05.498294@utb...
> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:44:57 +0000, Doctor wrote
> <45cd9255...@news.alt.net>:


>
>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:27:42 +0000, blu <n...@this.tm> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:24:57 +0000, Doctor wrote
>>><45c38dba...@news.alt.net>:
>>>

>>>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:17:39 GMT, Beauty <amkemail...@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Doctor wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 22:43:12 GMT, Beauty

>>>>>> <amkemail...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fOuRjAw wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 26, 10:24 pm, Doctor wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On 26 Jan 2007 12:42:11 -0800, "J.R's death and resurrection

>>>>>>>>> show."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <wormholeal...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 16, 12:37 am, Beauty <amkemail2006-b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> John Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Beauty wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like an invite...:-)Yes I am inviting you there, and if
>>>>>>>>>>>> you wish to write to me privately
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> you may also, if you give me personal confidentiality on our
>>>>>>>>>>> correspondence.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, I took Beauty's invite an slid on over to
>>>>>>>>>> alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox.. Only to find that ole
>>>>>>>>>> Beauty aka Atlanta, aka Olympiada Kane has been..
>>>>>>>>>> Excommunicated.<Shock Horror> For trolling..:-) So does "truth =

>>>>>>>>>> Beauty"..In this case, I guess not.Watz up Mr. Jaw?- Hide quoted


>>>>>>>>>> text -- Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Have we met?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No. My name is Beauty, pleased to meet you. How are you today?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL Nutcase at it's finest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jaw, we seem to have the same taste for crazys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>You consider good manners to be nutty? Would you like me to speak in
>>>>>Russian instead? Would that be more pleasing to you? Teach me how to
>>>>>type in Russian and I shall greet you in Russian. Tell, me what was
>>>>>crazy in my polite greeting to you?
>>>>
>>>> ? ????? ?? lunatic. ?? ?????? ??????????? naked?
>>>
>>>???? asparagus ?????????? chalk ????? shoe horn ?
>>

>> I tred to post in Russian, but it came out like that.
>
> "ornhgl" vf n pbhcyr orref fubeg bs n fvk cnpx
>
> --
> blu*goddess.of.groundhogs*juju
> blu 3=3
> master of irrelevance
> Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
> -Jim Morrison http://blu05.port5.com/


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J.R's death and resurrection show.

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On Jan 26, 11:19 pm, Doctor wrote:
> On 26 Jan 2007 14:40:12 -0800, "fOuRjAw" <wormholeal...@hushmail.com>


> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Jan 26, 10:24 pm, Doctor wrote:
> >> On 26 Jan 2007 12:42:11 -0800, "J.R's death and resurrection show."
>
> >> <wormholeal...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >On Jan 16, 12:37 am, Beauty <amkemail2006-b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> John Ryder wrote:
> >> >> > Beauty wrote:
>
> >> >> > Sounds like an invite...:-)Yes I am inviting you there, and if you wish to write to me privately
> >> >> you may also, if you give me personal confidentiality on our
> >> >> correspondence.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>
> >> >Well, I took Beauty's invite an slid on over to
> >> >alt.religion.christian.east-orthodox..
> >> >Only to find that ole Beauty aka Atlanta, aka Olympiada Kane has been..
> >> >Excommunicated.<Shock Horror> For trolling..:-)
> >> >So does "truth = Beauty"..In this case, I guess not.Watz up Mr. Jaw?- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
>

> >Have we met?Yup L@mEy- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Thought so..
Just that makes 2 in 2 dayz...
Oww shit....Wotever....:-)

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On Jan 27, 4:08 am, Beauty <amkemail2006-b...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> NightMist wrote:

> > On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:29:24 GMT, Beauty <amkemail2006-b...@yahoo.com>

> > NightMistI do not know who John Ryder is. I think he is a nym. I request that you

Hello..

> call off the PISS in s.s.b.b. immediately. I did not ask blu here
> either. I take it she does not like me, but I could be wrong. John Ryder

> sent this post out, not me.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Well, thats not strictly true, is it?
I was replying to a post dat yous made.

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Jan 27, 2007, 12:40:56 PM1/27/07
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blu wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 04:08:57 +0000, Beauty wrote
> <tfAuh.27362$sR.2...@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>:

>
>
>> NightMist wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:29:24 GMT, Beauty <amkemail...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>
> <snip for brevity>

>
>
>>> Gotta break PISS just to get some clarification here......
>>>
>>> You did this Atlanta?
>>>
>>> When I saw blu show up next door and with what topic, I was thinking
>>> that maybe she had gotten bored and randomly zeroed in on someones
>>> careless use of the word netkkop. But you asked her, and John, and who
>>> else cher?
>>>
>>> NightMist
>>>
>>>
>> I do not know who John Ryder is. I think he is a nym. I request that you
>> call off the PISS in s.s.b.b. immediately. I did not ask blu here
>> either. I take it she does not like me, but I could be wrong. John Ryder
>> sent this post out, not me.
>>
>
> (ok, I'll go along with you playing dumb .. why not?)
>
> FYI: You are not wrong that I don't like you. I haven't liked you from the
> day you showed up om alt.magick with your idiotic claims and your temper
> tantrums. You know damn well who John Ryder is. You've been dry-humping
> everything with the possibility of a penis in 4 groups for months now.
> (what happened to *plonking* me?? you were supposed to have done that back
> in October/November. another lie?)
>
You are abusive. See this? Father? She is abusive. I have no idea who
John Ryder is. You have been defaming and harassing me for just as long.
I don't do plonking. What is this plonk thing in this culture? Most
unChristian.
> FYI2: You don't have to "ask" anyone here. This is usenet. Deal with it.
>
You don't have authority over me. Deal with that.
> FYI3: I'm still of the opinion that you're either seriously mentally ill
> or a *very* thorough troll with entirely too much time on his/her hands.
> Possibly both. But, I'm leaning toward the second option. Either way,
> you've got to be the biggest attention whore I've run across in years.
>
>
All three are wrong. I am not trying to garner attention. I already told
you that is why I changed my nym. I don't want the attention. How ever,
being an attractive woman, I get attention no matter where I go, even
without putting on makeup and fancy clothes.
You may continue to defame and harass me if you like.
If you believe in plonking, you do it. But no, you just want to bitch.
So are you a poodle, or, a pit bull? See this subject? I did not write
it, Corey did. Your beef is with Corey, not me. I am not writing in
alt.magick. So why on earth are you foaming at me in alt.gothic?

Beauty

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Jan 27, 2007, 12:46:56 PM1/27/07
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No, I did not create this post, Corey White did. Who cares, this he said
she said is infinitely boring.
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> > I was replying to a post dat yous made.No, I did not create this post, Corey White did. Who cares, this he said
> she said is infinitely boring.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Seems your not to popular wherever you go. huh?

Beauty

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Jan 27, 2007, 2:55:20 PM1/27/07
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Cyote wrote:
> I do, and you'll do as you're told.
>
Are you a nym of a nym? This sounds familiar. Are you truly my master,
or are you playing at being my master?

>
>>> FYI3: I'm still of the opinion that you're either seriously mentally ill
>>> or a *very* thorough troll with entirely too much time on his/her hands.
>>> Possibly both. But, I'm leaning toward the second option. Either way,
>>> you've got to be the biggest attention whore I've run across in years.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> All three are wrong. I am not trying to garner attention. I already told
>> you that is why I changed my nym. I don't want the attention. How ever,
>> being an attractive woman, I get attention no matter where I go, even
>> without putting on makeup and fancy clothes.
>>
>
> They call them whores where I come from.
>
So what can I do to change my appearance in your eyes?

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