> I know this is a ridiculous suggestion, but bear with me. I have this
> crazy notion to talk about spanking, not politics, not diets, not
> trolls, but spanking. Call me silly, but that's about 90% of the
> reason that I have opened this newsgroup, and ASS, for more than nine
> years.
>
I have been feeling the same way, and coming here lately has made me quite
cranky. I nEEd spanking talk, spanking flirtations, spanking inspiration -
and of course spanking. Call me obsessed... And I won't mind. :)
Puts on blindfold, and spins in a circle, and chooses the topic that I like
best!
> 2. At what age did you first have the urge to spank or be spanked for
> fun, pleasure, urgent need or something other than being spanked cuz
> you were a kid being punished or an adult, semi-adult punishing a kid
> for being bad? I was four or five years old when I got involved with
> my first spanking play. It was with the little girl next door, Susan
> R., who was the same age as I and who just loved to spank and be
> spanked for fun. Are you out there reading Susan? If so, thanks!
>
I can remember being very young, and doing odd things - like sitting in my
closet. I would sit in my closet and pretend that I had been "PUNISHED" and
put in the closet.. I was locked up! A very very bad person! Sitting
in the closet made me feel good. It's hard to describe this good feeling,
but it is very similar to the feeling I get now when I am anticipating a
spanking. It's sort of scary and exciting, and your heart beats fast, and
you feel excited all over - and then and now, that feeling would make me
sneeze.
I also can remember being pre-school age, and playing school with my dolls.
I had some idea about school because my older brother went to kindergarten,
and I had seen the inside of the classrooms, and had seen TV shows and stuff
about school. I had a pretty good idea about things - like behaving in
school and what might happen if you were bad in school. My play pretty much
centered around my dolls being bad and getting punished. Sure, to make it
look good, I would give them tests, and hand out papers, and write on my
blackboard and all that, but the main theme was - one of these dolls was
going to get in trouble and get punished. I remember that I had certain
dolls that got spanked more than others. Raggedy Andy was my bad boy with
removable pants, and the Corn Chex scarecrow was very naughty as well. My
favorite stuffed animal -the pink bunny "bun" was always good and got the
best grades, and I could never bring myself to punish Raggedy Ann though the
principal might. <G> Then there were the rest of "my class", who had good
days and bad days.
Amazing how thrilling that was - and at some point in my little play, I
wanted to act out the punishments - sticking a doll in the corner didn't
quite feel good enough, so I would switch with the doll, and stand in the
corner myself.
I remember quite vividly being about that age, and lifting up my own dress
and taking down my panties, and laying across the bottom of the bed, and
imagining being spanked. That felt even better and naughtier than sitting
in the closet. Basically - that was when I was hooked. I knew what I
liked, I knew what gave me that feeling, and I just couldn¹t stop myself
from pretending that way.
Looking back, I can see how I was driven to play this way by some internal
need. It reminds me very much of how other people describe masturbating.
They see something that excites them, they return to their room, they look
through the "dangerous" books and magazines, they masturbate - then they
toss the magazine away disgustedly and promise themselves not to do it
again... Only to do it again the next night.
Basically that is how it worked for me as I got older with my spanking
fantasies. I would see something on TV, or witness something at school that
would trigger the need to pretend. When I got home I would purposely find
myself alone in my room. I might read through some of my favorite books
that had punishment themes, I might decide to sit at my desk and pretend to
write sentences and get that "punished" feeling. I might act out a scene
where I smacked my own hands with a ruler, or put gum on the end of my nose.
I would do a variety of very innocent things, all building up the feelings,
all things that could easily be explained away as just pretending or playing
school, until finally I found myself face down, with my bottom bared and
propped up on pillows actually imagining I was being spanked. Eventually -
with years and years of doing this, I started to masturbate at this final
stage. Then, there was always the guilt - and the promises never to play
that way again, and wondering what on earth was wrong with me.
I never stopped though - ever, and don't imagine I ever will.
:)
z
--
" Ru Ru Ru Ru RU RU RU!" ~ Dino Flintstone
http://www.smilingwithteeth.com/
>On 12/11/03 10:38 AM, "BOTNGBs" said:
>
>> I know this is a ridiculous suggestion, but bear with me. I have this
>> crazy notion to talk about spanking, not politics, not diets, not
>> trolls, but spanking. Call me silly, but that's about 90% of the
>> reason that I have opened this newsgroup, and ASS, for more than nine
>> years.
>>
THANK YOU - THANK YOU - THANK YOU - THANK YOU - THANK YOU - THANK YOU -
THANK YOU - THANK YOU - THANK YOU
My question is how many of you are also into bondage?
Like me did some of that happen because they are better organized with
munches and parties than we are?
Tyr
--
Tyr is the Norse god who talked the wolf
that was going to destroy the world into
being tied up in unbreakable chains.
> I have this
>crazy notion to talk about spanking,
Spanktalkspanktalkspanktalkspanktalkspanktalkspanktalkspanktalkspanktalksp
ankingsssssssssss... <BG>
I know the above is in no way original as teasing brattiness, (in fact, I seem
to remember...Kess?...doing the same thing some time ago when such a thread was
proposed. :) LOL
But I wanted to try it myself.
I don't have specifics (yet) to your great questions, Larry, but I wanted to
acknowledge your attempt to get some more on topic stuff going on. Hopefully,
I'll reply further to this thread, and share some spanking insights of my own.
Thanks mucho for sharing with us, Larry.
Court
"Barrister" <Barr...@Assville.com> wrote in message
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> I know this is a ridiculous suggestion, but bear with me. I have this
> crazy notion to talk about spanking, not politics, not diets, not
> trolls, but spanking. Call me silly, but that's about 90% of the
> reason that I have opened this newsgroup, and ASS, for more than nine
> years.>
How silly!! Spoken like a true Democrat. Hm, or would a Republican be more
likely to say that? <Scratches head>
> So, let's see, what can we discuss?
> 2. At what age did you first have the urge to spank or be spanked for
> fun, pleasure, urgent need or something other than being spanked cuz
> you were a kid being punished or an adult, semi-adult punishing a kid
> for being bad? I was four or five years old when I got involved with
> my first spanking play. It was with the little girl next door, Susan
> R., who was the same age as I and who just loved to spank and be
> spanked for fun. Are you out there reading Susan? If so, thanks!>
When I was a kid, my father used to threaten to spank but he rarely did. My
sister (who was four years older) and I used to joke about it and sometimes
play spanking games with each other. I began to think about spanking all the
time and in the 2nd grade, while playing "House," with some of the girls in
my class, I spanked my "daughters." They were twins, Robin and Andrea and I
really had a crush on them. So, I guess by the time I was in the 2nd grade,
I was a spanko.
> 3. Are you aroused while being spanked or only afterwards when the
> hard pain stops and the lingering tingling goes on? Me, when
> bottoming, I'm usually vigourously physically and emotionally aroused
> before the spanking, during the anticipatory phase, but only
> emotionally aroused during the actual spanking. Mr. Willie goes south
> during the actual spanking usually, unless he is actively being tended
> to. After the spanking, both physical and emotional arousal are at a
> peak. Is this different for men than for women? Tops, please feel
> free to answer from your experience with those whom you've spanked.>
It's been my experience that the majority of spankees probably fall into the
catagory of being very aroused before the spanking, and after the spanking.
That having been said, I've spanked women who were wetter than wet right
after a very hard session. As a TOP, I feel best when the spanking causes
extreme pleasure to the lady, although I freely admit I am a bit of a sadist
and the more she complains about being spanked, the more I enjoy it. This is
true as long as the "complaints" are not safe words.
> 4. How many of you like to incorporate what might be viewed as other
> kinks into your spanking play? I'm thinking of things like bondage,
> either mild such as handcuffs, or serious such as total immobility.
> How about gags? Enemas? Dildos or butt plugs. Other sources of pain
> such as nipple clamps or clothespins on genitals? Various pain
> inducing liquids or potions and creams? Anything else? How and when
> do you use them? Bonnie and I are partial to bondage, clips, clamps
> and such, potions and lotions and toys. I'm mentally into enemas, but
> rarely do it in real life.>
I view spanking as the cake and anal play and light bondage as the icing. I
tend to incorporate enemas into my spanking play, as well as ginger root. I
think there comes a time when either the bottom cannot take more spanking,
or my arm gets tired <g> and then I try and think of other forms of
discipline, such as the aforementioned. I played with handcuffs and leg and
arm restraints, and I also love to use butt plugs on naughty girls. When my
cheese slides off my cracker, I might dabble in pussy spanking as well as
breast slapping and nipple discipline.
> Well, there's four topics that might generate some spanking talk and
> increase the signal to noise ratio. Perhaps it will make me look
> forward again to opening up the newsgroup.>
> Barrister
Thanks Barrister for posting this subject. While it's not as exciting as
reading about the Florida voting laws, I guess this sort of topic does have
a place on this newsgroup....doesn't it?
Steven
> I know this is a ridiculous suggestion, but bear with me. I have this
> crazy notion to talk about spanking, not politics, not diets, not
> trolls, but spanking. Call me silly, but that's about 90% of the
> reason that I have opened this newsgroup, and ASS, for more than nine
> years.
pervert
>
> 4. How many of you like to incorporate what might be viewed as other
> kinks into your spanking play? I'm thinking of things like bondage,
> either mild such as handcuffs, or serious such as total immobility.
> How about gags? Enemas? Dildos or butt plugs. Other sources of pain
> such as nipple clamps or clothespins on genitals? Various pain
> inducing liquids or potions and creams? Anything else? How and when
> do you use them? Bonnie and I are partial to bondage, clips, clamps
> and such, potions and lotions and toys. I'm mentally into enemas, but
> rarely do it in real life.
So far, my spanking friends have mostly been into spanking
and my friends who are perverted in other ways have not been
interested in whacking me much. Hmm, what's a girl to do?
One extremely fun solution was to bottom simultaneously to 2
tops, one of whom was interested in tying me up and one of
whom was interested in whacking me. Hee hee. Talk about
feeling spoiled and pampered --- I was hogtied and anchored
to a suitcase (don't ask, just be impressed by
improvisation) while getting whacked with a riding crop, an
acrylic wand, and a leather paddle. I think suction cups
from a snake bite kit were also involved, if memory serves.
As was mild hair-pulling (head hair). Nipple clamps got
tried out, but only briefly. I could check the photos, but I
am too lazy.
Most other times, my spanko play has been pretty separate
from other pervy play, tho I think a thermometer made an
appearance once or twice.
Getting spanked while playing with a vibe would be fun, but
so far I've not had that opportunity.
On the rare occasions when I've spanked, it's been with
people who were mostly interested in being whacked only. At
least by me.
Molly B
Steven (smiling at Bonnie with teeth)
<bonni...@assville.com> wrote in message
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From a fairly early age ( think not long after I associated
masturbating and spanking), I started fantasizing about being spanked
on my pussy. This reminds me that when I first started masturbating,
I didn't touch myself. That came later when I was around 12 or so.
From 6 to 12, I would lay on my side and bend my top leg and move it
up and down. Sort of like cricket masturbating I guess. <g>
Now I really, really love being slapped lightly on my pussy. It just
about sends me through the roof.
Bonnie
To send me e-mail, remove everything after @ except rogers and com.
> 1. I'm a switch and I am still, after over fifty years of being a
> switch, still can't figure out what it is that causes me to feel like
> bottoming or topping at any given time. I seem to get into bottomish
> moods which last a few months, with some toppish episodes during that
> period, then, slowly, but surely, I'll slide into a toppish mood which
> will last a few months with some bottomish episodes during that
> period. Have other switches noticed this pattern or a different one?
> What's your take on this. Friends or acquaintances of switches feel
> free to join in.
Since leaving this group before I have ventured a little into bottoming. I
mainly wanted to experience a little bit of what I'd been dishing out,
didn't expect to like it. But boy, did I! (Butt boy?)
I suppose of late I've felt more bottomy than toppy. Might have to do with
stress levels.
Or it may have to do with the state of a relationship. To top, I have to be
more invested; like a voracious appetite, a need to possess my bottom. In
that mode, it's like I have electricity running up and down my spine, and
that's the major sensation I need.
On the bottom side, my attention is more on the sensations in my body, while
mentally my focus is on slower, warmer emotions. Desire to please. Feeling
of being posessed and accepted. Oddly, I don't need the investment I do to
top in order to bottom.
So my dearth of a partner may explain the bottomy state. Since I haven't had
a kinky SO since experimenting with bottoming, it will be interesting to see
how things ebb and flow.
> 2. At what age did you first have the urge to spank or be spanked for
> fun, pleasure, urgent need or something other than being spanked cuz
> you were a kid being punished or an adult, semi-adult punishing a kid
> for being bad? I was four or five years old when I got involved with
> my first spanking play. It was with the little girl next door, Susan
> R., who was the same age as I and who just loved to spank and be
> spanked for fun. Are you out there reading Susan? If so, thanks!
That's kind of spooky. I don't remember her name, and it wasn't spanking,
but I definitely can pinpoint my posterier fixation.
Kindergarten years. Bunch of kids kept by an older woman in the
neighborhood, once school let out for the day. She'd park on the couch to
watch her stories, we'd be left pretty much to ourselves.
This little "Our Gang" was run by the oldes girl, who was tall, skinny, and
bossy. And in retrospect, probably a budding kinkster. She would pick the
games we would play, and decreed that whoever lost had to bend over, drop
their pants, and display their naked bottoms for a count of five.
Though not the oldest, I was bigger and stronger than most. I recall only
having to wave my tail in the air once. Quite embarassing. The Queen never
lost, and delighted in presiding over her humiliation ceremonies.
Until one day, she did lose. Like a proper bully, she chickened out, running
to our keeper and affecting a tummy ache. Later, I had to go to the
bathroom, and as I walked past the bedroom, the Queen called out to me. I
entered, and got a glimpse of moon as she twisted (while lying on the bed)
and flashed her tail at me. Thinking quick, I pointed out that the rule was
a count of five. So, I got another flash, accompanied by
onetwothreefourfive, no longer than the first. Uh-uh, I said, you don't get
to count. So she gave me one of those looks that could kill, turned over on
her knees, put her head down on the bed to look at me, and pulled down her
pants, as I counted to five.
Naturally, her power was broken after that; and the gluteus displays ended.
Looking back, I realize that it was a bony little kid ass, but it was
glorious and forbidden sight then, and so is seared into my memory as round
and full. I also realize now she wanted to show it to me, and I suspect I
could have stretched out my count or even ventured a touch, but I wasn't yet
clever enough to realize that. It hadn't registered to me until what you
just said, but she's probably out in kinkdom right now.
> 3. Are you aroused while being spanked or only afterwards when the
> hard pain stops and the lingering tingling goes on? Me, when
> bottoming, I'm usually vigourously physically and emotionally aroused
> before the spanking, during the anticipatory phase, but only
> emotionally aroused during the actual spanking. Mr. Willie goes south
> during the actual spanking usually, unless he is actively being tended
> to. After the spanking, both physical and emotional arousal are at a
> peak. Is this different for men than for women? Tops, please feel
> free to answer from your experience with those whom you've spanked.
This is mostly my experience, too. Whether I'm topping or bottoming, I
rarely am erect during play without direct stimulation.
Women I've spanked often say they aren't aroused by the actual spanking, yet
when I venture a hand to check, they're often wet. Not that they're fibbing,
of course. It could be they're that way from the anticipation. More likely,
it's focus; like the old joke: "Headache bothering you? Drop an anvil on
your toe."
> 4. How many of you like to incorporate what might be viewed as other
> kinks into your spanking play? I'm thinking of things like bondage,
> either mild such as handcuffs, or serious such as total immobility.
> How about gags? Enemas? Dildos or butt plugs. Other sources of pain
> such as nipple clamps or clothespins on genitals? Various pain
> inducing liquids or potions and creams? Anything else? How and when
> do you use them? Bonnie and I are partial to bondage, clips, clamps
> and such, potions and lotions and toys. I'm mentally into enemas, but
> rarely do it in real life.
Pretty much always. Maybe when you find someone with whom you can share
spanking, you're less afraid to let other things peek out of the dark
side...
Bill
No, Barrister did not post any of the following but let's give
Bonnie credit for the nice try at giving the appearance of how
Barrister posts. Very nice try from that sick fuck control freak in
discouraging postings on weight control, politics, and any off topic
discussions here. As if I was fooled for two seconds by a fairly
decent attaempt to give the appearance of a Barrister posting.
> Barrister BONNIE WROTE THE ABOVE
Give it up Bonnie. You are not capable of coming accross as an
individual who shows intelligence in their posting style. Other than
that, nice try.
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Alpha Girl warrior Jennifer
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> I know this is a ridiculous suggestion, but bear with me. I have this
> crazy notion to talk about spanking, not politics, not diets, not
> trolls, but spanking. Call me silly, but that's about 90% of the
> reason that I have opened this newsgroup, and ASS, for more than nine
> years.
>
Outrageous! If you don't want to discuss voting, Bush, politics and other kinky
stuff, go and start your own group! After all, this is soc.*sexuality*.spanking!
> So, let's see, what can we discuss?
>
> 1. [switching moods]
I'm both at the same time. My topping mood is more aesthetic, the look, the feel
of a squirming girl, yelping as I turn her bum rosy with my hand as she
struggles over my knee. My bottoming is more emotional, there's a subspace that
I've only reached rarely that felt like I was flying that only escalated as the
endorphins kicked in. I've never had the opportunity, but I'm sure that I could
happily top someone while sitting on a well tenderised bottom.
> 2. [Age of first urges]
I can remember watching someone getting their mouth washed out with soap and
legs slapped in first grade. Like everybody else, I sort of giggled in both
amusement and fear, but I can remember another feeling of excitement and wanting
to see it happen again.
In fourth grade, I remember our teacher smacking a boy over a desk with his
short pants pulled up tight. I also remember a kids book that had some spanking
in it. I was excited by it and didn't know why. I couldn't understand why other
kids that were reading the same book didn't find that section interesting.
By the time I was in high school, I was hopelessly hooked. :-)
> 3. [Arousal]
I'm the same as you Barrister, except that I'm only physically excited
afterwards. Before, I'm heading (hopefully) into that subspace I talked about.
It's not really a sexual place, more a feeling of freedom and a feeling that
what is about to happen is inevitable. During, I'm focused on processing the
pain and coping with it and answering the unanswerable questions posed by my
punisher. Afterwards, BOING!!!
If I'm topping, then I'm hard from the get go... :-).
BTW, Why do they do that, you know, ask questions like "Why won't you behave?"
or "How many times do I have to spank you?". I don't know what to answer, and
whatever I say always seems to be wrong, and it doesn't stop them spanking me
anyway. Totally unfair if you ask me.
> 4. [Other kinks]
I've tried some simple bondage, with just my hands tied as I was OTK. I didn't
really like it, because part of my kink is having the Top control me directly.
That doesn't stop my fantasies, some of which have got very weird over time,
involving anal play, cross-dressing, diaper-play... but I always seem to come
back to a core spanking kink.
Topping, I seem to be fixated on the Colonel Blimp character harrumphing as the
naughty senior prefect bends herself over my knee, her pleated skirt short
enough to reveal creamy thighs. Her bum is already rosy from my spanks as I
slowly, very slowly, lower her knickers while making sure that she knows that
her bottom is bare and I can see *everything*. But that's soon forgotten as I
make sure all of her naughtiness is spanked away... :-).
> Well, there's four topics that might generate some spanking talk and
> increase the signal to noise ratio. Perhaps it will make me look
> forward again to opening up the newsgroup.
>
Well, if we must, but can we just have at least one grammar thread going?
Please?
--
wailer
"...for there is hope in two women, help in three women, strength in
four, joy in five, power in six and against seven, no gate may stand."
Sheri S. Tepper "Gibbon's Decline and Fall"
I DO I DO!!
Hi, My name is Deb and I'm a spanko..
hehehe
I remember at a very young age playing spanking games. I spanked all my dolls
and my sister's dolls too. She would get so mad at me. Hey there is some top
in me! My sister and I shared a room so most of my play was in my head. It
worked well. I would pretend I was being spanked for being naughty and then
being held and told I was a good girl again. As I got older the urge got
stronger. I needed to feel the pain so bad I couldn't stand it. I smacked my
self with a brush. It was great!! But nothing compared to a real OTK spanking.
I remember on the way back home from my weekend with Zoey Daddy and Uncle
Herbie thinking, life don't get any better then this! What more could I ask
for.
Threats get me aroused!! I love threats.
Anticipation is also great too.
Thanks for posting this Barrister it was fun.
hugs
Deb
> 2.
Judging from the responses, I apparently discovered my kink quite late in
life. The earliest memories of being aroused by spanking were around twelve
or so. I raided my (much older) brothers porn collection, read a letter in
a penthouse variations mag, and Pandora's box was opened, so to speak. I
don't think I've gone more than 30 minutes without thinking about it ever
since.
> 3.
Sadly, I've only found some, at best, moderately-kinky girls so far. No one
that wanted to do anything beyond some light slaps, ropes, etc. Nothing more
than light pink.
> 4.
I'm probably more into the bondage s/m side as opposed to just spankings. I
love restraints, and have a serious nipple fixation (pinching, twisting,
clamps...). I think I'm more into nipples and breasts than spanking, to be
honest. But just slightly ;-)
I am 100% a bottom. Compared to many of you I'm almost vanilla. I
haven't experienced pain severe enough to make sitting uncomfortable,
although I am aroused by many stories, even about fairly severe
spanking. I do have to have some noticeable pain before I can enjoy
it, but I can't imagine getting any pleasure from severe spanking. I'm
not submissive--I like my wife to call the shots, so to speak, but
spanking for me is never punishment or even pretend punishment. She
spanks me because we both enjoy it purely for the eroticism of it. I'm
not interested in calling her "ma'am," or anything like that.
I would consider being a top only if my wife convinced me she really
wanted it, but she has convinced me otherwise and I am fine with that.
I wouldn't get any enjoyment out of spanking anyone who didn't request
it.
It took me years to convince her that I would like to be spanked, but
she was so afraid of hurting me that for most of that time, all she
could muster were love taps. Since I finally did convince her,
however, she has gotten into it. She gets aroused from spanking me,
and she's not easily aroused. When she says things such as "One cheek
is red but the other is hardly red at all--let's see what we can do
about that!" I get very aroused, partially because I never expected to
hear things like that from her. I suspect that my telling her about
this NG made her realize that I was serious about spanking, so we are
both grateful to the group for that.
I like OTK hand and hairbrush spankings. We don't have any wooden
brushes, but oddly enough, we have had success with a smooth-backed
plastic brush and a chrome-encased brush. When I lie on the bed, I
like her to use my belts. I enjoy my rough-leather casual belt the
most. My smooth-leather dress belt hurts more, but I like it too.
We don't need to play to have good sex, which is good because sound
travels; our neighbors are just on the other side of the wall. So we
don't get to do it all that often.
I did have similar interests in spanking as many of you since I've
been a young child even though I was rarely spanked by my parents
(maybe two or three times).
Ro
Hang on, its been a bit queiet, and we have had those meds through the post
sillies, but I've not noticed much else different.
I do have a lot of blocks in place though, so maybe you see more than I. For
what it is worth, some other groups also seem to veer into Poly ticks and
as it US Poly ticks, I know little of it.
However, as Spanking is only a part of my kink, maybe I'm not so affected.
>
> So, let's see, what can we discuss?
>
> 1. I'm a switch and I am still, after over fifty years of being a
> switch, still can't figure out what it is that causes me to feel like
> bottoming or topping at any given time. I seem to get into bottomish
> moods which last a few months, with some toppish episodes during that
> period, then, slowly, but surely, I'll slide into a toppish mood which
> will last a few months with some bottomish episodes during that
> period. Have other switches noticed this pattern or a different one?
> What's your take on this. Friends or acquaintances of switches feel
> free to join in.
OK, mine seems to be completely random, and I suspect it has a lot to do
with the actions of any partners than anything else. I have had a very lean
kink period as well, by which I mean that real life and other people's
troubles take up more brain time than what i want or need does... I need to
change this a bit I think.
> 2. At what age did you first have the urge to spank or be spanked for
> fun, pleasure, urgent need or something other than being spanked cuz
> you were a kid being punished or an adult, semi-adult punishing a kid
> for being bad? I was four or five years old when I got involved with
> my first spanking play. It was with the little girl next door, Susan
> R., who was the same age as I and who just loved to spank and be
> spanked for fun. Are you out there reading Susan? If so, thanks!
Well, as I said, the spanking is not my core kink, that is bondage and I
suppose that little thrill of being at another person's mercy, or, when you
switch, doing the same to them. I can identify with the age though, but I
think it was even earlier that i realised some thrill from shall we say
unusual body sensations.
My first 'at the hands of another' experience was actually being rolled up
in a roll of wire netting and rolled about by a girl of around 7, so I was
probably around the same age. That deep naught laugh was there.
> 3. Are you aroused while being spanked or only afterwards when the
> hard pain stops and the lingering tingling goes on? Me, when
> bottoming, I'm usually vigorously physically and emotionally aroused
> before the spanking, during the anticipatory phase, but only
> emotionally aroused during the actual spanking. Mr. Willie goes south
> during the actual spanking usually, unless he is actively being tended
> to.
I'd go with that, but there are times when the emotional arousal is much the
better. ie, forbidden to be aroused while being physically aroused gets me
every time.
After the spanking, both physical and emotional arousal are at a
> peak. Is this different for men than for women? Tops, please feel
> free to answer from your experience with those whom you've spanked.
Well, from the limited topping I've actually done, I am warm and fuzzy
during it and almost proud and kind of warm after it if its had a good
effect. I have not, as yet, been allowed to let my inner sadist really rip,
which is something I'd like to have permission to try some time.
>
> 4. How many of you like to incorporate what might be viewed as other
> kinks into your spanking play? I'm thinking of things like bondage,
> either mild such as handcuffs, or serious such as total immobility.
> How about gags? Enemas? Dildos or butt plugs. Other sources of pain
> such as nipple clamps or clothespins on genitals? Various pain
> inducing liquids or potions and creams? Anything else? How and when
> do you use them? Bonnie and I are partial to bondage, clips, clamps
> and such, potions and lotions and toys. I'm mentally into enemas, but
> rarely do it in real life.
Well, enemas, and butt play is out for me, but the rest is open for
experimentation either way around. I was reminded of the need for warm ups
recently when nipple pain completely destroyed a scene as it slipped from
the OK to the bloody hell cold sweat territory, so I think as well as other
ways to play, technique is important.
> Well, there's four topics that might generate some spanking talk and
> increase the signal to noise ratio. Perhaps it will make me look
> forward again to opening up the newsgroup.
You left out role play, and games, which I really do want to explore more if
I can find a willy person on either end. You also left out preferred gender
of course. Some people are happy to indulge with same sex play, while
others, like myself find it a total no go area.
As I've said before, I think only some of this stuff is purely sexual, and a
lot of it is just old fashioned fun, also its a continuum, not just little
boxes for spanking or whatever. I've yet to figure out quite why there are
some clusters, like spanking though, and I can only assume it has something
to do with the nerves in certain parts of the body...:-)
> Barrister
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It's funny how such urges occur years before puberty.
I must have been about 6 when I first started fantacising about it.
I imagined that I had been so bad over time that I imagined my
bare legs were 'legs that had been smacked a million times'.
Quite a ridiculous notion of course, they were slapped at times
but I can't imagine what they would have looked like if they really
*had* been smacked a million times :)
Even at that age however I was wise enough to keep such fantasies
to myself, although it didn't stop me asking some rather bizzare
questions, like who invented whips and much later on probably about
age 10, why do you you go black and blue when beaten. I don't think
my Mum ever realised the significance of this, I guess kids often ask
rather odd questions.
I think the only time I ever felt anything other than pain during an
actual spanking was probably my last childhood one, probably
around 11. God knows what I had done but it was bedtime and I
got smacked on my legs through my pyjamas. It hurt a lot and was
kinda humiliating, but there was something else there too.........
I remember examining the red marks on my pale skin.
When I was in 7th grade I just decided one day to start writing sentences. I
wanted to pretend I was bad. Well, a friend asked me what I was doing and I
laughed and said, "I'm punishing myself. Remember when we had to write
sentences?" So, she asked me to give her a sentence assignment and I did.
This started a CRAZE in our 7th grade. There were about 15 or 20 of us who
were writing sentences. We would give each other writing assignments
(sometimes we had to write sentences with naughty words over and over!). I
never really figured out what the others got out of it -- I think some of
them liked the feeling of doing something that bad girls had to do, and some
just liked to practice their handwriting (remember how important it was to
have "cool" handwriting?). Either way, we all looked like a bunch of bad
little 13 year old girls. It rocked.
Angie
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"Clinton lied, and we got cum stains. Bush lies and we get blood stains."
Bumper Sticker
I've only had this one time but I fantasize about it a lot. In my fantasies
I'm always being punished for masturbating. Especially masturbating after
I've been forbidden to. (NOT THAT I WOULD EVER DO THAT!) I have to lay on
my back and spread my legs very wide -- sometimes I even have to hold them
apart -- and I either get a hand-spanking on my pussy or a light strapping
(light because it doesn't take much at ALL).
One time I had to go to sleep with a small dab of Vicks on my clit because I
whined too much about wanting to play. I was not allowed to rub. And that
made me so mad, because Vicks on the clit is absolutely delicious after the
burning subsides a little.
>At what age did you first have the urge to spank or be spanked for
>fun, pleasure, urgent need or something other than being spanked cuz
>you were a kid being punished or an adult, semi-adult punishing a kid
>for being bad?
I'm pretty sure mine hit in puberty...around 11 or so. Movies started it I
think, or at least put a "name" to what I had been thinking. I recall when I
was about 12 I was teasing an older boy (not sure his age but guess around 16)
and he said something about spanking me and I got all tongue tied and didn't
know what to do. I was flustered in a, what I can see now as, a good way.
Wish I knew to have acted on some of that stuff.
>Are you aroused while being spanked or only afterwards when the
>hard pain stops and the lingering tingling goes on?
I think my arousal comes from the dance of spanking rather than the spanking
itself. I love the verbal sparring, the teasing, the sparring, the threats. I
mean it can still twist my stomach if I'm not expecting it to be said. I just
don't do well usually getting spanked very very hard. Maybe also because it
has been a long time between visits with my spanking partner.
I love other elements of B&D but not combined with traditional spanking. :)
Fun to talk about it all.
Pam
Remove my panties before responding.
I absolutely love non-traditional spanking talk. In fact, that has replaced
traditional spanking as my masterbatory fodder lately. "Privates" spanking can
be fabulous. I don't even know what to say about this. Makes me so effing hot
to think about it and to actually have it happen is good too. Breasts and
pussy spanking. Hot words to me. I have a hard time having an orgasm (wish
*I* were a clit on legs Angie) but after a pussy session (NOT harsh by any
means) I have a better chance of coming (cumming). I have been shaved once
there and part of me felt so effing sexed up when it happened and part of me
hated the itch. :) But it did open me up to other things happening. I also
love my nipples to be "hurt" because it makes them oh so wonderfully sensitive.
I think that is why I liked Debporn and Swenporn. SO over the top yet right
what I liked. :)
Erm, excuse me. I feel an...urge. :)
Well, being Clit on Two Legs isn't all it's cracked up to be, but I can
certainly see how the opposite would be frustrating as hell. Being shaved
has had the same effect on me -- that naked skin is so aware of its
surroundings all the sudden. :-) But, yeah -- the itching sucks. As do
those sexy red bumps. Ick!
As far as breast stuff -- I can't even stand to think about it. I had a lump
removed almost two years ago and I still cringe at the thought of anything
hurting my breasts. When I came out of my vicodin haze after the surgery I
decided I didn't want them even TOUCHED until I had a baby. (However, a
little marijuana and I go nuts about having the nipples pinched and sucked.
OH MY GOD, Did I say that out LOUD? hehehe)
>1. I'm a switch and I am still, after over fifty years of being a
>switch, still can't figure out what it is that causes me to feel like
>bottoming or topping at any given time. I seem to get into bottomish
>moods which last a few months, with some toppish episodes during that
>period, then, slowly, but surely, I'll slide into a toppish mood which
>will last a few months with some bottomish episodes during that
>period. Have other switches noticed this pattern or a different one?
>What's your take on this. Friends or acquaintances of switches feel
>free to join in.
Well <grin> from my observation of you over the years <giggle> it
appears to me that you are responsive to repeated suggestions and that
on the occasions that we've been joshing a while about getting Bonnie
to give you what you need and deserve, despite your protestations of
current toppishness, somehow, you end up getting well and truly
spanked :-)
>2. At what age did you first have the urge to spank or be spanked for
>fun, pleasure, urgent need or something
You know.. I don't know. As long as I can remember I've found the
thought of spankings extremely interesting, but those spankings were
totally nothing to do with the odd smack I got from mother or school.
By 18 or 19 I was inveigling boyfriends to spank me, but I don't
remember when I actively began wanting to be spanked - certainly the
childhood fantasies I had were usually not ones I wanted - my
fantasies were of nasty schoolteachers, cruel orphanage matrons,
nannies - intractable authority figures. I found them exciting, but
I didn't want to experience them.
In my early teens I learned how to masturbate with the shower in the
bath (though I didn't think of it as masturbation - didn't realise it
was sexual till many years later) but the fantasy that played through
my head was that I was having to undergo this as a punishment.
Or maybe it was when I began reading bodice-rippers such as Mandingo
and the Angelique series that I actively began wanting to actually try
being spanked....
Don't remember....
>3. Are you aroused while being spanked or only afterwards when the
>hard pain stops and the lingering tingling goes on?
Depends - if the spanking is hard, but not too hard, if it builds up
rhythmically and steadily, then I can be aroused whilst being spanked,
to the point of orgasm. It's got to be done just right though.
If it's too hard then the arousal gets put on hold till after.
>4. How many of you like to incorporate what might be viewed as other
>kinks into your spanking play?
yes
> I'm thinking of things like bondage,
yes
>either mild such as handcuffs,
yes
> or serious such as total immobility.
yes
>How about gags? Enemas? Dildos or butt plugs.
yes, yes and yes
> Other sources of pain
>such as nipple clamps or clothespins on genitals?
yes and yes
> Various pain
>inducing liquids or potions and creams?
yes
> Anything else?
electricity play. vampire gloves. snakebite kits.
Dirty Doctor scene
Hmmm.... looking at my list of yeses - I guess I must be a pervert!
<grin>
> How and when
>do you use them?
Occasionally - when Master isn't too tired
> I'm mentally into enemas, but
>rarely do it in real life.
We've not done them often, but it's been interesting when we have
>Well, there's four topics that might generate some spanking talk and
>increase the signal to noise ratio. Perhaps it will make me look
>forward again to opening up the newsgroup.
thank you
love
domino
>I never stopped though - ever, and don't imagine I ever will.
I hope you never do.
Thank you for sharing so muc of yourself with us
love
domino
> I might dabble in pussy spanking as well as
>breast slapping and nipple discipline.
<nods> yes - I like those too.
I can come from having my pussy smacked, and from having my breasts
smacked and my nnipples tweaked, if it's done right.
love
domino
>My question is how many of you are also into bondage?
Waves hand - yep, me.
On the whole though, we're not really into the intricate
japanese-style bondage - that takes just too much time. We tend to go
for the more functional, quick-result thing.
>Like me did some of that happen because they are better organized with
>munches and parties than we are?
When I was in my (very) early twenties, I thought bondage was
something really weird perverts did and I had no inclination to try it
out.
Then a friend wanted to tie me to a chair, so I said I'd let him - and
it turned out to be a revelation :-)
love
domino
> I raided my (much older) brothers porn collection, read a letter in
>a penthouse variations mag, and Pandora's box was opened, so to speak. I
>don't think I've gone more than 30 minutes without thinking about it ever
>since.
That reminds me... when I was about ten or so I read a copy of the
Weekend Mail which was kinda a weekly news magazine. One of the
stories was of a man who had been up in court because he always
spanked his two daughters bare-bottom every sunday before church.
that fuelled my fantasies for years - the thought of a spanking given
routinely, for no reason other than 'just because' an adult deemed it
neccessary!!!! It was all the more real because we went to church
every sunday without fail, so I could really relate!
love
domino
>
> That reminds me... when I was about ten or so I read a copy of the
> Weekend Mail which was kinda a weekly news magazine. One of the
> stories was of a man who had been up in court because he always
> spanked his two daughters bare-bottom every sunday before church.
>
Oh! Oh! That excites me. Oh!
> that fuelled my fantasies for years - the thought of a spanking given
> routinely, for no reason other than 'just because' an adult deemed it
> neccessary!!!! It was all the more real because we went to church
> every sunday without fail, so I could really relate!
What a strict yet oddly fair father that was. I just had to respond, if
only to read your post over a few extra times.
I picture the girls in their Sunday best, pastel dresses that are fluffy and
lifted up to reveal a slip and underneath flowered panties. They were
probably wearing shiny black shoes like I wore to church at that age, and
white lace ankle socks. Imagine them sitting on the hard pews with their
bottoms all sore and red! I bet kneeling for them was almost a relief where
as for me, kneeling was a real pain. And to think - this happened every
Sunday without fail, "just because" and it probably helped them feel
penitent and like such good girls in the eyes of God!
I picture their Daddy taking them in turn right after he sat down on the
kitchen chair - before walking outside and heading down the street on the
short walk to church. Perhaps the younger girl would get spanked first
while the older one watched. He would tug them over his lap, lift up their
dresses and lower their panties right away...::gasp:: unless one of them
argued! Then he might stop for a moment, with his large hand resting on her
panties and explain for the 5Oth time that year, that despite what the judge
and jury might have said to the contrary, proper and caring fathers have
been doing this for generations, and that is exactly why the panties must
come down!
I wonder if he used a hairbrush as they got older?
OH!
Hugs,
z
Well <grin> from my observation of you over the years <giggle> it
appears to me that you are responsive to repeated suggestions and that
on the occasions that we've been joshing a while about getting Bonnie to
give you what you need and deserve, despite your protestations of
current toppishness, somehow, you end up getting well and truly spanked
:-)
I hadn't thought of this, but you're right. I'm not sure if it would
happen all the time, but if I've had a good run at topping and am just
coasting, repeated suggestions will get me thinking about bottoming and
the more I think about it, the more I ge shoved on that slippery slope
towards bottoming. You've given me that shove often.<G>
Barrister after Bonnie castrates him. The above is so Bonnie that even
her used tampon must be ready to flush.
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Alpha Girl warrior Jennifer
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>Oh! Oh! That excites me. Oh!
Me too :-)
>What a strict yet oddly fair father that was. I just had to respond, if
>only to read your post over a few extra times.
I was fascinated by the story - I hid the magazine (it was in my
grandmother's house) and kept re-reading it as long as I could till
either I forgot about it, or it wasn't there....
>I picture the girls in their Sunday best, pastel dresses that are fluffy and
>lifted up to reveal a slip and underneath flowered panties. They were
>probably wearing shiny black shoes like I wore to church at that age, and
>white lace ankle socks.
The article said something like the father said that it did them good
to walk down the street with there bottoms well and truly reddened.
> Imagine them sitting on the hard pews with their
>bottoms all sore and red! I bet kneeling for them was almost a relief where
>as for me, kneeling was a real pain.
yes indeed!
> And to think - this happened every
>Sunday without fail, "just because" and it probably helped them feel
>penitent and like such good girls in the eyes of God!
That's kind of the impression the article left me with - that this was
a kind of substitute for confession/penance - a purification ritual -
that all theie week's naughtiness was spanked out of them.
>I picture their Daddy taking them in turn right after he sat down on the
>kitchen chair - before walking outside and heading down the street on the
>short walk to church. Perhaps the younger girl would get spanked first
>while the older one watched.
Or maybe he did it side by side as they bent over the settee. Being
english, it's possible he used a slipper...
> He would tug them over his lap, lift up their
>dresses and lower their panties right away...::gasp:: unless one of them
>argued! Then he might stop for a moment, with his large hand resting on her
>panties and explain for the 5Oth time that year, that despite what the judge
>and jury might have said to the contrary, proper and caring fathers have
>been doing this for generations, and that is exactly why the panties must
>come down!
yes indeed
>I wonder if he used a hairbrush as they got older?
or a leather strap...
Hmmm!
love
domino
>I hadn't thought of this, but you're right.
<smile>
> I'm not sure if it would
>happen all the time, but if I've had a good run at topping and am just
>coasting, repeated suggestions will get me thinking about bottoming
>and the more I think about it, the more I ge shoved on that slippery
>slope towards bottoming. You've given me that shove often.<G>
Glad to be of service sir :-) But really of course, it only works
because you are *such* a naughty boy.
love
domino
I picture a very pretty Mommy watching and scolding as Daddy spanks. She has
her favorite long handled oval hairbrush in her hand, and is nicely dressed for
church. The girls are bawling and howling cause they know that when Daddy is
finished, Mommy will blister the backs of their legs, leaving many angry oval
welts for all to see.
Mommy orders the first culprit over her knee, all the while smiling at Daddy .
The girls are teens of course!
>I know this is a ridiculous suggestion, but bear with me. I have this
>crazy notion to talk about spanking, not politics, not diets, not
>trolls, but spanking. Call me silly, but that's about 90% of the
>reason that I have opened this newsgroup, and ASS, for more than nine
>years.
Completely ridiculous. Talk about SPANKING on soc.sexuality.spanking?
What's the world coming to?
>So, let's see, what can we discuss?
>1. I'm a switch and I am still, after over fifty years of being a
>switch, still can't figure out what it is that causes me to feel like
>bottoming or topping at any given time. I seem to get into bottomish
>moods which last a few months, with some toppish episodes during that
>period, then, slowly, but surely, I'll slide into a toppish mood which
>will last a few months with some bottomish episodes during that
>period. Have other switches noticed this pattern or a different one?
>What's your take on this. Friends or acquaintances of switches feel
>free to join in.
That sounds about right for me, too. Over the last three years or so
since I started playing for real, I've found that I go from being
almost completely bottomish to predominately (although never
completely) toppish, usually on a cycle of a few months at a time.
I'd never really thought of it before.
>2. At what age did you first have the urge to spank or be spanked for
>fun, pleasure, urgent need or something other than being spanked cuz
>you were a kid being punished or an adult, semi-adult punishing a kid
>for being bad?
I'd just turned thirty, and a guy I was dating asked me to let him
spank me. I'd never thought of it as anything that might be fun
before, and was surprised to realize that I was rather intrigued by
the idea, although I said "no" at the time. The relationship didn't
last, for other reasons, and over the next ten years spanking grew
from an intriguing idea to something I really wanted to do. Three
years ago, I actually did it for the first time, and was hooked. (Of
course.) :-)
>3. Are you aroused while being spanked or only afterwards when the
>hard pain stops and the lingering tingling goes on? Me, when
>bottoming, I'm usually vigourously physically and emotionally aroused
>before the spanking, during the anticipatory phase, but only
>emotionally aroused during the actual spanking. Mr. Willie goes south
>during the actual spanking usually, unless he is actively being tended
>to. After the spanking, both physical and emotional arousal are at a
>peak. Is this different for men than for women? Tops, please feel
>free to answer from your experience with those whom you've spanked.
I'm definitely aroused in anticipation most of the time, and during
the spanking. (We're talking about fun spankings here, not
disciplinary, of course.) Sometimes I'm even more aroused at the end
of a spanking, and sometimes I've calmed down -- usually after a very
hard, long spanking.
How aroused I am depends on who I'm playing with, of course, and
where. I'm not an exhibitionist, I guess; I just don't get as turned
on at a play party or around other people as in private.
>4. How many of you like to incorporate what might be viewed as other
>kinks into your spanking play? I'm thinking of things like bondage,
>either mild such as handcuffs, or serious such as total immobility.
>How about gags? Enemas? Dildos or butt plugs. Other sources of pain
>such as nipple clamps or clothespins on genitals? Various pain
>inducing liquids or potions and creams? Anything else? How and when
>do you use them? Bonnie and I are partial to bondage, clips, clamps
>and such, potions and lotions and toys. I'm mentally into enemas, but
>rarely do it in real life.
I haven't tried most of this. I'm a bit afraid to try restraints; I
had some childhood experiences with being restrained while being
beaten and my reactions to the idea are still negative enough that I
don't want to push it. I can't imagine trying a gag. The other stuff
might be fun, but to be honest doesn't really interest me. I like
spanking best just as itself. ;-)
>Well, there's four topics that might generate some spanking talk and
>increase the signal to noise ratio. Perhaps it will make me look
>forward again to opening up the newsgroup.
We can't have you burned out on the newsgroup, Barrister. ;-P
"There is no point in acting like a brat when
there is no one to spank you." -- tyr
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>I'm definitely a top, but I have a desire to try bottoming. Definitely not
>something I fantasize about (well, often, anyways), but much more than
>curious.
You should try it at least a couple of times -- for two reasons.
First, it will teach you stuff about what a bottom feels that you
can't learn any other way. Second, you might find you like it. :-)
I'm a switch, probably a bit more bottom than Top, but not much. I
love both spanking and being spanked. Can't imagine doing without
either one.
>Judging from the responses, I apparently discovered my kink quite late in
>life. The earliest memories of being aroused by spanking were around twelve
>or so. I raided my (much older) brothers porn collection, read a letter in
>a penthouse variations mag, and Pandora's box was opened, so to speak. I
>don't think I've gone more than 30 minutes without thinking about it ever
>since.
You too? It seems everyone else in here knew when they were young. I
didn't start to get interested til I was thirty or so, and it took me
another ten years to do anything about it.
>Sadly, I've only found some, at best, moderately-kinky girls so far. No one
>that wanted to do anything beyond some light slaps, ropes, etc. Nothing more
>than light pink.
A lot of women do want that, but not all of us. I like HARD spanking,
seriously hard most of the time, although I am not into a lot of other
kinky stuff with it. A couple of weeks ago, when I was visiting
Starship, I found I need more practice, though. I was so sensitive he
threatened to take my "pain slut" title away. ;-)
>I'm probably more into the bondage s/m side as opposed to just spankings. I
>love restraints, and have a serious nipple fixation (pinching, twisting,
>clamps...). I think I'm more into nipples and breasts than spanking, to be
>honest. But just slightly ;-)
Why choose? Find a woman who likes both too. ;o)
>You too? It seems everyone else in here knew when they were young. I
>didn't start to get interested til I was thirty or so, and it took me
>another ten years to do anything about it.
I do have to say I didn't know I was a spanko when I hit puberty (see my input
on when I knew I was a spanko). I just knew that spanking did something to me
and I got tingles hearing anything about it. For me that would be basically
the movies and once in a while I would see a playboy in someone's house where I
was babysitting and there would be stuff for sale in the back which would
include a spanking block. I still didn't really make a connection to spanking
being anything more than something in the movies. I only really made a
connection when I came online.
Angie wrote,
> Well, being Clit on Two Legs isn't all it's cracked up to be, but I can
> certainly see how the opposite would be frustrating as hell. Being shaved
> has had the same effect on me -- that naked skin is so aware of its
> surroundings all the sudden. :-) But, yeah -- the itching sucks. As do
> those sexy red bumps. Ick!
>
> As far as breast stuff -- I can't even stand to think about it. I had a
>lump removed almost two years ago and I still cringe at the thought of
anything
> hurting my breasts. When I came out of my vicodin haze after the surgery I
> decided I didn't want them even TOUCHED until I had a baby. (However, a
> little marijuana and I go nuts about having the nipples pinched and
sucked.
> OH MY GOD, Did I say that out LOUD? hehehe)
If you keep shaving, one, the itch pretty much lets up, and two, the hair
isn't
anywhere near as thick after a while. After four years of shaving, the hair
never covers up anything anymore, even when I let it grow out for a month.
Have you noticed how it feels in the shower after you're shaved? DAMN
that's good! I've never actually had a pussy spanking, but I wouldn't be
averse to it. <BG>
Angie, I was like you for a long time, I had a cyst removed five years ago,
and for the first year or so that I was online I was freaked about the
concept of having anything done to my breasts. Not sure I'd get into it
seriously, but I LOVE having my nipples played with, because they're the one
part that's highly sensitive. Ever have vibrating nipple clamps on? OMG!!!
Those along with someone going at me with the Hitachi, and I lose my
freaking mind. <VBG> Had that happen after a party last year and I couldn't
move after I came. LOL
Jen
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>I do have to say I didn't know I was a spanko when I hit puberty (see my input
>on when I knew I was a spanko). I just knew that spanking did something to me
>and I got tingles hearing anything about it. For me that would be basically
>the movies and once in a while I would see a playboy in someone's house where I
>was babysitting and there would be stuff for sale in the back which would
>include a spanking block. I still didn't really make a connection to spanking
>being anything more than something in the movies. I only really made a
>connection when I came online.
Yeah, but you did have the tingles and spanking did turn you on, even
if you didn't make the connection for years. I don't recall it ever
doing that with me until that old boyfriend suggested it. Of course,
I might just have repressed it thoroughly; I just don't know.
snip
> 3. Are you aroused while being spanked or only afterwards when the
> hard pain stops and the lingering tingling goes on? Me, when
> bottoming, I'm usually vigourously physically and emotionally aroused
> before the spanking, during the anticipatory phase, but only
> emotionally aroused during the actual spanking. Mr. Willie goes south
> during the actual spanking usually, unless he is actively being tended
> to. After the spanking, both physical and emotional arousal are at a
> peak. Is this different for men than for women? Tops, please feel
> free to answer from your experience with those whom you've spanked.
Right now this is the only part I feel like responding to. I never get a
chance to find out if it's the spanking or afer that I find arousing. Just
the thought of being with Steve gets me going before we even make contact.
Once I'm with him, just being near him puts me in a state of total sexual
submission. I've go completely quiet in the car on the way to the motel.
He has to ask me to speak up because I find it hard to do more than whisper.
The mintue the door to the room is shut, I find my way to his arms and I
have no fully conscious thought again until I am walking away from his car
after he drops me off.
I don't mean I am completely unaware. I am aware. It's simply that I am in
a sort of altered state that makes me very compliant and intensely sexual.
I get that way simply because Steve is the man he is. I get aroused if his
breath brushes my cheek. He is in every way my idea of a dominant man,
always in control, especially of himself, confident, self-assured, knows
what he wants to do and does it.
> 4. How many of you like to incorporate what might be viewed as other
> kinks into your spanking play? I'm thinking of things like bondage,
> either mild such as handcuffs, or serious such as total immobility.
> How about gags? Enemas? Dildos or butt plugs. Other sources of pain
> such as nipple clamps or clothespins on genitals? Various pain
> inducing liquids or potions and creams? Anything else? How and when
> do you use them? Bonnie and I are partial to bondage, clips, clamps
> and such, potions and lotions and toys. I'm mentally into enemas, but
> rarely do it in real life.
>
> Well, there's four topics that might generate some spanking talk and
> increase the signal to noise ratio. Perhaps it will make me look
> forward again to opening up the newsgroup.
>
> Barrister
I might address all this at another time.
Katharine
>I knew you'd like that. You like to be right.<g> Bonnie always loves
>it when I say "you're right" as well.
<smile> Bonnie and I have a lot in common I think :-) I do love
being right :-)
>It's that obvious, is it?
<smile> rather :-)
> BTW, I don't think I've ever been called
>"sir" and a "naughty boy" in the some paragraph before.
I think it wouldn't have been that uncommon in the era of the Nannies.
Talking of which, that was a book which I read avidly - if you get a
chance to read it - do so! it's called The Rise and Fall of the
British Nanny by Jonathan Gathorne-Hardy. It's full of remarkable
anecdotes of cruelty inflicted on small children by their nannies.
love
Domino
>You should try it at least a couple of times -- for two reasons.
>First, it will teach you stuff about what a bottom feels that you
>can't learn any other way.
I don't know that I entirely agree with that.... Surely someone who
is completely and only a Top will/can not experience what a bottom
feels.
Like - I occasionally top for friends, but I don't get anything out of
the experience other than satisfaction at having done something nice
for a friend - not a sexual thrill - I'd get the smae pleasure from
giving them a massage or cooking them a nice meal or any other favour.
I presume that Tops *do* get a seuxal thrill out of spanking someone,
otherwise why would they bother.... but just because I've tried
Topping, and even though the people I've topped on the whole have told
me that I *can* walk the walk.... I have no real understanding of
what a Top gets out of Topping someone.
Of course, if the Top has switchy leanings, or wants to experiment,
that's entirely different, but the Old Guard notion that a real trew
Top has to work his or her way up from the ranks of bottoming - I
do'nt buy that.
rgds
domino
My first, and only, real spanking play as a kid was when I was about 7 or 8
I think. The actual time is kinda fuzzy, I just remember what house we were
in at the time, and that it was before I was 10. Most of the girls on the
street would be at our house, and we would play "house" in the upstairs
which was one big bedroom with a smaller one right at the top of the stairs.
There was a big walk-in closet in the bigger bedroom, and somehow I
convinced a couple of the girls to let me spank them for being bad. I think
until I was in my teens I just wanted to see other kids get spanked, not get
spanked myself. I had a thin belt and must have been very convincing
because the fact that the door to the closet was closed and it must have
made them braver, but they let me pull down their pants a little and I got
to spank them with the belt on the bare. I wonder if any of them are
reading this and remember that? It was over 30 years ago, in the early
70's, so if that sounds familiar, you know who you are! LOL I had forgotten
that for years and years, but when other people would mention things from
their childhoods on here, I started remembering all those little things from
way back when. : )
> 3. Are you aroused while being spanked or only afterwards when the
> hard pain stops and the lingering tingling goes on? Me, when
> bottoming, I'm usually vigourously physically and emotionally aroused
> before the spanking, during the anticipatory phase, but only
> emotionally aroused during the actual spanking. Mr. Willie goes south
> during the actual spanking usually, unless he is actively being tended
> to. After the spanking, both physical and emotional arousal are at a
> peak. Is this different for men than for women? Tops, please feel
> free to answer from your experience with those whom you've spanked.
Seriously aroused before, during, and after. LOL My endurance can go on for
a long time, if it's not seroius punishment, as long as I haven't orgasmed.
Once, three years ago, I was standing naked in a corner getting caned, and I
was VERY wet. It didn't matter that my Dom wanted me to tell him that I'd
do something, I was too aroused to give in right away. If it's only mildly
a punishment situation, and there's any wiggle room for attitude, I won't
give in as long as I'm that aroused. It takes him getting that TONE in his
voice for me to change my thinking. Of course, then the mindset changes and
I get all submissive, but until then, watch out! <BG>
> 4. How many of you like to incorporate what might be viewed as other
> kinks into your spanking play? I'm thinking of things like bondage,
> either mild such as handcuffs, or serious such as total immobility.
> How about gags? Enemas? Dildos or butt plugs. Other sources of pain
> such as nipple clamps or clothespins on genitals? Various pain
> inducing liquids or potions and creams? Anything else? How and when
> do you use them? Bonnie and I are partial to bondage, clips, clamps
> and such, potions and lotions and toys. I'm mentally into enemas, but
> rarely do it in real life.
Haven't tried bondage yet, and I doubt I could handle a gag because my
sinuses are so bad that breathing only through my nose is sometimes a
challenge. I've got a butt plug, and have done some scenes involving that.
I've had my temp taken and have done some enema play. I get all squirmy
with that thermometer in there, especially when the person wiggles it
around! On the phone a few years ago I used to do scenes where I'd have to
use clothespins on my nipples and thighs and I think directly on my pussy
lips (it's been a while, so I can't remember exactly), and I was surprised
at the length of time I was able to keep them on. It hurts like a son of a
bitch when they're removed of course. Not seriously into that stuff, but I
did have vibrating nipple clamps applied last year. <BG> More about that is
in my reply to Angie in a different part of this thread. I've also used
Heet. It's evil, because even when you wipe it off, it's already sunk into
your skin and it burns like hell. It's completely controllable if you get
most of it off the little applicator before application. The only problem
is that the stuff reeks, and if you live with other people it's difficult to
explain the smell if you aren't into physical exercise. LOL
> Well, there's four topics that might generate some spanking talk and
> increase the signal to noise ratio. Perhaps it will make me look
> forward again to opening up the newsgroup.
This thread is getting to monster size, which is very good to see for an on
topic, highly interesting thread. <BG> Thanks for starting it!
Jen
domino wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:13:26 GMT, bum...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>
>>You should try it at least a couple of times -- for two reasons.
>>First, it will teach you stuff about what a bottom feels that you
>>can't learn any other way.
>
>
> I don't know that I entirely agree with that.... Surely someone who
> is completely and only a Top will/can not experience what a bottom
> feels.
They certainly won't experience the emotional complexities that a bottom
feels. But knowing, for example, that a canestroke hurts twice, once
when it lands and again a few seconds later... or that even the
thuddiest paddle has plenty of sting on its leading edge... or that
anybody can take a whole lot more of anything if you give them a few
moments to breathe between strokes... or that lopsided spankings can be
so wretchedly frustrating as to ruin an otherwise good spanking... for
many tops, particularly those not gifted with intuition, these are best
learned by experience. IMO, of course.
Janet
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"domino" <dom...@cocoon.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3t8otvoqbfokehar1...@4ax.com...
Domino,
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like this. I doubt I'll ever do
much Topping, other than the promised time or two for a friend that I have
planned. It's just not really in me. My Dom is about 110% Top, and he'd
never ever agree to be spanked, especially just to see what happens on the
other side of things. He knows me very well, and knows exactly when to stop
spanking me if it's a punishment, because of MY reactions, not because he's
experienced it himself. He doesn't understand why Bottoms want or need to
be spanked (he's just glad that they do LOL), or why subs would need rules,
because he can't see having somebody else being in charge of him. What he
does understand is that I need to be spanked and to have rules (not so many
these days, luckily), and that's all he needs to know. He knows that it has
helped me internalize some of the stability he's shown me by being
consistent in how he deals with me. I don't think that being spanked
himself would help him do that.
Jen
> Do you use the belts doubled in half or just "single?" We find it
> makes a difference.
> Barrister
She tends to double it because she usually stays at close range with
us both on the bed. Once she stood with me on the on my knees on the
floor and my hands on the couch so she could swing the entire length.
Hopefully we'll do that again soon.
BTW, I can't post through Outlook Express. My posts vanish. I have to
post on Google, which is a total pain. The message I'm responding to
doesn't exist on Google--I had to copy and paste the quote from you on
this follow-up.
I post successfully on other NGs from Outlook Express using the same
ISP.
Ro
I suspect that all of us like it for different reasons, and that it effects
all of us differently. To be honest, my current intrest in bottoming isn't
really sexual at all (which is even more amusing considering a few months
ago I couldn't imagine play being non-sexual). It's much closer to how much
could I really take, with a bit of endorphin high without the effort of
running ten miles. Bottoming with humiliation I suspect would seriously turn
me off. For that matter, I don't think I'd have any intrest in humiliating
someone while topping them. Then again, I might find that I like it ;-)
> I'm a switch, probably a bit more bottom than Top, but not much. I
> love both spanking and being spanked. Can't imagine doing without
> either one.
Kinda like being bisexual: Increases your chance of a date? ;-P
<snip>
> Why choose? Find a woman who likes both too. ;o)
I certainly hope to find a women who's smart, funny, likes hard spanking and
nipples, bondage, and a few other kinks, a decent adrenaline addiction, with
a pinch of toppishness thrown in. Being drop-dead gorgeous and rich beyond
imagination would be a nice benifit.
Not picky at all, am I?
>I certainly hope to find a women who's smart, funny, likes hard spanking and
>nipples, bondage, and a few other kinks, a decent adrenaline addiction, with
>a pinch of toppishness thrown in. Being drop-dead gorgeous and rich beyond
>imagination would be a nice benifit.
>Not picky at all, am I?
Nope! Nothing picky about you. <G>
Snowy, who doesn't even come close
> If done properly, it will keep your
>mouth wide open, keep you from making anything but begging noise and,
>if you got a wide enough ring, even allow someone to insert their
>penis into your mouth through the ring. Size the ring to the penis
>first, of course.<g>
ROFLMAO!!
>
> BTW, I can't post through Outlook Express. My posts vanish. I have to
> post on Google, which is a total pain. The message I'm responding to
> doesn't exist on Google--I had to copy and paste the quote from you on
> this follow-up.
>
> I post successfully on other NGs from Outlook Express using the same
> ISP.
>
> Ro
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..
I would suggest opening a free yahoo e-mail account and then
opening a Google account linked to the Yahoo account for posting
purposes. You can always cut and paste to post again if need be.
..
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Jennifer
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Glad you liked it so much! It's funny, things like that memory are what I
tried to block out for years, thinking I was sick for what I liked. Boy, am
I over that! <BG> Sometime I should post some of the fantasies I used to
come up with late at night starting when I was around 6 years old, not
knowing that they were fantasies. They were always just "stories" I made up
to tell myself, about kids getting spanked. I also didn't realize that I
used to masturbate to the stories, because I never touched myself when I did
it. I had an interesting method that an older neighbor boy had taught me
when I was four. I could do it fully clothed, because that was how he
showed me. LOL He didn't even touch himself, he used a pillow on the floor
underneath him. I didn't realize what he was teaching me at the time. It
must have been VERY easy for him, being a boy and all, <BG>, but for me it
meant using all sorts of internal muscles to achieve the same effect. I
think I'd have a stroke if I tried the same method now! LOL
> >Seriously aroused before, during, and after. LOL
>
> What a grand way to be! Lucky you.
It's a physical reaction to something as simple as hot button words. Body
and mind are so linked into this kink that reaction isn't even something I
have to think about, it just happens!
> >Haven't tried bondage yet, and I doubt I could handle a gag because my
> >sinuses are so bad that breathing only through my nose is sometimes a
> >challenge.
>
> I have trouble breathing through my nose as well, but there are
> several "gags' that can suit folks like us. First, you can use a
> wiffle golf ball with a leather thong or shoelace through the holes.
> This kind of ball-gag allows you to breath, but not talk, just make
> begging noises. Another sort of gag which works well and is very
> humiliating is an "O" ring gag. You can make one yourself by buying a
> metal "O" ring at Home Depot, about 1 1/2 to 2 inches in diameter.
> You then wrap leather or tape around the entire ring, spiraling it
> around the ring. This is to protect your teeth. Next, you time two
> leather thongs or shoelaces at opposite each other on the sides of the
> ring. Insert the ring in your wide-open mouth behind your teeth and
> tie it tightly behind your head. If done properly, it will keep your
LOL Not sure if I'll ever get into the gag thing, but if I do, those are
great suggestions! I don't get to play all that often, what with Greg all
the way in Poughkeepsie, and parties only three times a year here, so I
haven't been able to try EVERYTHING yet.
> >This thread is getting to monster size, which is very good to see for an
on
> >topic, highly interesting thread. <BG> Thanks for starting it!
>
> You're welcome. It's good to be talking about spanking again.
That's for sure. My writing abilities have just started coming back to me
recently, though I haven't tried a spanking story yet, so all this talk gets
my imagination going again!
Jen
>I get that way simply because Steve is the man he is. I get aroused if his
>breath brushes my cheek. He is in every way my idea of a dominant man,
>always in control, especially of himself, confident, self-assured, knows
>what he wants to do and does it.
ROFL! You know, I like men like this too, and not particularly for
spanking. I prefer men like this who don't need me to be submissive,
of course, since I'm not. ;-) But a man who knows who he is and what
he wants is SERIOUSLY attractive, and always has been to me, maybe
because I don't feel like I'm walking on eggshells with men like this.
Come to think of it, I prefer this in female friends too, though. :->
>>And we both love to see Barrister bareass getting a spanking, me
>>thinks. <beg>
>
>You've both seen this live and in the flesh, Bonnie more frequently,
>of course, but I think you both take far too much pleasure in talking
>about this.
I think they take a perfectly appropriate amount of pleasure in
talking about this. Heck, I'd love to see you in that condition too.
;-P
>On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 02:13:26 GMT, bum...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>You should try it at least a couple of times -- for two reasons.
>>First, it will teach you stuff about what a bottom feels that you
>>can't learn any other way.
>I don't know that I entirely agree with that.... Surely someone who
>is completely and only a Top will/can not experience what a bottom
>feels.
Agreed, but even a complete Top can get an idea of what particular
levels of physical force can do. However.... You probably know more
about this than I do, so I'll bow to the expert. ;->
>Of course, if the Top has switchy leanings, or wants to experiment,
>that's entirely different, but the Old Guard notion that a real trew
>Top has to work his or her way up from the ranks of bottoming - I
>do'nt buy that.
Nor do I. I've been spanked by a number of Tops who have never
bottomed, would never want to bottom, and some of them have been
d*mned good at what they do. :-) But the particular Top I was
talking to in this thread had already expressed some interest in being
spanked, so I think he/she (don't remember which it was) should try
it. ;-)
>Ooooo! Yum! Yes! This would have done it for me as well. I've just
>loved the idea of routine spankings, especially those associated with
>religion.
<smile> yes....
>I became fixated on this idea when I was around 11. My sixth grade
>teacher, one Paul DeMeo, told our class how his father would spanked
>him and his brother every Saturday night with a razor strop. From
>that time on, I had a thing for routine punishments and razor strops.
ho yes - that would have had me dreaming for sure!!
love
domino
>Himself hasn't been bottomish in a while, so maybe you ought to tell
>him that he deserves/needs a spanking.
OK :-)
> One way or another, he's
>always up to some naughtiness, so shouldn't be too hard to find an
>"excuse." <g>
No indeed - he's such a naughty boy. I mean - look at the way he's
been teasing zoey and various other people here. not to mention this
thread, which he started during the busiest period of the year, so
that I can't give it the attention I want to.
>Well, duh! We all knew that, Domino. <g>
Hmmm... wonder what gave me away....
love
domino
>They certainly won't experience the emotional complexities that a bottom
>feels.
It's not just emotion. I believe that bottoms/subs/masochists
experinece pain differently to other people.
> But knowing, for example, that a canestroke hurts twice, once
>when it lands and again a few seconds later...
And maybe deciding that a canestroke inflicts such horrific pain ?
> or that even the
>thuddiest paddle has plenty of sting on its leading edge... or that
>anybody can take a whole lot more of anything if you give them a few
>moments to breathe between strokes... or that lopsided spankings can be
>so wretchedly frustrating as to ruin an otherwise good spanking... for
>many tops, particularly those not gifted with intuition, these are best
>learned by experience. IMO, of course.
These are all things that a good Top can learn from their subs,
through communication. It doesn't have to be experienced. IMO of
course.
rgds
Domino
>Janet
>I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels like this. I doubt I'll ever do
>much Topping, other than the promised time or two for a friend that I have
>planned. It's just not really in me.
That's it exactly. And while I don't mind playing with friends - it
does nothing for me.
> My Dom is about 110% Top, and he'd
>never ever agree to be spanked, especially just to see what happens on the
>other side of things.
Ditto!
> He knows me very well, and knows exactly when to stop
>spanking me if it's a punishment, because of MY reactions, not because he's
>experienced it himself.
Yes - good communication and learning each other's body language works
well.
> I don't think that being spanked
>himself would help him do that.
I woud go so far as to suggest that if someone like that *were*
spanked, it might be detrimental to their self-image as a caring Top
and have an adverse effect.
rgds
domino
>You've both seen this live and in the flesh, Bonnie more frequently,
>of course, but I think you both take far too much pleasure in talking
>about this.
>
>Barrister, just saying
Well, you might be 'just saying'. but really, inside, you know youa re
feeling squirmy, like the naughty boy you are, and you know that
pretty soon now Bonnie is going to have to take you in hand.
Maybe she will try out the overnight treatment suggested by Janet -
what a night you would have, knowing you were being tenderised for a
severe spanking the next morning.
Of course, Bonnie woud likely order you not to touch yourself, so that
you would be all unrequitedly lustful....
oh yes....
love
domino
>Agreed, but even a complete Top can get an idea of what particular
>levels of physical force can do. However.... You probably know more
>about this than I do, so I'll bow to the expert. ;->
I don't claim to be an expert, but it seems to me that the top could
easily get the wrong idea - because Tops don't process pain the way a
bottom does.
> But the particular Top I was
>talking to in this thread had already expressed some interest in being
>spanked, so I think he/she (don't remember which it was) should try
>it. ;-)
That makes all the difference of course.
rgds
domino
domino wrote:
>>or that even the
>>thuddiest paddle has plenty of sting on its leading edge... or that
>>anybody can take a whole lot more of anything if you give them a few
>>moments to breathe between strokes... or that lopsided spankings can be
>>so wretchedly frustrating as to ruin an otherwise good spanking... for
>>many tops, particularly those not gifted with intuition, these are best
>>learned by experience. IMO, of course.
>
> These are all things that a good Top can learn from their subs,
> through communication. It doesn't have to be experienced. IMO of
> course.
No, of course it doesn't have to. And if a top really doesn't feel
comfortable or OK about bottoming, they shouldn't, and nobody should try
to force them to or imply that they are lesser tops for not having done so.
However, if they *can* feel these things firsthand without undue
distress, I still believe it best that they do so. There are things you
just can't learn as well from words as you can from nerve endings.
I've played with excellent tops who have never switched, and excellent
tops who have. I've also played with tops who I think would benefit
greatly from a session or two at the other end of the cane (or paddle or
what-have-you), who just don't seem to "get it" from even the most
careful explanation of what it feels like when you go too fast without
warmup or land all the spanks on one side.
>And we both love to see Barrister bareass getting a spanking, me
>thinks. <beg>
Oh yes - I do like it when people get what they desire :-)
>>The Rise and Fall of the
>>British Nanny by Jonathan Gathorne-Hardy. It's full of remarkable
>>anecdotes of cruelty inflicted on small children by their nannies.
>
>Sounds very interesting!
Just for you then <smile> here are a couple of excerpts.
From a book called The Goodwife (circa 14th century)
And if they children be rebel and will not them bow
but if any of them misdoeth, neither ban nor blow
(don't curse or punch)
But take a smart rod and beat them in a row
till they cry for mercy and be of their guild aknow
---------
Agnes Paston in th late 15th centurie sent her son to school with a
note to the Naster to "well belashe him"
--------
John Wesley's mother, writing to him on the principal rules she
observed when educating her family said :
"When turned a year olf (and some before) they were taught tofear the
rod and cry softly; by which means they escaped abundance of
correction they might otherwise have had"
----------
Dr johnson, helping boswell witha case about a schoolmaster who was
accused of beating his pupils too hard said :
"The charge is, that he has used immoderate and cruel correction.
Correction, in itself, is not cruel; children, not being reasonable,
can be governed only by fear. To impress this fear is therefore one
of the first duties of those who have care of children"
----------------
A survey entitled Exploring English Character published by Geoffrey
Gorer in 1955 based on a sample of 5000 of 14000 people surveyed found
an overwhelming majority were in favour of spanking while 21% of
fathers and 14% of mothers thought beating or a harsh caning a good
thing.
He found that people spoke with gusto especially among lower class
informants, although the viewpoint went beyond class barriers.
A quote from the survey :
A boy should have his seat slapped until he screams for mercy and make
him promise never to do the same thing again
more later if you want them :-)
love
domino
> I particularly timed this
>thread to disrupt your harmony during this season
There ya go Bonnie - he admits it quite deliberately. Sounds like
your bad boy is purely *begging* to be dealt with.
love
domino
> No indeed - he's such a naughty boy. I mean - look at the way he's
> been teasing zoey and various other people here.
::sniff sniff::
Yeah that's right!
This reminds me of an incident that happened to me when I was in the first
grade. I was new to a new school, in a little town in NY. It was my first
experience with walking to a bus stop, and taking a bus to school.
We all had to line up and get on the bus with the bigger kids - up to the
sixth grade.
I remember going up to the bus driver and telling him that he had to let me
off the bus on the right side of the street, because I wasn¹t allowed to
cross the street. He told me to go sit down.
After I sat down, I was already close to tears being very worried about
having to cross the street when the bus brought me back home. An older boy
walked past me on the bus, and his bookbag hit me in the head (totally an
accident I am sure) I started crying like the baby I am. <G>
The poor kid got yelled at and was made to sit at the front of the bus for
the ride to school. There I sat - feeling SO guilty about being such a BIG
BABY!
The big kid gave me dirty looks the rest of the school year. OO!
But you know..
BOTNGBs does pick on me.
::sniff sniff::
:)
zoey
>Nope, just being an Alpha Male.<veg>
No... bratting is a sign of a Very Naughty Boy!
One whom, I hope will soon find his pants and undies going south.
Imagine standing there all anked and vulnerable waiting for bonnie to
announce what your punishment is going to be. Being made to wait for
it, to consider your plight....
love
domino
> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:11:20 -0500, zprymantis
> <zprym...@smilingwithteeth.com> wrote:
>
> <snip of a sad, whiny, little story>
That wasn't nice! :::starts to cry and hold heaD:::
>
>> But you know..
>
>> BOTNGBs does pick on me.
>
>> ::sniff sniff::
>
> I only do it out of affection and concern for your well-being. It's a
> rough world out there and you have to be tough to survive. Just look
> upon it as DaJudge helping you get what you need.
>
What I need right now is a real HARD spanking, and that's probably what you
need too. ::cheddar cheesy grin:::
My daddy is going to spank me this weekend for all my transgressions. Most
of the things on my birch book are typoes...but I have some REALLY bad
offenses on there as well...
For instance - yesterday I was talking to him and called the Ranjerks the
Rang*rs. That is STRICTLY forbidden!
I am in BIG TROUBLE!
.... And I do NOT whine! SO THERE!
Hugs,
zed
Do you have your nipples pierced?
SG
Yep, jut like there's no rule that says you can't be a Top and a brat
at the same time. (I'd say more Tops are brats than not.) ;-)
>Bonnie, knowing that Barrister is a very devilish Alpha Male (who
>needs his adorable bottom turned a nice shade of scarlet)
Sounds like Barrister is a well understood and tended to alpha male
brat. ;->
The left one is :-). But I should clarify that it's someone elses nipples
that I'm more intrested in pinching, clamping, twisting, than my nipples.
That, and not having breasts myself, it'd make it fairly difficult to play
with them.
>Bonnie, knowing that Barrister is a very devilish Alpha Male (who
>needs his adorable bottom turned a nice shade of scarlet)
and you just *know* that the more he protests, the more he needs it
:-)
love
domino
>more later if you want them :-)
Oh, yes, please! This is great stuff!
They remind me of a couple of things. One was a PBS Masterpiece
Theater series called "Tom Brown's School Days" (I think taken from a
book). It showed a school boy in Britain being caned bare bottom
while over the back of another boy.
The other was a mention in the autobiography of Alan Watts about
school boy canings in Britian and how Aldous Huxley covered the
subject quite well in his autobiography. I've tried to find that but
haven't been successful so far.
Just thought of another instance. It was another Masterpiece Theater
production of the life of Laurence of Arabia. There was a delicious
spanking in it but I don't remember the details.
Bonnie
To send me e-mail, remove everything after @ except rogers and com.
>No... bratting is a sign of a Very Naughty Boy!
>
>One whom, I hope will soon find his pants and undies going south.
>Imagine standing there all anked and vulnerable waiting for bonnie to
>announce what your punishment is going to be. Being made to wait for
>it, to consider your plight....
You do have a way with words, Domino. :-)
Hugs,
Bonnie
>There ya go Bonnie - he admits it quite deliberately. Sounds like
>your bad boy is purely *begging* to be dealt with.
I couldn't agree more. I'm just itching to see him begging me...
begging me to stop strapping him with the rubber strap, that is. <beg>
Bonnie, feeling very toppish
Yez, I understand it's someone elses nipples that you're much more
interested in. It is 'nice' that you have a nipple piercing, I'd like
to nip, suck and bite your pierced nipple. <just teasing, wouldn't want
to frighten you>
<<That, and not having breasts myself, it'd make it fairly difficult to
play with them.>>
Well, you do have breasts and could very well play with your nipples. I
like to have mine sucked hard, bitten, licked and my breasts bruised
from merely your mouth, alone. <eg>
SG...off to shower ;)~
>Nah! Sorry, still feeling too toppish for such verbiage to cause even
>a bit of a stirring down south.<g>
so much the better - it will be more truly a punishment then. if
you're not even slightly enjoying it.
>Speaking of things going south, if you do want to send my pants and
>undies south, would you mind sending them with me in them as I'd like
>to be someplace sunny and warm.
I know I would!
love
domino
>You do have a way with words, Domino. :-)
Why, thank you ma'am :-)
love
Domino (always *very* polite to Bonnie when she is brandishing a strap
of any sort :-))
>>Sounds like Barrister is a well understood and tended to alpha male
>>brat. ;->
>
>Sigh! My kingdom for a hairbrush. So many smart-assed women, so
>little time.
Why, thank you, good sir. (bowing)
;-P
>>so much the better - it will be more truly a punishment then. if
>>you're not even slightly enjoying it.
>
>Ya, but you see, without my desire and consent, it just doesn't
>happen. If it happens, it will be because I want it to, which means
>I'll be enjoying it. Ain't switching grand?
You said it! ;->
>Ya, but you see, without my desire and consent, it just doesn't
>happen. If it happens, it will be because I want it to, which means
>I'll be enjoying it. Ain't switching grand?
So Suppose Bonnie came up to you and said that she *really* felt in
the mood to give you a spanking - even if you didn't entirely feel
like it, would you be churlish enough to refuse??? <shockhorror>
love
Domino
>Oh, yes, please! This is great stuff!
<smile> see below :-)
>They remind me of a couple of things. One was a PBS Masterpiece
>Theater series called "Tom Brown's School Days" (I think taken from a
>book). It showed a school boy in Britain being caned bare bottom
>while over the back of another boy.
you'd think they'd show re-runs....
>The other was a mention in the autobiography of Alan Watts about
>school boy canings in Britian and how Aldous Huxley covered the
>subject quite well in his autobiography. I've tried to find that but
>haven't been successful so far.
Do you know the title of Huxley's autobiography? There are some of
his books at alibris
>Just thought of another instance. It was another Masterpiece Theater
>production of the life of Laurence of Arabia. There was a delicious
>spanking in it but I don't remember the details.
Thanks for these....
Here are some more from Gathorne-Hardy's Rise and Fall of the British
Nanny :
Quoting Bridget Tisdall : She was brusque with her charges, pulling
them out of high-chairs, smacking them and making them stand in
corners.
------
From a description by Nanny McCallum :
Nursery life was very strict. If they had jam for tea they didn't
have cake. The parents were tough too. C.F (the father) was a good
example. The children wer often given 'stick'. right from the
beginning, when they were very small, I've taken a child into the
bathroom, father has come up, then slippered that boy till he couldn't
sit for two days. A real properp thrashing. you could hear him yell.
And a very good thing. We never punished them. The father did. As a
result they were very good chidlren. Very quiet. Very self-contained.
-------------
shiela T (1920s) described to me how her nanny used to quiver with
excitement when it came to a beating - which it did several times a
week - and used to go herself and cut the canes she used from a grove
of long swishy bamboos which grew by the lake.
-----------------
From a letter by Lady Anne Hill
One of my brothers remembers her (the nanny) laying me over her knees
when I wa still in long clothes* (I imagine aged eight months or
younger), and beating me hard on the bottom. This she continued to do
frequently when I was bigger
* babies were kept in long clothes til they were potty-trained -
duyring this period this would have been by ten months at the latest
as babies were held on the potty at regualr intervals during the day
from around one month old.
-------------------------
From the same letter - the children were getting over-excited :
'Nanny'll beat me' I said to my eight-year-old brother. 'stuff a towel
up your drawers and you won't feel it,' he said. This he helped me to
do, both of us nearly swooning with giggles. but when the time came,
she found it, pulled it out and beat me harder than ever.
--------------------
(For Zoey )
Bridget Tisdall again :
In some resepcts, Nanny Moore was a fiend. I was never alowed to sit
by myself in the lavatory and have a good dream. She always came in
with me, and standing beside me holding sheets of Bromo paper,
exhorted me to try. I tried till my rectum ached. Whatever turds I
had must have been made of stone. Nothing ever came out. My rectum
ached, my tummy ached, with 'trying'. There she stood, a tyrant in
her white starched apron, filling the lavatory with terror and misery.
After what seemed to me hours of trying I woud shuffle off the
lavatory seat. Nanny would peer into the bowl : Nothing. I knew I
was in for a dose of Gregory Powder or Syrup of Figs. I was the
victim of a sort of bowel fever. I went to bed haunted with the guilt
of not going and the thought of a dose the following day. Sometimes
she would try and make me 'go' on the pot. If nothing happened she
inserted a suppository up my rectum. I remember the horrible
sensation of the ice-cold suppository and extreme humiliation to this
day; the feeling of having something done to one, an invasion of
privacy, was quite horrible.
----------------------
One of the psychiatrists I discussed the subjec twith had a patient
whose Nanny used ti tie him to his pot with straps. Simon T was
allowed two 'tries', separated by half an hour each and then given a
thorough smacking and Gregory powder.
-----------
Simon T (1925) can remember being slapped every time his hand so much
as strayed in the direction of his genitals and once, when he and his
siter were aged four and six, they were caught examining each other
and soundly trashed.
-----------
Daphne Fielding in her autobiography Mercury Presides (which I have on
order!) talks about A childhood of almost incessant beating snad
smackings till she was 7. One anny used to beat her with nettles.
Another used to smack her continually and painfully with the back of
a Mason & Pearson hairbrush. Indeed, so much was beating a part of
her upbringing that when her father said he was going to marry again,
a Miss Rose, her instinctive reaction was 'It *will* be nice to be
smacked by such a pretty person'.
----------------
Miss W V born in 1925, had a Nanny who used to beat her and her
brother so ferociously that their screams were often heard by the
neighbours. nopthing was exempt from a beating. this nanny even
taught WV to ride a bicycle by rushing along beside her and slashing
at her legs each time she fell off. sheer pain forced her to cling
on.
She described too, the hideous delay between a 'crime' and its
punishment. When she was five she was given some embroidered
handkerhiefs for Christmas. they were put away in a drawer, but a few
mornings later, at six o'clock, she had a sudden longing to look at
them. they were embroidered with Dutch scenes of windmills and skaing
on canals. She got up and carried them back into bed with her.
nothing was said about the crime (it had been detected and instantly
reported by a maid noticing the light shining beneath the door) until
eight hours later.
After lunch, she saw nanny ominously, and with her peculliar
'punihsment' expression, unscrewing the long wooden rod with a knob at
its end, which kept the baby in his large high chair. Nanny ordered
her upstairs to the nursery and then set to beating her with
concentrated rage, not just on her bottom but all over her back.
-----------------
love
domino
>On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:01:00 +0000, domino <dom...@cocoon.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>Nothing. I knew I
>>was in for a dose of Gregory Powder or Syrup of Figs
>
>Any idea what either of these are and of what they are made? How were
>they used? Are they still available?
>
>Thanks for all of the excerpts, Domino.
>
>Barrister
Both are orally administered laxatives.
Gregory Powder was a mixture of Magnesia, Rhubarb & Ginger (not
available now as far as I know)
Syrup of Figs was, as the name implies, a syrup of figs, sometimes
with senna and either cascara or rhubarb added to boost the effects.
I believe versions of this are still available. I have no personal
experience of either, but both are rumoured to be effective and to
taste unpleasant.
I'm sure they taste much better and will do the job just as well.
Just trying to help, fig syrup being so hard to find at all.
Katharine
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> On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:01:00 +0000, domino <dom...@cocoon.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >Nothing. I knew I
>On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 09:01:00 +0000, domino <dom...@cocoon.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>Nothing. I knew I
>>was in for a dose of Gregory Powder or Syrup of Figs
>
>Any idea what either of these are and of what they are made? How were
>they used? Are they still available?
Both are laxatives, the gregory's as I understand it, a more - shall
we say - explosive one.
Gregory Powder, named after the doc who invented in (he died in 1822)
was made of a compound of a mixture of pulverised
rhubarb, ginger and magnesia
Syrup of figs is still available, sometimes with senna added. I don't
think the Gregory's is.
>Thanks for all of the excerpts, Domino.
you're very welcome
love
domino
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 08:35:26 +0000, domino <dom...@cocoon.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Both are laxatives, the gregory's as I understand it, a more - shall
>> we say - explosive one.
>
> In the interest of science, which is one of the reasons why I come to
> this NG<g>, I shall pass this information on to Zoey and Daddy, both
> of whom, I feel, will find this of extreme interest.
>
I got to experience the castille soap this weekend, and that was plenty
explosive from where I was sitting!
Hugs,
zed
Oh, your not frightening me. You're doing something to me... but it ain't
frightening
> Well, you do have breasts and could very well play with your nipples. I
> like to have mine sucked hard, bitten, licked and my breasts bruised
> from merely your mouth, alone. <eg>
>
> SG...off to shower ;)~
It may be a few days until there's enough blood pressure in my head to risk
standing in the shower again
*drools*
>On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:02:20 -0500, bonni...@assville.com wrote:
>
>>Now I really, really love being slapped lightly on my pussy. It just
>>about sends me through the roof.
>
>Bad girls who get caught masturbating have to spread their legs and
>get strapped on their offending parts.
Chuckle; naughty girls sometimes have to stand on all fours, with
their legs far apart, and a very thin, light cane doing...
interesting... things.
This, after the thuddy cane has already had an interesting effect.
Damn. But I should have chose another word, because now I'm flashing
on Bug Bunny working on the hair of the furry monster in the giant
tennis shoes, and that just ruins the effect.
(Then again... "If an INNTERESTING bottom can't have an INNTERESTING
set of cane stripes, I just don't know what the world is coming
to...")
--
Everything I needed to know in life I learned in Kindergarten. Like:
Beauty has a beginning, and an ending, but always lives beyond its span,
in the hearts of many.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:38:58 GMT, Barrister <Barr...@Assville.com>
wrote:
>
>So, let's see, what can we discuss?
>
>1. I'm a switch and I am still, after over fifty years of being a
>switch, still can't figure out what it is that causes me to feel like
>bottoming or topping at any given time. I seem to get into bottomish
>moods which last a few months, with some toppish episodes during that
>period, then, slowly, but surely, I'll slide into a toppish mood which
>will last a few months with some bottomish episodes during that
>period. Have other switches noticed this pattern or a different one?
>What's your take on this.
Well, you know, desire is a funny kind of thing. There are times when
I want to bottom, but can't due to lack of a viable top, and so I
don't really want to, if you understand the distinction.
I suppose the closest thing would be, if you wanted to have sex,
because you were super-horny, and masturbation just wouldn't cut it,
but the only available partner was just not workable, you
kinda-wouldn't want to have sex anymore.
Or, if you *really* want ice cream, and are offered your
least-favorite ice cream, you realize that you didn't exactly want
*ice cream* that badly after all.
I think I saw a person or two mention that stress can bring on
bottom-ish feelings. I do know that holds for me, though it also cuts
down my range of partners. There are some people I wouldn't want to
bottom to when I'm stressed, though I'd gladly bottom to them other
times.
>
>2. At what age did you first have the urge to spank or be spanked for
>fun, pleasure, urgent need or something other than being spanked cuz
>you were a kid being punished or an adult, semi-adult punishing a kid
>for being bad? I was four or five years old when I got involved with
>my first spanking play. It was with the little girl next door, Susan
>R., who was the same age as I and who just loved to spank and be
>spanked for fun. Are you out there reading Susan? If so, thanks!
I honestly don't know, but I can put a lower cap of 13 on it. I also
know that I never had any funny feelings about spankings during the
time of my childhood that I was being spanked. (Thus, if you want to
play logic games, you can deduce that I was no longer being spanked at
the age of 13.)
Out of idle curiosity, I kinda wish I could place my awareness that
spanking had a sexual content with my capacity for ejaculation. I'd
learned to masturbate years before, and never stopped, you see.
(Well, obviously, I stopped masturbating on occasion, or I'd have a
hard time sleeping or doing anything that entailed leaving my room.
But I never got out of the habit of it... not even when I learned how
horrible and sinful it was. I was really glad when I learned how
horrible and sinful it *wasn't*.)
>3. Are you aroused while being spanked or only afterwards when the
>hard pain stops and the lingering tingling goes on? Me, when
>bottoming, I'm usually vigourously physically and emotionally aroused
>before the spanking, during the anticipatory phase, but only
>emotionally aroused during the actual spanking. Mr. Willie goes south
>during the actual spanking usually, unless he is actively being tended
>to. After the spanking, both physical and emotional arousal are at a
>peak. Is this different for men than for women? Tops, please feel
>free to answer from your experience with those whom you've spanked.
For me, it depends, and part of that is my own set of desires.
There are really at least two sets of spanking desires. There's the
desire to get a spanking ("goody, goody, I'm getting a spanking!"),
and then, there's the desire to be in danger of a spanking, and to
have gotten a spanking, but maybe no desire to actually *get* the
spanking.
I tend towards the second part, myself, so I can actually be
nervous/anxious during the actual spanking, and sometimes even
afterwards, I don't hit full-peak arousal right away.
However, there is an interesting game one can play, where a spanking
continues until orgasm is reached. Properly done, it can be quite
intense on *both* sides of the hips.
>
>4. How many of you like to incorporate what might be viewed as other
>kinks into your spanking play?
I like to. (Long quiet period)
Okay, okay. I like sensation play, and I like certain kinds of
helplessness/hopelessness play.
One of the worst spankings I ever received was after my butt was
coated with Heet, I was ordered to bring myself to orgasm, and then
spanked pretty hard (on a par with the hardest spankings I'd otherwise
ever received). That was intense, and definitely one of those "boy,
I'm glad I experienced that", memories, but I'm not that eager to do
it again.
(Then again, I suppose if I was bottoming to someone, and they
demanded it, I wouldn't have a choice, would I? How's *that* for a
happy/dreadful thought?)
As for the rest (John continues speaking, and nothing comes out,
indicating that he's not quite willing to share this part of himself).
So, there it is....
>> 1. [switching moods]
>
>I'm both at the same time. My topping mood is more aesthetic, the look, the feel
>of a squirming girl, yelping as I turn her bum rosy with my hand as she
>struggles over my knee. My bottoming is more emotional, there's a subspace that
>I've only reached rarely that felt like I was flying that only escalated as the
>endorphins kicked in. I've never had the opportunity, but I'm sure that I could
>happily top someone while sitting on a well tenderised bottom.
This reminds me of a game I haven't yet tried, but have an urge to.
Before the scene, flip a coin; if you get tails, well, *obviously*
that means you're the one getting the spanking.
If the coin comes up heads, at some point in time, you're going to
take the scene over. Just as the spanking is going to begin, roles
suddenly change - this requires good scene control, since it's hard to
imagine the stern headmaster with his bared butt in the air scolding
the too-strict headmistress for excessive use of corporal punishment -
and the person who was expecting to give gets to learn whether or not
it really would have been nicer to give instead of receive....