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Askep...@aol.com

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Nov 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/18/99
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Mike Hitchen" <newpers...@one.net.au> of New Perspectives - Small
Business Solutions is a remarkable guy with amazing recuperative powers - or
so it seems.

Just a couple of days after his wife, Jane, allegedly dies of cancer, a
cancer that she concealed so very well from everyone including the customers
of her "discipline" services, and a few days after Mike is threatening people
with lawsuits which mysteriously get dropped, Mike is fine again.

In fact, Mike is so fine, that he's flirting outrageously with any woman that
so much as blinks at him. He's so fine that he's engaging in flame wars all
over the place. You'd hardly know that he ever had a wife, let alone one
that had just died a horrible death. When my mother died, my father wasn't
in much shape to be doing any of the things that Mike has been doing. He
needed time to think, to be alone, to mourn.

I know that everyone reacts differently to a loss, but Mike sure has a funny
way of mourning.

My sceptical side tells me that Mike either never had a wife, Jane, or that
she never died. Whichever it is, Mike is having us on and appears to be one
of the bigger phonies that has graced this newsgroup which has seen more than
its share of phonies. Worse still, he's not even an entertaining phony and
takes himself far too seriously.

Belle

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Nov 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/18/99
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what i think is strange is a sock named "askeptic".
this is the first time you have posted... AND with a name like that, in view of
what youve posted...
it seems like you mad this name merely to make this post.
soooo it leaves me thinking that you are indeed a fraud.
i also wonder who you really are... and why youre too chicken-shit to post
something like this in your own name.
shit-stirrer??? definatly.
fake??? most for surely.
the least you could have done if you were gonna be trollish, is use a bit more
imagination with your name.
belle

Clarence Woodworth

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Nov 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/18/99
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I <GULP..finding it hard to say>

a..a..AGREE wi..with Belle here!

Coward!!!!!!!

Clarence,who likes "being agreeable" with Southern Belles.

ssp...@webtv.net

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Nov 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/18/99
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Cheap shot. Composed to hurt someone on a most personal level. No
issues here, just malice.

Spark

JULNICK

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Nov 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/18/99
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I agree with Belle and Spark. A sock and a coward. Try some bleach, your true
colors are showing...


Tia

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Nov 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/18/99
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In article <0.af19d7d...@aol.com>,

Askep...@aol.com wrote:
> Mike Hitchen" <newpers...@one.net.au> of New Perspectives - Small
> Business Solutions is a remarkable guy with amazing recuperative powers - or
> so it seems.
>
> Just a couple of days after his wife, Jane, allegedly dies of cancer, a
> cancer that she concealed so very well from everyone including the customers
> of her "discipline" services, and a few days after Mike is threatening people
> with lawsuits which mysteriously get dropped, Mike is fine again.
>
> In fact, Mike is so fine, that he's flirting outrageously with any woman that
> so much as blinks at him. He's so fine that he's engaging in flame wars all
> over the place. You'd hardly know that he ever had a wife, let alone one
> that had just died a horrible death. When my mother died, my father wasn't
> in much shape to be doing any of the things that Mike has been doing. He
> needed time to think, to be alone, to mourn.
>
> I know that everyone reacts differently to a loss, but Mike sure has a funny
> way of mourning.
>
> My sceptical side tells me that Mike either never had a wife, Jane, or that
> she never died. Whichever it is, Mike is having us on and appears to be one
> of the bigger phonies that has graced this newsgroup which has seen more than
> its share of phonies. Worse still, he's not even an entertaining phony and
> takes himself far too seriously.
>
>


Dear Skeptic,

I do not know you. What Belle says is true. Deja is only showing one
posting for you under this name, at this time. That DOES cause me to
question who you might be, and why you might be choosing NOW to post.

At no time do I recall hearing EITHER Jane or Mike say that they were
husband and wife. I am NOT even certain that they had a romantic liason.
I heard Jane refer to him as a "partner" for certain. If I get around to
it, I will check my data for legalities.

I believe Jane Michaels was a live person, who underwent yet another
bout of chemo, and that she died. BAck when i was a Real Person, I did
in-home care and many of my patients were hosipce or terminal patients.
Many of those folks had cancer. What Jane posted to me,. both NG and
privately, rang true.
I do NOT know precisely what Jane's relationship was with Mike. When
*I* talked to her, it never really came up. We mostly made small talk
and joked. It certainly wasn't my business to intrude, either,
especially since it became very apparent to me that Jane was having a
really terrible time.

I certainly don't believe that legalities matter in a firm
partnership. We have all heard stories of cops who took a bullet for
their partner. Of soldiers who went back to save a buddy. Such love is
real and true and DOES NOT have to be sexual in any way.

I do not know, nor do I care, WHY Mike is engaging in flame-wars. I
frankly think it is a waste of his time and talent. Perhaps it is a way
of venting his anger. However, it's not my place to second-guess his
motives. I wish he would not flame, but then, I wish NOBODY here would
do that.


What matters to me is that Jane was real and that she and Mike cared
deeply for one another. Period.

I still don't know who you are. Nor do I really care. I do have to ask
WHY? This NG has been in a constant uproar since the end of July.
Everytime it shows some sign of settling and people being decent to each
other, someone has to kick up the bon-fire again. Just what is your
motive?

Please note, that I have been polite. I HAVE asked you some hard
questions, but I have been very direct, I have told you what I think
and why and I have not been abusive. I really DO want to hear WHY you
are persuing this, but please note that I will NOT respond to flames.


Tiamat


--
WACK- "The Station That Whacks Butt!"


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Before you buy.

huny

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Nov 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/18/99
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HOLY SHIT! First we have domino in agreement with me, and then YOU with
BELLE?!?!?!? I see that they are serving frozen custard in hell
now.....it won't be long........

huny


Clarence Woodworth wrote:

--
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here. This is the war room."

-From Dr. Strangelove


Mie Hitchen

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Nov 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/19/99
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Oh please try to get your facts right. Jane was not my wife. Not in one single
post did I ever say she was. In fact, if you would like to check, in one post I
even stated that Jane nd I did not have a relationship in perhaps the full
sense of the word.

For your information sunshine, Jane and I lived under the shadow of cancer for
8 years - that is how we met - at St Vincents Hospital Sydney. Dr Anthony
Dodds, Director of Haemotology, Darlinghurst Street, Sydney 2001.
When you live like that, you are always prepared

I do not sit on my arse feeling sorry for myself like others may do.

As to keeping it rom clients, what business it is off yours. In fact most
members were informed when it became clear that things were getting difficult
for her. Do you go around telling peoole in your job you are ill? As I have
stated so many times before, everyone was offered a full refund. Those I could
not find because they had changed email addresses, I posted info stating full
refunds would be given. The checks are a business account with both my name and
Janes on the check. Oh I know..you are going to tell me that Westpac bank is in
in the conspiracy as well. To open a business bank account in Australia, you
have to prove the identities of all the parties involved, and proof of business
registration.

Once I had posted that info on 3 different groups, I am sure that if any one
asked for a refund and did not get it, they would post something to the group.

I dropped the legal action on this group, but not on another. The reason I
dropped it in this group was again clearly explained in another post. .

I am still taking action against a person on a non spanking related group.

Wife indeed.

Mike H

Askep...@aol.com wrote in article <0.af19d7d...@aol.com>...

Mie Hitchen

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Nov 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/19/99
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Spark, I owe you an apology. I made a huge mistake. I opened my email this
morning and saw your post. I thought you were referring to one of my remarks!!!

Sorry spark, I will write you an email with a full explanation and apology.
Apart from stupidity, I have no excuse for my error.

Mike H.

ssp...@webtv.net wrote in article
<1323-383...@storefull-128.iap.bryant.webtv.net>...

Mike H

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Nov 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/19/99
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My apology for the misspelling of my name in my responses and posts...but the
"k" was not working properly!

Mike H..

NYIrishRed

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Nov 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/19/99
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Some cowardly sockpuppet asks:

>Does it seem strange to anyone else?

No..... but thanks for playing. You can pick up your Tourister luggage on the
way out.

IrishRed

Klondike Woman

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Nov 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/19/99
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Mike,

Pay no attention. Its just trying to get your goat.

I admire you, and enjoy you, and obviously, so do many others of us here. You
cant please them all. But you know that!

Love,
Klonda
pe

domino

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Nov 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/19/99
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On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 13:20:49 EST, Askep...@aol.com wrote:

>I know that everyone reacts differently to a loss, but Mike sure has a funny
>way of mourning.

Were you afraid to write this shit using your usual nick? Coward.

domino

Klondike Woman

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Nov 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/19/99
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Listen, you shrills who have some kind of personal axe to grind about Mike and
you want to expose him--

I don't give a damn. If Jane existed or didnt exist, either way it was a great
story, a sweet story. She was a fabulous character, I enjoyed her, a lot of
people did, a very different voice than Mike's-- though I enjoy him too.

So, please don't bother me trying to explain that you have cause to believe
Mike is a fake or Jane was a fake or whatever. I truly don't give two hoots
what you think about it. Think what you like. I do.

Annoyed
Klonda

wench

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Nov 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/19/99
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sides we all grieve in different manners. I found the computer during that time
and learned how to chat on-line. Was easier because no one knew what was
happening and so they never reminded me about anything.

shut up and go back under your rock.

wenchX2
<who has never been this mad at the puter screen before>

Ted

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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I think Mike is full of shit and that Askeptic has kind of nailed him. What's
wrong with using a different name to point out uncomfortable opinions if you wish
to maintain your own standing in this nasty name-calling maelstrom of a newsgroup?
What IS wrong is using a sockpuppet, or even your original screenname, to
intentionally deceive others and spread damaging information about others.

In my opinion, the veracity of Mike's story is subject to proper skepticism and is
a matter of opinion, not sockpuppetry.

Ted

Belle

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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let me get this straight...
someone close to mike dies, and you chose not to believe it, simply because it
doesnt suit you.
there is SO much i could say here about this... but im not.
im just wondering if this sounds bad to anyone else.
belle-trying damn hard to take the high road on this one

Naomi Darvell wrote:

> x-no-archive: yes

> I know what you mean, Ted.
>
> I never ask questions like that, about people's identities, because I am afraid
> to look dumb and I have been very dumb about this stuff often. I have
> corresponded with men pretending to be women for *months* and not figured it
> out.
>
> One possible point against using a fake name is the effect it will have on the
> person one is questioning. If it happened to me I would get really paranoid and
> wonder who was doing this, and worry that it might be someone I thought of as a
> friend.
>
> It also does trigger invidious little thoughts in other people's minds: who is
> this sockpuppet? Anyone I know? I am sure plenty of people have been unfairly
> accused or suspected of having sockpuppets.
>
> Aside to Mike, if you're reading this: I did wonder whether the story of Jane's
> death was made up. I decided not to believe it, because believing it would be
> too unpleasant. (During 1999 I've lost 2 immediate family members to nasty
> forms of cancer at early ages, and I don't want to think anyone would make up
> something like that.)
>
> Naomi D.
> Reply to darve...@aol.com

Kaja8948

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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<snip>

> I decided not to believe it, because believing it would be
>> too unpleasant.

I read this as saying Naomi didn't want to believe that Mike made it up,not
that she didn't believe that Jane died of cancer. Please feel free to correct
me if I misunderstood.......
~~Michelle~~

bunst...@my-deja.com

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Nov 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/24/99
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In article <3839F188...@crosslink.net>,
Ted <ted...@crosslink.net> wrote:

> What's wrong with using a different name to
> point out uncomfortable opinions if you wish
> to maintain your own standing in this nasty
> name-calling maelstrom of a newsgroup?

It's the cowards way out, that's what’s wrong with it! If you don't
have the guts to stand by your own assertions you shouldn't make them.
In addition "UCW Sarah" makes a good point (for a change) in pointing
out that innocent parties may end up bearing the blame for the words of
a coward.

Other that that, there's nothing wrong with it.

Bunstinger

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