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Umar Farooqi

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Aug 18, 2008, 3:55:40 AM8/18/08
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Hi

I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby gal
friend..

some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.

Weight

Man: 115 Lbs
Gal: 170 Lbs


Height:

Man: 5' 6"
Gal: 5' 0"

Age

Man: 29 Yrs
Gal: 21 Yrs

Experience of Sex

Man: 5 years with different GF
Gal: unknown

seeking for any good and useful comments..

Tom Allen

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Aug 18, 2008, 9:21:09 PM8/18/08
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Umar Farooqi wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby gal
> friend..
>
> some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.

::settles back with some popcorn and a cool drink to watch the show::

--
Tom Allen
http://vanillaedge.wordpress.com

"I don't have multiple orgasms, myself... I am, however, known to be a
carrier."

suzee

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Aug 18, 2008, 11:16:27 PM8/18/08
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Tom Allen wrote:
> Umar Farooqi wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby gal
>> friend..
>>
>> some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.
>
> ::settles back with some popcorn and a cool drink to watch the show::

Move over and don't hog the popcorn...

sue

Serene Vannoy

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Aug 19, 2008, 12:54:07 AM8/19/08
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You might try some of the following links:

http://www.rotunda.com/people/yohannon/fat_position.html
http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/fat_sex.html
http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/positions.html
http://fat-sex.livejournal.com
http://www.more2hug.com/sex3.html

Hope this helps.

Serene
--
"I am an agnostic only to the extent that I am agnostic about fairies at
the bottom of the garden." -- Richard Dawkins

Tom Allen

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Aug 19, 2008, 10:26:41 AM8/19/08
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Sit a little closer, I won't bite.

Much.

Want some more scotch?

--
Tom Allen
http://twitter.com/taomlin
http://vanillaedge.wordpress.com/

"I don't have multiple orgasms, myself. I am, however, known to be a
carrier."

suzee

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Aug 19, 2008, 10:35:32 AM8/19/08
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Tom Allen wrote:
> suzee wrote:
>> Tom Allen wrote:
>>> Umar Farooqi wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby gal friend..
>>>>
>>>> some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.
>>> ::settles back with some popcorn and a cool drink to watch the show::
>> Move over and don't hog the popcorn...
>
> Sit a little closer, I won't bite.
>
> Much.

In all the right places, I hope....
>
> Want some more scotch?

Yes please.

sue

Tom Allen

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Aug 19, 2008, 12:21:30 PM8/19/08
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suzee wrote:
> Tom Allen wrote:
>> suzee wrote:
>>> Tom Allen wrote:
>>>> Umar Farooqi wrote:
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby
>>>>> gal friend..
>>>>>
>>>>> some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.
>>>> ::settles back with some popcorn and a cool drink to watch the show::
>>> Move over and don't hog the popcorn...
>>
>> Sit a little closer, I won't bite.
>>
>> Much.
>
> In all the right places, I hope....

You won't be disappointed.

>
>> Want some more scotch?
>
> Yes please.

::pours::

::glances at watch::

The idea has promise, but it's a bit short on action at the moment.

::passes popcorn::

::scooches closer::

suzee

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Aug 19, 2008, 1:04:31 PM8/19/08
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Tom Allen wrote:
> suzee wrote:
>> Tom Allen wrote:
>>> suzee wrote:
>>>> Tom Allen wrote:
>>>>> Umar Farooqi wrote:
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby
>>>>>> gal friend..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.
>>>>> ::settles back with some popcorn and a cool drink to watch the show::
>>>> Move over and don't hog the popcorn...
>>> Sit a little closer, I won't bite.
>>>
>>> Much.
>> In all the right places, I hope....
>
> You won't be disappointed.
>
>>> Want some more scotch?
>> Yes please.
>
> ::pours::

Oh thank you!

> ::glances at watch::
>
> The idea has promise, but it's a bit short on action at the moment.
>
> ::passes popcorn::
>
> ::scooches closer::

::snuggles up a bit::

sue

Tom Allen

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Aug 19, 2008, 3:00:27 PM8/19/08
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Hey, I learned something: one of our favorite positions has a name:

====
SIM'S POSITION-

This position, named after a famous surgeon-gynecologist, is a modified
rear-entry position, recommended by Dr. Friedman for instances where the
woman is obese and the man is not. The woman begins by lying on one
side. Then, the doctor informs us, "she draws her upper leg all the way
up (toward her head) so that the knee of the upper leg is opposite the
hip of her lower leg. This position makes her vagina readily accessible
from slightly above and behind. The man kneels behind her, with one knee
on each side of her straight leg, and makes entry from the rear at a
slight sideward angle. If necessary, he can raise his body slightly by
means of a pillow below each knee."

Frankly, I think this just makes the whole process unnecessarily
complex, and it seems to me that a woman would need ballet training
before she could lift her knee to the desired height, even assuming that
other parts of her anatomy didn't get in the way. Nevertheless, this is
just a personal prejudice. I can't speak from experience.
=====

Gosh, I don't think it's awkward at all! I've introduced several
partners to this, all to the good. An advantage is that (assuming that
neither of you are massive) you can achieve some pretty deep
penetration. You also get to fondle your partner as she's laying there,
which is never a bad thing.

It does require some decent back and thigh muscles if you're going to be
using it for more than a few minutes, because the man can't really brace
himself against anything. He can, however, lean sort of forward and
toward her back for support.

Can't remember where I got this one. Leafing through the Kama Sutras
when I was in my 20s, I would guess. I can't remember what the original
name of this was.

Norton

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Aug 19, 2008, 6:16:40 PM8/19/08
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Tom Allen <taoml...@mesbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Umar Farooqi wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby gal
>> friend..
>>
>> some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.

>::settles back with some popcorn and a cool drink to watch the show::

Mind if I join you?

--
--- Norton

Norton

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Aug 19, 2008, 6:18:03 PM8/19/08
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Tom Allen <taom...@spamsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>suzee wrote:
>> Tom Allen wrote:
>>> Umar Farooqi wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby
>>>> gal friend..
>>>>
>>>> some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.
>>>
>>> ::settles back with some popcorn and a cool drink to watch the show::
>>
>> Move over and don't hog the popcorn...

>Sit a little closer, I won't bite.

>Much.

>Want some more scotch?

Candy isn't dandy enough? ;-)

--
--- Norton

William Cook

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Aug 19, 2008, 6:51:39 PM8/19/08
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Make sure you has a 12 inch penis to get passed de belly fat


Tom Allen

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Aug 19, 2008, 9:33:45 PM8/19/08
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Mind if Suzee's hands have been rummaging around in the popcorn bowl?

Tom Allen

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Aug 19, 2008, 9:36:17 PM8/19/08
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William Cook wrote:
> Make sure you has a 12 inch penis to get passed de belly fat

Naw, you don't even need dat. Awl you gotta do is lay her on her back,
give her a good hard smack on de ass. Dat'll make her wet, and den slam
de meat home.

Seduckshun skillz. I haz dem.

suzee

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Aug 19, 2008, 10:49:18 PM8/19/08
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Only if it's dark chocolate. Goes well with scotch...

sue

Norton

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Aug 23, 2008, 11:52:01 PM8/23/08
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Tom Allen <taoml...@mesbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Norton wrote:
>> Tom Allen <taoml...@mesbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> Umar Farooqi wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby gal
>>>> friend..
>>>>
>>>> some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.
>>
>>> ::settles back with some popcorn and a cool drink to watch the show::
>>
>> Mind if I join you?

>Mind if Suzee's hands have been rummaging around in the popcorn bowl?

Not at all.

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--- Norton

Norton

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Aug 23, 2008, 11:56:09 PM8/23/08
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Back in the day I used to consume a fairly large amount of
scotch. On the rocks, of course.

Never mixed it with chocolate. That was another but separate
pleasure.

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--- Norton

suzee

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Aug 24, 2008, 12:40:00 AM8/24/08
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Generally I like red wine with chocolate, but found it does well with
whiskey, too.

sue

Gordon

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Aug 24, 2008, 1:47:52 AM8/24/08
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Scotch, is whisky yes? The Irish and the U S of A folks put an e in their
whisk(e)y. It does make it taste different :-)

BTW, I like chocolate with many things. With itself is best though

suzee

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Aug 24, 2008, 10:54:09 AM8/24/08
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Yes, and I usually have to settle for Canadian, Irish is too pricey and
I don't know Scotches well enough to know which I like.

> BTW, I like chocolate with many things. With itself is best though

Always.

sue

Tom Allen

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Aug 24, 2008, 11:12:14 AM8/24/08
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suzee wrote:
> Gordon wrote:

>> Scotch, is whisky yes? The Irish and the U S of A folks put an e in their
>> whisk(e)y. It does make it taste different :-)

I've seen it spelt both ways, but whiskey is more common in the US.

>
> Yes, and I usually have to settle for Canadian, Irish is too pricey and
> I don't know Scotches well enough to know which I like.

Canadian is usually more smooth, and generally it's blended. I don't
think I've ever seen "single malt" Candian.


>> BTW, I like chocolate with many things. With itself is best though
>
> Always.

Chocolate. Mmmmmm.

"I don't have multiple orgasms, myself... I am, however, known to be a
carrier."

suzee

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Aug 24, 2008, 6:38:35 PM8/24/08
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Tom Allen wrote:
> suzee wrote:
>> Gordon wrote:
>
>>> Scotch, is whisky yes? The Irish and the U S of A folks put an e in their
>>> whisk(e)y. It does make it taste different :-)
>
> I've seen it spelt both ways, but whiskey is more common in the US.
>
>> Yes, and I usually have to settle for Canadian, Irish is too pricey and
>> I don't know Scotches well enough to know which I like.
>
> Canadian is usually more smooth, and generally it's blended. I don't
> think I've ever seen "single malt" Candian.

Would you believe there's a brand of Canadian I like that I couldn't
find in Canada? And it wasn't Black Velvet...

sue

Tom Allen

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Aug 24, 2008, 8:13:12 PM8/24/08
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suzee wrote:
> Tom Allen wrote:

>> Canadian is usually more smooth, and generally it's blended. I don't
>> think I've ever seen "single malt" Candian.
>
> Would you believe there's a brand of Canadian I like that I couldn't
> find in Canada? And it wasn't Black Velvet...

Maybe it was really made in Montana?

What is it?

ObSex: I've never had sex in Montana. It's one of the 40+ states that
I've never had sex in.

Hmm. Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey,
Pennsylvania, Illinois, California, North Carolina, Florida. Yup, 40.

I only put that in because the last time we had a discussion about food
and liquor we got spanked. Not that I'm complaining - usually it costs
me $250 an hour for that...

suzee

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Aug 24, 2008, 8:45:41 PM8/24/08
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Tom Allen wrote:
> suzee wrote:
>> Tom Allen wrote:
>
>>> Canadian is usually more smooth, and generally it's blended. I don't
>>> think I've ever seen "single malt" Candian.
>> Would you believe there's a brand of Canadian I like that I couldn't
>> find in Canada? And it wasn't Black Velvet...
>
> Maybe it was really made in Montana?
>
> What is it?

MacNaughton's. So far I've only seen it available in E. WA and N. Idaho
liquor stores. Though it says it's made for and imported by the John
Macnaughton Ltd of Kentucky, so it may be exported only.


>
> ObSex: I've never had sex in Montana. It's one of the 40+ states that
> I've never had sex in.

I've been there, a couple times with my exbf, and we might have had sex
while there.

> Hmm. Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey,
> Pennsylvania, Illinois, California, North Carolina, Florida. Yup, 40.
>
> I only put that in because the last time we had a discussion about food
> and liquor we got spanked. Not that I'm complaining - usually it costs
> me $250 an hour for that...

You wish....

sue

Tom Allen

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Aug 24, 2008, 8:59:08 PM8/24/08
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Yes. Yes, I do :-\

Tom Allen

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Aug 27, 2008, 4:14:36 PM8/27/08
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Norton wrote:
> suzee <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
>> Norton wrote:
>>> Tom Allen <taom...@spamsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> suzee wrote:
>>>>> Tom Allen wrote:
>>>>>> Umar Farooqi wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby
>>>>>>> gal friend..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.
>>>>>> ::settles back with some popcorn and a cool drink to watch the show::
>>>>> Move over and don't hog the popcorn...
>>>> Sit a little closer, I won't bite.
>>>> Much.
>>>> Want some more scotch?
>>> Candy isn't dandy enough? ;-)
>
>> Only if it's dark chocolate. Goes well with scotch...
>
> Back in the day I used to consume a fairly large amount of
> scotch. On the rocks, of course.

That's harsh, dude. Normally I consume mine on a barstool.

Hey, where's the OP? Did we answer his question already?

Norton

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Aug 27, 2008, 10:03:06 PM8/27/08
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I find that it (chocolate) does well with women too... ;-)

--
--- Norton

Serene Vannoy

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Aug 27, 2008, 10:07:10 PM8/27/08
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Heh. I don't like it. Neither does my mom or my kid. Yes, we're weirdos
in so many ways.

Norton

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Aug 27, 2008, 10:10:14 PM8/27/08
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Tom Allen <taoml...@mesbcglobal.net> wrote:
>suzee wrote:
>> Tom Allen wrote:

>>> Canadian is usually more smooth, and generally it's blended. I don't
>>> think I've ever seen "single malt" Candian.
>>
>> Would you believe there's a brand of Canadian I like that I couldn't
>> find in Canada? And it wasn't Black Velvet...

>Maybe it was really made in Montana?

>What is it?

>ObSex: I've never had sex in Montana. It's one of the 40+ states that
>I've never had sex in.

>Hmm. Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey,
>Pennsylvania, Illinois, California, North Carolina, Florida. Yup, 40.

>I only put that in because the last time we had a discussion about food
>and liquor we got spanked. Not that I'm complaining - usually it costs
>me $250 an hour for that...

Go back to posting terrible limericks and you will get
volunteers willing to beat on you for a while...

;-)

--
--- Norton

suzee

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Aug 27, 2008, 11:27:27 PM8/27/08
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And proud of it, I'm sure....

sue

Serene Vannoy

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Aug 27, 2008, 11:38:07 PM8/27/08
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suzee wrote:
> Serene Vannoy wrote:
[chocolate]

>> Heh. I don't like it. Neither does my mom or my kid. Yes, we're
>> weirdos in so many ways.
>
> And proud of it, I'm sure....

Don't know that I'd say proud, but our particular styles of weirdness
are working for us.

ObSex: I was just having a discussion elsenet about how people assume
that because I'm bi and poly, I have tons of sex partners and go to sex
parties. They're sometimes disappointed at the reality. It's kind of
funny to be an oddity because of sex I'm *not* having, to tell you the
truth. :-)

suzee

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Aug 27, 2008, 11:42:46 PM8/27/08
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Serene Vannoy wrote:
> suzee wrote:
>> Serene Vannoy wrote:
> [chocolate]
>>> Heh. I don't like it. Neither does my mom or my kid. Yes, we're
>>> weirdos in so many ways.
>> And proud of it, I'm sure....
>
> Don't know that I'd say proud, but our particular styles of weirdness
> are working for us.
>
> ObSex: I was just having a discussion elsenet about how people assume
> that because I'm bi and poly, I have tons of sex partners and go to sex
> parties. They're sometimes disappointed at the reality. It's kind of
> funny to be an oddity because of sex I'm *not* having, to tell you the
> truth. :-)
>

Yes, I've read your posts about this before. Kinda puts a dent in other
people's vision of what bi and poly can be like...

sue

Matthew Vincent

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Aug 27, 2008, 11:38:55 PM8/27/08
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On Aug 19, 4:54 pm, Serene Vannoy <ser...@serenepages.org> wrote:
> Umar Farooqi wrote:
> > Hi
>
> > I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby gal
> > friend..
>
> > some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.
>
> > Weight
>
> > Man: 115 Lbs
> > Gal:    170 Lbs
>
> > Height:
>
> > Man: 5' 6"
> > Gal:   5' 0"
>
> > Age
>
> > Man: 29 Yrs
> > Gal:    21 Yrs
>
> > Experience of Sex
>
> > Man:    5 years with different GF
> > Gal:     unknown
>
> > seeking for any good and useful comments..
>
> You might try some of the following links:
>
> http://www.rotunda.com/people/yohannon/fat_position.htmlhttp://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/fat_sex.htmlhttp://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/positions.htmlhttp://fat-sex.livejournal.comhttp://www.more2hug.com/sex3.html
>
> Hope this helps.

Thanks for the links -- some very hot stuff there.

Matthew

Serene Vannoy

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Aug 28, 2008, 1:02:42 AM8/28/08
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Yep. Hope it helps the OP. Most of my partners have been fat (as am I),
but I haven't had any trouble finding good positions with thin partners.

Umar Farooqi

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Aug 25, 2008, 1:00:56 AM8/25/08
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> http://www.rotunda.com/people/yohannon/fat_position.html
> http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/fat_sex.html
> http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/positions.html
> http://fat-sex.livejournal.com
> http://www.more2hug.com/sex3.html
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Serene

hi Serene

I have seen the stuff you have posted for me, It really helped me, I have
enjoyed a great sex last night.

Thanks alot

Omree


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> Umar Farooqi wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby gal
>> friend..
>>
>> some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.
>>
>> Weight
>>
>> Man: 115 Lbs
>> Gal: 170 Lbs
>>
>>
>> Height:
>>
>> Man: 5' 6"
>> Gal: 5' 0"
>>
>> Age
>>
>> Man: 29 Yrs
>> Gal: 21 Yrs
>>
>> Experience of Sex
>>
>> Man: 5 years with different GF
>> Gal: unknown
>>

Tom Allen

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Aug 28, 2008, 8:01:22 AM8/28/08
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Umar Farooqi wrote:
>> http://www.rotunda.com/people/yohannon/fat_position.html
>> http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/fat_sex.html
>> http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/positions.html
>> http://fat-sex.livejournal.com
>> http://www.more2hug.com/sex3.html
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Serene
>
> hi Serene
>
> I have seen the stuff you have posted for me, It really helped me, I have
> enjoyed a great sex last night.
>
> Thanks alot
>

Yes! Another satisfied customer!

"I don't have multiple orgasms, myself... I am, however, known to be a
carrier."

Serene Vannoy

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Aug 28, 2008, 9:35:21 AM8/28/08
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Umar Farooqi wrote:
>> http://www.rotunda.com/people/yohannon/fat_position.html
>> http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/fat_sex.html
>> http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/positions.html
>> http://fat-sex.livejournal.com
>> http://www.more2hug.com/sex3.html
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Serene
>
> hi Serene
>
> I have seen the stuff you have posted for me, It really helped me, I have
> enjoyed a great sex last night.
>
> Thanks alot

Glad to hear it, and you're welcome. Hope you'll stick around. It's a
pretty good group, even if it's filled with smartasses.

Serene (a smartass, as well)

darklily

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Aug 28, 2008, 3:28:46 PM8/28/08
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> the bottom of the garden." -- Richard Dawkins- Hide quoted text -
>

Hey Serene...is Umar from that other group? I have sex on the brain
(and I haven't been able to get away from that condition for about the
past 3 weeks) and just can't rely on my memory.

ObSex: Met someone new (about 3 weeks ago). Is a friend of somebody I
work with. Was up till 2AM one night talking and flirting with him in
my living room (he crashed in the guest room). Have spent much of the
last several weeks not getting work or much else done and chatting
online with him. Talk about sexual tension. The story is more for the
rest of you all...Serene has heard about it already elsewhere I think.


Darklily


Serene Vannoy

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Aug 28, 2008, 7:52:11 PM8/28/08
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darklily wrote:
> On Aug 28, 9:35 am, Serene Vannoy <ser...@serenepages.org> wrote:
>> Umar Farooqi wrote:
>>>> http://www.rotunda.com/people/yohannon/fat_position.html
>>>> http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/fat_sex.html
>>>> http://www.dimensionsmagazine.com/dimtext/positions/positions.html
>>>> http://fat-sex.livejournal.com
>>>> http://www.more2hug.com/sex3.html
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>> Serene
>>> hi Serene
>>> I have seen the stuff you have posted for me, It really helped me, I have
>>> enjoyed a great sex last night.
>>> Thanks alot
>> Glad to hear it, and you're welcome. Hope you'll stick around. It's a
>> pretty good group, even if it's filled with smartasses.
>>
>> Serene (a smartass, as well)
>>
>> --
>> "I am an agnostic only to the extent that I am agnostic about fairies at
>> the bottom of the garden." -- Richard Dawkins- Hide quoted text -
>>
>
> Hey Serene...is Umar from that other group?

Nope; that's a whole other Umar, whose real name is actually something
different.

> I have sex on the brain
> (and I haven't been able to get away from that condition for about the
> past 3 weeks) and just can't rely on my memory.

:-)

> ObSex: Met someone new (about 3 weeks ago). Is a friend of somebody I
> work with. Was up till 2AM one night talking and flirting with him in
> my living room (he crashed in the guest room). Have spent much of the
> last several weeks not getting work or much else done and chatting
> online with him. Talk about sexual tension. The story is more for the
> rest of you all...Serene has heard about it already elsewhere I think.

I totally love NRE and sexual tension. Can't concentrate for shit when
it's happening, but I love the feeling a lot.

Serene

Norton

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Aug 28, 2008, 10:52:04 PM8/28/08
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Norton is never limited to one approach... <grin>

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Tom Allen

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Aug 29, 2008, 11:38:57 AM8/29/08
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Serene Vannoy wrote:

> I totally love NRE and sexual tension. Can't concentrate for shit when
> it's happening, but I love the feeling a lot.

New Relationship Endorphins? Just clarifying.

Same thing happens to me when I get a new power tool.

"I don't have multiple orgasms, myself. I am, however, known to be a
carrier."

darklily

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Aug 29, 2008, 11:51:37 AM8/29/08
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On Aug 29, 11:38 am, Tom Allen <taomli...@SPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Serene Vannoy wrote:
> > I totally love NRE and sexual tension. Can't concentrate for shit when
> > it's happening, but I love the feeling a lot.
>
> New Relationship Endorphins? Just clarifying.

Close. New Relationship Energy (right, Serene?).

>
> Same thing happens to me when I get a new power tool.

Uh huh...remind me not to borrow your power tools. :P


Glad to see you are around...there have been a few people wondering
(on your blog) where you've been. No HNT?

Darklily


suzee

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Tom Allen wrote:
> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>
>> I totally love NRE and sexual tension. Can't concentrate for shit when
>> it's happening, but I love the feeling a lot.
>
> New Relationship Endorphins? Just clarifying.
>
> Same thing happens to me when I get a new power tool.

Probably... it's new relationship energy.

sure

Tom Allen

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Ah, the smell of the oil when you open the box. The heft as you hold it
in your hand. The thrill of anticipation as you carry it over to the
workbench...

Tom Allen

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Tom Allen

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darklily wrote:
> On Aug 29, 11:38 am, Tom Allen <taomli...@SPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>>> I totally love NRE and sexual tension. Can't concentrate for shit when
>>> it's happening, but I love the feeling a lot.
>> New Relationship Endorphins? Just clarifying.
>
> Close. New Relationship Energy (right, Serene?).
>
>> Same thing happens to me when I get a new power tool.
>
> Uh huh...remind me not to borrow your power tools. :P

Hah! Like I'd loan my power tools to just *anybody.*

Besides, maybe we'd have to work very closely so I could show you how to
use them. . . properly.


> Glad to see you are around...there have been a few people wondering
> (on your blog) where you've been. No HNT?

I've been juggling a few other projects the past week or so. Plus I've
got people out at work, and I'm trying to clean out the garage and attic
at home. And I've been spending a lot of time working out and biking
instead of being on teh internetz lately.

I'm becoming one of those fitness-obsessed people - although hopefully
I'm not going to be one of those "reformed smoker" types who tells you
"Don't have that cheeseburger and milkshake, it's too many fat calories.
Here, have this nice banana and a handful of nuts, instead."

And I'll get to the HNTs, I promise. I've just been trying to lose a few
more pounds and a couple of inches off the gut. It's making my wife
crazy, but I keep reminding her that I'll be one of the healthiest (and
hottest) 50 year olds in our social group.

Serene Vannoy

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Aug 30, 2008, 6:59:56 AM8/30/08
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Tom Allen wrote:
> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>
>> I totally love NRE and sexual tension. Can't concentrate for shit when
>> it's happening, but I love the feeling a lot.
>
> New Relationship Endorphins? Just clarifying.

Yeah, or New Relationship Energy.

>
> Same thing happens to me when I get a new power tool.

I can get NRE for people or projects; it doesn't have to be about
sex/romance.

Tom Allen

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Aug 30, 2008, 8:38:30 AM8/30/08
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Serene Vannoy wrote:
> Tom Allen wrote:
>> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>>
>>> I totally love NRE and sexual tension. Can't concentrate for shit
>>> when it's happening, but I love the feeling a lot.
>>
>> New Relationship Endorphins? Just clarifying.
>
> Yeah, or New Relationship Energy.
>
>>
>> Same thing happens to me when I get a new power tool.
>
> I can get NRE for people or projects; it doesn't have to be about
> sex/romance.

Yeah, but do you get it for new power tools?

Damn, I haven't bought myself a new powertool in a long time. I need a
fix now.

"I don't have multiple orgasms, myself... I am, however, known to be a
carrier."

Serene Vannoy

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Tom Allen wrote:
> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>> Tom Allen wrote:
>>> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>>>
>>>> I totally love NRE and sexual tension. Can't concentrate for shit
>>>> when it's happening, but I love the feeling a lot.
>>>
>>> New Relationship Endorphins? Just clarifying.
>>
>> Yeah, or New Relationship Energy.
>>
>>>
>>> Same thing happens to me when I get a new power tool.
>>
>> I can get NRE for people or projects; it doesn't have to be about
>> sex/romance.
>
> Yeah, but do you get it for new power tools?

Of course I do. I'm a dyke. ;-)

> Damn, I haven't bought myself a new powertool in a long time. I need a
> fix now.

The next one I want is a router. I want to start building some simple
furniture, and I think that would make things a lot simpler. (I have my
own jigsaw, power drill/driver, and a few other things, but I'm not a
serious do-it-yourselfer, so they're no great shakes. Still, they make
me happy.)

Umar Farooqi

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Aug 29, 2008, 12:11:02 AM8/29/08
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Hi Darklily

> Hey Serene...is Umar from that other group?

Let me clear, I am a silent member of this group since last three years,
eventually I posted but very llttle indeed with the nick of Omree, remember
me???

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Irfon-Kim Ahmad

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Well, more what bi and poly are like for many people. Certainly they
*can* be like what Serene described people expecting. (On the other
hand, my bi poly lifestyle contains contains about as many different sex
partners and sex parties as Serene's, so certainly the "glamoroush poly
lifestyle" reality is fairly comfortable and ordinary for many.)
.

Irfon-Kim Ahmad

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Tom Allen <taom...@SPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote:

> SIM'S POSITION-
>
> This position, named after a famous surgeon-gynecologist, is a modified
> rear-entry position, recommended by Dr. Friedman for instances where the
> woman is obese and the man is not. The woman begins by lying on one
> side. Then, the doctor informs us, "she draws her upper leg all the way
> up (toward her head) so that the knee of the upper leg is opposite the
> hip of her lower leg. This position makes her vagina readily accessible
> from slightly above and behind. The man kneels behind her, with one knee
> on each side of her straight leg, and makes entry from the rear at a
> slight sideward angle. If necessary, he can raise his body slightly by
> means of a pillow below each knee."

Hey, I've always liked this one too and also never knew it had a name.
.

Irfon-Kim Ahmad

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Tom Allen <taoml...@MEsbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>> Tom Allen wrote:
>>> Serene Vannoy wrote:
>>>
>>>> I totally love NRE and sexual tension. Can't concentrate for shit
>>>> when it's happening, but I love the feeling a lot.
>>>
>>> New Relationship Endorphins? Just clarifying.
>>
>> Yeah, or New Relationship Energy.
>>
>>>
>>> Same thing happens to me when I get a new power tool.
>>
>> I can get NRE for people or projects; it doesn't have to be about
>> sex/romance.
>
> Yeah, but do you get it for new power tools?
>
> Damn, I haven't bought myself a new powertool in a long time. I need a
> fix now.

I really get it for new music software. I spent a week or so in HEAVY
NRE over Nodal a couple of weeks back. I need to visit it again soon.
.

suzee

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Yes, that's why I wrote *can* be like, rather than *are* like...

sue

Tom Allen

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It's a stoopid name, though, in't it? It needs something with more...
rock'n'roll.

"I don't have multiple orgasms, myself. I am, however, known to be a
carrier."

Irfon-Kim Ahmad

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Tom Allen <taom...@SPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Irfon-Kim Ahmad wrote:
>> Tom Allen <taom...@SPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>> SIM'S POSITION-
>>>
>>> This position, named after a famous surgeon-gynecologist, is a modified
>>> rear-entry position, recommended by Dr. Friedman for instances where the
>>> woman is obese and the man is not. The woman begins by lying on one
>>> side. Then, the doctor informs us, "she draws her upper leg all the way
>>> up (toward her head) so that the knee of the upper leg is opposite the
>>> hip of her lower leg. This position makes her vagina readily accessible
>>> from slightly above and behind. The man kneels behind her, with one knee
>>> on each side of her straight leg, and makes entry from the rear at a
>>> slight sideward angle. If necessary, he can raise his body slightly by
>>> means of a pillow below each knee."
>>
>> Hey, I've always liked this one too and also never knew it had a name.
>
> It's a stoopid name, though, in't it? It needs something with more...
> rock'n'roll.

Eddie Van Halen's Position? ;)
.

Tom Allen

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The Nugent?

suzee

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Tom Allen wrote:
> Irfon-Kim Ahmad wrote:
>> Tom Allen <taom...@SPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> Irfon-Kim Ahmad wrote:
>>>> Tom Allen <taom...@SPAMsbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> SIM'S POSITION-
>>>>>
>>>>> This position, named after a famous surgeon-gynecologist, is a modified
>>>>> rear-entry position, recommended by Dr. Friedman for instances where the
>>>>> woman is obese and the man is not. The woman begins by lying on one
>>>>> side. Then, the doctor informs us, "she draws her upper leg all the way
>>>>> up (toward her head) so that the knee of the upper leg is opposite the
>>>>> hip of her lower leg. This position makes her vagina readily accessible
>>>>> from slightly above and behind. The man kneels behind her, with one knee
>>>>> on each side of her straight leg, and makes entry from the rear at a
>>>>> slight sideward angle. If necessary, he can raise his body slightly by
>>>>> means of a pillow below each knee."
>>>> Hey, I've always liked this one too and also never knew it had a name.
>>> It's a stoopid name, though, in't it? It needs something with more...
>>> rock'n'roll.
>> Eddie Van Halen's Position? ;)
>
> The Nugent?

Or Da Nuge....

sue

Matthew Vincent

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I reckon the key characteristic of being poly is that one does not
find it aversive for one's partner(s), particularly one's primary
partner if applicable, to be intimate with others (if one does not
feel the need to assign ranks to one's partners at all, then this
would naturally also qualify.) In fact, if one does not foresee having
a long-term monogamous relationship then there's less of a rush to
finish experimenting before that time.

My primary partner lives in another country. We're both poly in terms
of our emotional makeup; we have other online partners but we've
decided to be temporarily monogamous in terms of real-life physical
sex until after we are living together in person.

Matthew

Serene Vannoy

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Matthew Vincent wrote:

> I reckon the key characteristic of being poly is that one does not
> find it aversive for one's partner(s), particularly one's primary
> partner if applicable, to be intimate with others (if one does not
> feel the need to assign ranks to one's partners at all, then this
> would naturally also qualify.)

I don't think that's the key characteristic for most of the poly people
I know. Rather, I think they key characteristic is that they feel
romantic/sexual love for more than one person at a time.

> In fact, if one does not foresee having
> a long-term monogamous relationship then there's less of a rush to
> finish experimenting before that time.

My poly relationships are not "experimental", and never have been.

Serene

Sam Murai

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"suzee" <su...@imbris.com> wrote in message
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> Tom Allen wrote:
>> suzee wrote:
>>> Tom Allen wrote:
>>>> suzee wrote:
>>>>> Tom Allen wrote:
>>>>>> Umar Farooqi wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am seeking some checklist for a thin man planning sex with chubby
>>>>>>> gal friend..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> some statistics are here to make the matter more clear.
>>>>>> ::settles back with some popcorn and a cool drink to watch the show::
>>>>> Move over and don't hog the popcorn...
>>>> Sit a little closer, I won't bite.
>>>>
>>>> Much.
>>> In all the right places, I hope....
>>
>> You won't be disappointed.
>>
>>>> Want some more scotch?
>>> Yes please.
>>
>> ::pours::
>
> Oh thank you!
>
>> ::glances at watch::
>>
>> The idea has promise, but it's a bit short on action at the moment.
>>
>> ::passes popcorn::
>>
>> ::scooches closer::
>
> ::snuggles up a bit::
>
> sue

Hey, will you guys just get a room!

-Sam >:(

suzee

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It's part of the appeal to be out in public....

sue

Tom Allen

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Yeah. You gotta work it. I mean, didn't you ever hear the joke:

An elderly man walks into a confessional and starts to recount a tale.

"I am 92 years old, have a wonderful wife of 70 years, many children,
grandchildren and great grandchildren," says the man. "But yesterday, I
picked up two 21-year-old girls, who were hitch-hiking. We went to a
hotel where I made love to each of them three times."

"Are you sorry for your sins?" the priest asks.

"What sins?" replies the man.

"What kind of a Catholic are you?" says the priest, clearly shocked by
the man's lack of shame.

"I'm not a Catholic, I'm Jewish." the man replies calmly.

"Well why on earth are you telling me all this?" asks the priest getting
impatient.

The man responds "Father... I'm telling EVERYBODY!"

Sam Murai

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"suzee" <su...@imbris.com> wrote in message
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> Sam Murai wrote:
>> "suzee" <su...@imbris.com> wrote in message


....

>>
>> Hey, will you guys just get a room!
>
> It's part of the appeal to be out in public....
>
> sue

Ah... the outdoor type.

-Sam

Matthew Vincent

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On Sep 8, 12:50 am, Serene Vannoy <ser...@serenepages.org> wrote:
> Matthew Vincent wrote:
> > I reckon the key characteristic of being poly is that one does not
> > find it aversive for one's partner(s), particularly one's primary
> > partner if applicable, to be intimate with others (if one does not
> > feel the need to assign ranks to one's partners at all, then this
> > would naturally also qualify.)
>
> I don't think that's the key characteristic for most of the poly people
> I know. Rather, I think they key characteristic is that they feel
> romantic/sexual love for more than one person at a time.

I agree in a sense -- and perhaps I should have said *a* key
characteristic, rather than *the* key characteristic of being poly. I
think the most salient characteristic one associates with being poly
is feeling romantic/sexual love for more than one person at a time,
but yet whether one can call oneself poly(-amorous) hinges more on
whether one feels comfortable with one's partner(s) doing the same
thing. If someone only wants to be with one person themselves but
doesn't mind that person having multiple relationships, they're not
poly. If someone wants to have multiple relationships but wants one or
more of their partners to be exclusive to them, then they're not poly,
either. The framework I'm suggesting is that one needs to both desire
multiple relationships for oneself plus accept their partners wanting
the same thing in order to be poly; there needs to be a premise of
equality involved. Naturally, if someone feels romantic/sexual love
for more than one person at a time then they will be more likely to
understand their partners feeling the same thing and not be bothered
by it, thus the two traits are likely to have a high positive
correlation with each other.

> > In fact, if one does not foresee having
> > a long-term monogamous relationship then there's less of a rush to
> > finish experimenting before that time.
>
> My poly relationships are not "experimental", and never have been.

Mine neither. My point was more to do with how some monogamous people
(and some people who end up in a long-term monogamous relationship,
whether this is their preference or not) have to deal with the issue
of whether they're restricted from being able to experiment with
anything outside a monogamous framework that they might still be
curious about.

Matthew

Serene Vannoy

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Matthew Vincent wrote:
> On Sep 8, 12:50 am, Serene Vannoy <ser...@serenepages.org> wrote:
>> Matthew Vincent wrote:
>>> I reckon the key characteristic of being poly is that one does not
>>> find it aversive for one's partner(s), particularly one's primary
>>> partner if applicable, to be intimate with others (if one does not
>>> feel the need to assign ranks to one's partners at all, then this
>>> would naturally also qualify.)
>> I don't think that's the key characteristic for most of the poly people
>> I know. Rather, I think they key characteristic is that they feel
>> romantic/sexual love for more than one person at a time.
>
> I agree in a sense -- and perhaps I should have said *a* key
> characteristic, rather than *the* key characteristic of being poly.

I still disagree. I know plenty of poly people who are not comfortable
with their partners' other relationships, and I don't think that makes
them less poly at all.

> I
> think the most salient characteristic one associates with being poly
> is feeling romantic/sexual love for more than one person at a time,
> but yet whether one can call oneself poly(-amorous) hinges more on
> whether one feels comfortable with one's partner(s) doing the same
> thing.

I disagree.

> If someone only wants to be with one person themselves but
> doesn't mind that person having multiple relationships, they're not
> poly. If someone wants to have multiple relationships but wants one or
> more of their partners to be exclusive to them, then they're not poly,
> either.

I disagree.

> The framework I'm suggesting is that one needs to both desire
> multiple relationships for oneself plus accept their partners wanting
> the same thing in order to be poly; there needs to be a premise of
> equality involved.

I disagree.

> Naturally, if someone feels romantic/sexual love
> for more than one person at a time then they will be more likely to
> understand their partners feeling the same thing and not be bothered
> by it, thus the two traits are likely to have a high positive
> correlation with each other.

Maybe. Still, I don't think that having jealous feelings, or not wanting
your [generic "you", not you in particular] partner to be poly while you
are, means you're not poly. It may be unfair and even untenable, but it
doesn't rule out your being poly.

Denny Wheeler

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On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:32:12 -0700, Serene Vannoy
<ser...@serenepages.org> wrote:

>I disagree.
(several times)

I'm with you--I think MV is trying to squeeze 'polyamorous' into a
far-too-narrow box. But at least he seems to have given the matter a
bit of thought.

--

"Every single religion that has a monotheistic god
winds up persecuting someone else."
-Philip Pullman

-denny-
(not as curmudgeonly as I useta be)

toramjero

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On Sep 28, 10:46 am, Matthew Vincent <mbvinc...@paradise.net.nz>
wrote:

A definition where people only need to be open to an idea without
actually practicing it seems rather abstract to me. But who am I to
know?

> > > In fact, if one does not foresee having
> > > a long-term monogamous relationship then there's less of a rush to
> > > finish experimenting before that time.
>
> > My poly relationships are not "experimental", and never have been.
>
> Mine neither. My point was more to do with how some monogamous people
> (and some people who end up in a long-term monogamous relationship,
> whether this is their preference or not) have to deal with the issue
> of whether they're restricted from being able to experiment with
> anything outside a monogamous framework that they might still be
> curious about.
>
> Matthew

So your point is? Sorry, but I don't quite see what you mean. So, some
people would not mind experimenting, are even curious about it, but
they are restricted from being able to "experiment". And? What is the
point? Isn't this what monogamy is about: promising that you won't
"experiment" even if you feel like it? What is your solution when
someone wants to "experiment"?

Let me take an example to make things clear. A and B are married. A
asked for an exclusive relationship (monogamy) and B agreed. (Whether
A agreed to the same thing or B asked for it as well is immaterial to
the discussion, actually.) One day, B feel like changing his or her
mind and "experiment". As far as I know, there are only three options:
-not doing what you want
-deception
-talk with A about changing the promises.

So what point did you want to make?

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