REPUBLICANS FOR HEALTH CARE!!!
John Fisher
It's not too late!!! Tell your Senators & Congress People to vote in
your best interest to give the American People new hope as we rise of
from a broken system of health delivery. Health care, for this
improving nation, is an investment in the future.
Give health a chance!!! Fight for it, NOW!!!-:) What is being
offered is for all the people, including REPUBLICANS!!!=:) NO MORE
NO'S when it comes to our health care needs!!! No one is immune from
the miserly ways of the health insurance companies and profiteers in
the health care industry. Don't let groups of nuts influence your
thinking on the topic. Amongst the vast amount of people dying too
soon, because they have no health insurance, could be you, your
family, your friends. Very few are so secure that adequate health
care need not be a concern for them.
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"John Fisher" <TaxSe...@aol.com> wrote in message
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How ironic!!!
Inhofe and Coburn going back home to celebrate the birth of the guy who
offered a public option, for free, to all!!!!
Killing, Inc.
> REPUBLICANS FOR HEALTH CARE!!!
>
> It's not too late!!! Tell your Senators & Congress People to vote in
> your best interest to give the American People new hope as we rise of
> from a broken system of health delivery. Health care, for this
> improving nation, is an investment in the future.
Republicans ARE voting in favor of health care, by opposing the
Democretin's attempt to destroy it.
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
"Killing, Inc." <i.am.kil...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Dec 23, 5:41 pm, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
Republicans ARE voting in favor of health care, by opposing the
Democretin's attempt to destroy it.
This is insightful here, folks. Read it carefully...what he said.
It's Orwellian Newspeak at it's finest.
John Fisher
> "John Fisher" <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
That Guy had his Finger on it!!! Remember, though,,he, also was
crucified for his beneficence!!!-:) Wingers are of the Ilk which
rejoiced at the stoning, and death, of the man who sought the public
option in his time!!
bvallely
> REPUBLICANS FOR HEALTH CARE!!!
.
> It's not too late!!! Tell your Senators & Congress People to vote in
> your best interest to give the American People new hope as we rise of
> from a broken system of health delivery. Health care, for this
> improving nation, is an investment in the future.
Vote for that mess? Are you insane? The HealthCare fiasco is going
to win the Republicans the House in a landslide and the Senate by a
squeaker.
If this fiasco passes, Americans will have to pay higher taxes and
much bigger insurance premiums four years before the "benefits" (such
as they are) take place. Why is that, you ask? Two reasons.....
1. Obama didn't want to run for re-election when the Americans had
first hand experience just how fucked up ObamaCare is, and...
2. Four years of higher premiums and taxes with no benefits are the
only way they could make the first six years of ObamaCare come close
to not bankrupting the country. What happens after that, when
ObamaCare doesn't have that four year, benefit free, cushion? Obama
will be writing him memoirs then, and doesn't give a fuck.
You guys wrote this bill without Republican help - you passed it
without Repubican help. Oh, and you had to BRIBE Democrats to vote
for this stinker.
Hold on, America.... 44 more weeks till the Repubicans take back power.
bvallely
.
> How ironic!!!
.
> Inhofe and Coburn going back home to celebrate the birth of the guy who
> offered a public option, for free, to all!!!!
Really? Jesus orded His followers to turn to Rome for free
CeaserCare? Because, correct me if I'm wrong, I was under the
impression that THE GOVERNMENT NAILED JESUS TO A PIECE OF WOOD AND LET
HIM DIE SLOWLY FOR THREE DAYS!!!!
bvallely
> That Guy had his Finger on it!!! Remember, though,,he, also was
> crucified for his beneficence!!!-:)
Yes - by the government.
John Fisher
Jesus didn't charge a premium!!!-:)
John Fisher
Are you trying to say Republicans are not "the government"??? Christ
was stoned by those who thought his charity too liberal!!! It is that
kind of mass (baggers, birthers, etc)led by Republicans in government,
who are now casting stones at those who now seek what Jesus sought!!!
Ever hear of "The Anti-Christ"???? Just look at Republican
politicians who where the hoy mantle as a Haloween costume or April
Fool prank!!!1
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
"bvallely" <bval...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Yeah, valleygrl. The "GOVERNMENT" did it.
lol
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On Dec 24, 3:44?am, bvallely <bvall...@aol.com> wrote:
> .> That Guy had his Finger on it!!! ? Remember, though,,he, also ?was
> > crucified for his beneficence!!!-:) ?
>
> .
> Yes - by the government.
Are you trying to say Republicans are not "the government"??? Christ
was stoned by those who thought his charity too liberal!!! It is that
kind of mass (baggers, birthers, etc)led by Republicans in government,
who are now casting stones at those who now seek what Jesus sought!!!
Ever hear of "The Anti-Christ"???? Just look at Republican
politicians who where the hoy mantle as a Haloween costume or April
Fool prank!!!1
========
Repubs are more like Pilate, than an anti-christ.
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"The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead" <ki...@LLconservatives.us> wrote in
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Fat Pig Limpballs - at it's finest.
GOP Altered History
.
> REPUBLICANS FOR HEALTH CARE!!!
.
> It's not too late!!! Tell your Senators & Congress People to vote in
> your best interest to give the American People new hope as we rise of
> from a broken system of health delivery. Health care, for this
> improving nation, is an investment in the future.
.
Vote for that mess? Are you insane? The HealthCare fiasco is going
to win the Republicans the House in a landslide and the Senate by a
squeaker.
If this fiasco passes, Americans will have to pay higher taxes and
much bigger insurance premiums four years before the "benefits" (such
as they are) take place. Why is that, you ask? Two reasons.....
====================
"SOME" will pay higher. The ones who've gotten a free ride for their whole
lives.
GLOBALIST
sit with their fingers up their asses doing jack shit.
Jim Higgins
>
<flushed>
Another morphing toilet mouth to flush.
--
Civis Romanus Sum
bvallely
> > .> That Guy had his Finger on it!!! Remember, though,,he, also was
> > > crucified for his beneficence!!!-:)
.
> > Yes - by the government.
.
> Are you trying to say Republicans are not "the government"??? >
Not at all. However, Christ was VERY clear on this point.
Matthew 22:15-33240
15 Then the Pharisees went out and planned together to entrap him with
his own words.
16 They sent to him their disciples along with the Herodians, saying,
Teacher, we know that You are truthful, and teach the way of God in
accordance with the truth. You do not court anyone's favor because you
show no partiality.
17 Tell us then, what do you think? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar
or not??
18 But Jesus realized their evil intentions and said, "Hypocrites! Why
are you testing Me?
19 Show Me the coin used for the tax." So they brought him a
denarius.
20 Jesus said to them, "Whose image is this, and whose inscription"
21 They replied, "Caesar's." He said to them, "Then give to Caesar the
things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."
.
> Christ was stoned by those who thought his charity too liberal!!! >
.
1. Christ wasn't stoned; He was crucified.
2. He was not crucified for being "too liberal," but for blasphemy.
Why should I take spiritual counseling from a dolt who didn't know
Christ was crucified? How is it even possible to grow up in Western
Culture, and not know of the crucifixion?
.
> It is that kind of mass (baggers, birthers, etc)led by Republicans in government,
> who are now casting stones at those who now seek what Jesus sought!!!>
.
What do you think Jesus would have said about the Democrats, after he
learned that Kevin Jennings was a "Safe School Czar"? When Rev.
Wright, supposedly a Christian, screamed "God Damn America?" How
about Democrats who use the force of law to compel Christians to
unwillingly perform abortions? Or a Healthcare bill that forced
Christians to pay for abortions?
> Ever hear of "The Anti-Christ"???? Just look at Republican
> politicians who where the hoy mantle as a Haloween costume or April
> Fool prank!!!1>
.
How about if I look at the ACLU, which openly works to reduce
Christianity to insignificance?
bvallely
<k...@LLconservatives.us> wrote:
> "bvallely" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1bbbfa14-ad8e-469d...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > .
> >> How ironic!!!
> > .
> >> Inhofe and Coburn going back home to celebrate the birth of the guy who
> >> offered a public option, for free, to all!!!!
> > .
> > Really? Jesus orded His followers to turn to Rome for free
> > CeaserCare? Because, correct me if I'm wrong, I was under the
> > impression that THE GOVERNMENT NAILED JESUS TO A PIECE OF WOOD AND LET
> > HIM DIE SLOWLY FOR THREE DAYS!!!!
> Yeah, valleygrl. The "GOVERNMENT" did it.
> lol
,
Yes, the government did exactly that. Seriously, do you know so
little about history?
bvallely
> "bvallely" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0620ac7d-922c-4866...@o9g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> .> REPUBLICANS FOR HEALTH CARE!!!
> .
> > It's not too late!!! Tell your Senators & Congress People to vote in
> > your best interest to give the American People new hope as we rise of
> > from a broken system of health delivery. Health care, for this
> > improving nation, is an investment in the future.
.
> Vote for that mess? Are you insane? The HealthCare fiasco is going
> to win the Republicans the House in a landslide and the Senate by a
> squeaker.
.
> If this fiasco passes, Americans will have to pay higher taxes and
> much bigger insurance premiums four years before the "benefits" (such
> as they are) take place. Why is that, you ask? Two reasons.....
> ====================
> "SOME" will pay higher. The ones who've gotten a free ride for their whole
> lives.
Yeah, here's your problem - what you guys PROMISED is very different
that what you DELIVERED. After the bill is signed, the American
people will understand that they're going to pay vast more money for a
vastly inferior product.
Killing, Inc.
<k...@LLconservatives.us> wrote:
> "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com> wrote in message
It's obvious you never read the book. Hardcore leftwingers are the
most unlearned members of society.
War is Peace = a leftwing warhawk is coronated with the foreign title
of Nobel 'peace' prize winner in the same week he orders 30,000 of his
subjects to war.
THAT is Orwell at it's finest.
Bob LeChevalier
>> > .> That Guy had his Finger on it!!! Remember, though,,he, also was
>> > > crucified for his beneficence!!!-:)
>.
>> > Yes - by the government.
>.
>> Are you trying to say Republicans are not "the government"??? >
>.
>Not at all. However, Christ was VERY clear on this point.
Christ said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the United States of America, or
about its government, which did not exist in His lifetime, and wasn't
even contemplated for another millennium and a half.
To claim that ANYTHING Christ said is applicable to anything and
anyone in the 21st century is a matter of INTERPRETATION, and thus is
NOT "very clear" at all.
>>�It is that kind of mass (baggers, birthers, etc)led by Republicans in government,
>> who are now casting stones at those who now seek what Jesus sought!!!>
>.
>What do you think Jesus would have said about the Democrats,
No one has a single clue what Jesus Christ would have said about
ANYTHING that is happening today.
>after he learned that Kevin Jennings was a "Safe School Czar"? When Rev.
>Wright, supposedly a Christian, screamed "God Damn America?"
What did Jesus Christ say about the whore who was about to be stoned
to death?
>How
>about Democrats who use the force of law to compel Christians to
>unwillingly perform abortions?
They have the option to choose a different employer.
>Or a Healthcare bill that forced Christians to pay for abortions?
What did Jesus Christ say about the Roman government, which was rather
more oppressive than our government? What did He say about their
taxation?
>> Ever hear of "The Anti-Christ"???? � Just look at Republican
>> politicians who where the hoy mantle as a Haloween costume or April
>> Fool prank!!!1>
>.
>How about if I look at the ACLU, which openly works to reduce
>Christianity to insignificance?
The ACLU does no such thing, and has fought for fundies as much as for
atheists. However, WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENT, Christianity and all other
religion is insignificant, and must be.
lojbab
---
Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
loj...@lojban.org Lojban language www.lojban.org
bvallely
> >> > .> That Guy had his Finger on it!!! Remember, though,,he, also was
> >> > > crucified for his beneficence!!!-:)
.
> >> > Yes - by the government.
.
> >> Are you trying to say Republicans are not "the government"??? >
.
> >Not at all. However, Christ was VERY clear on this point.
.
> Christ said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the United States of America, or
> about its government, which did not exist in His lifetime, and wasn't
> even contemplated for another millennium and a half.
Which is why I didn't claim he spoke about the United States of
America. I wrote about Christ's opinions of government in general,
and Rome specifically.
.
> To claim that ANYTHING Christ said is applicable to anything and
> anyone in the 21st century is a matter of INTERPRETATION, and thus is
> NOT "very clear" at all.
Certainly not clear to people who desperately refuse to accept the
obvious.
.
> >> It is that kind of mass (baggers, birthers, etc)led by Republicans in government,
> >> who are now casting stones at those who now seek what Jesus sought!!!>
.
> >What do you think Jesus would have said about the Democrats,
> No one has a single clue what Jesus Christ would have said about
> ANYTHING that is happening today.
Unless you actually read His teachings.
.
> >after he learned that Kevin Jennings was a "Safe School Czar"? When Rev.
> >Wright, supposedly a Christian, screamed "God Damn America?"
> What did Jesus Christ say about the whore who was about to be stoned
> to death?
He condemned the hypocrites on the other side of the stone.
However, Jesus has a special contempt for corruptors of innocence -
and that's clearly the level of Hell Kevin Jennings is heading.
.
> >How
> >about Democrats who use the force of law to compel Christians to
> >unwillingly perform abortions?
.
> They have the option to choose a different employer.
.
Until it become the law of the land.
.
> >Or a Healthcare bill that forced Christians to pay for abortions?
.
> What did Jesus Christ say about the Roman government, which was rather
> more oppressive than our government? What did He say about their
> taxation?
.
Give unto God, that which is Gods. People are required to act like a
Christian, regardless what the government orders.
.
> >> Ever hear of "The Anti-Christ"???? Just look at Republican
> >> politicians who where the hoy mantle as a Haloween costume or April
> >> Fool prank!!!1>
.
> >How about if I look at the ACLU, which openly works to reduce
> >Christianity to insignificance?
.
> The ACLU does no such thing,...>
.
Of course it does.
.
>..... and has fought for fundies as much as for
> atheists. >
.
Who do you think you're kidding?
.
> However, WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENT, Christianity and all other
> religion is insignificant, and must be.
.
Why?
Salty Stan
> Too late now...they had the entire year to reconsider..they choose to
> sit with their fingers up their asses doing jack shit.
I have a question for all those who support this bill:
Have any of you actually READ this bill, in its entirety?
(Or should I say bills, because there are two incompatible versions.)
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
.
> > .> That Guy had his Finger on it!!! Remember, though,,he, also was
> > > crucified for his beneficence!!!-:)
.
> > Yes - by the government.
.
> Are you trying to say Republicans are not "the government"??? >
.
Not at all. However, Christ was VERY clear on this point.
Matthew 22:15-33240
PLEASE, don't YOU DARE go quoting Jesus after your unflinching support for
Donald Rumsfeld's child abuse. Do you think Jesus approved of what he did,
hypocrite?
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
I know enough not to support child abusers like Donald Rumsfeld. You
apparently do not.
I don't live in a dictatorship. You righties love dictatorships.
People did that. Not the "government."
Didn't you learn anything from the Timothy McVeigh story?
He too, thought "government" was the enemy. But the "government" is just
people. Sure, people within government can and do bend it to their wills and
whims. But if you truly knew history, you know that the "government" of that
time wanted little to do with he whole Jesus affair.
It was the Jewish High Priests who pressured the government into action.
You conservaloons always view things like the "government" as something
outside of yourselves because you're all focused on the blame game instead
of the repair game.
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
On Dec 24, 2:09 am, "The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead"
<k...@LLconservatives.us> wrote:
> "Killing, Inc." <i.am.killing....@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:47e4f896-e819-42a2...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 23, 5:41 pm, John Fisher <TaxServ...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Republicans ARE voting in favor of health care, by opposing the
> Democretin's attempt to destroy it.
>
> This is insightful here, folks. Read it carefully...what he said.
>
> It's Orwellian Newspeak at it's finest.
It's obvious you never read the book.
It's obvious that you spend most of your time on earth assuming what others
do, to your detriment.
Hardcore leftwingers are the
most unlearned members of society.
War is Peace = a leftwing warhawk is coronated with the foreign title
of Nobel 'peace' prize winner in the same week he orders 30,000 of his
subjects to war.
THAT is Orwell at it's finest.
lol! So, you only like wars when a conservative is running them? You'd be
waving the flag to the point of tennis-elbow if Bush did the same thing,
hypocrite.
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
"Bob LeChevalier" <loj...@lojban.org> wrote in message
news:4fu7j5197lvfbp0p0...@4ax.com...
I think you're misunderstanding valleygrl.
He has his own Personal Jesus, that does what bvallely wants and not the
other way around.
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
.
> >> > .> That Guy had his Finger on it!!! Remember, though,,he, also was
> >> > > crucified for his beneficence!!!-:)
.
> >> > Yes - by the government.
.
> >> Are you trying to say Republicans are not "the government"??? >
.
> >Not at all. However, Christ was VERY clear on this point.
.
> Christ said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the United States of America, or
> about its government, which did not exist in His lifetime, and wasn't
> even contemplated for another millennium and a half.
.
Which is why I didn't claim he spoke about the United States of
America. I wrote about Christ's opinions of government in general,
and Rome specifically.
Need a shovel, bgrl?
The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead
"Salty Stan" <wsjam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:c277a70b-cd9e-48c8...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
There are. And I've read most of both, why?
And the Patriot Act. When it came out. None of these righttard loons
bothered to read it. Nor their elected representatives.
Bob LeChevalier
>> >> > .> That Guy had his Finger on it!!! Remember, though,,he, also was
>> >> > > crucified for his beneficence!!!-:)
>.
>> >> > Yes - by the government.
>.
>> >> Are you trying to say Republicans are not "the government"??? >
>.
>.
>> Christ said ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the United States of America, or
>> about its government, which did not exist in His lifetime, and wasn't
>> even contemplated for another millennium and a half.
>.
>Which is why I didn't claim he spoke about the United States of
>America. I wrote about Christ's opinions of government in general,
>and Rome specifically.
Christ said very little, and all of it was elliptical. It takes
interpretation to even understand what He was saying about Rome.
Trying to generalize what He said about Rome to other situations is
even murkier interpretation.
>> To claim that ANYTHING Christ said is applicable to anything and
>> anyone in the 21st century is a matter of INTERPRETATION, and thus is
>> NOT "very clear" at all.
>.
>Certainly not clear to people who desperately refuse to accept the
>obvious.
Sorry, but nothing in the Bible is "obvious", especially given that
everything Christ said has been doubly translated, from the Aramaic
that He probably originally spoke in (which is not recorded anywhere)
to ancient Greek, and then from Greek to English.
And then there are the decades that passed between Christ's words and
the writings that we have.
There is NO source that actually records exactly what Christ said.
And that is totally ignoring that the cultural context He was speaking
in is only partially known, and only a small fraction of what He said
was recorded even in the approximate form that we have, so common
sense tells us to treat every quote as if it has been taken out of
context.
Like I said - it's all interpretation.
>> >>�ｿｽIt is that kind of mass (baggers, birthers, etc)led by Republicans in government,
>> >> who are now casting stones at those who now seek what Jesus sought!!!>
>.
>> >What do you think Jesus would have said about the Democrats,
>.
>> No one has a single clue what Jesus Christ would have said about
>> ANYTHING that is happening today.
>.
>Unless you actually read His teachings.
Can't do that. All I can read are translations of other people's
edited interpretations of His teachings.
>> >after he learned that Kevin Jennings was a "Safe School Czar"? �ｿｽWhen Rev.
>> >Wright, supposedly a Christian, screamed "God Damn America?"
>.
>> What did Jesus Christ say about the whore who was about to be stoned
>> to death?
>.
>He condemned the hypocrites on the other side of the stone.
Interpretation. He did not actually condemn anyone in that reported
episode. He apparently allowed them to see the hypocrisy in their
actions.
But of course, the "clear" interpretation of this, is that since no
one is sufficiently without sin to cast the first stone, no society
should ever punish anyone for any criminal misdeeds.
At least that seems at least as "clear" as any other interpretation.
>However, Jesus has a special contempt for corruptors of innocence -
Really? Sounds like another interpretation.
There are only a couple of things He showed utmost contempt for.
People who falsely claim to speak or act for Him stand out in my
memory - liars and hypocrites, "I never knew thee"
>and that's clearly the level of Hell Kevin Jennings is heading.
I don't presume the wisdom to judge other human beings, even if I
agreed with the claim that Kevin Jennings is any more a "corrupter of
innocence" than you or I are.
>> >How
>> >about Democrats who use the force of law to compel Christians to
>> >unwillingly perform abortions?
>.
>> They have the option to choose a different employer.
>.
>Until it become the law of the land.
It can't.
>> >Or a Healthcare bill that forced Christians to pay for abortions?
>.
>> What did Jesus Christ say about the Roman government, which was rather
>> more oppressive than our government? �ｿｽWhat did He say about their
>> taxation?
>.
>Give unto God, that which is Gods. People are required to act like a
>Christian, regardless what the government orders.
He never said any such thing. Indeed, He never told anyone to "act
like a Christian", since the word "Christian" never appears in His
words. You are interpreting again.
And in fact, Christ told people to obey those in authority. He never
once told anyone, including His apostles, to disobey the government.
>> >> Ever hear of "The Anti-Christ"???? �ｿｽ Just look at Republican
>> >> politicians who where the hoy mantle as a Haloween costume or April
>> >> Fool prank!!!1>
>.
>> >How about if I look at the ACLU, which openly works to reduce
>> >Christianity to insignificance?
>.
>> The ACLU does no such thing,...>
>.
>Of course it does.
Liar.
>>..... and has fought for fundies as much as for
>> atheists. >
>.
>Who do you think you're kidding?
No one. You are obviously ignorant.
http://www.aclufightsforchristians.com/
I know that in at least one case, the ACLU backed Falwell against the
government on some matter or another.
>>�ｿｽHowever, WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENT, Christianity and all other
>> religion is insignificant, and must be.
>.
>Why?
First amendment. No official respect can be paid to any establishment
of religion.
At one time Christians celebrated this position.
Dr. Barry Worthington
I believe that the Sanhedrin had something to do with it.....
Dr. Barry Worthington
P.S. Merry Christmas!
Salty Stan
<k...@LLconservatives.us> wrote:
> "Salty Stan" <wsjames...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c277a70b-cd9e-48c8...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 24, 8:39 am, GLOBALIST <free.tun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Too late now...they had the entire year to reconsider..they choose to
> > sit with their fingers up their asses doing jack shit.
>
> I have a question for all those who support this bill:
>
> Have any of you actually READ this bill, in its entirety?
>
> (Or should I say bills, because there are two incompatible versions.)
>
> There are. And I've read most of both, why?
"most" of them?
bvallely
<k...@LLconservatives.us> wrote:
> "bvallely" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in message
> Need a shovel, bgrl?
.
You don't take being proven wrong well, do you?
bvallely
<k...@LLconservatives.us> wrote:
> "bvallely" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
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> On Dec 24, 1:34 am, "The Ugly Republican Brand is Dead"
>
> <k...@LLconservatives.us> wrote:
> > "bvallely" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:1bbbfa14-ad8e-469d...@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > .
> > >> How ironic!!!
> > > .
> > >> Inhofe and Coburn going back home to celebrate the birth of the guy who
> > >> offered a public option, for free, to all!!!!
> > > .
> > > Really? Jesus orded His followers to turn to Rome for free
> > > CeaserCare? Because, correct me if I'm wrong, I was under the
> > > impression that THE GOVERNMENT NAILED JESUS TO A PIECE OF WOOD AND LET
> > > HIM DIE SLOWLY FOR THREE DAYS!!!!
> .
> > Yeah, valleygrl. The "GOVERNMENT" did it.
.
> > lol
> Yes, the government did exactly that. Seriously, do you know so
> little about history?
> I know enough not to support child abusers like Donald Rumsfeld. You
> apparently do not.
I know, through history, that liberals LOVE to make up, and repeat,
false charges against republicans. Donald Rumsfled is not a child
molester. You are a casual liar - that is why you cowardly change
your screen name regularly.
.
> I don't live in a dictatorship.>
America is far less free than it was a year ago.
.
> You righties love dictatorships.
.
Mao. Stalin. Pol Pot. Hilter, Saddam...... all leftist socialists.
.
> People did that. Not the "government."
Yes, corrupt, evil people with the legal authority of force. Look at
you - just now, you made up, out of whole, a disgusting charge against
Donald Rumsfeld - based on nothing other than the wish to smear his
repubtation. YOU are the sort of people who wants the government to
control all our lives.
.
> Didn't you learn anything from the Timothy McVeigh story?
> He too, thought "government" was the enemy. But the "government" is just
> people. >
The socialists murdered around a hundred million people.
.
>Sure, people within government can and do bend it to their wills and
> whims.
And they do so with the force of law, to crush opposition, destroy
lives, and gobble up freedom.
.
> But if you truly knew history, you know that the "government" of that
> time wanted little to do with he whole Jesus affair.>
A 100% truth-free statement. The Roman government was quite concerned
that Jesus would declare Himself "King of the Jews".
> It was the Jewish High Priests who pressured the government into action.>
.
Ah, so we're back to liberals calling Jews "Christ killers", huh?
Honestly, were you ever really that far away?
.
> You conservaloons always view things like the "government" as something
> outside of yourselves because you're all focused on the blame game instead
> of the repair game.>
.
We view the "government" (and the goverment) as something outside
ourselves, because it is. You may wish to live a life being told what
to do. My you enjoy the taste of your Master's ass, and your chains
weigh lightly.
clams_casino
>
>.
>I know, through history, that liberals LOVE to make up, and repeat,
>false charges against republicans. Donald Rumsfled is not a child
>molester.
>
and GW was not a coke-head alcoholic either................
Jerry Okamura
these very simple questions. Will the result of this bill give you more
freedom or less freedom? Is your freedom important or not important? Do
you want to be more dependent on government or less dependent on government?
Will this reduce or increase the growing National government obligations or
won't it? Are you at all concerned about the growing government promises
that it cannot possibly keep. Is this a big problem or no problem at all?
"John Fisher" <TaxSe...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> REPUBLICANS FOR HEALTH CARE!!!
>
> It's not too late!!! Tell your Senators & Congress People to vote in
> your best interest to give the American People new hope as we rise of
> from a broken system of health delivery. Health care, for this
> improving nation, is an investment in the future.
>
> Give health a chance!!! Fight for it, NOW!!!-:) What is being
> offered is for all the people, including REPUBLICANS!!!=:) NO MORE
> NO'S when it comes to our health care needs!!! No one is immune from
> the miserly ways of the health insurance companies and profiteers in
> the health care industry. Don't let groups of nuts influence your
> thinking on the topic. Amongst the vast amount of people dying too
> soon, because they have no health insurance, could be you, your
> family, your friends. Very few are so secure that adequate health
> care need not be a concern for them.
>
Bob LeChevalier
>All you have to know about whether to support this or not is to ask yourself
>these very simple questions. Will the result of this bill give you more
>freedom or less freedom? Is your freedom important or not important? Do
>you want to be more dependent on government or less dependent on government?
>Will this reduce or increase the growing National government obligations or
>won't it? Are you at all concerned about the growing government promises
>that it cannot possibly keep. Is this a big problem or no problem at all?
Perfect example of black/white either/or false dichotomy thinking.
The answer to all of those questions is somewhere in the middle
between your extremist dichotomies.
Ga...@comcast.net
"Jerry Okamura" <okamu...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
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> All you have to know about whether to support this or not is to ask
> yourself these very simple questions. Will the result of this bill give
> you more freedom or less freedom? Is your freedom important or not
> important? Do you want to be more dependent on government or less
> dependent on government? Will this reduce or increase the growing National
> government obligations or won't it? Are you at all concerned about the
> growing government promises that it cannot possibly keep. Is this a big
> problem or no problem at all?
>
as long as it's a problem for conservatives, it must be good for everyone
else,
I mean the wealthy and powerful, and the dumb ass hillbillies are against
it, so
obviously they feel they have something to lose, which is bound to be good
for everyone else,
you have a hard time with simplicity don't you ?
damn japs and krauts, and hillbillies always have made everything more
complicated than it needed to be,
why not shut the hell up, go away, and let the smart people handle things,
really what have you conservatives, Nazis,and war criminal japs ever done
for humanity
Jerry Okamura
> "Jerry Okamura" <okamu...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>>All you have to know about whether to support this or not is to ask
>>yourself
>>these very simple questions. Will the result of this bill give you more
>>freedom or less freedom? Is your freedom important or not important? Do
>>you want to be more dependent on government or less dependent on
>>government?
>>Will this reduce or increase the growing National government obligations
>>or
>>won't it? Are you at all concerned about the growing government promises
>>that it cannot possibly keep. Is this a big problem or no problem at all?
>
> Perfect example of black/white either/or false dichotomy thinking.
>
> The answer to all of those questions is somewhere in the middle
> between your extremist dichotomies.
>
deserve neither freedom nor safety. And no, there is not "middle ground"
when it comes to the size of our government obligations. If you believe
that, here is your chance. Go to this web site, and explain what the
"middle ground" is.
Jerry Okamura
"Gle...@teranews.com" <Ga...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Jerry Okamura" <okamu...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:eYM_m.15751$Gf3....@newsfe18.iad...
>> All you have to know about whether to support this or not is to ask
>> yourself these very simple questions. Will the result of this bill give
>> you more freedom or less freedom? Is your freedom important or not
>> important? Do you want to be more dependent on government or less
>> dependent on government? Will this reduce or increase the growing
>> National government obligations or won't it? Are you at all concerned
>> about the growing government promises that it cannot possibly keep. Is
>> this a big problem or no problem at all?
>>
>
> as long as it's a problem for conservatives, it must be good for everyone
> else,
> I mean the wealthy and powerful, and the dumb ass hillbillies are against
> it, so
> obviously they feel they have something to lose, which is bound to be good
> for everyone else,
I already figured that would be the kind of response I received.
Translation: you don't care about our freedoms. You don't care about the
size of our National debt.
Bob LeChevalier
>"Bob LeChevalier" <loj...@lojban.org> wrote in message
>news:8ognj5li1jmekeomp...@4ax.com...
>> "Jerry Okamura" <okamu...@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
>>>All you have to know about whether to support this or not is to ask
>>>yourself
>>>these very simple questions. Will the result of this bill give you more
>>>freedom or less freedom? Is your freedom important or not important? Do
>>>you want to be more dependent on government or less dependent on
>>>government?
>>>Will this reduce or increase the growing National government obligations
>>>or
>>>won't it? Are you at all concerned about the growing government promises
>>>that it cannot possibly keep. Is this a big problem or no problem at all?
>>
>> Perfect example of black/white either/or false dichotomy thinking.
>>
>> The answer to all of those questions is somewhere in the middle
>> between your extremist dichotomies.
>>
>Those who are willing to give up their freedoms for a little more safety,
>deserve neither freedom nor safety.
But of course I am giving up no freedoms.
>And no, there is not "middle ground"
>when it comes to the size of our government obligations.
So?
The government owes a lot of money. My personal obligation is to pay
the taxes as decided by our legally elected representatives in
accordance with the constitution. No more and no less.
The health care bill may or may not reduce that debt. Probably there
will have to be a tax increase. There *should* have been a tax
increase when Bush took us to war, to cover the costs of that war.
Those who supported Bush's war without expecting to pay for it have no
cause to complain about other trillion dollar expenditures which at
least attempt to pay for themselves.
Bob LeChevalier
>I already figured that would be the kind of response I received.
>Translation: you don't care about our freedoms. You don't care about the
>size of our National debt.
Nor do you. You just care about attacking Obama and winning an
ideological argument that cannot be one (no ideological argument can
be won, because all ideologies are wrong).
Ga...@comcast.net
I don't care about freedoms ?
LMAO,
I don't recall seeing your short,bow jap legged ass in the jungle during
either of my two trips,
actually I don't give a shit about your freedom, if it were up to me I'd
have you deported,
after a show trial, some torture, and some illegal imprisonment of course
give you a taste of what you condone for others
Jerry Okamura
the healthcare reform bill that the democrats want, then today you don't
place a very high value on our freedoms, or you would not be supporting the
bill.
High Miles
If you had read and understood the bill, you wouldn't be putting such
foolishness in writing.