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AnAmericanCitizen

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Dec 23, 2009, 12:46:13 PM12/23/09
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The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS
Sunday Morning Commentary.

My confession:

I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. And it
does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful
lit up, bejeweled trees, Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I
don't feel discriminated against. That's what they are, Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, 'Merry Christmas' to me.
I don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a
ghetto. In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all
brothers and sisters celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't
bother me at all that there is a manger scene on display at a key
intersection near my beach house in Malibu . If people want a creche,
it's just as fine with me as is the Menorah a few hundred yards away.

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think
Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think
people who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around,
period. I have no idea where the concept came from, that America is
an explicitly atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution
and I don't like it being shoved down my throat.

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that
we should worship celebrities and we aren't allowed to worship God as
we understand Him? I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too.
But there are a lot of us who are wondering where these celebrities
came from and where the America we knew went to.

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is
a little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not
funny, it's intended to get you thinking.

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
Clayson asked her 'How could God let something like this
happen?' (regarding Hurricane Katrina). Anne Graham gave an extremely
profound and insightful response. She said, 'I believe God is deeply
saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God
to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out
of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly
backed out How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His
protection if we demand He leave us alone?'

In light of recent events... terrorists attack, school shootings,
etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was
murdered, her body found a few years ago) complained she didn't want
prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better
not read the Bible in school. The Bible says thou shalt not kill;
thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said
OK.

Then Dr Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they
misbehave, because their little personalities would be warped and we
might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide).
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said
okay.

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why
they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to
kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves.

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it
out. I think it has a great deal to do with 'WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.'

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the
world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say,
but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send 'jokes'
through e-mail and they spread like wildfire, but when you start
sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about
sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass
freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
in the school and workplace.

Are you laughing yet?

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many
on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or
what they will think of you for sending it.

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
than what God thinks of us.

Pass it on if you think it has merit.

If not, then just discard it.... no one will know you did. But, if
you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about
what bad shape the world is in.

My Best Regards, Honestly and respectfully,

Ben Stein

Patriot Games

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Dec 23, 2009, 4:47:51 PM12/23/09
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:46:13 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen
<NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote:

Always liked Ben.

Thanks for that!

Sid9

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Dec 23, 2009, 5:38:56 PM12/23/09
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"AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:5ol4j51th90cdfq4t...@4ax.com...
.
.

Are you ready to display on an equal basis Islamic religious symbols
on public property?

Are you ready to display on an equal basis a symbol of Atheism on
public property?

Are you ready to display on an equal basis Wiccan religious symbols on
public property?

Are you ready to display on an equal basis Satanic religious symbols
on public property?


AnAmericanCitizen

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Dec 23, 2009, 11:28:38 PM12/23/09
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:38:56 -0500, "Sid9" <si...@belsouth.net> wrote:

>
>"AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:5ol4j51th90cdfq4t...@4ax.com...
>>
>> The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS
>> Sunday Morning Commentary.
>>

Removed the repeat of the body of Ben's commentary.

>
>Are you ready to display on an equal basis Islamic religious symbols
>on public property?
>
>Are you ready to display on an equal basis a symbol of Atheism on
>public property?
>
>Are you ready to display on an equal basis Wiccan religious symbols on
>public property?
>
>Are you ready to display on an equal basis Satanic religious symbols
>on public property?
>

I believe I could live with Wiccan symbols. I've always liked witches and
halloween...AAC

Sid9

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Dec 23, 2009, 11:56:37 PM12/23/09
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"AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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That takes care of one.


MNSPORTSFAN

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:31:01 AM12/24/09
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I believe I could deal with the symbol of Satanism on public property, all
the symbols for that matter. Show people their choices and the differences
between them and they may become better educated about them. And you cant
have the sweet, without the bitter.

--
MNSPORTSFAN
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ArmyOfDorkness

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:18:03 AM12/24/09
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"MNSPORTSFAN" <blho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I believe I could deal with the symbol of Satanism on public property, all
> the symbols for that matter. Show people their choices and the differences
> between them and they may become better educated about them. And you cant
> have the sweet, without the bitter.

I'm sure Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly would be fine with that.

WangoTango

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Dec 24, 2009, 10:56:46 AM12/24/09
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In article <hgu6ch$fck$1...@news.eternal-september.org>, si...@belsouth.net
says...

>
> .
>
> Are you ready to display on an equal basis Islamic religious symbols
> on public property?
>
> Are you ready to display on an equal basis a symbol of Atheism on
> public property?
>
> Are you ready to display on an equal basis Wiccan religious symbols on
> public property?
>
> Are you ready to display on an equal basis Satanic religious symbols
> on public property?

My favorite part was the retarded comment by Billy Graham's daughter.
I guess we never had natural disasters until recently?
What about all the bad shit that happened before the, say, 1960's?
I get so tired of these inane comments that people never get called on.
You can't say that Christians have asked their god to get out of their
churches and yet the burned out church or wiped out church bus full of
kids is a news staple. Why didn't her god protect those that are
OBVIOUSLY carrying his people? The reason that Katrina was such a mess
was stupidity, and her statements just add to it.

John Q Public

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Dec 24, 2009, 12:24:18 PM12/24/09
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As usual Sid You miss the point, why don't you fucking go to Saudi
Arabia, Iran, India....
and tell them to get those obscene depictions of their muslim,
hindu.... faiths out of all
public view because it upsets your atheistic cocksuking little libtard
ass and see how far ya
get before they stone yer dumb ass!

Patriot Games

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Dec 24, 2009, 1:52:56 PM12/24/09
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:38:56 -0500, "Sid9" <si...@belsouth.net> wrote:

How many people noticed that "Sid9" and "Major Debacle" stopped using
BellSouth and started using 'Eternal-September' at the exact same
time...?

AnAmericanCitizen

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:27:29 PM12/24/09
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 20:28:38 -0800, AnAmericanCitizen <NoAm...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

I apologize to you all for my comments here. It was tongue in cheek and most of you
that responded were serious, except for Army of Dorkness who, as usual, doesn't make
much sense, just offering his snide nonsense.....AAC

CB

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:27:59 PM12/24/09
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"MNSPORTSFAN" <blho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I believe I could deal with the symbol of Satanism on public property, all
>the symbols for that matter. Show people their choices and the differences
>between them and they may become better educated about them. And you cant
>have the sweet, without the bitter.

I think we should put it up for a vote. May the True God win

Great post by AnAmericanCitizen

CB

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Dec 24, 2009, 4:35:13 PM12/24/09
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"Patriot Games" <Pat...@America.Com> wrote in message
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Personally I think most of their posts are generate random nick.

Just like in the population at large, Liberals are in the minority but like
Obama, the Left uses Marxist (Saul Alinsky Rules For Radicals) means of
promoting their minority view as if it were widespread...except for talk
radio and cable news


John Q Public

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Dec 24, 2009, 8:17:20 PM12/24/09
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All of the left frequently crossposts, lots of em post into their own threads
to make it look like there are more of them.
Sid of None cloning into MAjor testicle wouldn't be shocking, just par for the
course, though shedding the light upon them is beneficial in showing them
to be the lyin little schills they are

AnAmericanCitizen

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Dec 25, 2009, 2:59:42 PM12/25/09
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>radio and cable news.


Hear, hear!!!....AAC

Sid9

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Dec 26, 2009, 12:38:46 PM12/26/09
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"John Q Public" <my2c...@me.com> wrote in message
news:2009122412241811272-my2cents@mecom...
.
.
In a recent Robin Williams HBO show he asserted that assholes can speak.

I didn't believe him.

After your post I believe he's right.

You proved it.

Assholes can speak!


Goodbye!

Patriot Games

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Dec 26, 2009, 1:20:57 PM12/26/09
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On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:35:13 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
>"Patriot Games" <Pat...@America.Com> wrote in message
>news:i1e7j51b66q6p0o04...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:38:56 -0500, "Sid9" <si...@belsouth.net> wrote:
>> How many people noticed that "Sid9" and "Major Debacle" stopped using
>> BellSouth and started using 'Eternal-September' at the exact same
>> time...?
>Personally I think most of their posts are generate random nick.

I used to think that but after capturing, storing, sorting, and
checking tens of thousands of Headers I can tell you that that is
actually rare.

>Just like in the population at large, Liberals are in the minority but like
>Obama, the Left uses Marxist (Saul Alinsky Rules For Radicals) means of
>promoting their minority view as if it were widespread...

Totally true!

RichTravsky

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:12:58 AM12/28/09
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CB wrote:
>
> "MNSPORTSFAN" <blho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >I believe I could deal with the symbol of Satanism on public property, all
> >the symbols for that matter. Show people their choices and the differences
> >between them and they may become better educated about them. And you cant
> >have the sweet, without the bitter.
>
> I think we should put it up for a vote. May the True God win
>

May the best superstition win.

RT

RichTravsky

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Dec 28, 2009, 12:14:31 AM12/28/09
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Patriot Games wrote:
>
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 16:35:13 -0500, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
> >"Patriot Games" <Pat...@America.Com> wrote in message
> >> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:38:56 -0500, "Sid9" <si...@belsouth.net> wrote:
> >> How many people noticed that "Sid9" and "Major Debacle" stopped using
> >> BellSouth and started using 'Eternal-September' at the exact same
> >> time...?
> >Personally I think most of their posts are generate random nick.
>
> I used to think that but after capturing, storing, sorting, and
> checking tens of thousands of Headers I can tell you that that is
> actually rare.

You've captured, stored, sorted, checked "tens of thousands of Headers"???

HAHAHHAHAHAHAAH

RT

SilentOtto

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Dec 28, 2009, 1:29:36 AM12/28/09
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On Dec 24, 1:52 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:

> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:38:56 -0500, "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:
>
> How many people noticed that "Sid9" and "Major Debacle" stopped using
> BellSouth and started using 'Eternal-September' at the exact same
> time...?

How many rightard closet queers noticed that ATT shut down their
usenet server, Queer Boy?

Heh heh...

Insane lying racist rightard closet queer sheep fucking coprophile
shit eating posing snip bitch gay porn faggots...

Batshit crazy and dogshit stupid, every single last one of you.

I ORDER you to paste a reply, Shit Eater.

Show me you're my bitch again, Faggot.

Sid9

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Dec 28, 2009, 8:34:26 AM12/28/09
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"SilentOtto" <silen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f29a5aca-6203-4325...@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
.
.

Correct.

ATT shut down their news servers and their mail servers.

Usenet customers were simply dumped.

Mail service was turned over to Yahoo.

Customer service is the last thing in the world that ATT concerns itself
with.

There was no price reduction to match their reduced service.

Patriot Games

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Dec 28, 2009, 11:37:03 AM12/28/09
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I just checked, more like captured hundreds and hundreds (and
hundreds) of thousands and stored a little over a hundred thousand
(mostly non-duplicate).

>HAHAHHAHAHAHAAH

Reality is NOT limited by YOUR tiny abilities...

Patriot Games

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Dec 28, 2009, 11:40:26 AM12/28/09
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:29:36 -0800 (PST), SilentOtto
<silen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 24, 1:52�pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:38:56 -0500, "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:
>> How many people noticed that "Sid9" and "Major Debacle" stopped using
>> BellSouth and started using 'Eternal-September' at the exact same
>> time...?
>How many rightard closet queers noticed that ATT shut down their
>usenet server

Irrelevant.

John Q Public

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Dec 28, 2009, 6:08:42 PM12/28/09
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Agreed, either theyr'e the same idiot posting under 2 nyms or 2 idiots posting
under their own. Either way its an idiot posting BS so it is irrelevant!

SilentOtto

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Dec 28, 2009, 9:24:59 PM12/28/09
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On Dec 28, 11:40 am, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:29:36 -0800 (PST), SilentOtto
>
> <silento...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Dec 24, 1:52 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:38:56 -0500, "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:
> >> How many people noticed that "Sid9" and "Major Debacle" stopped using
> >> BellSouth and started using 'Eternal-September' at the exact same
> >> time...?
> >How many rightard closet queers noticed that ATT shut down their
> >usenet server
>
> Irrelevant.

It's only irrelevant if you're a stupid, racist, rightard closet
queer, Queer Boy.

ATT shut down their Usenet access.

ATT users were forced to find another server.

The top rated free Usenet server is Aioe.org.

Who is "Eternal-September"?

Aioe.org, Queer Boy.

You think it's a suspicious coincidence that two different posters who
were both using Bell South, would, when Bell South dropped their
service, migrate to the same top rated free Usenet server?

Bawhahahahahahahahaha...

That's one of the reasons you're a stupid, racist, rightard, closet
queer, Queer Boy.

Patriot Games

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Dec 29, 2009, 12:18:35 PM12/29/09
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On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:24:59 -0800 (PST), SilentOtto
<silen...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Dec 28, 11:40�am, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:29:36 -0800 (PST), SilentOtto
>> <silento...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Dec 24, 1:52 pm, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:38:56 -0500, "Sid9" <s...@belsouth.net> wrote:
>> >> How many people noticed that "Sid9" and "Major Debacle" stopped using
>> >> BellSouth and started using 'Eternal-September' at the exact same
>> >> time...?
>> >How many rightard closet queers noticed that ATT shut down their
>> >usenet server
>> Irrelevant.
>ATT shut down their Usenet access.

But NOT their ISP...

>ATT users were forced to find another server.
>The top rated free Usenet server is Aioe.org.
>Who is "Eternal-September"?
>Aioe.org

Are you claiming they are the SAME Service?

>You think it's a suspicious coincidence that two different posters who
>were both using Bell South, would, when Bell South dropped their
>service, migrate to the same top rated free Usenet server?

Are you claiming they are the SAME Service?


RichTravsky

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:45:20 PM12/30/09
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Reality is you lied. Reality is you have not "captured"

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