Palin Says Nation Should Rededicate Itself to God - God bless you Sarah and may He usher in thee NWO according to His will, not Marxist Eco-commies
CB
Friday, December 4, 2009 4:36 PM
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/us_palin_billy_graham/2009/12/04/294609.html
Sarah Palin says the United States should rededicate itself to seeking
God's will, arguing that a humble spirit could help leaders get more answers
on issues such as healthcare, energy and national security.
In a video released Friday by the Billy Graham Evangelistic
Association, the 2008 Republican candidate for vice president said it's
important for leaders to acknowledge they don't have all the answers.
"No one person has all the right answers," Palin said. "It takes a
united nation, and it does take godly counsel, and it takes prayer and
answers to prayer - and a collective humble heart of a nation seeking God's
hand of protection and his blessings of prosperity. I think if we can get
back to that, our country will be a safer, more prosperous and healthier
nation."
The former Alaska governor referred to an Abraham Lincoln proclamation
that declared a day of national humiliation, fasting, and prayer. She said
the United States has been "touched by God" because the nation's early
leaders dedicated the country to God.
"If we could get back to that - that humbleness, with that kind of
contrite spirit - I think that we would be able to be provided more of the
answers to so many of the great challenges that we're facing," Palin said.
"And these are huge challenges, whether we're talking about healthcare,
whether we're talking about energy independence, whether we're talking about
national security measures."
Parts of Palin's interview with the Billy Graham group have been
released since she traveled a couple weeks ago to meet the aging religious
leader at his western North Carolina home, where they dined and prayed.
Franklin Graham, who now leads the Charlotte-based association his father
founded, said he has been impressed by Palin's commitment to faith, family
and country.
In the videos, Palin talked about some of the "shots" she takes in the
media and in politics.
"God strengthens me through the challenges," Palin said, adding that
she believes in a line from the Bible she paraphrased as: "What the enemy
seeks to destroy you with, no, God is going to turn it around for good."
"God has so blessed me in really manifesting that promise over and
over and over in my life," she said.
Billy Graham, 91, has been a counsel to presidents and politicians for
decades, though he now remains largely secluded due to deteriorating health.
Palin was visiting North Carolina last month as part of a book tour for her
new memoir, "Going Rogue."
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Don Albasani
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> Palin Says Nation Should Rededicate Itself to God
Then she ran out and bought crack, had an abortion and stole a car.
RichTravsky
CB
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> CB wrote:
>>
>> Palin Says Nation Should Rededicate Itself to God
One who does not forgive may just find him self, unforgiven
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CB
While this statement is generally true:
Godly people 'try' to stay within both God's laws and mans because of the
Knowledge that one day they'll have to account for life choices.
This statement is absolutely true:
Ungodly people are Progressive in their sinful, inappropriate behavior. No
amount of law has the moral shackle as does the certainty of God's Judgment.
Secular Humanism 'is' the religion of 'relavtive moral equality' where
morality has no accountability.
Obama-Biden in 2012
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>
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
So, Holier-Than-Thou Failin' Palin thinks we should throw out the Bill of
Rights so that everyone can rededicate . . . well, actually "dedicate"
without the "re" . . . themselves to HER God.
--
If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone
who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the
welfare of the people - their health, their housing, their schools, their
jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties - someone who believes
we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our
policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to
say I'm a "Liberal."
RichTravsky
> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> Palin Says Nation Should Rededicate Itself to God
>
> One who does not forgive may just find him self, unforgiven
And the Bailins are hypocrites. But that's normal for con-servative
family values.
RT
David Hartung
> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
> news:4b1a6b9d$0$4878$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> Palin Says Nation Should Rededicate Itself to God
>
> "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
> prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
>
> So, Holier-Than-Thou Failin' Palin thinks we should throw out the Bill of
> Rights so that everyone can rededicate . . . well, actually "dedicate"
> without the "re" . . . themselves to HER God.
I don't recall Gov. Palin suggesting that we should make Christianity,
or any brand of Christianity, the official faith of the nation. the
"re-dedication" she is referring to must be an individual thing, not a
governmental thing.
In other words, there is no "throwing out" of the Bil of Rights, ekther
real or implied.
thuss
And don't forget, as the US Supreme Court and mainstream media has,
that Free Exercise clause....which all Leftists and Libbos absolutely
hate.
CB
"thuss" <th...@doohickey.net> wrote in message
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Libs have such brown noses that frightened Richie thought he might be
indoctrinated in Rev. Wright's church where Obama's chickens have come
hoooome too rooost.
No Richie, you still have free choice
Mitchell Holman
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>
>
> In other words, there is no "throwing out" of the Bil of Rights,
> ekther real or implied.
"Bil"?
"ekther"?
"If you are going to question the intelligence of others,
it might be a good idea to pay closer attention to your
spelling."
David Hartung, 12/1/07
Obama-Biden in 2012
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Two proclamations made by then-Governor Palin show some light on her views:
9/14/07 - "NOW, THEREFORE, I, Gov. Sarah Palin, do hereby proclaim October
21-27, 2007, as Alaska's 9th Annual Christian Heritage Week in Alaska, and
encourage all citizens to celebrate this week.
10/17/07 - "NOW, THEREFORE, I, Sarah Palin, Governor of the State of Alaska,
do hereby proclaim November 18-25, 2007, as Bible Week in Alaska, and
encourage interested citizens to participate in this observance."
What she proclaimed as Governor we can logically assume she would push for
as President.
Obama-Biden in 2012
Liberals have no problem with you exercising your rights to your primitive
rituals. But we always have, and always will, oppose your efforts to force
us to do the same. Thus the rulings abolishing the practices of forcing
public school children to recite your "Lord's Prayer" and read aloud from
your Bible, which were commonplace through the '50s and early '60s, will
never be overturned.
Obama-Biden in 2012
What/who the fuck are you talking about?
CB
"Obama-Biden in 2012" <NoTh...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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that Free Exercise clause, nig
>
> --
> If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind,
Translation: free of morality in exchange foe relative moral equality,
trading freedom of choice for the security of gubment and looking forward to
chaos rather than self disciplined order.
someone
> who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions,
Translation: Abandon Conservative values in exchange for contemporary,
fashionable values dictated by Hollywood and media.
someone who cares about the
> welfare of the people
Get someone else to pull the wagon
- their health,
Eat like a pig, do drugs and let gubment/tax payer food duh bill.
their housing, their schools, their
> jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties
Bigger gubment so'z Gay'wee doesn't hab to do nuttin but get in line
- someone who believes
> we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our
> policies abroad,
Follow the whims of Socialists the world over
if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to
> say I'm a "Liberal."
Liberal means never having to answer to a 'higher ruling authority axcept
ones own selfish wants.
CB
"Obama-Biden in 2012" <NoTh...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
Oh for the days where children respected authority, kept it zipped or
covered and didn't look to gubment for their 'welfare'.
>
> --
> If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind,
> someone If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not
> behind,
Translation: free of morality in exchange foe relative moral equality,
trading freedom of choice for the security of gubment and looking forward to
chaos rather than self disciplined order.
someone
> who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions,
Translation: Abandon Conservative values in exchange for contemporary,
fashionable values dictated by Hollywood and media.
someone who cares about the
> welfare of the people
Get someone else to pull the wagon
- their health,
Eat like a pig, do drugs and let gubment/tax payer food duh bill.
their housing, their schools, their
> jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties
Bigger gubment so'z Gay'wee doesn't hab to do nuttin but get in line
- someone who believes
> we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our
> policies abroad,
Follow the whims of Socialists the world over
if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to
> say I'm a "Liberal."
Liberal means never having to answer to a 'higher ruling authority axcept
ones own selfish wants.
CB
"Obama-Biden in 2012" <NoTh...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
By the President of the United States of America.
A Proclamation.
The year that is drawing towards its close, has been filled with the
blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which
are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which
they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature,
that they cannot fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is
habitually insensible to the ever watchful providence of Almighty God. In
the midst of a civil war of unequaled magnitude and severity, which has
sometimes seemed to foreign States to invite and to provoke their
aggression, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been
maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has
prevailed everywhere except in the theatre of military conflict; while that
theatre has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of
the Union. Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of
peaceful industry to the national defence, have not arrested the plough, the
shuttle or the ship; the axe has enlarged the borders of our settlements,
and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have
yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily
increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the
siege and the battle-field; and the country, rejoicing in the consiousness
of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years
with large increase of freedom. No human counsel hath devised nor hath any
mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of
the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath
nevertheless remembered mercy. It has seemed to me fit and proper that they
should be solemnly, reverently and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart
and one voice by the whole American People. I do therefore invite my fellow
citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea
and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the
last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our
beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that
while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular
deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our
national perverseness and disobedience, commend to His tender care all those
who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable
civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the
interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to
restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full
enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquillity and Union.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the Seal of the
United States to be affixed.
Done at the City of Washington, this Third day of October, in the year of
our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the Independence
of the Unites States the Eighty-eighth.
By the President: Abraham Lincoln
Obama-Biden in 2012
As usual, you make less sense than Homer Simpson when he's drunk.
--
If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone
who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the
welfare of the people - their health, their housing, their schools, their
jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties - someone who believes
we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our
policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to
Obama-Biden in 2012
I didn't realize that you were old enough to have experienced life in
pre-WWII Germany.
--
If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone
who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the
welfare of the people - their health, their housing, their schools, their
jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties - someone who believes
we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our
policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to
Obama-Biden in 2012
Yes, Lincoln was an astute politician, who realized that the population of
the mid-1800s expected the President to at least put on a show of piety.
But it's clear now that it was a show for political purposes:
http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/steiner0.htm
"Mr. Lincoln's was a purely practical mind. He had no fancy or imagination,
and not much emotion. He was a realist as opposed to an idealist. As a rule,
it is true that a purely logical mind has not much hope, if it ever has
faith, in the unseen and unknown. Mr. Lincoln had not much hope and no faith
in the unseen and unknown. Mr. Lincoln had not much hope and no faith in
things that lie outside of the domain of demonstration; he was so
constituted, so organized that he could believe nothing unless his senses or
logic could reach it. I have often read to him a law point, a decision, or
something I fancied. He could not understand it until he took the book out
of my hand, and read the thing for himself. He was terribly, vexatiously
skeptical."
What would Lincoln's public position be if he were alive today, about 150
years later, now that we've seen evidence that the Earth could NOT have been
created in seven days, that no flood could possibly cover the entire planet,
and that our planet is far from being the center of the universe, all of
which orthodox Christianity still tries to make everyone believe are
truisms? Lincoln bent his political image somewhat to garner the support of
some religious zealots. However, he never led the charge of religious
zealotry as does Palin.
David Hartung
And?
What is the problem here?
clams_casino
>>
>> Two proclamations made by then-Governor Palin show some light on her
>> views:
>>
>> 9/14/07 - "NOW, THEREFORE, I, Gov. Sarah Palin, do hereby proclaim
>> October 21-27, 2007, as Alaska's 9th Annual Christian Heritage Week
>> in Alaska, and encourage all citizens to celebrate this week.
>>
>> 10/17/07 - "NOW, THEREFORE, I, Sarah Palin, Governor of the State of
>> Alaska, do hereby proclaim November 18-25, 2007, as Bible Week in
>> Alaska, and encourage interested citizens to participate in this
>> observance."
>>
>> What she proclaimed as Governor we can logically assume she would
>> push for as President.
>
>
> And?
>
> What is the problem here?
Hint - Palin as president?
David Hartung
She would be better than the current president.
Obama-Biden in 2012
The problem is that this is the state sanctioning and advocating one
particular religion. There was no proclamation for Unitarian Heritage Week
(our nation actually has a much stronger Unitarian heritage than a Christian
heritage), a Jewish Heritage Week or a week for any other religion.
Likewise, there is no official Torah Week, Koran Week or week for any other
religion's scriptures. Unless it is equal for all, it needs to be nothing
for all. Otherwise such proclamations chip away at the wall of separation
between church and state. They may be small steps, but they are steps
nevertheless on the path toward an official state religion, and an official
state religion is a huge step toward a theocracy.
Obama-Biden in 2012
Nah, she'd have quit by now, or had a nervous breakdown under the strain of
having to make decisions more important than "the blue dress with peach
lipstick, or the red dress with pink lipstick?"
David Hartung
Your baseless fears are noted.
Obama-Biden in 2012
Not baseless, and not a fear. Not baseless, because it's the exact same
concept that the Founding Fathers recognized as destructive, and thus
safeguarded us against with the 1st Amendment. Not a fear because of that
1st Amendment, and because not a large enough percentage of the population
is stupid enough to be sucked in by an otherwise incompetent candidate who
is a proponent of Christian zealotry to get such a candidate elected.
Mitchell Holman
> Obama-Biden in 2012 wrote:
>> "David Hartung" <d_ha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4b1b91a1$0$5329$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...
>>> Obama-Biden in 2012 wrote:
>>>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:4b1a6b9d$0$4878$9a6e...@unlimited.newshosting.com...
>>>>> Palin Says Nation Should Rededicate Itself to God
>>>> "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of
>>>> religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
>>>>
>>>> So, Holier-Than-Thou Failin' Palin thinks we should throw out the
>>>> Bill of Rights so that everyone can rededicate . . . well, actually
>>>> "dedicate" without the "re" . . . themselves to HER God.
>>> I don't recall Gov. Palin suggesting that we should make
>>> Christianity, or any brand of Christianity, the official faith of
>>> the nation. the "re-dedication" she is referring to must be an
>>> individual thing, not a governmental thing.
>>>
>>> In other words, there is no "throwing out" of the Bil of Rights,
>>> ekther real or implied.
>>
>> Two proclamations made by then-Governor Palin show some light on her
>> views:
>>
>> 9/14/07 - "NOW, THEREFORE, I, Gov. Sarah Palin, do hereby proclaim
>> October 21-27, 2007, as Alaska's 9th Annual Christian Heritage Week
>> in Alaska, and encourage all citizens to celebrate this week.
>>
Change the word "Christian" to "Moslem" and tell
us you don't see a problem.
>> 10/17/07 - "NOW, THEREFORE, I, Sarah Palin, Governor of the State of
>> Alaska, do hereby proclaim November 18-25, 2007, as Bible Week in
>> Alaska, and encourage interested citizens to participate in this
>> observance."
Change the word "Bible" to "Quran" and tell us
you don't see a problem.
RichTravsky
> >> David Hartung wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Two proclamations made by then-Governor Palin show some light on her
> >>>> views:
> >>>>
> >>>> 9/14/07 - "NOW, THEREFORE, I, Gov. Sarah Palin, do hereby proclaim
> >>>> October 21-27, 2007, as Alaska's 9th Annual Christian Heritage Week in
> >>>> Alaska, and encourage all citizens to celebrate this week.
> >>>>
> >>>> 10/17/07 - "NOW, THEREFORE, I, Sarah Palin, Governor of the State of
> >>>> Alaska, do hereby proclaim November 18-25, 2007, as Bible Week in
> >>>> Alaska, and encourage interested citizens to participate in this
> >>>> observance."
> >>>>
> >>>> What she proclaimed as Governor we can logically assume she would push
> >>>> for as President.
> >>>
> >>> And?
> >>>
> >>> What is the problem here?
> >>
> >> Hint - Palin as president?
> >
> > She would be better than the current president.
>
> Nah, she'd have quit by now, or had a nervous breakdown under the strain of
> having to make decisions more important than "the blue dress with peach
> lipstick, or the red dress with pink lipstick?"
HAHAHAHAHH
ZING!
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
He's thinking of the blue dress Monica Lewinsky saved for you to suck on
>
>
> ZING!
RichTravsky
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> > Obama-Biden in 2012 wrote:
Since morons like Marxists are more concerned with people's
bedrooms,
rather than their houses, the 21st Century still work on Self-
Assembling Robots,
Self-Replicating Machines, On-Line Publishing, Digital Books,
Cruise Missiles,
UAVs, Drones, Rapid-Prototyping, Biodiesel, mp3, mpeg, and post GM-
nomics,
rather than job security for Fortran morons anyway.
their schools, their
> jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties - someone who believes
> we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our
> policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to
> say I'm a "Liberal."- Hide quoted text -
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CB
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Here ya go, stupid...
Muslim Demographics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU
Obama-Biden in 2012
What that video says is that Islam is taking over Europe because Muslims pop
babies out faster. While that may be true there's nothing that pushing
Americans into adopting fundamentalist Christianity will do to stop that
process, so your point is moot. And calling somebody else "stupid" because
they don't believe in your religion is just plain . . . well, STUPID.
Mitchell Holman
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You prefer women to make lots of babies and be
pious and pray regularly but complain when Muslims
do just that?
CB
"Obama-Biden in 2012" <NoTh...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
Christianity's base line tenant is 'hope', with Muslims it isn't hope that
drives them to produce, it's over powering the Infidel with numbers. Kinda
what Liberalism is all about. Although with Liberalism, at some point people
realize they've been useful idiots for a NWO, absent of 'inalienable rights
bestowed from on High', doled out by Secular Humanists who believe there is
no higher ruling authority than their own dictates.
> so your point is moot.
To fools who have no hope
And calling somebody else "stupid" because
> they don't believe in your religion is just plain . . . well, STUPID.
Now there's a simple minded statement. It's a shallow man who sums up faith
and hope in Thee Higher Ruling Authority as, well, stupid. Especially when
the 'signs' as all around us. Planetary Climate Change being at the pentacle
of (change) Revelation.
But as a simpleton, you wouldn't have a clue.
--
Psalm 137 is a story of Arab percucution of Jews.
Regarding Israel, GOD said: "I will bless those who bless you, and I will
curse him who curses you. All of the families of the earth will be blessed
in you."
(Genesis 12:3) <== (this is why the "Islamic world" is in ruins)
Regarding the reestablishment of Israel, GOD said: Now therefore thus saith
the Lord, the God of Israel . . . Behold, I will gather them out of all the
countries, whither I have driven them, in mine anger . . . and I will bring
them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely: and they
shall be my people and I will be their God .
. . (Jeremiah 32:37-38) <== (this expalins the miracle "rebirth" of
Israel in 1948)
God Bless Israel!
God Bless America!
CB
"Mitchell Holman" <noe...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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Secular Humanism as stolen the hope of man to ever lasting live. The Muslim
death cult doesn't multiple out of hope for life everlasting but for
political numbers in the hope of one day being the political majority.
Islam is a political ideology which values death over life
God Who Hates: Islam's Path to Destruction
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.education/browse_thread/thread/5d7b2c1f3d9a7df5
By Gary Lane
CBN News Senior International Correspondent
Sharia - or Islamic law - is gradually working its way into public life in
Islamic and non-Islamic nations around the world.
In the meantime, questions linger on what Sharia is and what it means for
Christians and others forced to abide by it.
Wafa Sultan appeared on Wednesday's edition of The 700 Club to talk about
how Islam is currently at war with itself. She is the author of the book,
"A God Who Hates." Click play
(http://www.amazon.com/God-Who-Hates-Courageous-Inflamed/dp/0312538359/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1259697778&sr=1-1)
to watch the interview with Pat Robertson.
Jeff Hammond is a Christian who has lived and worked in Indonesia, the
world's most populous Muslim nation for 35 years.
"Sharia law is a legal system on the teachings of the Koran, the Sunna and
the Hadith of Mohammed, applied into the community as the legal basis for
life," Hammond explained.
He says Indonesian Christians are concerned about creeping Sharia law, now
in place in half of the country's 32 provinces.
"It's going from one province to another," Hammond said. "It's not something
that's happening all at once, but step by step..."
For instance, even Christian school girls are forced to cover their heads in
Padang province.
Elsewhere in Indonesia, children attending public schools are required to
learn the Koran.
In Indonesia's Bandeh Aceh province, Shariah police make nightly patrols to
ensure that unmarried or non-related couples are not seen together in
public.
"Christians are very concerned, not only because of what is happening here
in Indonesia. They also see reports that are coming from other countries,"
Hammond said.
Such countries include the Islamic nations like Somalia where devotion to
Sharia law caused vigilantes to behead a 25-year-old aid worker for
converting from Islam to Christianity.
There is also Iran where women are legally stoned to death for committing
adultery.
Additionally, prostitutes in Afghanistan are executed for their behavior.
Finally, in Pakistan the government apparently has accepted the imposition
of Sharia law in the Taliban controlled Swat Valley of the North West
Frontier Province. It's a place where violators of Sharia are often
subjected to lashes.
Enforcement of Pakistan's blasphemy laws have led to the imprisonment of
Christians such as 20-year-old Sandal Bibi and her father Gul Sheer on
charges of blasphemy against the Koran.
Sharia also inspires boys like one 12-year-old Pakistani to wage jihad and
behead their enemies without punishment.
Syrian-born American psychiatrist Wafa Sultan is the author of the new book,
A God Who Hates. She argues Islam is currently at war with itself.
She adds that its treatment of women is the genesis of all modern day Muslim
intolerance.
According to Sultan, Islam's progression of violence, self pity and hate
will ultimately lead to the demise of the Muslim world.
*Originally published December 2, 2009.
Obama-Biden in 2012
You borrow the phrase "inalienable rights" as if this were a concept put
into our system by Christians. It wasn't, because the Founding Fathers who
gave us this concept weren't Christians. The gentlemen we commonly refer to
as the Founding Fathers . . . who gave us our Declaration of Independence
and our Constitution . . . were far from the religious views of Sarah Palin
and yourself. They were, for the most part, either Unitarians or of a
strong Deistic persuasion, a persuasion which forms the basics of many
Unitarian concepts.
Thomas Paine openly proclaimed that he was a Deist. Franklin, although
raised as a Puritan, openly expressed many views that would place his
beliefs among those of Deism. Washington, although he attended Episcopalian
services while in office, often and openly expressed Deistic views. Adams
was a Unitarian. Jefferson, while not a member of any church or a
churchgoer, described his religious views as being nearly identical to those
of Joseph Priestly . . . a Deist who led the Unitarian movement in this
country. Madison and Monroe both were relatively irreligious, but expressed
views that were Deistic in nature. John Quincy Adams, like his father, was
a Unitarian. Not a single fundamentalist Christian in the lot.
Deists, while believing in some sort of Creator or Supreme Being, did not
view that "god" as any sort of "higher ruling authority". The Deists and
Unitarians of the 18th century were considered to be "religious liberals",
just as modern Unitarians are often referred to today as "religious
liberals". Liberalism, Unitarianism and the concept of "inalienable rights"
have been hand-in-hand in America for 250 years. It's conservative
fundamentalist Christianity that's always been trying to water down those
rights.
Mitchell Holman
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Wrong. Christianity's base is GUILT. Original
sin, your sin, your father's sin, no matter. You
are GUILTY and can only be redeemed via faith and
giving lots of money to the church of your choice.
> with Muslims it isn't hope
> that drives them to produce, it's over powering the Infidel with
> numbers. Kinda what Liberalism is all about. Although with Liberalism,
> at some point people realize they've been useful idiots for a NWO,
> absent of 'inalienable rights bestowed from on High', doled out by
> Secular Humanists who believe there is no higher ruling authority than
> their own dictates.
It isn't Secular Humanists killing people in Iraq and
Afghanistan and Pakistan and Israel and N. Ireland, it
is religious whackos like yourself.
>
>> so your point is moot.
>
> To fools who have no hope
>
Whereas your "hope" is...72 Virgins in heaven?
>
>
> And calling somebody else "stupid" because
>> they don't believe in your religion is just plain . . . well, STUPID.
>
> Now there's a simple minded statement. It's a shallow man who sums up
> faith and hope in Thee Higher Ruling Authority as, well, stupid.
Who was it who said "faith is the belief in
something you know is not true"?
> Especially when the 'signs' as all around us. Planetary Climate Change
> being at the pentacle of (change) Revelation.
"Whoever wishes to be a Christian, let him pluck out the eyes of
his reason...We must give reason a vacation and enter a different
school. We must refrain from consulting reason. We must bid reason
hold its peace; we must order it to be dead. We must gouge out its
eyes and pluck its feathers...You must kill the other thoughts
and the ways of reason or of the flesh, for God detests them."
--Martin Luther (1483 - 1546)
CB
"Obama-Biden in 2012" <NoTh...@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
Are you a homo, dumb dumb? America's founding fathers WERE most ALLL
Christian!!!
...
The recorded resolutions, speeches, private papers and public prayers of our
early leaders leave no doubt as to their firm belief that America was
conceived as a Christian nation and, with God's help, would always be so.
Gen. George Washington's first general order directed his troops to each
"live and act as becomes a Christian soldier." In 1803 President Thomas
Jefferson authorized the use of federal funds to support Christian
ministries. He further declared the Bible as the primary text for use in
public schools. (So much for the false notion that Jefferson called for the
separation of government affairs and religion.) Benjamin Franklin observed
that one could not take an evening stroll "without hearing psalms being sung
by families on every street." In 1854 the U.S. Congress officially resolved
that "The great, vital, and conservative element in our system is the belief
of our people in the pure doctrines and divine truths of the gospel of Jesus
Christ." Examples such as these typify the faith of our founders. For the
truth about our early history, I suggest William Federer's 700-page volume
entitled "America's God and Country." It may well change how one thinks
about America.
Bob Johnston
http://www.timesnews.net/article.php?id=9012631
George Washington held mass service on the battlefield him self if no church
could be found.
Leading up to the age of Aquarius most retail stores were closed on Sunday
and liquor wasn't sold at all.
America's Godly Heritage highlights the beliefs of many of the famous
Founding Fathers concerning the proper role of Christian principles in
education, in government, and in politics. Learn about what beliefs Founders
George Washington, John Adams, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, James Wilson,
George Mason, John Quincy Adams, and many others held.
America's Godly Heritage also provides excerpts from court cases showing
that for 160 years, Christian principles were part of official American
public life. This DVD graphically display statistics showing what has
happened to America since the courts have begun rejecting the Founders'
beliefs. An excellent primer for those who want to know more about what was
intended for America by the Founders and what can be done to return America
to its original guiding philosophy!
http://www.christianbook.com/americas-godly-heritage-dvd/9781932225655/pd/225917?kw=225917&event=PPCSRC&p=1010575&cm_mmc=Idearc-_-osmx-_-DVDs-_-225917
Do your self a favor, get the book and read it
Mitchell Holman
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Secular humanists aren't strapping bombs to children
and putting them on buses or gunning down policemen in
Northern Ireland or shooting abortion doctors in the back.
> The
> Muslim death cult doesn't multiple out of hope for life everlasting
> but for political numbers in the hope of one day being the political
> majority.
>
Muslim death cult, Christian death cult, Buddhist
death cult, what's the difference? All of you are ready
to kill because your God expects you to.
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should
reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."
Luke 19:27
Obama-Biden in 2012
>
> Are you a homo, dumb dumb? America's founding fathers WERE most ALLL
> Christian!!!
http://antiwarrepublicans.com/foundingfathers.aspx
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin
Poor Richard's Almanack, 1758
"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches." - Benjamin Franklin
"He (the Rev. Mr. Whitefield) used, indeed, sometimes to pray for my
conversion, but never had the satisfaction of believing that his prayers
were heard." - Benjamin Franklin
"I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life, I absenteed
myself from Christian assemblies." - Benjamin Franklin
"Some volumes against Deism fell into my hands. They were said to be the
substance of sermons preached at Boyle's Lecture. It happened that they
produced on me an effect precisely the reverse of what was intended by the
writers; for the arguments of the Deists, which were cited in order to be
refuted, appealed to me much more forcibly than the refutation itself. In a
word, I soon became a thorough Deist." - Benjamin Franklin, from his
autobiography
George Washington was born an Episcopalian, but did not practice this and
his writings and speeches lean more toward Deism. During his presidency he
sometimes attended church services but this may have more to do with
pleasing the people since he did not take communion and often left before
the services were over. After his death the minister of the church, Rev.
Abercrombie was asked about his beliefs and stated "Sir, Washington was a
Deist."
"Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and
irreconcilable hatreds than those which spring from any other cause. I had
hoped that liberal and enlightened thought would have reconciled the
Christians so that their [not our?] religious fights would not endanger the
peace of Society." George Washington Letter to Sir Edward Newenham, June 22,
1792
Note that Washington wrote "their" instead of "our" above.
"The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity." - John
Adams
"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the
Christian religion." - John Adams, Treaty of Tripoly, article 11
"But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been
blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the
most bloody religion that ever existed." - John Adams, letters to family and
other leaders 1735-1826
Jefferson wrote his own version of the Bible, removing all references to
miracles and the supernatural. He did not believe in the divinity of Jesus,
the miracles, the Trinity, or the resurrection.
"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of
Christianity, have been burned, tortured, fined, and imprisoned, yet we have
not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of
coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half
hypocrites." - Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme
Being as His father, in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable
of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." - Thomas Jefferson,
Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823
Like most of the Founding Fathers, Madison was born into an Episcopal
family, but later changed to Deism. Some encyclopedias and other reference
works still cite Madison and other Founding Fathers as being Episcopal, but
their real beliefs were that of Deism.
James Madison was the father of the Constitution, being the principal
author. He made sure there was complete separation of church and state and
that the government could not establish any official religion. His first
veto as president was to veto a faith-based-initiative which would have
given public taxpayer funds to a church to operate a charitable program.
Even though the purpose may have been noble, he did not want to go down that
dangerous slope of setting a precedent, which would have allowed public
funds to go to a religious organization.
"In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of
the people."
"Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every
noble enterprise." - James Madison, April 1, 1774
James Monroe (5th pres.) - Deist
John Quincy Adams (6th pres.) - Unitarian
Deism is a philosophy that rejects supernatural events (prophecy, miracles)
and asserts that God does not intervene with the affairs of human life and
the laws of the universe. What organized religions see as divine revelation
and holy books, deists see as man-made fictions by other humans, rather than
as authoritative sources. Deists believe that God's greatest gift to
humanity is not religion, but the ability to reason.
The Constitution does not state the term God anywhere and the reference to
"Creator" in the Declaration of Independence is often taken out of context.
The Founding Fathers wrote "Creator" in the famous, "all men are created
equal and that we are endowed from our Creator with certain unalienable
Rights among them Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness" to mean God,
but not the God of the Judeo-Christian tradition of a human-like person who
sits in judgment over his flock.
Deism developed out of the Age of Enlightenment in Europe when there was a
questioning of religious scriptures among leading intellectuals and
philosophers. Deism virtually died out around the end of the 19th century
because it primarily appealed to intellectuals, the highly educated, and
philosophers and not the masses.
The main principles of Deism are the rejection of books that claim to be the
revealed word of God (such as the Bible, the Qur'an, etc.), the rejection of
stories of miracles and prophecies, and the rejection of the account of
creation in Genesis (thus, effectively making Deism compatible to the theory
of evolution).
As an almost non-theistic religion or philosophy that rejects the
creationism of Genesis, Deism actually has more in common with the Eastern
religions of Buddhism (The Dhamma), Daoism, and Confucianism; than it does
to the big three Western religions of the Judeo-Christian tradition.
Some famous deists include:
Adam Smith, architect of modern capitalism
Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father
David Hume, philosopher, economist, historian
George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
James Monroe
John Locke, philosopher
Thomas Paine, Founding Father, philosopher
Victor Hugo, poet, human rights activist
Voltaire, philosopher
tmurf1
> Palin Says Nation Should Rededicate Itself to God
>
> http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/us_palin_billy_graham/2009/12/04/2...
>
> Sarah Palin says the United States should rededicate itself to seeking
> God's will, arguing that a humble spirit could help leaders get more answers
> on issues such as healthcare, energy and national security.
>
> In a video released Friday by the Billy Graham Evangelistic
> Association, the 2008 Republican candidate for vice president said it's
> important for leaders to acknowledge they don't have all the answers.
>
> "No one person has all the right answers," Palin said. "It takes a
> united nation, and it does take godly counsel, and it takes prayer and
> answers to prayer - and a collective humble heart of a nation seeking God's
> hand of protection and his blessings of prosperity. I think if we can get
> back to that, our country will be a safer, more prosperous and healthier
> nation."
>
> The former Alaska governor referred to an Abraham Lincoln proclamation
> that declared a day of national humiliation, fasting, and prayer. She said
> the United States has been "touched by God" because the nation's early
> leaders dedicated the country to God.
>
> "If we could get back to that - that humbleness, with that kind of
> contrite spirit - I think that we would be able to be provided more of the
> answers to so many of the great challenges that we're facing," Palin said.
> "And these are huge challenges, whether we're talking about healthcare,
> whether we're talking about energy independence, whether we're talking about
> national security measures."
>
> Parts of Palin's interview with the Billy Graham group have been
> released since she traveled a couple weeks ago to meet the aging religious
> leader at his western North Carolina home, where they dined and prayed.
> Franklin Graham, who now leads the Charlotte-based association his father
> founded, said he has been impressed by Palin's commitment to faith, family
> and country.
>
> In the videos, Palin talked about some of the "shots" she takes in the
> media and in politics.
>
> "God strengthens me through the challenges," Palin said, adding that
> she believes in a line from the Bible she paraphrased as: "What the enemy
> seeks to destroy you with, no, God is going to turn it around for good."
>
> "God has so blessed me in really manifesting that promise over and
> over and over in my life," she said.
>
> Billy Graham, 91, has been a counsel to presidents and politicians for
> decades, though he now remains largely secluded due to deteriorating health.
> Palin was visiting North Carolina last month as part of a book tour for her
> new memoir, "Going Rogue."
>
> © 2009 Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be
> published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
>
> --
> CB
> "Because we honor justice and the common good," it states, "we will
> not comply with any edict that purports to compel our institutions to
> participate in abortions, embryo-destructive research, assisted suicide or
> euthanasia or any other anti-life act; nor will we bend to any rule
> purporting to force us to bless immoral sexual partnerships, treat them as
> marriages or the equivalent, or refrain from proclaiming the truth, as we
> know it, about morality and immorality and marriage and the family."
>
> Religious Leaders Call for Civil Disobedience if Laws Don't Respect Faithhttp://www.newsmax.com/headlines/wuerl_colson_christian/2009/11/21/28...
Dear Mr. CB Have you ever considered that you may be very very
insane. I think you should talk to an independent professional in the
mental health field. You may benefit, think about it.
RichTravsky
> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
He's thinking of you showering with little boys
RT
RichTravsky
> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in
> >>> >>>> "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
He wants christian women to stay home and be barefoot and pregnant.
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CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
Common now, we know it's more like you and Gay'wee
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
You miss your mommy?
CB
"tmurf1" <tmurp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I appreciate your concern but I'm more in control of my world than most
people. For one I planned for life. That alone goes a long way in keeping
order. It's people who depend on gubment to bail them out, hold their hand
that chaos rules. The exception of course are the 'temporarily' down and
out. Their strong will and motivation gives hope to their plans to break out
of poverty, leaving the world of chaos behind.
tmurf1
> "tmurf1" <tmurpha...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
You planned for life? Where were you before you had life and you were
making these plans? Did you write down your pre-life plans or did you
memorize them?
CB
I stayed in skoo, kept it zipped or covered and stayed to the plan
Kevin Cunningham
Can you show us the part of the plan that lets you be a racist? That
justification would be fascinating.
CB
"Kevin Cunningham" <sms...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Goo goo duh'Oboobuh?
Kevin Cunningham
What more do I need to say. Racism, pure and simple.
CB
Don't tell me you have 10 kids from seven different women. Was that a racist
comment? I bet from a race baiter like you it be.
Now go beat your mammy
CB
"CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
You need to come outz duh closetz
Hiccum Blurpaedius
RichTravsky
Where's the lip action you reprobate? - CB, trolling for gay sex
RichTravsky
> "RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
You miss showering with little boys.
You perverted natural affection and attempt to pervert Dr. Dobson's
natural affection with his son.
RichTravsky
Greet ye one another with a kiss of charity.
Was Jesus gay?
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
Those are my words about you
RichTravsky
Those are your words approving of showering with little boys.
RT
RichTravsky
> CB wrote:
> > "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote in message
No answer.
RT
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
You two should get a 'reprobate' room
CB
"RichTravsky" <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com> wrote in message
Your reprobate mind corrupts natural effection, turning innocence into
something sick only a homo could do
RichTravsky
Where's the lip action you reprobate? - CB
RichTravsky
CB affirms approving of showering with little boys.
RT