"family jewels": still secret after all these years
Allen L. Barker
[A common way that people try to discredit allegations of large-scale
government crimes is to claim that the government cannot keep secrets.
The idea -- which is false in general -- is that a secret cannot be
maintained by a conspiracy of people, inside and outside the
government, in leak-prone Washington. There is a serious sample bias
at work, though, since the crimes that we *do* hear the CIA et
al. complaining were leaked or declassified are the only ones that we
hear about at all. What the public does hear is usually a
limited-hangout version, at that, and often 50 years too late.
As far as claims that groups of people cannot keep secrets, it is often
the case that not as many people would have needed to be in on a secret
as was originally asserted. That is, some conspiracies could
potentially involve far fewer people than certain straw-man arguments
presume. The GAO, for example, recently reported that a small number
of people could undetectably hack an election conducted with certain
voting equipment.
It is also sometimes the case that there are "open secrets," which
many people -- including journalists -- *do* know about but about
which they maintain an omerta-like silence (for various reasons).
Societies of torture typically do this in regard to domestic torture,
for example. The human radiation experiments provide an example,
as do some aspects of what the CIA's IG called "clandestine operations
to control human behavior." The Tuskegee experiments were actually
written up and published in medical journals, but the information was
purposely kept from the infected men long after syphilis could be
cured.
Finally, it is often the case that the government does indeed keep
secrets, and quite well. Notice that the people claiming the
government cannot keep secrets somehow have no idea exactly which
codes have been broken by the NSA. How can that be? The NSA didn't
even tell President Truman about certain broken codes... The excerpts
from the article below provide more examples. It is quite clear that
the Church Committee investigations (and other investigations in the
70s) barely scratched the surface of government crimes -- and this
turning of a blind eye was often intentional. The lives of the
citizens victimized by such crimes essentially count for nothing.
What "family jewels" from the 70s remain undisclosed to this day?
Even crimes from back then are still hidden, along with many later
and ongoing abuses. The system is broken, and business-as-usual has
failed catastrophically. The technologies of political control have
made frightening advances over the past decades. Citizens need to
wake up to this reality if there is to be any hope for future
generations to live as free people. Back in 1975, Sen. Frank
Church warned:
"If this country ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever
took charge in this country, the technological capacity that
the intelligence community has given the government could
enable it to impose total tyranny and there would be no way
to fight back because the most careful effort to combine
together in resistance to the government, no matter how
privately it was done, is within the reach of the government
to know."
]
------------------------------
The Enduring JFK Mystery
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2005/112205a.html
By Lisa Pease
November 22, 2005
[...]
Former Sen. Hart, a Colorado Democrat, recounted his experiences on
the Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with
Respect to Intelligence Activities, more popularly known as the
"Church Committee" after its leader, Sen. Frank Church.
Hart began with a disclaimer saying he didn't read the assassination
books, hadn't reviewed his Church Committee files, and warned that
everything he said should be prefaced with, "as I recall."
Little Interest
According to Hart, there was little interest among Committee members
in seriously investigating the intelligence community. There had been
little oversight of the CIA since its creation 28 years
earlier. Reviewing the CIA's operations seemed both a gargantuan and
ultimately unnecessary task. The Vietnam War was in its last days, and
there was the sense that poking around in Agency business might
undermine morale.
The Committee members also realized that if there was even one leak,
their work would be over. That's one of the reasons there was so
little oversight in the years up to that point. Simply put, the CIA
did not trust Congress to keep its secrets. So they implemented strict
security.
One day, CIA Director William Colby asked for even more security than
ever before. He wanted the room swept for bugs before they
began. Colby also insisted only members, not their staff, attended.
At that session, Colby presented Committee members with the 600-page
Inspector General report on Agency abuses, a document popularly known
as the "family jewels." Included in that document were tales of drug
experiments on both witting and unwitting subjects, the wholesale
opening of mail, bugging operations, and plots to overthrow
governments including -- "with almost demented insistence," Hart said
-- the attempts to kill Fidel Castro.
The Committee members were shocked. And significantly, Hart said that
only a few items from that report have ever made it to the public,
begging the question of what other abuses occurred. How can we measure
the success of Congressional oversight if we don't know if any of
those other abuses were successfully handled?
Hart recounted an episode where he had the chance to meet one of the
CIA's top contract assassins, known only as QJ/WIN. After a long
series of instructions, Hart arrived at the location, only to find
QJ/WIN did not want to talk to him. Hart wrote about that episode in
fictional form in the novel Double Man (co-written with William
Cohen).
[...]
Bamford discussed documents from Operation Northwoods, a plan that
called for a wave of terrorism inside the United States that falsely
would be blamed on Fidel Castro and become the justification for
invading Cuba.
At one point, all the Joint Chiefs had signed off on these
plans. Kennedy stood alone in opposing this, and one is left wondering
if that was one of the prime motives for his murder.
Professor Blakey's hands shook slightly as he spoke to the group
gathered for dinner on Saturday night. He confessed that he had
trusted the CIA too much.
CIA Director Stansfield Turner showed Blakey a letter in which Turner
admonished CIA people not to lie to the committee members. Blakey
believed that was enough. He finds now that was not the case.
[...]
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Lisa Agnes Gardner
Something very covert has been fighting very hard against some
of us for the last ten years or so.
This was an attempt to kill us in our beds before we 'awoke',
I think.
This something is embedded in this country. It is not an outsider.
It is something much of the government and those in power have
given themselves over to in exchange for 'goodies', I think.
Essentially, the government is assisting this thing in trying to
'do in' people like you and I, Allen. This is what I believe. The
government does this because of what it can get from this
'something' by doing these things to us.
I don't think it suceeded in killing us, but the fight still goes on.
May we all become stronger with god's help.
Good luck and hang in there.
Lisa
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Daniel Jackson
Dec 22 2000, 1:30 pm show options
artwholeflaf...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Ask O-Borg to let you into the "Blue" room at the NRO. I can assure
> you that what you would see will amaze and stun the average person.
There is simply no such thing as the BLUE room @ NRO.
************************************************
(Note added Thanksgiving day 2005 5:05)
Right.Its at the farm, in the side of a hill.
**********************************************
Besides, it's *CLASSIFIED*!
-Brother Blue, B:.B:., Ph.D., 33°
Sublime Lodge of the Blue Brethren
Sacerdotal Knights of National Security
USENET Meme Propagation Directorate
_____________________________ -=oOo=- _____________________________
"I get these messages from other planets. I'm apparently some kind
of agent from another planet, but I haven't got my orders clearly
decoded yet." -William S. Burroughs
> > FBI's Carnivore hunts in a pack
> > Declassified documents reveal details about the e-mail snoop program.
> > By Brock Meeks, MSNBC
> > October 18, 2000 4:44 AM PT
> > WASHINGTON -- Carnivore, the FBI's controversial e-mail snooping
program, is
> > part of covert surveillance triad known inside the bureau as the
"DragonWare
> > Suite," according to recently declassified documents. The documents also
> > outline how the DragonWare Suite is more than simply an e-mail snooping
> > program: It's capable of reconstructing the Web surfing trail of someone
> > under investigation.
> You may be excused Mikal 606.
Ordinary World
Duran Duran
Came in from a rainy Thursday
on the avenue
thought I heard you talking softly
I turned on the lights, the TV
and the radio
still I can't escape the ghost of you
What has happened to it all?
Crazy, some'd say
Where is the life that I recognize?
gone away
But I won't cry for yesterday
there's an ordinary world
Somehow I have to find
and as I try to make my way
to the ordinary world
I will learn to survive
Passion or coincidence
once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well now pride's gone out the window
cross the rooftops
run away
left me in the vacuum of my heart
What is happening to me?
Crazy, some'd say
Where is my friend when I need you most?
Gone away
but I won't cry for yesterday
there's an ordinary world
somehow I have to find
and as I try to make my way
to the ordinary world
I will learn to survive
Papers in the roadside
tell of suffering and greed
here today, forgot tomorrow
ooh, here besides the news
of holy war and holy need
ours is just a little sorrowed talk
And I don't cry for yesterday
there's an ordinary world
Somehow I have to find
and as I try to make my way
to the ordinary world
I will learn to survive
every one
is my world, I will learn to survive
any one
is my world, I will learn to survive
any one
is my world
every one
is my world
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artwholeflaf...@my-deja.com wrote:
> Ask O-Borg to let you into the "Blue" room at the NRO. I can assure
> you that what you would see will amaze and stun the average person.
There is simply no such thing as the BLUE room @ NRO.
************************************************
(Note added Thanksgiving day 2005 5:05)
Right.Its at the farm, in the side of a hill.
**********************************************
Besides, it's *CLASSIFIED*!
-Brother Blue, B:.B:., Ph.D., 33°
Sublime Lodge of the Blue Brethren
Sacerdotal Knights of National Security
USENET Meme Propagation Directorate
_____________________________ -=oOo=- _____________________________
"I get these messages from other planets. I'm apparently some kind
of agent from another planet, but I haven't got my orders clearly
decoded yet." -William S. Burroughs
Leo Sgouros
Dec 6 1999, 3:00 am show options
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From: "Leo Sgouros" <lsgou...@tampabay.rr.com> - Find messages by this
author
Date: 1999/12/06
Subject: Re: Are UFO aliens the angels of God? There is a duality to man,
and calling it "my story" is not quite correct.
It is about an attempt to make a better spy, an evil government, and how
something else happened entirely.
It is about the 1980's, and several desperate measures in an attempt to
solve problems by throwing money, technology, and fresh victims, young
minds, at it.
It is entirely true, and yet all a lie.
It is up to each to find their truth.
Sounds like I'm preachy and weird, but this story is not even over yet.
Patience.
L
Leo Sgouros
Dec 1 1998, 3:00 am show options
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From: "Leo Sgouros" <lsgou...@tampabay.rr.com> - Find messages by this
author
Date: 1998/12/01
barrett john erickson wrote in message ...
>neu (adj.,)
>a contraction of neuter.
>neutopia (n.)
>senseless gibberish disguised as a psuedo-philosophical vision.
>neu neutopia (n.)
>neutered senseless gibberish disguised as psuedo-philosophical vision.
>neu surrealist (n., illiterate)
>a neutered psuedo-surrealist, or one who promotes a mutilation of
surrealist
>theory in which desire is flattened and the "liberation of the imagination"
>has been deformed into the "manipulation of buttons."
>personalist (n.)
>one who proclaims that he/she is entitled to ignore shared reality and
>existing context (historical and current) especially when discussing
matters
>of theory -- particularly surrealist theory. The personalist believes, for
>example, that it is sufficient for him/her to declare some belief or
>position compatible with "surrealism" for it to be so (e.g. religion) and
>that the disagreement (even universal disagreement) of surrealists past and
>present is irrelevant. Consequently, the personalist is often found in a
>defensive posture, hopelessly outnumbered by those he/she claims are trying
>to enforce some orthodoxy, but who are in reality only insisting that they
>have no obligation to accept the personalist's unilateral redefinitions,
and
>will continue to challenge them as incompatible with that theory as it
>already exists.
>reality (n.,)
>usually referring to manifest reality or reality-as-experienced, this is a
>word in significant transition due to the advancing probes of science and
>art. It is now recognized as an enactive process and requires distinction
>between its sub-processes before any in-depth discussion so as to avoid
>significant confusion:
> latent reality
> personal reality
> shared reality
>surreal (adj., illiterate)
>a vulgar colloquialism popularized as a synonym for "weird" or "bizarre,"
>this is a word with no meaning whatsoever among surrealists, except as a
>certain identifier of the user's carelessness or ignorance. [also: --
>surrealistic, (adj.) -- surrealistically, (adv.)]
>surrealism (n.,)
>one of the most misused words of our time. Its communicative value is
>limited to attempts to correct misrepresentations of the surrealist
project.
>Should always be enclosed in quotation marks to acknowledge its recuperated
>status in popular culture.
>surrealist (n.)
>a person who has understood and committed him/herself to the surrealist
>project as it has been theoretically explored, witnessed and collectively
>practiced -- not as a "school" or a "style" or a "club" or a "set of rules"
>but as the intuitive recognition of a fundamental life imperative. A
>surrealist is one who has internalized and _extended_ (not contradicted and
>reversed) this project in freshly discovered fields of investigation as
well
>as along existing trajectories toward the marvelous begun by fallen
>colleagues.
>surrealist project (n., process)
>the fundamental life imperative among surrealists, revolutionary in scope
>and intent. The surrealist project is a continuous process directed toward
>achieving an enhanced reality -- a (sur)reality -- in which the liberated
>imagination is fully integrated into daily living. Surrealists recognize
>this as a collective and collaborative process requiring a social
>transformation as well as a personal one.
>truth (n.,)
>a social agreement on particular characteristics or attributes of shared
>reality (the greater the consensus, the more compelling the "truth"). As
>such, it is significantly less interesting than reality. [syn: fact]
>-- barrett
> barr...@MagneticFields.org
> http://www.MagneticFields.org/>
>"Everything tends to make us believe that there exists a certain point of
>the mind at which life and death, the real and the imagined, past and
>future, the communicable and the incommunicable, high and low, cease to be
>perceived as contradictions."
> ...André Breton
>Well well well.
Breton at " The Farm" s blue room.
What would make grown people alter the realities of armed men?
The room is built into a hill.
You go in armed and usually drugged.
The walls, the lights, the million dollar sonic hologram and elf
"bone-speaker" distorts you so much when you come out gravity,speech,
perception, everything is all wankled. An event is staged in front of you.
Later, after the anti-dote is fed to you in orange juice{cranberry doesnt
work!}
you learn if you passed.
Next step?
Create your own VIABLE language.
Officer training.
Saviour of normalcy, exposer
From: "Leo Sgouros"
Date: 1998/12/01
Subject: Re: a short book of definitions (an exercise in reflex)
What do you think about a place that puts people into manufactured reality
and demands a life or death decision from them?Where the herd mentality is
gauged while a "your patner is a double agent" meme gets sown into your
calcium phosphate?While you all are hoding what you think are loaded guns?
Welcome to The Blue Room.
-for we cannot measure, shivers of pleasure-
Leo Sgouros
Aug 7 1999, 2:00 am show options
Newsgroups: alt.surrealism
From: "Leo Sgouros"
Date: 1999/08/07
Subject: Re: Messsage to Leo Sgouros
> Did you read that posting I made in aav this week about the weirdest
> conspiracy around (paedophila/mind control/gun control/US presidents
> (plural) involvement).
> Paul
Ok found it.
Yes, its all there.
All lies, but not lies.
There is a truth to these stories that lie outside the recollection of
events, which are preposterous.
However, these same images, names, messages, and a frightening amount of
detail, phone numbers, and tape recordings convinced me that what is
operating here is very sophisticated.
First, look who the targets are.
Now add-
Sex, drugs, slave, rape,conspiracy, ONI, submarines....all the buttons some
thunderstruck *man* will freak over if he is in contact with one of these
creatures.,if our swallow decides to latch on to one and do what comes
natural(but for her the process appears devastating)
Now why would some shadowy group want to have a little flock of these
zombies passing these same "secrets" into willing ears all over?
They dont really remember alot of periods, because they were high.usually
crystal meth, wich reinforces paranoia and produces. frightening "meth
monster" hallucinations.
herds people into predictable, repetative patterns.
Of course, they arent go to put that in their book either.
This is it, though.
Blue room/
Now for a breather.
.
Keep asking.
You mean, how to bring about a revolution in thinking without arming
half-breeds?
The Blue Room was a place created to make smarter warriors-it was shut down
because it was *dangerous* to create smart soldiers.
Dangerous to the existing order.
However like all military projects it was flawed because it tinkered with
the minds of soldiers-what a self fulfilling booby trap/
The commanders were *not*allowed to partake, as with aliens, the very
existence of certain ideas changes you forever.
"Lisa Agnes Gardner" <lgardne...@cal.berkeley.edu> wrote in message
news:b5nhf.1596$A23....@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Keep fighting, Allen.
>
> Something very covert has been fighting very hard against some
> of us for the last ten years or so.
>
> This was an attempt to kill us in our beds before we 'awoke',
> I think.
>
> This something is embedded in this country. It is not an outsider.
> It is something much of the government and those in power have
> given themselves over to in exchange for 'goodies', I think.
>
> Essentially, the government is assisting this thing in trying to
> 'do in' people like you and I, Allen. This is what I believe. The
> government does this because of what it can get from this
> 'something' by doing these things to us.
>
> I don't think it suceeded in killing us, but the fight still goes on.
>
> May we all become stronger with god's help.
>
> Good luck and hang in there.
>
> Lisa
Gee Lisa, I am amazed you have forgotten that I AM one of those little
jewells, not the originalas, they happened before me, but did not I myself
tell you it never stopped.remind me if I didnt, so that I might remind you,
and then apologize for forgetting.