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On 11月7日, 上午8时58分, Free Tibet <freeti...@nym.mixmin.net> wrote:
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> America Needs Human Rights in China
> Beijing's abuses affect many issues the U.S. holds dear.
> by Sophie Richardson
>
> Published in: The Wall Street Journal
> November 4, 2009
>
> "Don't they know they need us?" So wrote a Chinese human-rights activist friend of
> mine, expressing frustration at the Obama administration. Since taking office,
> President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton-both of whom mustered some
> criticism of China's rights record while they were candidates-have said that human
> rights shouldn't "interfere" with other issues in the U.S.-China relationship,
> knuckled preemptively under Chinese pressure not to meet the Dalai Lama, and
> generally behaved as if the United States has no power in the bilateral relationship.
>
> The Obama team seems to think that such an approach will elicit greater cooperation
> from China. This is a miscalculation that demoralizes China's small but vibrant
> human-rights community and gives the government leeway to crack down harder. As
> President Obama prepares for his first trip to China later this month, he needs to
> rethink his approach.
>
> Beijing is clearly moving backward on human rights. Since Mr. Obama took office, the
> Chinese government has disbarred human-rights lawyers, rolled back key legal reforms,
> imprisoned critics and further tightened Internet and press censorship. It has tried
> to unilaterally impose new filtering software on all computers sold in
> China-ostensibly to block pornography but probably to control political discourse
> too. It has executed Tibetans suspected of taking part in March 2008 protests,
> despite concerns about due process, and "disappeared" dozens of Uighur men and boys
> in the wake of the July protests in Xinjiang.
>
> The human-rights deterioration in China directly affects the U.S. and other Chinese
> trading partners. For example, the domestic press was prepared to write about a
> widespread case of tainted milk in June last year, but due to the ban on bad news
> during the Beijing Olympics, the story wasn't published until September. By that
> point, tens of thousands of children, including some outside China, were sickened,
> and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued a general alert against processed
> foods from China. This had echoes of the SARS outbreak, which Beijing tried to handle
> by stifling all news of it. While the profusion of domestic Chinese media outlets in
> recent years implies a trend toward greater openness, the reality is that the
> government can and does continue to restrict expression, regardless of the
> consequences.
>
> Given China's importance to efforts to fight climate change, the Obama administration
> has expressed unprecedented interest in China's environmental practices. But hopes
> for real environmental change will go unfulfilled if the Chinese government does not
> provide more transparent information about pollution and environmental degradation,
> and does not improve its tolerance of whistleblowers and environmental activists. It
> is precisely these people who should be sought out by U.S. government, because they
> would be instrumental in actually enforcing any agreement on the ground.
>
> The crackdown has an impact on businesses operating in China, too. Executives of
> Australian mining giant Rio Tinto were jailed in July on grounds of violating state
> secrets laws and are still behind bars. While the charges were downgraded in August
> to "industrial espionage," the fact that they were initially accused and held for a
> month under the state secrets law still is worrying. The contents of the
> state-secrets law are classified, making it impossible to know how to avoid violating
> it, especially in a commercial context. A "state-secrets" charge cannot be challenged
> in open court-and can be applied retroactively.
>
> Nor is this the only threat to foreign businesses posed by China's legal system. Jude
> Shao, an American businessman arrested in China in 1998 on charges of bribery and tax
> evasion, was unable to speak to a lawyer until his trial commenced more than two
> years after his arrest. After a trial without due process, he was sentenced to 16
> years in prison, 10 of which he served before being released on parole. It is
> manifestly in the interest of the global business community to press for systemic
> legal reform.
>
> Ironically, the most vigorous-and effective-defense of human rights to date from the
> Obama administration emanated not from the White House or the State Department, but
> from the U.S. Trade Representative and the Department of Commerce. When the Chinese
> government announced in June its intention to install Internet filtering software on
> all personal computers, these two agencies publicly objected not just on pragmatic
> policy grounds that to do so would be incompatible with World Trade Organization
> rules, but also that it would threaten "freedom of expression, and the free flow of
> information."
>
> These incidents demonstrate that basic, universal human rights-such as the right to
> freedom of speech and assembly-are inextricably linked to trade and security issues.
> It is profoundly shortsighted not to try to make progress on both. Without the right
> to speak one's mind peacefully in public, and without the right to seek redress
> through a legal system that considers all who come before it equal, the potential for
> serious unrest remains high. The state-run press has quickly mobilized sometimes
> virulent and violent anti-American sentiment, clearly illustrating the relationship
> between the uncensored flow of information and the full spectrum of U.S.-China
> relations.
>
> As President Obama himself told the United Nations General Assembly in September,
> democracy and human rights are not "afterthoughts," but are instead "essential to
> achieving" America's core economic and security goals. The president needs to explain
> publicly that the protection and promotion of human rights in China is not a
> millstone in the larger bilateral relationship, but part of the fundamental premise.
> Without it, all major goals in U.S.-China relations will remain elusive.
>
> Ms. Richardson is the Asia advocacy director of Human Rights Watch.
>
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> America Needs Human Rights in China
> Beijing's abuses affect many issues the U.S. holds dear.
> by Sophie Richardson
>
> Published in: The Wall Street Journal
> November 4, 2009
>
> "Don't they know they need us?" So wrote a Chinese human-rights activist friend of
> mine, expressing frustration at the Obama administration. Since taking office,
> President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton-both of whom mustered some
> criticism of China's rights record while they were candidates-have said that human
> rights shouldn't "interfere" with other issues in the U.S.-China relationship,
> knuckled preemptively under Chinese pressure not to meet the Dalai Lama, and
> generally behaved as if the United States has no power in the bilateral relationship.
>
> The Obama team seems to think that such an approach will elicit greater cooperation
> from China. This is a miscalculation that demoralizes China's small but vibrant
> human-rights community and gives the government leeway to crack down harder. As
> President Obama prepares for his first trip to China later this month, he needs to
> rethink his approach.
>
> Beijing is clearly moving backward on human rights. Since Mr. Obama took office, the
> Chinese government has disbarred human-rights lawyers, rolled back key legal reforms,
> imprisoned critics and further tightened Internet and press censorship. It has tried
> to unilaterally impose new filtering software on all computers sold in
> China-ostensibly to block pornography but probably to control political discourse
> too. It has executed Tibetans suspected of taking part in March 2008 protests,
> despite concerns about due process, and "disappeared" dozens of Uighur men and boys
> in the wake of the July protests in Xinjiang.
>
> The human-rights deterioration in China directly affects the U.S. and other Chinese
> trading partners. For example, the domestic press was prepared to write about a
> widespread case of tainted milk in June last year, but due to the ban on bad news
> during the Beijing Olympics, the story wasn't published until September. By that
> point, tens of thousands of children, including some outside China, were sickened,
> and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued a general alert against processed
> foods from China. This had echoes of the SARS outbreak, which Beijing tried to handle
> by stifling all news of it. While the profusion of domestic Chinese media outlets in
> recent years implies a trend toward greater openness, the reality is that the
> government can and does continue to restrict expression, regardless of the
> consequences.
>
> Given China's importance to efforts to fight climate change, the Obama administration
> has expressed unprecedented interest in China's environmental practices. But hopes
> for real environmental change will go unfulfilled if the Chinese government does not
> provide more transparent information about pollution and environmental degradation,
> and does not improve its tolerance of whistleblowers and environmental activists. It
> is precisely these people who should be sought out by U.S. government, because they
> would be instrumental in actually enforcing any agreement on the ground.
>
> The crackdown has an impact on businesses operating in China, too. Executives of
> Australian mining giant Rio Tinto were jailed in July on grounds of violating state
> secrets laws and are still behind bars. While the charges were downgraded in August
> to "industrial espionage," the fact that they were initially accused and held for a
> month under the state secrets law still is worrying. The contents of the
> state-secrets law are classified, making it impossible to know how to avoid violating
> it, especially in a commercial context. A "state-secrets" charge cannot be challenged
> in open court-and can be applied retroactively.
>
> Nor is this the only threat to foreign businesses posed by China's legal system. Jude
> Shao, an American businessman arrested in China in 1998 on charges of bribery and tax
> evasion, was unable to speak to a lawyer until his trial commenced more than two
> years after his arrest. After a trial without due process, he was sentenced to 16
> years in prison, 10 of which he served before being released on parole. It is
> manifestly in the interest of the global business community to press for systemic
> legal reform.
>
> Ironically, the most vigorous-and effective-defense of human rights to date from the
> Obama administration emanated not from the White House or the State Department, but
> from the U.S. Trade Representative and the Department of Commerce. When the Chinese
> government announced in June its intention to install Internet filtering software on
> all personal computers, these two agencies publicly objected not just on pragmatic
> policy grounds that to do so would be incompatible with World Trade Organization
> rules, but also that it would threaten "freedom of expression, and the free flow of
> information."
>
> These incidents demonstrate that basic, universal human rights-such as the right to
> freedom of speech and assembly-are inextricably linked to trade and security issues.
> It is profoundly shortsighted not to try to make progress on both. Without the right
> to speak one's mind peacefully in public, and without the right to seek redress
> through a legal system that considers all who come before it equal, the potential for
> serious unrest remains high. The state-run press has quickly mobilized sometimes
> virulent and violent anti-American sentiment, clearly illustrating the relationship
> between the uncensored flow of information and the full spectrum of U.S.-China
> relations.
>
> As President Obama himself told the United Nations General Assembly in September,
> democracy and human rights are not "afterthoughts," but are instead "essential to
> achieving" America's core economic and security goals. The president needs to explain
> publicly that the protection and promotion of human rights in China is not a
> millstone in the larger bilateral relationship, but part of the fundamental premise.
> Without it, all major goals in U.S.-China relations will remain elusive.
>
> Ms. Richardson is the Asia advocacy director of Human Rights Watch.
>
> ~~~
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> Date: Sat Nov 7 00:58:00 2009 GMT
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You are one of those liberal arts soft major students whose
methodology of thinking is by and large based on empty words...
Peter Terpstra
Nov 6, 2009, 11:48:39 PM11/6/09
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fyf...@gmail.com in <9e253c81-036a-4926-b81b-
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> You are one of those liberal arts soft major students whose
> methodology of thinking is by and large based on empty words.
Just take the article for what it is and do not fantasize and twist so much
:-)
Peter
--
Amnesty International Report 2009 on China:
http://report2009.amnesty.org/en/regions/asia-pacific/china
Peter Terpstra
Nov 7, 2009, 12:10:36 AM11/7/09
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Free Tibet in <200911070058...@fleegle.mixmin.net> :
> America Needs Human Rights in China
> Beijing's abuses affect many issues the U.S. holds dear
[...]
> Without it, all major goals in U.S.-China relations will remain elusive.
Nice to know!
P.
rst0wxyz
Nov 7, 2009, 3:21:10 AM11/7/09
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On Nov 6, 7:17 pm, "fyfp...@gmail.com" <fyfp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You are one of those liberal arts soft major students whose
> methodology of thinking is by and large based on empty words...
> You are one of those liberal arts soft major students whose
> methodology of thinking is by and large based on empty words...
He's an old hack AP cameraman who had never seen the inside of a
college classroom.
fyf...@gmail.com
Nov 9, 2009, 2:30:57 AM11/9/09
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He probably never got his high school diploma....
Miguel Alberto
Nov 9, 2009, 6:43:52 AM11/9/09
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The Communist Chinese are sending intelligence agents here to
infiltrate our federal bureaucracy. And they have infiltrated our
federal bureaucracy, and they are undermining our government. They are
trying to ruin us. They are softening us up for a takeover.
One example is where a Communist Chinese bureaucrat, who got into
the Department of Veterans' Affairs says that if a veteran got injured
from a bomb in an Iraqi market place he isn't entitled to any VA
assistance like one who got injured in formal warfare.
Many more Communist Chinese infiltrators are abusing the federal
bureaucracy. You can call them "ting" (rigid) "chens" (bureaucrats),
rigid bureaucrats, as they pose to be. Some ting chens are doctors who
are trying to blind veterans with corticosteroids, refusing any
alternative treatments.
With the concern over Islam, any concern for the tyranny of
Communism has been brushed aside, and these ting chens are ruining our
government, and causing human suffering, American human suffering. Wake
up and clean up now before it's too late.
infiltrate our federal bureaucracy. And they have infiltrated our
federal bureaucracy, and they are undermining our government. They are
trying to ruin us. They are softening us up for a takeover.
One example is where a Communist Chinese bureaucrat, who got into
the Department of Veterans' Affairs says that if a veteran got injured
from a bomb in an Iraqi market place he isn't entitled to any VA
assistance like one who got injured in formal warfare.
Many more Communist Chinese infiltrators are abusing the federal
bureaucracy. You can call them "ting" (rigid) "chens" (bureaucrats),
rigid bureaucrats, as they pose to be. Some ting chens are doctors who
are trying to blind veterans with corticosteroids, refusing any
alternative treatments.
With the concern over Islam, any concern for the tyranny of
Communism has been brushed aside, and these ting chens are ruining our
government, and causing human suffering, American human suffering. Wake
up and clean up now before it's too late.
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