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mg

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Apr 25, 2012, 3:18:03 PM4/25/12
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"Beyonce was named People magazine’s “Most Beautiful” woman for 2012.
The singer told the magazine that being a new mother has made her feel
more beautiful than ever and has given her a new sense of purpose."

"Sofia Vergara, the Colombian bombshell of “Modern Family” fame, has
often joked about her good looks, including bits from her recent stint
hosting "Saturday Night Live."
http://www.timesunion.com/entertainment/article/Beyonce-named-People-s-most-beautiful-woman-3509712.php

Someday whites will be a minority and Southern whites will be a
minority within a minority. So what is the solution? Is the solution
new state laws that make it harder for them to vote?

"New State Voting Laws May Affect More Than 5 Million
Could Have Significant Impact on 2012 Presidential Election

By Robert Longley, About.com Guide

Updated March 04, 2012

New state laws dealing with the right to vote enacted since the 2008
election may cause more than 5 million eligible voters to find it
significantly harder or even impossible to cast ballots in 2010,
according to a new report from the non-partisan Brennan Center for
Justice.

As is often the case with laws dealing with voter registration and
qualifications, the 19 new laws and two executive actions enacted in
14 states this year will most affect minority, poor and young
voters. . . ."

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepoliticalsystem/a/New-State-Voting-Laws.htm

High Miles

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Apr 25, 2012, 3:57:28 PM4/25/12
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On 4/25/2012 2:18 PM, mg wrote:
> "Beyonce was named People magazine’s “Most Beautiful” woman for 2012.
> The singer told the magazine that being a new mother has made her feel
> more beautiful than ever and has given her a new sense of purpose."
>
> "Sofia Vergara, the Colombian bombshell of “Modern Family” fame, has
> often joked about her good looks, including bits from her recent stint
> hosting "Saturday Night Live."
> http://www.timesunion.com/entertainment/article/Beyonce-named-People-s-most-beautiful-woman-3509712.php
>
> Someday whites will be a minority and Southern whites will be a
> minority within a minority. So what is the solution?
><
Bite the bullet and learn to adjust ?
Face the fact that white people may not be the best that biology has to
offer ?
Grow up and see that evolution continues to improve or eliminate all
living things.


GLOBALIST

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Apr 25, 2012, 4:44:26 PM4/25/12
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> Grow up and see that evolution continues to improve or eliminate all
> living things.

=====================
If that is your idea of scientific thinking it's pretty scarey.

Gary

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Apr 25, 2012, 4:46:22 PM4/25/12
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgke...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Three thoughts.

>"Beyonce was named

What is a beyonce ? Sounds like some kind of stimulated bowel
movement ?

>People magazine’s "Most Beautiful" woman for 2012.

People magazine must live in a very small world.

>The singer told the magazine that being a new mother has made her feel
>more beautiful than ever and has given her a new sense of purpose."

Mother ? Good g-d ! You mean it reproduces ?


El Castor

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Apr 25, 2012, 10:33:57 PM4/25/12
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Actually the world's most beautiful woman is Jennifer Lopez, with Lucy
Liu coming in a close second. And truth be known, Beyonce is probably
about 90% Irish. There ain't anything like her to be found on the
Ivory Coast.

rumpelstiltskin

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Apr 25, 2012, 11:58:24 PM4/25/12
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For one thing, Caucasians are too hairy.

SNORDO

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Apr 26, 2012, 12:32:18 AM4/26/12
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"rumpelstiltskin" <rumpels...@x.com> wrote in message
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: On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:57:28 -0500, High Miles
:
:
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reallllyyyyyy ??


so, like which parts yall talkin bout ??


Gary

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Apr 26, 2012, 7:19:39 AM4/26/12
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 19:33:57 -0700, El Castor
<DrE...@justuschickens.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:46:22 -0400, Gary <n...@none.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgke...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>Three thoughts.
>>
>>>"Beyonce was named
>>
>>What is a beyonce ? Sounds like some kind of stimulated bowel
>>movement ?
>>
>>>People magazine’s "Most Beautiful" woman for 2012.
>>
>>People magazine must live in a very small world.
>>
>>>The singer told the magazine that being a new mother has made her feel
>>>more beautiful than ever and has given her a new sense of purpose."
>>
>>Mother ? Good g-d ! You mean it reproduces ?
>>
>Actually the world's most beautiful woman is Jennifer Lopez, with Lucy
>Liu coming in a close second.

I'm not familiar with either. I have not kept up with Hollywood's
beautiful women since Elizabeth Taylor played Cleopatra.

>And truth be known, Beyonce is probably
>about 90% Irish.

That's what I figured. I bet when Beyonce's
great-great-great-grandmother was raped by the slave, she never
thought it would make her g-g-g-grandchild desirable -- 200 hundred
years later.

>There ain't anything like her to be found on the Ivory Coast.

If you notice, 90% of the black people in TV commercials are not
completely black. Everybody loves blacks .... as long as they
don't LOOK black. Just like our beloved Obama. He's what could
be called -- "black light". Or ,... "light gray" :-)

rumpelstiltskin

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Apr 26, 2012, 10:03:21 AM4/26/12
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:32:18 -0400, "SNORDO" <SNOT...@Teranews.com>
wrote:
All over. I have chest hair, which I hate, especially
now that it's white. I naired it all off a couple of weeks
ago, as I've often done before. I also used a hair clipper
with an offsetting attachment to shorten the hairs on
my arms above the elbows. I'm eagerly awaiting the
invention of hair-on and hair-off. I don't need hair-on
much, though I do have a thin spot at the whorl of the
hair on my head, as do lots of guys of course. The
ancient Romans, who didn't like body hair any more
than I do, had the advantage of slaves to pluck out
the hairs, though it was probably a painful process.
I don't mind underarm hair and pubic hair so much,
though I did trim my underarm hair the same time I
trimmed the hair on my upper arms. We might be
better off without hair at all, once we got used to the
look.





mg

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Apr 26, 2012, 12:07:01 PM4/26/12
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On Apr 25, 2:46 pm, Gary <n...@none.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:18:03 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Three thoughts.
>
> >"Beyonce was named
>
> What is a beyonce ?    Sounds like some kind of stimulated bowel
> movement ?
>
> >People magazine’s "Most Beautiful" woman for 2012.
>
> People magazine must live in a very small world.
>
> >The singer told the magazine that being a new mother has made her feel
> >more beautiful than ever and has given her a new sense of purpose."
>
> Mother ?    Good g-d !    You mean it reproduces ?

It's just not fair; none of it is fair. Have you thought about the
possibility of saving the Southern culture by applying for help under
the endangered species act? :-)

Gary

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Apr 26, 2012, 5:30:51 PM4/26/12
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:07:01 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgke...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
The Southern culture I'd try to save is not the one that is found in a
lot of popular books. Especially the book -- "Gone With the Wind".

mg

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Apr 26, 2012, 11:12:53 PM4/26/12
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On Apr 26, 3:30 pm, Gary <n...@none.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:07:01 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com>
It's odd, I guess, but I never read that book or saw the movie. I did
make a list of classic movies a half-dozen years ago that I haven't
seen or have forgotten or only saw parts of, etc., that I intended to
watch now that I'm retired. So far, though, my batting average is zero
on that list.

I actually prefer other types of classic movies, like "Valdez is
Coming", for instance, starring Burt Lancaster who plays a Mexican who
I'll bet you would like.



rumpelstiltskin

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Apr 27, 2012, 9:27:00 PM4/27/12
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:12:53 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgke...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Apr 26, 3:30 pm, Gary <n...@none.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:07:01 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com>
<snip>


>> The Southern culture I'd try to save is not the one that is found in a
>> lot of popular books.    Especially the book -- "Gone With the Wind".
>
>It's odd, I guess, but I never read that book or saw the movie. I did
>make a list of classic movies a half-dozen years ago that I haven't
>seen or have forgotten or only saw parts of, etc., that I intended to
>watch now that I'm retired. So far, though, my batting average is zero
>on that list.


I've never seen it either, nor have I read the book. I never was
much of a fan of movies though, and over the last 20 years I've
probably see fewer than ten. I just looked up Jack Nicholson
in Wikipedia and checked out the list of his movies, and as I
thought, I've never seen any of them, including "Five Easy Pieces"
and "One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest".

Here's a list of "the 100 greatest movies of all time":
http://www.afi.com/100Years/movies10.aspx
The only ones I've seen on that list are:
Citizen Kane maybe: I'm not sure
The Wizard of Oz again, not sure
Star Wars again, not sure
Psycho
2001, A Space Odyssey
The Graduate
Annie Hall
The Bridge on the river Kwai
Dr. Strangelove
Midnight Cowboy
A Streetcar named Desire maybe only snippets
West Side Story maybe only snippets
The African Queen on shipboard, maybe age 11
Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf
Tootsie
A Clockwork Orange
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
The Last Picture Show on TV

That's between 12 and 18 of the 100, which is more
than I'd thought I'd have seen when I started going
through the list. My favourite on that list would be
"Dr. Strangelove", perhaps.



Even though I love Marilyn Monroe, I've never seen
any of her movies, just occasional snippets. I
always have trouble remembering whether it's i-y or
y-i in her first name.

Islander

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Apr 27, 2012, 10:24:02 PM4/27/12
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I'm surprised to say that I have seen them all! But, we watch a lot of
movies at home. I think that I may even have most of them on tape (and
need to get them transferred to DVD before there are no more tape players)!

My favorite is The African Queen which I first encountered as a book on
tape. Later, I saw the film version and was not disappointed with the
casting. Normally I prefer to watch the movie first because the
director in my head biases me when I read it first and then I'm
disappointed when the actor(s) don't match my mental image. In this
case, Humphrey Bogart and Katharine Hepburn were perfectly cast!

I'm surprised that Birdy is not on the list. That is my wife's favorite
movie. She also likes 84 Charing Cross Road and Shirley Valentine, both
chick flicks.

How about Driving Miss Daisy and On Golden Pond?

There are also some classic, but very dark, Vietnam era movies missing.
Platoon and Deer Hunter, for example. Also Good Morning Vietnam -
Robin Williams is awesome!

High Miles

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Apr 27, 2012, 10:53:12 PM4/27/12
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I'm with her on those two. Own 'em both and watch 'em at least once a
year.
>
> How about Driving Miss Daisy and On Golden Pond?
><
Also good 'old folks' films.
>
> There are also some classic, but very dark, Vietnam era movies
> missing. Platoon and Deer Hunter, for example. Also Good Morning
> Vietnam - Robin Williams is awesome!
><
For me, it would be Apocalypse Now. The Redux version even adds the
missing segments. Bought the DVD as soon as it was available.


SNORDO

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Apr 27, 2012, 11:20:00 PM4/27/12
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"High Miles" <2blue...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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: On 4/27/2012 9:24 PM, Islander wrote:
: > On 4/27/2012 6:27 PM, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
: >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:12:53 -0700 (PDT), mg<mgke...@yahoo.com>
: >> wrote:
: >>
:: >
: > There are also some classic, but very dark, Vietnam era movies
: > missing. Platoon and Deer Hunter, for example. Also Good Morning
: > Vietnam - Robin Williams is awesome!
: ><
: For me, it would be Apocalypse Now. The Redux version even adds the
: missing segments. Bought the DVD as soon as it was available.
:
:

they're all crap, only hamburger hill is halfway decent


Islander

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Apr 27, 2012, 11:23:34 PM4/27/12
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On 4/27/2012 7:53 PM, High Miles wrote:
> For me, it would be Apocalypse Now. The Redux version even adds the
> missing segments. Bought the DVD as soon as it was available.

How could I have forgotten that! One of Brando's best roles.

mg

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On Apr 27, 7:27 pm, rumpelstiltskin <rumpelstilts...@x.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:12:53 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com>
Some of my favorites from the classic list are 2001: A Space Odyssey,
The Graduate, E.T., High Noon, Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs, Jaws,
American Graffiti, Cabaret, and Network. Network is one of my all-time
favorites and definitely on of the greatest movie ever made

Some others great ones that aren't on the classics list are:

The Day The Earth Stood Still (Great 1950's Sci-Fi Movie)
War of the Roses (Should be at the top of the list of classics)
All Quit On The Western Front
Brigadoon
Seven Bridges For Seven Brothers
Forbidden Planet
Fail-Safe
Cat Ballou (Another really great movie)
Barbarella
Valdex Is Coming
Fiddler On The Roof
Young Frankenstein
Star Trek - The Motion Picture
Star Trek - (The one about the whales)
The Rose
All That Jazz
The Jazz Singer
Airplane (Maybe the funniest movie of all time?)
Fahrenheit 451
On The Beach
Good Night and Good Luck
Avatar
The Bedford Incident

rumpelstiltskin

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Apr 28, 2012, 7:57:22 AM4/28/12
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:23:34 -0700, Islander <nos...@priracy.net>
wrote:
I have heard of it, but not seen it.

rumpelstiltskin

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Apr 28, 2012, 7:57:22 AM4/28/12
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:24:02 -0700, Islander <nos...@priracy.net>
>On 4/27/2012 6:27 PM, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
<snip>



>> That's between 12 and 18 of the 100, which is more
>> than I'd thought I'd have seen when I started going
>> through the list. My favourite on that list would be
>> "Dr. Strangelove", perhaps.
>>
>
>I'm surprised to say that I have seen them all! But, we watch a lot of
>movies at home. I think that I may even have most of them on tape (and
>need to get them transferred to DVD before there are no more tape players)!
>
>My favorite is The African Queen which I first encountered as a book on
>tape. Later, I saw the film version and was not disappointed with the
>casting. Normally I prefer to watch the movie first because the
>director in my head biases me when I read it first and then I'm
>disappointed when the actor(s) don't match my mental image. In this
>case, Humphrey Bogart and Katharine Hepburn were perfectly cast!
>
>I'm surprised that Birdy is not on the list. That is my wife's favorite
>movie. She also likes 84 Charing Cross Road and Shirley Valentine, both
>chick flicks.


I've never heard of any of those, but that's not surprising,
since I've never heard of some others on the list. I avoid
chick flidks, though I did see "Beaches" which is maybe
the ultimate chick flick, at least of what I've seen.


>
>How about Driving Miss Daisy and On Golden Pond?

I've heard of them, but never seen them.

I'd have put "Bananas" on the list. There's not enough
suburban angst in it, I guess, just Woody Allen's habitual
urban angst.

And what about "When Nature Calls?" That was Jim
Carry's best movie (that I've seen) IMV. If there were
nothing else in the movie but his choice of meditation
ritual, while he was in the monastery trying to become
a monk, that alone would have made the movie worth
seeing.

>
>There are also some classic, but very dark, Vietnam era movies missing.
> Platoon and Deer Hunter, for example. Also Good Morning Vietnam -
>Robin Williams is awesome!

I've never seen any of those.

rumpelstiltskin

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Apr 28, 2012, 7:57:22 AM4/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 03:12:42 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgke...@yahoo.com>
<snip>



>Some of my favorites from the classic list are 2001: A Space Odyssey,
>The Graduate, E.T., High Noon, Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs, Jaws,
>American Graffiti, Cabaret, and Network. Network is one of my all-time
>favorites and definitely on of the greatest movie ever made
>
>Some others great ones that aren't on the classics list are:
>
>The Day The Earth Stood Still (Great 1950's Sci-Fi Movie)
>War of the Roses (Should be at the top of the list of classics)
>All Quit On The Western Front
>Brigadoon
>Seven Bridges For Seven Brothers
>Forbidden Planet
>Fail-Safe
>Cat Ballou (Another really great movie)
>Barbarella

I've seen that one, in a movie theatre. It was
not bad. Mostly I liked Hanoi Jane, though she
hadn't gotten that nickname yet, I think.


>Valdex Is Coming
>Fiddler On The Roof
>Young Frankenstein
>Star Trek - The Motion Picture
>Star Trek - (The one about the whales)

I've seen a lot of Star Trek TV shows (the
first series, with Kirk and Spock), but never a
movie. I didn't warm to the second series
with the bald guy.


>The Rose
>All That Jazz
>The Jazz Singer
>Airplane (Maybe the funniest movie of all time?)
>Fahrenheit 451

I saw that on TV. I read the book.

>On The Beach

I saw that on TV. I read the book - in high school,
as I recall.


>Good Night and Good Luck
>Avatar
>The Bedford Incident


I've not seen any of the others you mention,
though I've heard of some of them. "Airplane"
is one I might watch if it came on TV, though
I usually fall asleep if I'm watching TV for long
so it would be hard for me to catch the whole
thing.

Earl Evleth

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Apr 28, 2012, 9:28:37 AM4/28/12
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On 28/04/12 3:27, in article 1d9kp7hrhrc89ddo2...@4ax.com,
"rumpelstiltskin" <rumpels...@x.com> wrote:

> Even though I love Marilyn Monroe, I've never seen
> any of her movies, just occasional snippets.

I never thought of her as a great actress, she was hyped
as a sex image. Like Bridget Bardot. Jane Fonda was promoted
in the same manner but did perform well in some films.

Too handsome or too beautiful is a drawback.


Gary

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Apr 28, 2012, 11:03:18 AM4/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 15:28:37 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
wrote:
I think Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful female movie star.
She was never considered to be air-brained and frivolous like Marilyn.

I saw on TV this morning that they are making a movie about Liz. It
will star Lindsey Lohan. That will be a come-down for the
beautiful Liz.




Earl Evleth

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Apr 28, 2012, 11:36:47 AM4/28/12
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On 28/04/12 17:03, in article 6f1op7ditm4s6m03o...@4ax.com,
"Gary" <n...@none.com> wrote:

> I think Elizabeth Taylor was the most beautiful female movie star.
> She was never considered to be air-brained and frivolous like Marilyn.

Also my impression. Monroe was a very neurotic individual and did
not really like her sexy image, she did not want to be loved for
her body. Taylor was a world class narcissist. Taylor was married 7 times
(she came across as a "man-eater"). Monroe, was not like that and although
possibly not emotionally abused by her husbands, was too neurotic to live
with. I felt sorry for her but never had that feeling for Taylor.

When my wife (of 56 years) went to her 50th high school reunion there
where pictures of them in their high school period and also
in their 60s. American students of the 1950 were not overweight,
they all had similar physiques. All of them look rather ordinary,
both the girls and the boys. The main impression I had is that most
of them would not have problems finding spouses. I found that most
girls in the 17-25 year old range attractive. Nature made both sexes
that way, they were drawn to one another naturally. Even the less attractive
girls found function under the rules "ugly girls is kind". They can be
physically ugly but project an attractive sexuality and have no problem
finding a mate, procreating and producing still another generation.

I did not in fact have a sexual urging for movie stars. They certainly
were unavailable. I saved my lust for those girls about me.

The other day I was reading an article about human sexuality, in French
by a French woman. She happened to mention that the average 20 yr
old young man can have a full erection in 10 seconds! Girls of that
age require a more lengthy bringing to that state of sexual readiness.
Most males recognized that latter in life but at 20 do not. The wise
seducer knows to be patient, prepare the ground.

Whatever, at my current age of 80, I don't understand what all
the excitement was about. From this distance it looks very stupid.
But that was the way it was.




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Islander

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Apr 28, 2012, 12:33:54 PM4/28/12
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On 4/28/2012 4:57 AM, rumpelstiltskin wrote:
> I'd have put "Bananas" on the list. There's not enough
> suburban angst in it, I guess, just Woody Allen's habitual
> urban angst.
>
> And what about "When Nature Calls?" That was Jim
> Carry's best movie (that I've seen) IMV. If there were
> nothing else in the movie but his choice of meditation
> ritual, while he was in the monastery trying to become
> a monk, that alone would have made the movie worth
> seeing.

Just hearing that Woody Allen or Jim Carry are in a movie would be
sufficient for me to avoid it. Can't stand either of them, but for very
different reasons.

mg

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Apr 28, 2012, 12:32:01 PM4/28/12
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On Apr 28, 5:57 am, rumpelstiltskin <rumpelstilts...@x.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 03:12:42 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com>
> <snip>
>
> >Some of my favorites from the classic list are 2001: A Space Odyssey,
> >The Graduate, E.T., High Noon, Snow White And The Seven Dwarfs, Jaws,
> >American Graffiti, Cabaret, and Network. Network is one of my all-time
> >favorites and definitely on of the greatest movie ever made
>
> >Some others great ones that aren't on the classics list are:
>
> >The Day The Earth Stood Still (Great 1950's Sci-Fi Movie)
> >War of the Roses (Should be at the top of the list of classics)
> >All Quit On The Western Front
> >Brigadoon
> >Seven Bridges For Seven Brothers
> >Forbidden Planet
> >Fail-Safe
> >Cat Ballou (Another really great movie)
> >Barbarella
>
>      I've seen that one, in a movie theatre.  It was
> not bad.  Mostly I liked Hanoi Jane, though she
> hadn't gotten that nickname yet, I think.
>
> >Valdes Is Coming
I never did like Patrick Stewart (Capt. Picard) much either, but he
does sort of grow on you over time and I still enjoyed watching Star
Trek -- The Next Generation. I probably liked most of "Hanoi Jane's"
movies, including The China Syndrome.

If I had to pick two favorites, they would probably be "War of the
Roses" and "Network". War of the Roses is about a married couple's
undying, unqualified, unmitigated hate for each other and the lengths
they're willing to go to, to get even with each other. If anyone
thinks that love always prevails and things always turnout good in the
end, they need to watch this movie. Network is a 1976 movie about a
newsman who becomes the first newscaster to die for ratings. It's
really a pretty accurate prediction of the situation we have now with
the news media.
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rumpelstiltskin

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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 15:28:37 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
wrote:

When I get reincarnated, I'll be pushing old people
and women with babies out of the way, to try to get
to the front of the "good-looking" line, drawback or
not.

Marilyn was a mess inside, they say, and her life
story certainly leads one to believe that's true.

I had to google-images up Bardot because I
didn't remember what she looked like. Here she
is in two "then and now" photos"
http://tinyurl.com/86pls86
According to the article, she's fighting the killing
of black bears now. Whatever the unfortunate
necessity of that killing may or may not be, she
gets points for that in my book. If the killing is
treated as a "sport", I'd contribute to a fund to
provide rifles to the bears to give them a bit more
of a chance.








rumpelstiltskin

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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:33:54 -0700, Islander <nos...@priracy.net>
wrote:
It must be very different reasons, since they're about as
different as could be while both being in the "comedy"
category! Actually, perhaps Woody Allen's latest movies
(which I haven't seen) aren't "comedy" anymore, they're
"angst", but the early movies, before "Annie Hall" were
hilarious.





rumpelstiltskin

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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:36:47 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
<snip>


>Whatever, at my current age of 80, I don't understand what all
>the excitement was about. From this distance it looks very stupid.
>But that was the way it was.


It's needed to keep the world turning, although Lady
Bracknell noted that if the human race were to disappear,
that might not be a bad thing. Erasmus of Rotterdam,
who apparently did regard the continuation of mankind as
a good thing, entitled his masterpiece "In Praise of Folly".

rumpelstiltskin

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Apr 28, 2012, 5:12:24 PM4/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:32:01 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgke...@yahoo.com>
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>If I had to pick two favorites, they would probably be "War of the
>Roses" and "Network". War of the Roses is about a married couple's
>undying, unqualified, unmitigated hate for each other and the lengths
>they're willing to go to, to get even with each other. If anyone
>thinks that love always prevails and things always turnout good in the
>end, they need to watch this movie. Network is a 1976 movie about a
>newsman who becomes the first newscaster to die for ratings. It's
>really a pretty accurate prediction of the situation we have now with
>the news media.



Long, long, long ago, there was a PBS series called "Wars of
the Roses". Perhaps that was just a single show, and my
memory is getting it mixed up with "Norman Conquests" which
was another Britcom I liked that I saw about the same time,
and I think that was a series. I did like both of those.
I remember them together, I suppose, because their titles are
both puns on British history. (I only mention that because
some Yanks might never have heard of the Wars of the Roses.
Since I'm a Yorkshireman, I was part of those wars, or at least
my ancestors in the 15th Century were.

Islander

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Apr 28, 2012, 5:34:35 PM4/28/12
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On 4/28/2012 9:32 AM, mg wrote:
> If I had to pick two favorites, they would probably be "War of the
> Roses" and "Network". War of the Roses is about a married couple's
> undying, unqualified, unmitigated hate for each other and the lengths
> they're willing to go to, to get even with each other. If anyone
> thinks that love always prevails and things always turnout good in the
> end, they need to watch this movie.

My wife and I went to see War of the Roses with another couple who, we
didn't realize at the time, were in the last stages of trying to repair
a bad marriage. They both hated the movie, perhaps because they saw a
mirror of their own lives. Their marriage did not survive.

Personally, I thought that the movie portrayed two people who were so
self centered that there was no room for another person in their lives.
Tragic that they could only destroy each other.


rumpelstiltskin

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Apr 28, 2012, 10:34:15 PM4/28/12
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On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:12:24 -0700, rumpelstiltskin
<rumpels...@x.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 15:28:37 +0200, Earl Evleth <evl...@wanadoo.fr>
>wrote:
>
>>On 28/04/12 3:27, in article 1d9kp7hrhrc89ddo2...@4ax.com,
>>"rumpelstiltskin" <rumpels...@x.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Even though I love Marilyn Monroe, I've never seen
>>> any of her movies, just occasional snippets.
>>
>>I never thought of her as a great actress, she was hyped
>>as a sex image. Like Bridget Bardot. Jane Fonda was promoted
>>in the same manner but did perform well in some films.
>>
>>Too handsome or too beautiful is a drawback.
>>
>
>
> When I get reincarnated, I'll be pushing old people
>and women with babies out of the way, to try to get
>to the front of the "good-looking" line, drawback or
>not.
>
> Marilyn was a mess inside, they say, and her life
>story certainly leads one to believe that's true.



Speak of the angel, there's a special on Marilyn on
PBS this evening at 9:40. I'm going to try to remember
to watch it, though I often space out on watching TV
shows. I could of course get a recording device and
watch it at my leisure, as I had before TV went digital,
but I feel some resistance at making life easy for the
squawk box these days, who's quite intrusive enough
already, without any help.




mg

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Apr 28, 2012, 11:24:43 PM4/28/12
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I had someone once tell me about a married couple she knew. She said
the wife was claiming mental cruelty because the husband wouldn't do
the things she told him to do. It makes you wonder if some people
think they are buying an indentured servant or slave when they get
married.

mg

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Apr 28, 2012, 11:37:01 PM4/28/12
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On Apr 28, 3:12 pm, rumpelstiltskin <rumpelstilts...@x.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:32:01 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com>
> <snip>
>
> >If I had to pick two favorites, they would probably be "War of the
> >Roses" and "Network". War of the Roses is about a married couple's
> >undying, unqualified, unmitigated hate for each other and the lengths
> >they're willing to go to, to get even with each other. If anyone
> >thinks that love always prevails and things always turnout good in the
> >end, they need to watch this movie. Network is a 1976 movie about a
> >newsman who becomes the first newscaster to die for ratings. It's
> >really a pretty accurate prediction of the situation we have now with
> >the news media.
>
>    Long, long, long ago, there was a PBS series called "Wars of
> the Roses".  Perhaps that was just a single show, and my
> memory is getting it mixed up with "Norman Conquests" which
> was another Britcom I liked that I saw about the same time,
> and I think that was a series.  I did like both of those.
> I remember them together, I suppose, because their titles are
> both puns on British history.  (I only mention that because
> some Yanks might never have heard of the Wars of the Roses.
> Since I'm a Yorkshireman, I was part of those wars, or at least
> my ancestors in the 15th Century were.
>
I wouldn't be at all surprised if 90% of American audiences were
unaware of the obvious allusion to the battles between the Houses of
York and Lancaster. Most of them probably just saw it as a movie about
a married couple named Mr. and Mrs. Oliver and Barbara Rose. In fact,
I wouldn't be at all surprised if most people simply thought the name
was chosen as some sort of indirect reference to "Wine and Roses", for
instance.
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mg

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Apr 29, 2012, 12:04:35 PM4/29/12
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On Apr 29, 7:30 am, Emily <Em...@nospam.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:24:43 -0700 (PDT), mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I had someone once tell me about a married couple she knew. She said
> >the wife was claiming mental cruelty because the husband wouldn't do
> >the things she told him to do. It makes you wonder if some people
> >think they are buying an indentured servant or slave when they get
> >married.
>
> A woman I worked with long ago kept talking about wanting to get
> married, always in terms on how that man would make her happy.  She
> hadn't found a man to marry yet, but it was obvious that when she did
> it wasn't going to work out well.  She found one later and sure
> enough, it didn't work out well at all.

The recipe for a successful marriage is two people who are already
happy getting married. The recipe for a failed marriage is an unhappy
person who gets married in order to try to solve their problems.

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