Cain -- the next GOP VP candidate
Gary
happen.
None of my old Republican friends would want Cain as President. But
by running as VP, his presence would do three things. First it
would cut into Obama's almost solid black support. Second it would
make the GOP appear to be racially (and minority) tolerant. Third,
Cain could be used to attack Obama in a way no white person could do
without the Democrats playing the "race card".
Romney or Perry could stay "above the fray" -- and with the issues --
while letting Cain attack Obama personally. Obama would have to
answer back -- or look like a total fool.
There are several states (GA is one) where you can vote in either
primary you wish to. My bet it many blacks will be encouraged to
cross over and vote in the Republican primary for Cain.
Jim_Higgins
Cain should be at the top of the ticket.
An independent old cuss
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unleashes his jobs program. There will be a firestorm from the EPA
greenies but Exxon/Mobil, Shell and all the big drilling companies
will start pouring it on. I doubt any of you remember a bumbling,
fumbling candidate named George W. Bush before Dick Cheney put out the
word to the energy establishment. And I doubt any of you remember a
bumbling, fumbling candidate named Kay Bailey Hutchison before her big
oil buddies got on board.
Unless I'm missing something, it's going to be Deja Veu all over
again.
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Randian born, Randian raised
and Randian to the core!
.
mg
Rather than trying to get Southern Baptists to vote for a Mormon and a
black guy with a negro accent, you might as well keep Obama. He's a
Republican in disguise and if you keep him in office, you can still
blame him for everything that's gone wrong and put him in funny monkey
cartoons, claim he pals around with terrorists, doesn't have a valid
birth certificate, and has a phony Social Security card.
Gary
>On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:52:31 -0400, Gary <n...@none.com> wrote:
>
>>IMO, a Romney/Cain or Perry/Cain is just about what is going to
>>happen.
>>
>>None of my old Republican friends would want Cain as President. But
>>by running as VP, his presence would do three things. First it
>>would cut into Obama's almost solid black support. Second it would
>>make the GOP appear to be racially (and minority) tolerant. Third,
>>Cain could be used to attack Obama in a way no white person could do
>>without the Democrats playing the "race card".
>>
>>Romney or Perry could stay "above the fray" -- and with the issues --
>>while letting Cain attack Obama personally. Obama would have to
>>answer back -- or look like a total fool.
>>
>>There are several states (GA is one) where you can vote in either
>>primary you wish to. My bet it many blacks will be encouraged to
>>cross over and vote in the Republican primary for Cain.
>
>Rather than trying to get Southern Baptists to vote for a Mormon and a
>black guy with a negro accent, you might as well keep Obama.
Nah, we rather have a real African American. Just think, a black
guy from GA will be the first AA elected to VP. From there, maybe
someday (long time from now) he will be elected as the first AA
president. Ain't life great ?
>He's a
>Republican in disguise and if you keep him in office,
He's "something" in disguise, but I haven't figured what, yet.
>you can still
>blame him for everything that's gone wrong and put him in funny monkey
>cartoons, claim he pals around with terrorists,
I don't think Obama had but one close friend who was a terrorist. He
was the guy who launched his political career.
>doesn't have a valid
>birth certificate,
I'm sure Barry has a valid certificate. I'm just not sure what
country issued it.
>and has a phony Social Security card.
I doubt if he even has one.
Gary
Only if the top of the ticket reads: Cain and Keeper.
Gary
I agree. Things are looking up. The Democrats act nuttier every day.
Islander
Republican candidate, even if he is black. The Republicans made that
mistaken assumption when they put Michael Steele in charge of the
Republican party. Their strategy was pretty clear to everyone and it is
unlikely that Michael Steele bought them any black votes.
What you have missed is that the black population tends to be religious.
Would they vote for a Mormon? Not likely, even if Cain is the VP
candidate.
The Republican strategy seems to me to be pretty clear. Deny the vote
to as many minority voters as possible.
Gary
wrote:
>On 10/12/2011 3:52 PM, Gary wrote:
>> IMO, a Romney/Cain or Perry/Cain is just about what is going to
>> happen.
>>
>> None of my old Republican friends would want Cain as President. But
>> by running as VP, his presence would do three things. First it
>> would cut into Obama's almost solid black support. Second it would
>> make the GOP appear to be racially (and minority) tolerant. Third,
>> Cain could be used to attack Obama in a way no white person could do
>> without the Democrats playing the "race card".
>>
>> Romney or Perry could stay "above the fray" -- and with the issues --
>> while letting Cain attack Obama personally. Obama would have to
>> answer back -- or look like a total fool.
>>
>> There are several states (GA is one) where you can vote in either
>> primary you wish to. My bet it many blacks will be encouraged to
>> cross over and vote in the Republican primary for Cain.
>>
>>
>You have made a very big assumption that blacks will vote for a
>Republican candidate, even if he is black.
I think it's possible. But if they don't vote GOP -- in large
numbers --- it's no big deal. That's not the primary reason to
run Cain as VP.
>The Republicans made that
>mistaken assumption when they put Michael Steele in charge of the
>Republican party. Their strategy was pretty clear to everyone and it is
>unlikely that Michael Steele bought them any black votes.
That was not only brazen -- it was stupid. And as you say,
everybody recognized Steele as a "house person". But Cain has
assets which Steele did not. Cain can attack Obama.
>What you have missed is that the black population tends to be religious.
> Would they vote for a Mormon? Not likely, even if Cain is the VP
>candidate.
Let's agee they go to church. They are not that devout. I really
think a large percent will go for Cain. Majority ? Maybe ....
maybe not.
>The Republican strategy seems to me to be pretty clear. Deny the vote
>to as many minority voters as possible.
Of course. The Republicans haven't done well with minorities since
Reconstruction ended.
We could well see an interesting contest next November. I think
Cain will have a big part in it. But not as president.
Thumper
<gordi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ha, ha, ha. He's a joke.
Thumper
Earl Evleth
4PidnY9kJ5SGpwvT...@rockisland.com, "Islander"
<nos...@priracy.net> wrote:
> You have made a very big assumption that blacks will vote for a
> Republican candidate, even if he is black. The Republicans made that
> mistaken assumption when they put Michael Steele in charge of the
> Republican party. Their strategy was pretty clear to everyone and it is
> unlikely that Michael Steele bought them any black votes.
In the back of the Black mind is always a suspicion of a fellow
Black getting too close to the White community. The history
of American slavery divided plantation Blacks into two groups,
the house slaves and the field slaves. The former had feelings
to loyalty to their White masters, the field slave, much less so
frankly hostile to their masters.
As we also know being a Uncle Tom is a problem.
I think Obama successfully navigated these dangerous waters
but I don't know about Cain. My intuition says he is another
political bubble. What is certain is the promotion of
Cain to any important political post will be viewed again
by Europeans as evidence that Americans are crazy.
Gary
wrote:
Explained in Plantation metaphors, the difference between Steele,
Cain and Obama is this. Steele was Masters yard boy. Cain wants
Master to promote him to be the plantations overseer. Obama is
Master's mulatto pet who was raised in the Big House.
Gary
>On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:07:45 -0400, Thumper <jayl...@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>Surely you don't think that would keep the Republicans from nominating
>him, do you? Remember George W. Bush? Sarah Palin?
Or Joe Biden ? John Edwards ? Joe Lieberman ? No matter the
party, there's not a lot of difference in the quality of the
candidate.
Akneigh Wombuster
Let's review ...
Cain's trying to sell his booga-booga 9-9-9 tax plan, Romney's trying
to hide his booga-booga Mormonism, Perry's cajoling everybody into
praying for divine meteorological intervention, and Quackmann's
foisting history and medical lectures on any sap who'll buy 'em.
Yeah.
From here, for our president, it looks like ...
FOUR
MORE
YEARS!
Jerry Okamura
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An independent old cuss
The democrat strategy is to get as many people as possible to vote.
Whether they are American citizens or not.
Thumper
>On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:07:45 -0400, Thumper <jayl...@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>Surely you don't think that would keep the Republicans from nominating
>him, do you? Remember George W. Bush? Sarah Palin?
Maybe they have dumbed down America enough that their math skills are
too low to see that his 999 plan will screw them royally.
This is a guy that says that it's their fault that they are out of a
job and they aren't rich.
Thumper
Rita
wrote:
Nothing new about that. Our right wing posters here in soc.retirement
say that often. So we should not be surprised that a GOP presidential
hopeful plays to people like them. Cain is more outspoken than most
GOP candidates in blaming the poor for their plight, but it is
implicit with the others as well. When Romney boasts "I am unemployed
too" it is a slap in the face and shows incredible insensitivity.
An independent old cuss
Well, it is much easier for losers to blame anyone but themselves.
Earl Evleth
"An independent old cuss" <cu...@exitin.org> wrote:
>> Maybe they have dumbed down America enough that their math skills
>> are
>> too low to see that his 999 plan will screw them royally.
>>
>> This is a guy that says that it's their fault that they are out of a
>> job and they aren't rich.
>> Thumper
>
> Well, it is much easier for losers to blame anyone but themselves.
What is curious is that so-called "conservatives" should propose
radical change in whatever, except excessive government spending.
Bush 43 changes things a a bit but going the excessive spending
and increase debt route, certainly a radical change.
The Republicans are interested mainly in power for power's sake.
So the issues they stress are in hypocritical contradiction with recent
policies when the conservatives were in power.
Of course the Tea Party recognizes that and is trying to reestablish
the political shape of the Republicans. The problem with this
new global world we live in, with corporation fusion generating
bigger and bigger economic entities is that to resist their
taking complete effective control of things, government also
has to be equally as powerful. So the Tea Party lives in a world
which is not.
Islander
> The democrat strategy is to get as many people as possible to vote.
> Whether they are American citizens or not.
mg
Obama has done since he became President, in the way, of policies,
etc., or even ideology. Do you have any comments in that regard?
Alias
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An independent old cuss
"Islander" <nos...@priracy.net> wrote in message
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DEMOCRATS!
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>
> "Islander" <nos...@priracy.net> wrote in message
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>> On 10/13/2011 10:16 AM, An independent old cuss wrote:
>>> The democrat strategy is to get as many people as possible to vote.
>>> Whether they are American citizens or not.
>>
>> You have no evidence to support that claim.
>
> Wanna bet? I've actually served as an election judge for the DEMOCRATS!
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Islander
>
> "Islander" <nos...@priracy.net> wrote in message
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>> On 10/13/2011 10:16 AM, An independent old cuss wrote:
>>> The democrat strategy is to get as many people as possible to vote.
>>> Whether they are American citizens or not.
>>
>> You have no evidence to support that claim.
>
> Wanna bet? I've actually served as an election judge for the DEMOCRATS!
Gary
give him my moral support. I really wanted to see us get a National
Healthcare system. I thought he really had a good chance. He had
both a Democrat House and Senate. But he blew it.
I know ! I know ! It was the evil old Republicans who prevented it.
If Poor Barry had only had another 50 or 60 Democrat senators -- he'd
have won. Yeah, yeah. And if frogs had wings ......
Can you imagine a good leader allowing one or two scoundrels to
sidetrack his agenda ? What if one of two Republican had stood
in the way of LBJ passing the Civil Rights act of 1964 ?
Lyndon would have had called them into his office and given them a
choice of being mugged, bribed or shot. Obama couldn't handle it.
Which is why I lost all use for him.
Them as can ... are leaders. Them as can't ... are community
organizers.
mg
option and that's why we didn't get one:
"Leaderless: Senate Pushes For Public Option Without Obama's Support
First Posted: 10-24-09 10:00 PM
President Barack Obama is actively discouraging Senate Democrats in
their effort to include a public insurance option with a state opt-out
clause as part of health care reform. In its place, say multiple
Democratic sources, Obama has indicated a preference for an
alternative policy, favored by the insurance industry, which would see
a public plan "triggered" into effect in the future by a failure of
the industry to meet certain benchmarks.
The administration retreat runs counter to the letter and the spirit
of Obama's presidential campaign. The man who ran on the "Audacity of
Hope" has now taken a more conservative stand than Senate Majority
Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), leaving progressives with a mix of
confusion and outrage. . . ."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/24/leaderless-senate-pushes_n_332844.html
An independent old cuss
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the life of a rational being and the only
moral politico-economic system in history."
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An independent old cuss
testified before the U.S. Committee on House Administration that the
extent of illegal voting by foreign citizens in Harris County was
impossible to determine but "that it has and will continue to occur."
Twenty-two percent of county residents, he explained, were born
outside of the United States, and more than 500,000 were non-citizens.
Bettencourt noted that he cancelled the registration of a Brazilian
citizen in 1996 after she acknowledged on a jury summons that she was
not a U.S. citizen. Despite that cancellation, how ever, "She then
reapplied in 1997, again claiming to be a U.S. citizen, and was again
given a voter card, which was again cancelled. Records show she was
able to vote at least four times in general and primary elections."
In 2005, Bettencourt's office turned up at least 35 cases in which
foreign nationals applied for or received voter cards, and he pointed
out that Harris County regularly had "elections decided by one, two,
or just a handful of votes." In fact, a Norwegian citizen was
discovered to have voted in a state legislative race in Harris County
that was decided by only 33 votes. Nor is this problem unique to
Harris County. Recent reports indicate that hundreds of illegal aliens
registered to vote in Bexar County, Texas, and that at least 41 of
them have voted, some several times, in a dozen local, state, and
federal elections.
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Islander
> In 2006, Paul Bettencourt, Voter Registrar for Harris County, Texas,
> testified before the U.S. Committee on House Administration that the
> extent of illegal voting by foreign citizens in Harris County was
> impossible to determine but "that it has and will continue to occur."
> Twenty-two percent of county residents, he explained, were born outside
> of the United States, and more than 500,000 were non-citizens.
> Bettencourt noted that he cancelled the registration of a Brazilian
> citizen in 1996 after she acknowledged on a jury summons that she was
> not a U.S. citizen. Despite that cancellation, how ever, "She then
> reapplied in 1997, again claiming to be a U.S. citizen, and was again
> given a voter card, which was again cancelled. Records show she was able
> to vote at least four times in general and primary elections."
> In 2005, Bettencourt's office turned up at least 35 cases in which
> foreign nationals applied for or received voter cards, and he pointed
> out that Harris County regularly had "elections decided by one, two, or
> just a handful of votes." In fact, a Norwegian citizen was discovered to
> have voted in a state legislative race in Harris County that was decided
> by only 33 votes. Nor is this problem unique to Harris County. Recent
> reports indicate that hundreds of illegal aliens registered to vote in
> Bexar County, Texas, and that at least 41 of them have voted, some
> several times, in a dozen local, state, and federal elections.
being sued for his handling of about 7,000 provisional ballots cast in
2008 where he illegally rejected voter registration applications.
What is left out in your report is any indication of how many illegal
votes were actually cast and counted in an election. It is typical
Republican propaganda peddling fear of voter fraud in order to implement
policies that inhibit registration and voting by minorities.
Hell, this guy is so unreliable that he quit his job as tax assessor
only one month after being elected. Oh, he just filed as a candidate
for mayor of Houston. Whoops, no, changed his mind and quit again.
An independent old cuss
votes were cast. I know, it was in my precinct. What more evidence do
you need? How about the court transcript. I'll get the link for you
and you can get for a mere 8 cents per page. But I doubt you will
because you'd rather go after the messenger than the message. You've
proven that time and time again.
Islander
> But he didn't lie under oath and it was proven that some 30 illegal
> votes were cast. I know, it was in my precinct. What more evidence do
> you need? How about the court transcript. I'll get the link for you and
> you can get for a mere 8 cents per page. But I doubt you will because
> you'd rather go after the messenger than the message. You've proven that
> time and time again.
reported in the news? You might want to look up the definition of ad
hominem.
Otherwise, you made the assertion of voter fraud, so the burden of proof
is on you. Why would I spend good money to verify your argument?
Islander
10, a total of 72 days. Nothing else was accomplished during that time.
The myth of LBJ's influence in the Senate doesn't stand the test of
what actually happened. In the end, it was Dirksen, Kuchel, Humphrey
and Mansfield who carried the day.
Gary
wrote:
However, I do attribute the passage to LBJ's leadership. I can't
help but think he was instrumental in the attitude of Dirksen and the
others. I think I've heard that most of Johnson's power was exerted
behind the scenes.
What ever -- Obama showed no signs of leadership when he had an
opportunity to produce historic legislation.
Will Janoschka
employes. If you want a "leader" hire Vladmir Putin! -will-
An independent old cuss
>> But he didn't lie under oath and it was proven that some 30 illegal
>> votes were cast. I know, it was in my precinct. What more evidence
>> do
>> you need? How about the court transcript. I'll get the link for you
>> and
>> you can get for a mere 8 cents per page. But I doubt you will
>> because
>> you'd rather go after the messenger than the message. You've proven
>> that
>> time and time again.
>
> Am I attacking you, the messenger,
voters in Harris County, Texas. And, every one of them voted D E M O C
R A T! And, Susan Sasserman, the deputy county chair RECRUITED the
illegal voters and paid a hefty fine. So, your claim that republicans
want to deny as many people their vote brought my claim that democrats
want to allow as many people to vote regardless of whether they are
citizens are not is every bit, shown by court evidence by the way, as
your unsupported claim.
Islander
>
> "Islander" <nos...@priracy.net> wrote in message
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>> On 10/15/2011 11:19 AM, An independent old cuss wrote:
>>> But he didn't lie under oath and it was proven that some 30 illegal
>>> votes were cast. I know, it was in my precinct. What more evidence do
>>> you need? How about the court transcript. I'll get the link for you and
>>> you can get for a mere 8 cents per page. But I doubt you will because
>>> you'd rather go after the messenger than the message. You've proven that
>>> time and time again.
>>
>> reported in the news? You might want to look up the definition of ad
>> hominem.
>>
>> Otherwise, you made the assertion of voter fraud, so the burden of proof
>> is on you. Why would I spend good money to verify your argument?
>
> voters in Harris County, Texas. And, every one of them voted D E M O C R
> A T! And, Susan Sasserman, the deputy county chair RECRUITED the illegal
> voters and paid a hefty fine. So, your claim that republicans want to
> deny as many people their vote brought my claim that democrats want to
> allow as many people to vote regardless of whether they are citizens are
> not is every bit, shown by court evidence by the way, as your
> unsupported claim.
articles about how Bettencourt attempted to deny thousands of Harris
county residents the right to vote. I can find lots of articles about
the suits against Bettencourt and I can find the settlement agreement
that basically required the registrar's office to clean up their act and
stop engaging in practices that denied voters their right to vote. I
can find lots of articles about the new registrar, Leo Vasquez, who
seems to be intent on continuing the practices and who is now also being
sued for violating the 2008 agreement. It looks like you have got some
pretty nasty politics going on down there! But, not a single news
article about Susan Sasserman.
Things evidently came to a head in the 2010 election where King Street
Patriots, a Tea Party group, turned out approximately 1,000 poll
watchers to intimidate voters in predominantly minority neighborhoods.
I guess that the Republicans cannot win elections honestly, so they are
resorting to these kind of tactics. Fortunately, there is the Voting
Rights Act which forbids discrimination in voting. Looks like your
sleazy lawyer, Kelly Shackelford, will get a chance to appear in federal
court.
An independent old cuss
Texas: Former SEIU Member Registers 23,207 Fraudulent Voters
September 27, 2010 By Warner Todd Huston -By Warner Todd Huston
Former Service Employees International Union (SEIU) member Steve
Caddle of Houston, Texas has been caught registering 23,207 fake
voters in Harris County alone due to the hard detective work of
Catherine Engelbrecht and her "True the Vote" project.
This is one of the best examples of what good citizen activism
inspired by Tea Party principles can do for their community.
Catherine Engelbrecht was sick and tired of the vote fraud perpetrated
by unions and Democrats and set out to expose it herself. Along with
many friends who donated their time, computers, and sweat, they've
uncovered thousands upon thousands of illegal Democrat "voters" in
Texas.
"The integrity of the voting rolls in Harris County, Texas, appears to
be under an organized and systematic attack by the group operating
under the name Houston Votes," the Harris voter registrar, Leo
Vasquez, charged as he passed on the documentation to the district
attorney. A spokesman for the DA's office declined to discuss the
case. And a spokesman for Vasquez said that the DA has asked them to
refrain from commenting on the case.
The union thug behind this particular criminal enterprise admitted
only that there "had been mistakes made." Yeah, like not worrying
about icebergs was just a "mistake" made by the Titanic's crew! Of the
25,000 voter registrations turned in by Caddle only about 1,793 were
legal.
"Vacant lots had several voters registered on them. An eight-bed
halfway house had more than 40 voters registered at its address,"
Engelbrecht said. "We then decided to look at who was registering the
voters."
..The other registrations included one of a woman who registered six
times in the same day; registrations of non-citizens; so many
applications from one Houston Voters collector in one day that it was
deemed to be beyond human capability; and 1,597 registrations that
named the same person multiple times, often with different signatures.
Does anyone have any doubt that this sort of crime has been
perpetrated by Democrats the nation over? How many millions of fake,
dead, nonexistent, and/or fraudulent voters have Democrats foisted
upon the voter rolls in every corner of the nation?
Well, due to the excellent work of Catherine Engelbrecht we see
exposed at least some of the criminal behavior of Texas Democrats and
Union thugs.
So what was the outcome of Engelbrecht's hard work? All of Harris
County's voting machines were torched in a three-alarm fire by person
or persons unknown. Bet those shadowy firebugs hold SEIU membership
cards, too!
Great work, Catherine. Now let's see this replicated in every city in
the nation.
** Story updated to reflect new information that Steve Caddle is not
currently working for the SEIU.
Some of the high powered people involved had their case files sealed.
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HARRIS COUNTY VOTER REGISTRATION PROCESS OVERWHELMED WITH ACORN-LIKE
FRAUD TACTICS
John G. Winder, The Cypress Times
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Falsified government documents and suborning of perjury among charges
made by Leo Vasquez, Assessor-Collector & Voter Registrar for Harris
County.
HOUSTON - Much is at stake in the upcoming November election. Every
seat in the United States House of Representatives is in play and the
outcomes of these races will determine who will lead the Congress of
the United States beginning in 2011. Throughout Harris County
important races for state reps, the state Senate and judgeships are on
the line.
Your future, your security, your taxes, your job or an opportunity for
employment, and the security of your rights will be affected for the
good or the bad based on the outcome of the November election.
In Texas politics we're used to hard-fought races, even some good
old-fashioned political mudslinging and backbiting, but we Texans want
our elections to be fair and free from all of the criminal shenanigans
now so closely associated with Florida and Chicago politics.
Unfortunately, it appears as if Chicago-style thuggery has now made
its way into our political process.
Leo Vaquez, Harris County Assessor-Collector and Voter Registrar,
released an August 24, 2010 a report detailing a stunning array of
widespread, highly organized voter fraud that, unless stopped
immediately, will almost certainly affect the outcome of Harris County
races and possibly negate your legal vote.
Mr. Vasquez says, "Unfortunately, it is my duty to share with you
today that the integrity of the Voter Roll in Harris County, Texas
registration machine of the 'Texans Together Education Fund.' Houston
Votes and Texans Together have effectively emerged as our area's new
ACORN organization."
Vasquez released a 72 page PowerPoint document with incredible detail
of the fraud, phony signatures, and even voter registration
applications filled out by people who checked the box "Non-Citizen".
The result is that the voter registration office has been flooded with
bogus or duplicate registration forms that have tied up staff and cost
taxpayers thousands of dollars in wasted time.
Mr. Vasquez's investigation has found nearly 1,600 cases of multiple
applications from the same voter, over 1,000 applications from
citizens already registered as well as over 300 from people too young
to vote.
Houston Votes, which pays staff to collect voter registrations from
citizens has turned in 25,640 registrations generating 7,193 new
registered voters and resulting in 3,531 applications which were
rejected because either Texas Drivers License numbers and/or Social
Security numbers did not match. Houston Votes has also generated 129
felon rejection of applications and submitted 1,133 applications where
the No ID box was checked and turned in 1,323 applications after the 5
day statutory deadline.
It would be easy to assume that Houston Votes has simply hired
over-zealous or blatantly incompetent people to act as "deputies" in
securing these voter registration applications, but Vasquez's
investigation has uncovered far more.
Part of the issue with Houston Votes is that they operate using a
"pay-per-packet" policy. Mr. Vasquez explains, "A payment per piece
set up risks incentivizing workers for focus on quantity with a
disregard of quality. If I were funding Houston Votes and Texans
Together, I would be quite upset that instead of paying for six new
registrations I was instead paying for the same person being
registered six times. Or, worse yet, an already-registered voter being
re-registered multiple times."
The investigation by Mr. Vasquez has also uncovered complaints from
voters in Harris County who report that Houston Votes personnel have
lied to them in order to coerce voters to fill out new voter
applications. Those lies include statements that the tax office
computer has suffered a computer malfunction requiring voters to
re-register, that voters will be required to carry a new plastic
voting card in order to vote and that the card will only be issued if
the voter re-registers. Lastly, voters have been told that if they do
not re-register they will be removed from the voter registration
rolls. All of these are false statements, says Mr. Vasquez.
Mr. Vasquez stresses that the voter registration rolls are intact and
operating properly, and wants to remind voters that if they have
already registered there is no need to register again. If you have
registered again after being persuaded to do so by anyone and want to
know your status you can visit www.hcvoter.net or call (713) 368-2200.
Mr. Vasquez also notes that many volunteer organizations do a very
good job of helping to register voters, "We welcome and encourage the
efforts of all interested citizens and organizations who, within the
boundaries of the law, work to help register voters." The League of
Women Voters works to register voters and their registrations are 99%
accurate.
"In trying to find a positive out of this, it is my sincere hope that
this episode will bring more attention to the general public about the
importance of voter registration. Hopefully this will also spur
legislation on both the Federal and State levels to put more teeth
into election fraud penalties. Under the Texas Election Code most of
these violations are only misdemeanors, albeit hundreds of
misdemeanors at a time. Submitting forged signatures to a governmental
entity may be a more serious crime," says Vasquez.
Houston Votes is now refuting all charges made by Mr. Vasquez and has
promised to answer the charges in a press conference to be held
tomorrow morning at 10:30 am.
Houston Votes says, "Houston Votes will answer and refute the reckless
allegations made by Harris County Tax Assessor-Collector and Voter
Registrar, Leo Vasquez, on Tuesday, August 24.
"Leo Vasquez made reckless and false allegations against Houston
Votes, the organization, in an apparently coordinated, partisan effort
to suppress voter registration and to intimidate citizens into not
voting.
"Sadly, this type of shameful tactic has worked all too well in the
past. Houston Votes is committed to non-partisan voter registration
and helping register the over 600,000 citizens eligible to vote who
are not even registered."
ABOUT HOUSTON VOTES:
Houston Votes describes itself as follows, "Houston Votes, a project
of Texans Together, is a nonpartisan voter registration drive in
Harris County. Its goal is to register 100,000 new voters by the
October 4th deadline and turn out 50,000 new voters on election day."
ABOUT TEXANS TOGETHER:
The members of the Board of Directors for Texans Together are:
James Aldrete (Austin) is president of Message Audience Presentation,
a public relations and political communications company.
Ambassador Christopher Ashby (Houston) has had a distinguished career
in international banking, working in Europe and Asia as well as in the
United States. In 1997, Mr. Ashby was appointed Ambassador to Uruguay
by President Clinton where he served until 2001.
Ann De Llano (Austin) is the founder and principal of Capital City
Solutions, a public interest advocacy firm. She recently created and
implemented an innovative, award-winning GOTV effort aimed at young
minorities using hip-hop music and video in Harris County.
John Donisi (Austin) is an attorney with the firm of Drenner & Golden
Stuart Wolff. He has served as Special Assistant to Texas Governor Ann
W. Richards and General Counsel to the Texas Senate's Jurisprudence
Committee.
Cris Feldman (Houston) practices civil litigation in Houston with
Rusty Hardin & Associates. He has won many awards for leading the
successful civil lawsuit against Tom Delay's TRMPAC that exposed
corporate corruption in Texas.
Fred Lewis (Austin) is the founder and President of Texans Together
Education Fund, Inc. He has worked as a public interest attorney,
non-profit leader, and community organizer for years.
Rita Lucido (Houston) practices family law and is a named partner in
Cothrun and Lucido. She has been involved in numerous civic
activities, including as a board member of Planned Parenthood of
Houston, Jane's Due Process, DiverseWorks, and Texas Women Lawyers.
Keir Murray (Houston) is the founder and principal of KLM consulting,
a political, public affairs, public opinion and communications
consulting firm. He has has served as a consultant to the Mayor of
Houston, Houston Community College, Houston Metro, and Sheriff Adrian
Garcia.
Andres Pereira (Houston) is an attorney who practices mass tort
litigation and is involved in numerous civic organizations.
Keith Wade (Houston) has been involved in community and political
organizing for 30 years in Houston and the African-American community,
including running three congressional offices.
Some notable members of the Texans Together Education Fund Advisory
Board include:
Jay Aiyer, a former member of the Houston Community College governing
board, pled guilty in June of 2007 to a misdemeanor charge of
tampering with a governmental record and did not seek re-election
thereafter.
Robbie Ausley, an Austin resident and board member of Planned
Parenthood, who has raised millions of dollars for the pro-abortion
organization.
Sissy Farenthold, longtime liberal Democrat and former Texas house
member.
Bruce Elfant, a Travis County constable.
Sherry Greenberg, a former Texas State rep and now a faculty member at
the LBJ School of Public Affairs.
Kristi Thibaut, current democrat State Rep for District 133 in
Houston.
Islander
> Some of the high powered people involved had their case files sealed.
your claims of Susan Sasserman paying a hefty fine?
Didn't think you could back it up!
Islander
> "Islander" <nos...@priracy.net> wrote in message
> claim. Here is the story regarding what Sasserman was involved in. You
> won't find her name anywhere because she is married to a high powered
> political operative and they have effectively covered up her involvement
> other than to say that the fraud reached high levels of the
> organization. These were all democrats and they tried to register 5000
> illegal immigrants to vote. Thus my claim, rebutting your ridiculous
> claim, that democrats want everyone to vote whether legal or not. I
> proved my point. Now show me some cases where republicans have kept
> legal voters from voting.
<Chuckle> What you posted was opinion. There is a nasty bit of charge
and counter charge going on in Harris county, but you have not shown any
*evidence* of voter fraud. Looks like your County Attorney has had a
belly full of the antics of the King Street Patriots. Also doesn't look
like you can keep a Registrar on the job. Wonder why that might be...
Fear of prosecution?
An independent old cuss
Gary
interesting. Maybe it should read "the truth and where it
deceives"? I'm beginning to wonder if most "truths" don't deceive
us.
An independent old cuss
"Gary" <n...@none.com> wrote in message
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awhile.