> On 3/07/12 14:22, in article jsuo6m$94...@dont-email.me, > "Glenn"
> <mino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Informed is the word. Since I am speaking from experience >>> and
>>> my thinking from observations my opinion is informed
>> Longstreet informed Lee that he was about to get his ass >> kicked
>> but arrogance coming from experience prevented Lee from
>> bypassing Gettysburg.
> A distant non-sequitur at best.
> Oh, yes my experience with French medicine is also base
> on the fact that my wife is a medical historian, specializing
> in the history of French medicine. We talk about her work
> And you, Glenn, what is your experience?
Quit a bit, but I don't take orders so you're out of luck. OTOH, spotting arrogance requires little talent. You're just a logic fallacy and don't know it. There's a better name for those experienced in one field feeling that qualifies them in other fields but you're not worth my looking it up.
>>> They also don't do anything.... When was the last Frenchman standing on
>>> the moon?
>> Do you mean that since 1969 the Americans have done nothing?
> Now that you mention it, we have done less and less since 1964, Kennedy
> was the Last REAL American President until Reagan who was also shot yet
> NOT killed.
> Someone managed to kill or almost kill the only two real Presidents that
> "We The People" have elected in 50 years.
Reagan wasn't elected; he was chosen by the Republican party because he would do what he was told to do. He was a bad actor and a worse President. After all, he started the economic meltdown with his "trickle down" for the rich economic scheme that was continued by Bush and Bush. Now Romney wants to go back to letting Wall Street and the bankers continue to destroy the middle class. It's dupes like you that believe the lies that pray on your fears and prejudices that elect these despicable con men repeat over and over again.
> On 3/07/12 16:43, in article jsv0et$p4...@dont-email.me, > "Glenn"
> <mino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Quit a bit, but I don't take orders so you're out of luck. `
I'll bet your mother thought debate tricks were cute. I search for the truth, you seem devoid of prospects. Just another shill that passes along what he's told without even an interest in examining it for truth, just feel good politics. Earl, "the unexamined life is not worth living," Socrates. If you want to collect seashells, be my guest, but don't pawn data off as insight, that's southern and that's a swindle.
: >> Earl has dual citizenship. He needs that because he thinks
: >> he's especially
: >> smart.
: > Informed is the word. Since I am speaking from experience and
: > development
: > my thinking from observations my opinion is informed
: Longstreet informed Lee that he was about to get his ass kicked
: but arrogance coming from experience prevented Lee from
: bypassing Gettysburg.
hillbillies love getting their asses kicked, it gives them a reason to feel sorry for themselves
> On 3/07/12 19:33, in article jsvadm$qg...@dont-email.me, > "Glenn"
> <mino...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'll bet your mother thought debate tricks were cute.
> My mother did not think anything about my debate tricks.
> She was never aware of any part of my life which involved
> debate. Nor did my father.
> Your own tricks are evident with that rather dumb statement.
If my tricks were better, perhaps I could learn more. Like I said you are a dry well. Let's hope the cause is oxygen deprivation otherwise as Socrates noted, your unexamined life hasn't been worth living.
On Sun, 1 Jul 2012 08:39:50 -0700 (PDT), Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>The proof is in the pudding.
>The French live longer than Americans.
Given the incredibly higher suicide rate in France compared to the U.S. while the U.S. has
little gun control that France has in comparison, one would question whether "living longer"
is actually seen as desirable by many of those living in France rather than the U.S.
> Given the incredibly higher suicide rate in France compared to the U.S. while the U.S. has
> little gun control that France has in comparison, one would question whether "living longer"
> is actually seen as desirable by many of those living in France rather than the U.S.
> Planet Visitor II
Quality of life is every bit as important as the length.
>On 4/07/12 12:22, in article jt15gc$5t...@dont-email.me, "Glenn"
>> Let's hope the cause is oxygen deprivation
>I am suffering from pulmonary fibrosis, which is a fatal
>disease, and one slowly choke to death. Oxygen deprivation
>is a daily problem with me and I require oxygen therapy.
As I heard a character say in a rather depressing movie (The Grey),
"We are all born with a death sentence". Looking at the human
condition from a more scientific perspective, we have evolved from a
soup of sub-atomic particles following the Big Bang into creatures
capable of looking back at the universe and understanding it. We could
be a lump of rock or a cloud of hydrogen gas. Instead we hit the
universal lottery, so may as well enjoy it while we can. Not many
lumps of matter are so privileged. (-8
> > On 7/1/2012 11:39 AM, Bret Cahill wrote:
> >> The proof is in the pudding.
> >> The French live longer than Americans.
> >> Next question?
> >> Bret Cahill
> > They also don't do anything.... When was the last Frenchman standing on
> > the moon?
> Do you mean that since 1969 the Americans have done nothing?
Bush was gonna go back to the moon, and let tax cuts pay for it!
When I go to the moon, I'm gonna laff at all the Frenchies!
For Republicans, the idea of requiring every American to have health
insurance is one of the most abhorrent provisions of the Democrats
health overhaul bills.
Congress has never crossed the line between regulating what
people choose to do and ordering them to do it, said Sen. Orrin Hatch
(R-UT). The difference between regulating and requiring is liberty.
But Hatchs opposition is ironic, or some would say, politically
motivated. The last time Congress debated a health overhaul, when Bill
Clinton was president, Hatch and several other senators who now oppose
the so-called individual mandate actually supported a bill that would
have required it.
In fact, says Len Nichols of the New America Foundation, the
individual mandate was originally a Republican idea. It was invented
by Mark Pauly to give to George Bush Sr. back in the day, as a
competition to the employer mandate focus of the Democrats at the
>> Given the incredibly higher suicide rate in France compared to the U.S.
>Hardly incredible, the male suicide rates in France and the US are
>respectively 26.4 and 19.0 per 100,000. And 16.2 and 11.8 overall.
>Truly incredible are the rates in countries like Lithuania, overall
>France's rate is in line to other Northern European countries, Switzerland's
>is 18.0 overall, Belgium 17.6.
It seems that every European country suffers from extreme dissatisfaction with
their lives compared to the U.S.
>(note to others, PV's historical weakness is in statistics, a true
My, my... but you are an angry little man when faced with the bare statistics.
What does Lithuania have to do with France? Or my comment? You
offer statistics which PROVE my point and then claim MY "weakness" is
statistics. Your "weakness" is apparently in the process of "thinking
things through clearly."
Clearly the word "incredible" is subjective, and I find the statistics that
show the greater suicide rate in France compared to the U.S. "incredible,"
considering that in 2008 firearms were responsible for 18,223 suicides in
the U.S., out of a total of 36,035. See --
Which is more than half of all suicides in the U.S. Are you claiming that half
of all suicides in France are from the use of firearms? If one takes out
firearms as a source of suicide in the U.S. the overall rate is cut in half.
What about France? If you take out firearms as a source of suicide in France
will the overall suicide rate be cut in half??? Ha ha ha... lots of luck with that.
Because the FACTS are that in 2007 there were 10,122 total suicides in France
and only 1,406 were suicides by firearms. Cogitate on that for a moment,
Earl. More than half of all suicides in the U.S. were by firearms... easily
accessible. While only 14% of all suicides in France were by firearms...
not so easily accessible.
The point could be made that 1) if France had the same easy access to firearms
as the U.S. there would have been 36% more suicides in France, while 2) if the
U.S. had the same degree of difficulty in obtaining firearms as in France, the
U.S. suicide rate would have decreased by 36%.
This is proven statistically and categorically by examining the suicides rates of those
TWO COUNTRIES, without muddying the waters by introducing any other phony
statistic meant only to avoid the POINT I am making. I'm quite willing to admit
that Lithuanians are probably much more depressed with life than even the French.
However, that has NOTHING to do with the POINT I am arguing. Stick to the point.
Since the original argument was "The French live longer than Americans." Which
you have now conveniently clipped out. Something you do quite often. That
original comment had NOTHING to do with "Lithuanians," nor "little green men."
My point is and has always been that the French are MORE DEPRESSED with life
in France than Americans are with life in the U.S. Couple that with the fact that it
is more difficult to conclude a suicide without the use of a firearm, and quite easy
to conclude a suicide if a firearm is readily available. It is not that difficult to posit that
those intent upon committing suicide will follow through on a statistical curve that
follows the easiest path to suicide. So without the easy access to a firearm, the
very difficulty in determining "how to" commit suicide can act as an impediment
to following through, and perhaps serve to change one's mind. At least in some
small number of cases.
You also neglected to mention "age." Perhaps because the suicide rate for
males over 75 is an ASTONISHING SIXTY-EIGHT per 100,000. Males certainly
do not like getting old in France. Apparently they are shoved aside as not
very important at that late stage in their life. While in the U.S. the latest
statistics for suicides by males over 65 is only 14.78 per/100,000 in 2009. See --