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The IRS’s Job Is To Violate Our Liberties
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Werner
May 20, 2013, 10:53:42 AM5/20/13
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As the first US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall said, “The power to tax is the power to destroy” — and who better to destroy than one’s political enemies? The very purpose of the IRS is to transfer wealth from one group to another while violating our liberties in the process, thus the only way Congress can protect our freedoms is to repeal the income tax and shutter the doors of the IRS once and for all.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-20/ron-paul-irs’s-job-violate-our-liberties
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-20/ron-paul-irs’s-job-violate-our-liberties
Alias
May 20, 2013, 11:40:05 AM5/20/13
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On 5/20/2013 4:53 PM, Werner wrote:
> As the first US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall said, �The
> power to tax is the power to destroy� � and who better to destroy
> than one�s political enemies? The very purpose of the IRS is to
>
>
I hope you're holding your breath so we have one less "taker".
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Alias
> As the first US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall said, �The
> power to tax is the power to destroy� � and who better to destroy
> than one�s political enemies? The very purpose of the IRS is to
> transfer wealth from one group to another while violating our
> liberties in the process, thus the only way Congress can protect our
> freedoms is to repeal the income tax and shutter the doors of the IRS
> once and for all.
> http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-20/ron-paul-irs�s-job-violate-our-liberties
> liberties in the process, thus the only way Congress can protect our
> freedoms is to repeal the income tax and shutter the doors of the IRS
> once and for all.
>
>
I hope you're holding your breath so we have one less "taker".
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Alias
Werner
May 20, 2013, 12:45:00 PM5/20/13
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Would this be a good time to expound on your moral superiority and caring nature, the a reported bedrock of your belief system?
flanier
May 20, 2013, 3:17:19 PM5/20/13
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On May 20, 7:53 am, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
> ... The very purpose of the IRS is to transfer wealth from one group to another ...
If that were true, I would ask "how is that working out?" The wealth
differential in this country is obscene. The middle is being
decimated and the beat goes on ...The rich get richer and the poor get
poored.
> ... The very purpose of the IRS is to transfer wealth from one group to another ...
If that were true, I would ask "how is that working out?" The wealth
differential in this country is obscene. The middle is being
decimated and the beat goes on ...The rich get richer and the poor get
poored.
Werner
May 20, 2013, 5:09:01 PM5/20/13
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Then it's working as intended. Did you maybe think all of this is done for The Common Good?
http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Myth.shtml
http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Myth.shtml
flanier
May 21, 2013, 3:04:42 AM5/21/13
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On May 20, 2:09 pm, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
> Then it's working as intended. ...
So you are suggesting that we have a few more policies that are
enabled for the "common good" ?
> Then it's working as intended. ...
So you are suggesting that we have a few more policies that are
enabled for the "common good" ?
mg
May 21, 2013, 7:05:23 AM5/21/13
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On May 20, 8:53 am, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
> As the first US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall said, “The power to tax is the power to destroy” — and who better to destroy than one’s political enemies? The very purpose of the IRS is to transfer wealth from one group to another while violating our liberties in the process, thus the only way Congress can protect our freedoms is to repeal the income tax and shutter the doors of the IRS once and for all.http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-20/ron-paul-irs’s-job-violate-our-liberties
Everyone is in favor of taxes. The only point of disagreement is with
> As the first US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall said, “The power to tax is the power to destroy” — and who better to destroy than one’s political enemies? The very purpose of the IRS is to transfer wealth from one group to another while violating our liberties in the process, thus the only way Congress can protect our freedoms is to repeal the income tax and shutter the doors of the IRS once and for all.http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-20/ron-paul-irs’s-job-violate-our-liberties
who gets taxed and for how much. As Russell B. Long once said, "Don't
tax you, don't tax me, tax that fellow behind the tree!"
Werner
May 21, 2013, 7:22:16 AM5/21/13
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No. What I continually suggest is found here.
http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Myth.shtml
I think it's pretty clear. If not, suggest improvements.
http://capitaldistrict-lp.org/Myth.shtml
I think it's pretty clear. If not, suggest improvements.
rumpelstiltskin
May 21, 2013, 7:54:10 AM5/21/13
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 14:09:01 -0700 (PDT), Werner <whet...@mac.com>
wrote:
>Then it's working as intended. Did you maybe think all of this is done for The Common Good?
I think that's the most explicit that Werner's ever been that he
wants the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.
wrote:
>Then it's working as intended. Did you maybe think all of this is done for The Common Good?
wants the rich to get richer and the poor to get poorer.
Werner
May 21, 2013, 9:25:48 AM5/21/13
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What I want is for government to stop cronies from getting and obedient chumps from paying. What you want is for government to decree you a crony and someone else the obedient chump. Unfortunately, unlimited government has been favoring the wrong groups and you prefer that to change because you think yourself more deserving than them. I'd like to know why you are more deserving of controling government for your purposes. Enlighten me. Why should I want to be an obedient chump for you instead of them?
BIG BIRD
May 21, 2013, 9:31:49 AM5/21/13
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"Werner" <whet...@mac.com> wrote in message
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you were born a chump and destined to chump through life for your masters
just STFU and git back to chumping white boy
rumpelstiltskin
May 21, 2013, 10:29:04 AM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 06:25:48 -0700 (PDT), Werner <whet...@mac.com>
wrote:
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serve your masters. If so, that's what I said in my original post.
As I've said before, IMO if you're rich and hold the views you do,
I find that unscrupulous. If you're not rich and hold those views, I
find that just dumb. If you live off inherited wealth and hold those
views, "unscrupulous" wouldn't be a bad enough word, IMV.
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>What I want is for government to stop cronies from getting and obedient chumps from paying. What you want is for government to decree you a crony and someone else the obedient chump. Unfortunately, unlimited government has been favoring the wrong groups and you prefer that to change because you think yourself more deserving than them. I'd like to know why you are more deserving of controling government for your purposes. Enlighten me. Why should I want to be an obedient chump for you instead of them?
I gather from what I can decipher in the above that you wish to
serve your masters. If so, that's what I said in my original post.
As I've said before, IMO if you're rich and hold the views you do,
I find that unscrupulous. If you're not rich and hold those views, I
find that just dumb. If you live off inherited wealth and hold those
views, "unscrupulous" wouldn't be a bad enough word, IMV.
Werner
May 21, 2013, 1:56:11 PM5/21/13
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You failed to answer my questions. Your opinion has little to do with reality. The Common Good is a rationalization that makes you feel comfortable when you want to take from others. In the real world interests conflict. Evidence is everywhere.
flanier
May 21, 2013, 3:42:36 PM5/21/13
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On May 21, 10:56 am, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
> ...The Common Good is a rationalization ....
Realy? How stupid of those "Founding Fathers".
Anyway, those roads you travel on to get the super-duper market, the
sewers that are aruably the greatest invention ever, the parks and on
and on...they aren't for the common good?
Don't buy a condo, Werner....they have common grounds....for which you
must pay the upkeep....for the common good.
> ...The Common Good is a rationalization ....
Realy? How stupid of those "Founding Fathers".
Anyway, those roads you travel on to get the super-duper market, the
sewers that are aruably the greatest invention ever, the parks and on
and on...they aren't for the common good?
Don't buy a condo, Werner....they have common grounds....for which you
must pay the upkeep....for the common good.
Werner
May 21, 2013, 4:17:20 PM5/21/13
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I'm told bailing out too big to fail banks is for the common good. Bailing out GM is for the common good, they say. Medicare, Medicaid, SS, the military industrial complex, the educational industrial complex, The War On Poverty, the War On Drugs, the Agriculture subsidy Dept., HUD, Fannie and Freddy, name an agency,... All for The Common Good. All of them funnel money to some lobby or other. So what is the problem? Instead of vilifying lobbies you should be praising them. You are not going to get entitlements, favors and protections without a lobby explaining how your wants are common while others are special. Why bother with political discourse or parties when our interests are common? Why form a lobby? Why donate to political campaigns? Why bother to vote? Why bother to vote with your feet?
If Special Education is a Common Good why not call it Common Education?
http://www.EndIt.info
If Special Education is a Common Good why not call it Common Education?
http://www.EndIt.info
rumpelstiltskin
May 21, 2013, 4:56:22 PM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 10:56:11 -0700 (PDT), Werner <whet...@mac.com>
wrote:
>You failed to answer my questions. Your opinion has little to do with reality. The Common Good is a rationalization that makes you feel comfortable when you want to take from others. In the real world interests conflict. Evidence is everywhere.
If you're talking to me, I don't have to answer any
series of "questions" from you
Everything I have, I worked for. I'm starting to
suspect you might be on welfare though, in the form
of inherited wealth or some other mechanism for
taking from humanity more than you put in. You
really do sound like I would think such people would
sound. I don't know, since you don't answer.
wrote:
>You failed to answer my questions. Your opinion has little to do with reality. The Common Good is a rationalization that makes you feel comfortable when you want to take from others. In the real world interests conflict. Evidence is everywhere.
series of "questions" from you
Everything I have, I worked for. I'm starting to
suspect you might be on welfare though, in the form
of inherited wealth or some other mechanism for
taking from humanity more than you put in. You
really do sound like I would think such people would
sound. I don't know, since you don't answer.
brian
May 21, 2013, 6:27:51 PM5/21/13
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rumpelstiltskin
May 21, 2013, 9:40:07 PM5/21/13
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because of their lack of anything but libertarian
doctrine and bitching, but I've had a fit of it over the
last week or so.
I really have been wondering about the motive
for Wermer's libertarianism. I feel there must be a
motive because I don't feel the philosophy is good
enough for anyone to subsume without a motive.
Since he'd just complained that I hadn't answered
a set of questions of his, I thought it was a good
time to point out that he rarely answers questions
about himself yet doesn't hesitate to challenge
others based on his assumptions about them.
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