In April, as Baghdad fell and American soldiers began searching for weapons
of mass destruction in Iraq, federal officials uncovered a cache of deadly
chemicals much closer to home -- in the eastern Texas town of Noonday. The
stockpile included a fully functional sodium cyanide bomb capable of killing
hundreds, as well as neo-Nazi and antigovernment literature, illegal
weapons, half a million rounds of ammunition, and more than 100 explosives,
including bombs disguised as suitcases.
William Krar, a 62-year-old manufacturer of gun parts and a right-wing
extremist who had rented the storage locker in which the cache was found,
has pleaded guilty in federal court to possessing a chemical weapon and
faces a possible life sentence. Two others -- Judith L. Bruey, Mr. Krar's
companion, and Edward Feltus, a member of a parmilitary group called the New
Jersey Militia -- are awaiting sentencing.
An isolated incident involving a few Americans on the far-right fringe? Most
people probably assume so, but federal authorities served more than 150
subpeonas in the case, and are still searching for others who may have been
involved.
The Noonday case shows just how serious a threat we face from domestic
terrorists. Consider this year's other high-profile incident involving
rightist causes: the arrest of Eric Rudolph, accused of bombing abortion
clinics and the 1996 Olympics. During his five years in the wilderness, he
was often viewed by the public and press as a lone fugitive. But law
enforcement officials have linked him to two national movements: the Army of
God, a biblically inspired underground network of anti-abortion extremists;
and the Christian Identity movement, whose members believe that Jews are the
literal children of Satan, nonwhites are sub-human, and that Anglo-Saxon
Christians are the true descendants of the lost tribes of Israel.
The examples keep coming. James Kopp, who was found guilty earlier this year
in the 1998 shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian in Buffalo was also affiliated
with the Army of God. Matthew Hale, leader of the World Church of the
Creator, a white-supremacist group, was arrested in January in Chicago on
charges of soliciting the murder of a federal judge. In February, federal
officials arrested Rafael Davila, a former Army National Guard intelligence
officer from Washington State; they say Mr. Davila and his former wife
planned to distribute highly classified documents to white supremacists and
antigovernment groups in North Carolina, Texas and Georgia.
Americans should question whether the Justice Department is making America's
far-right fanatics a serious priority.
''Unfortunately, keeping track of right-wing and neo-Nazi hate groups isn't
necessarily a path to career advancement in the Bureau,'' a Justice
Department official told me not long after the Oklahoma City attack.
''Agents get ahead by solving real crimes, like bank robbery, espionage and
murder.''
This stands in stark contrast to the department's news media onslaughts
whenever alleged operatives for Al Qaeda have been apprehended in the United
States.
No, the domestic terrorists of the radical right will never realize their
fantasies of ''Aryan Revolution.'' But they do remain ready, willing and
able to kill for their causes. As we saw in Oklahoma City and on 9/11, it
takes only a handful of committed zealots to wreak havoc. Given the violent
track record of America's hate groups, the F.B.I. and the public would do
well to pay closer attention to our home-grown version of Al Qaeda.
Zuiko Azumazi wrote:
> Our Enemies at Home
> By Daniel Levitas
(article deleted)
As you must know, this Christian lunatic, Krar, was sentenced to 11
years in jail in 2004, so this article is quite old.
Nevertheless, thank you for posting this piece, although a link to its
source would have been appropriate. The story of the christian Krar,
however, is well-known. Same, as to the other christians listed towards
the end of the article.
It is important to remember that islam is not the only religion which
menaces the minds of mankind. In the USA, christians were running wild
during the religionist Bush administration, which the electors kicked
out last year.
Islam is only one of many religions pertaining to big, fat, invisible,
supernatural gods, and which oppose the freedoms and liberties of man.
No credible person, living or dead has ever seen a god.
It is time for governments to take aggressive action, and define
religion as saying prayers to gods, and to punish and suppress any
additional expressions of "faith" beyond personal praying.
The insane outrages of the bible invoking New Jersey Militia, the racist
William Krar, and other murderous religionists, whether christian,
hindu, or islamic, need to be crushed immediately. If people want to do
religion all day, they should enter monasteries and leave everyone else
in peace.
Science and Secularism is the answer: No Gods, No Masters!
<snip> ...
>> Our Enemies at Home
>> By Daniel Levitas
<snip> ...
> As you must know, this Christian lunatic, Krar, was sentenced to 11
> years in jail in 2004, so this article is quite old.
<snip> ...
Comment:-
You may think this about this right-wing 'Christian lunatic' but does that
stop him being a homegrown American terrorist? You can certainly slough off
this traditional American right-wing terrorism as being "quite old" and, by
extension, an insignificant domestic threat, which many hostile
anti-Muslimism right-wing activists tend do in the hard-right media and in
open Muslim forums like SRI?
According to the recent DHS (Department of Homeland Security) 2009 report
their experts clearly think differently about the ever-present threat of
these homegrown American terrorists than right-wingers like you and
'drachir' :-
Brief Extract:-
.... rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their
fears about several emergent issues. The economic downturn and the election
of the first African American president present unique drivers for rightwing
radicalization and recruitment. ...
Threats from white supremacist and violent antigovernment groups during 2009
have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry out
violent acts. Nevertheless, the consequences of a prolonged economic
downturn - including real estate foreclosures, unemployment, and an
inability to obtain credit- could create a fertile recruiting environment
for rightwing extremists and even result in confrontations between such
groups and government authorities similar to those in the past. ...
During the 1990s, these issues contributed to the growth in the number of
domestic rightwing terrorist and extremist groups and an increase in violent
acts targeting government facilities, law enforcement officers, banks, and
infrastructure sectors. ...
Rightwing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African
American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members,
mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through
propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning. ...
DHS/I&A assesses that lone wolves and small terrorist cells embracing
violent rightwing extremist ideology are the most dangerous domestic
terrorism threat in the United States. Information from law enforcement and
nongovernmental organizations indicates lone wolves and small terrorist
cells have shown intent-and, in some cases, the capability-to commit violent
acts. ...
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
End extract.
Conveniently, isn't denying the existence of these right-wing American
terrorists a cynical exercise in collective 'right-wing' amnesia to win an
ideological argument against the vast majority of peaceful Muslims and by
extension Islam? I repeat, that all these conspicuous non-Muslim, the :
"lone wolves and small terrorist cells embracing violent rightwing extremist
ideology are the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the United
States.". Why don't you believe the DHS as most thinking Muslim citizens in
America do?
--
Peace
--
The past is what you remember, imagine you remember, convince yourself
you remember, or pretend you remember" [Harold Pinter]
Zuiko Azumazi
zuiko....@gmail.com
<snip> ...
> Was the fact that you did not post the link to this article, which
> would have shown it to be from 2003, meant to deceive?
<snip> ...
Comment:-
If you had bothered to check I did post the relevant link in my other reply
to yourself in your Byzantine; "What's the difference between a petty
criminal and a terrorist?" thread!. Did your failure to mention that fact
constitute a deception or simply a red-herring meant to mislead or distract
unaware non-Muslim readers? But you, like any other reader, easily managed
to search out this "NYT - Our Enemies at Home" article in Google or
elsewhere, does that automatically make it cunningly deceptive in your
oblique 'atheist' mind?
But does this oblique "2003" retort of yours make it redundant or invalid?
Not according to the recent 2009 DHS report posted, at some length, in my
separate reply to Cuthbert Thistlethwaite in this self-same thread. Here a
brief extract (with link <G>) which I have to boringly repeat for your
"deceptive" anti-Muslimism benefit:-
Brief Extract:-
.... rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their
fears about several emergent issues. The economic downturn and the election
of the first African American president present unique drivers for rightwing
radicalization and recruitment. ...
Threats from white supremacist and violent antigovernment groups during 2009
have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry out
violent acts. Nevertheless, the consequences of a prolonged economic
downturn - including real estate foreclosures, unemployment, and an
inability to obtain credit- could create a fertile recruiting environment
for rightwing extremists and even result in confrontations between such
groups and government authorities similar to those in the past. ...
During the 1990's, these issues contributed to the growth in the number of
domestic rightwing terrorist and extremist groups and an increase in violent
acts targeting government facilities, law enforcement officers, banks, and
infrastructure sectors. ...
Rightwing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African
American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members,
mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through
propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning. ...
DHS/I&A assesses that lone wolves and small terrorist cells embracing
violent rightwing extremist ideology are the most dangerous domestic
terrorism threat in the United States. Information from law enforcement and
nongovernmental organizations indicates lone wolves and small terrorist
cells have shown intent-and, in some cases, the capability-to commit violent
acts. ...
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf
End extract.
Do extreme right-wing rhetorical atheists, in obvious "terrorism" denial,
then constitute a clear and present danger to the American public at large
rather than the cockeyed Muslim stereotype that you unthinkingly parrot in
this peaceful Islamic forum in 2009?
Like most anti-Muslimism extremists in Europe, you know those raving
demagogues and rabble-rousers over on the apocalyptic blogosphere, those
non-Muslims with atheist Neo-Nazi convictions (for example your veiled
reference to the 'Gates of Vienna' cabal and their fellow travelers)?
<Quote> ...
We recently featured an article about a meeting in Brussels between
America's
top hate mongers and Europe's top neo-Nazi officials.
Since then, some of America's indigenous hate mongers have been either
denying that Vlaams Belang is a neo-Nazi group (despite the overwhelming
evidence, including a court conviction for such), or actually defending
neo-Nazis, claiming (variously) "there is nothing wrong with them, there was
nothing wrong with the original Nazis, Hitler had the right idea, neo-Nazism
is only defending the rights of 'White people', genocide and ethnic
cleansing are necessary", and other sickening excuses for extreme racism. At
this point, it appears as though some of our American hate groups are
"bringing the brownshirts and jackboots out of their closets", as it were,
dusting them off and showing the unmitigated hatred they hold for anyone who
is not Caucasian. It won't be long before we see them practicing their
goosestepping.
Reading these claims from Robert Spencer, Cristy Li, The Gates of Vienna,
Pam Geller @ Atlas Shrugs, Sean Drake (aka Glen Reinsford @
thereligionofpeace), Foehammer, and the various and sundry David Horowitz
publications, could easily substitute for Emergency Room use of Syrup of
Ipecac. ...
http://www.chasingevil.org/2007/12/american-racists-support-european-neo.html
<Unquote> ...
As the aforesaid DHS government report clearly and unequivocally reveals:-
<Quote> ...
A prominent civil rights organization reported in 2006 that "large numbers
of potentially violent neo-Nazis, skinheads, and other white supremacists
are now learning the art of warfare in the [U.S.] armed forces." ...
<Unquote> ...
--
Peace
--
Political language ... and with variations this is true of all political
parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists ... is designed to make lies
sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of
solidity to pure wind. [George Orwell]
Zuiko Azumazi.
zuiko....@gmail.com
That's nice, but it doesn't answer my question.
<snip>
<snip> ...
> That's nice, but it doesn't answer my question.
<snip> ...
Comment:-
Yes it does, but as usual one must question your cognitive and comprehens=
ion=20
ability, which must be sadly lacking if you are incapable of making the=20
conclusive and indisputable link between these two posts of mine in SRI. =
Why=20
didn't this other reply then give you an adequate answer to your puerile =
and=20
inaccurate "deceive" retort? Isn't this latest post simply another=20
red-herring, a devious and deceptive diversion intended to distract=20
attention from the main "Our Enemies at Home" and the ever-present Americ=
an=20
extremism issue?
Didn't my previous post :
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.religion.islam/msg/e2ab15ec1ce9b4d2?hl=
=3Den
precisely state (which I repeat for the benefit of honest and sensible=20
readers)? :-
REPEAT:-
Were they now? Isn't this an exercise in wishful thinking? Doesn't this
earlier NYTimes link refute and demolish this bigoted idea of yours about=
=20
Muslims and the existence of non-Muslim terrorists in America? :-
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/13/opinion/our-enemies-at-home.html
Extract:-
The Noonday case shows just how serious a threat we face from domestic
terrorists. Consider this year's other high-profile incident involving=20
rightist causes: the arrest of Eric Rudolph, accused of bombing abortion=20
clinics and the 1996 Olympics. During his five years in the wilderness, h=
e=20
was often viewed by the public and press as a lone fugitive. But law=20
enforcement officials have linked him to two national movements: the Army=
of=20
God, a biblically inspired underground network of anti-abortion extremist=
s;=20
and the Christian Identity movement, whose members believe that Jews are =
the=20
literal children of Satan, nonwhites are sub-human, and that Anglo-Saxon=20
Christians are the true descendants of the lost tribes of Israel.
The examples keep coming. James Kopp, who was found guilty earlier this y=
ear=20
in the 1998 shooting of Dr. Barnett Slepian in Buffalo was also affiliate=
d=20
with the Army of God. Matthew Hale, leader of the World Church of the=20
Creator, a white-supremacist group, was arrested in January in Chicago on=
=20
charges of soliciting the murder of a federal judge. In February, federal=
=20
officials arrested Rafael Davila, a former Army National Guard intelligen=
ce=20
officer from Washington State; they say Mr. Davila and his former wife=20
planned to distribute highly classified documents to white supremacists a=
nd=20
antigovernment groups in North Carolina, Texas and Georgia.
End extract.
END REPEAT
But wonder of wonders, what do you and the other 'useful idiots' in the=20
disbelieving cabal, armchair warriors of a declining atheism in the=20
twighlight zone, make of this confirmative article in CSM concerning=20
American homegrown right-wing terrorism and terrorists? Would you say the=
=20
original post of mine in the thread was being prescient?
Extract:-
Concerns mount that suspect in abortion-doctor shooting had extremist tie=
s.=20
In 1996, a Kansan with the same name was arrested with bombmaking materia=
ls=20
in his car trunk. Analysts who study American extremism are pointing to a=
=20
1996 arrest report that, they say, links the leading suspect in the murde=
r=20
of Kansas abortion doctor George Tiller to some of the most zealous=20
antigovernment groups in the United States. Law enforcement officials=20
currently have in custody Scott Philip Roeder of Merriam, Kan., age 51.=20
Thirteen years ago, someone named Scott Roeder, 38, was arrested in Topek=
a,=20
Kan., and charged with criminal use of explosives after police found fuse=
=20
cord and a pound of gunpowder in his car trunk. He also had a homemade=20
license plate on his car proclaiming he was immune from Kansas law =96 a =
type=20
of tag that's been associated with the Freemen organization, which reject=
s=20
the authority of the US government. Freemen in Montana were involved in a=
n=20
81-day standoff with US marshals in 1996 after they tried to set up their=
=20
own system of government. ... Police investigating the Tiller shooting ha=
ve=20
not said they are investigating any links between Mr. Roeder and right-wi=
ng=20
extremism. ... The shooting comes at a time when federal law enforcement=20
agencies have been worried about a resurgence in right-wing extremist=20
violence. There has been an upsurge in anger levels on extremist web site=
s=20
and in group internal communications, he says. "Two broad things underlie=
=20
this: the economic crisis, and the election of Barack Obama, which has ma=
de=20
the extreme right very angry," says Pitcavage. ...
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0602/p02s01-usgn.html
End extract.
As some atheists might mindlessly relate, "Yes that's nice", but can they=
=20
intelligently reply, or refute the argument in the face of the facts, or =
can=20
sensible subscribers expect just another simplistic or banal one-liner?
But I expect blaming Islam and Muslims might still be the stereotypical a=
nd=20
scapegoating response, especially when individual American citizens artfu=
lly=20
try and disassociate themselves from their own domestically inspired=20
terrorism conducted by their fellow American citizens. Isn't it apparent=20
that this disingenuous form of temple 'denial' works as a intellectual=20
defence mechanism with atheistic followers of the secular "cult of reason=
"?
Peace
--
We are all sufferers from history, but the paranoid is a double
sufferer, since he is afflicted not only by the real world, with the
rest of us, but by his fantasies as well. [Richard Hofstadter]
Zuiko Azumazi
zuiko....@gmail.com
Show how it does, please.