Identity Of The Remnant
Frank
The remnant is not any particular denomination.
In fact, the thousands of denominations do not
even know the real Gospel, but rather generally
profess faith alone in Christ alone and then tell
people to be saved by faith plus repentance.
And then the few denominations who actually
do tell people to be saved by faith alone then
tell them such faith comes thru means of grace,
including baptism (including infant baptism) and
sacrament, so that people just trust in their own
"righteousness" anyway (their baptism such as
infant baptism, and their taking the sacrament).
The remnant are those who are scattered among
the thousands of denominations and worldwide
who have salvation by faith alone in Christ alone,
the only way salvation ever comes. Christ enables
the remnant to do those things that are definitely
to be done, such as repentance, baptism, church,
sacrament, giving, deeds, endurance, but without
trusting those for salvation because all trust must
be on Christ alone for anyone to be saved.
Christ enables the remnant to trust in him alone for
salvation by showing them that he is their Righteous
Substitute who took their place on the cross to be
their righteousness and salvation so that they could
have eternal life. Because Christ is their Substitution,
the remnant have absolutely no trust in their own
"righteousness" (as from repentance, baptism,
church, sacrament, endurance) but rather only
on Christ to take their place in the sight of God.
Just as Christ had those that were to be his disciples
in the right place at the right time for his coming into
the world, so Christ has his remnant right where he
wants them today so that those who know the real
Gospel may reach others of his remnant at the time
and in the way that he wants them to be reached.
Christ uses his relatively small remnant of a few million
to do what the thousands of denominations with all
their resources and programs and hundreds of millions
of people can never do. The remnant reaches those
that Christ has appointed to salvation and for Rapture
with the Gospel that saves, while the denominations
with their false "gospels", and those few that cloud up
the real Gospel, cause people to feel they are saved so
that those people shut out the real Gospel.
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>The remnant is not any particular denomination.
>In fact, the thousands of denominations do not
>even know the real Gospel
Frank, your second statement is completely unrelated to your first
statement, apparently.
With a start like that, it is hard and uninteresting to continue
further with it.
Bob
Christ Died to Save You
Frank
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> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:10:06 -0500 (CDT), "Frank"
> <roi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>The remnant is not any particular denomination.
>>In fact, the thousands of denominations do not
>>even know the real Gospel
>
> Frank, your second statement is completely unrelated to your first
> statement, apparently.
>
Just as Scripture says; Israel not knowing the Gospel, did not attain
righteousness,
but the remnant in Israel by faith attained the righteousness of God, that
of Christ:
What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for;
but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
(Romans 11:7 KJV)
bwme...@toast.net
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:57:15 -0500 (CDT), "Frank"
<roi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:10:06 -0500 (CDT), "Frank"
>> <roi...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>The remnant is not any particular denomination.
>>>In fact, the thousands of denominations do not
>>>even know the real Gospel
>>
>> Frank, your second statement is completely unrelated to your first
>> statement, apparently.
>>
>
>
>Just as Scripture says; Israel not knowing the Gospel, did not attain
>righteousness,
>but the remnant in Israel by faith attained the righteousness of God, that
>of Christ:
>
>What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for;
>but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
>(Romans 11:7 KJV)
>
Ok, thanks for your reply!
But what threw me was your use of "denomination*"
I think "denomination" is used to mean a sect of christendom, of which
there are many (didn't know there were "thousands," however --- the
last count I heard someone make was around 270). Israel, and her
current blindness, as prophesied in Hosea and Isaiah 6 is the subject
of Romans 9-11, and the "remnant" is those of Israel who DO believe,
such as Peter and Paul and most of the NT Authors (possibly excepting
Luke).
I don't think that "christian" denominations (Grk. skizma --- 1 Cor.
11) or is the subject of Romans 9-11, except for a few comparative
warnings in Romans 11, such as --->
1 I say then, Has God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am
an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
(That is, Paul is stating that he himself is one of the "remnant."
2 God has not cast away his people which he foreknew. Know you not
what the scripture said of Elias? how he makes intercession to God
against Israel saying,
3 Lord, they have killed your prophets, and dig down your altars; and
I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what said the answer of God to him? I have reserved to myself
seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according
to the election of grace.
(And here Paul is saying that there are others, as well as himself ---
that is JEWS, who DID believe, a remnant out of the majority of Jews
who did not believer)
Bob