Shutting down Usenet?
David Foster
carrying news groups on or around July 15.
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Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T
will no longer be offering access to the Usenet
netnews service. If you wish to continue
reading Usenet newsgroups, access is available
through third-party
vendors.
Posted only internally to AT&T Usenet Servers.
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Does anybody have any info on this? OK, so what
do we do? What does this mean to the future of
SOF? Where do we we find these third-party
vendors? I really don't want to give up Usenet,
and I don't want to watch SOF disappear.
David Foster
David Simpson
<davi...@sbcglobal.net> typed:
There are a number of free servers available which can be used in
place of the AT&T server. A Google search for free+usenet+server
should find most of them. In addition there are several pay services,
most fairly cheap. I use a service called datemas.de, I have also
heard about Motzarella, aieou(sp?) and others. The free ones are not
always reliable although I have never had a problem with datemas.de
but I suspect that it is no longer accepting new accounts.
You would simply need to set up a new account in your newsreader once
you have registered for your new service. The confirmation e-mail
should give the necessary details.
--
Regards
David Simpson
(Unattached MM, Victoria, Australia)
Don't worry. Life's too long. -- Vincent Sardi, Jr.
Mudge
Motzarilla.org is one of them and there are news servers in Germany and
around the world that will still carry usenet - I'm not sure how you
find them all but you could ask on "alt.usenet.offline-reader"
My server discontinued the digital stuff a year or so back but the text
bits are still ok - or - at least I have not heard otherwise - but
there has been a lot of chatter on the newsgroups I surf
--
BES (in Calgary)
Save our precious CO2 - plant many trees
Jim Bennie
news:zq5_l.28$cl4...@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
>I got this message here in SOF that AT&T will quit carrying news groups on
>or around July 15.
> Does anybody have any info on this? OK, so what do we do? What does this
> mean to the future of SOF? Where do we we find these third-party vendors?
> I really don't want to give up Usenet, and I don't want to watch SOF
> disappear.
One of my ISPs doesn't have Usenet any more. Like BBSs, its day has passed.
It was from a time before web forums, or even when web access was practical
for home computer users.
You can always subscribe to this group by e-mail. Or do a web search of open
news servers that carry the newsgroup.
Jim, Vancouver
Doug Freyburger
>
> +++ Quote +++
> Please note that on or around July 15, 2009, AT&T
> will no longer be offering access to the Usenet
> netnews service. �If you wish to continue
> reading Usenet newsgroups, access is available
> through third-party
> vendors.
>
> Posted only internally to AT&T Usenet Servers.
It was a violation of UseNet protocols for them to post
messages internally like that. Bad vendor for doing
that.
> +++ End Quote +++
>
> Does anybody have any info on this?
UseNet has a list of advantages over web boards. Being
independent of any one server is near the top of the list
of advantages. I've been on sever web boards that died
when the owner lost interest. I've moved from server to
server on UseNet posting to the same groups.
> OK, so what do we do?
Check out some of the free and paid NSPs. I have used
groups.google.com for a while. Plenty of my friends use
news.individual.net. There are more options than I could
list.
> What does this mean to the future of SOF?
No effect at all. The SOF moderation team doesn't
use that vendor.
> Where do we we find these third-party vendors?
This is one of many lists of suggestions:
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=faqs:news_providers
> I really don't want to give up Usenet,
> and I don't want to watch SOF disappear.
This is a bit like one lodge closing down and surrendering
its charter. Masonry, notwithstanding, survives. The
members affiliate with other lodges and life goes on. The
exact same principle applies to UseNet. It's a strength
both share.
bobthecow
You could continue reading through that service.
-Kevin Sweeney
Elgin Lodge No. 117, A. F. & A. M. of Illinois
Alan Schwartz
When UIC dropped USENET, I started paying monthly for a Supernews
account in order to continue to be able to run the moderation
for s.o.f.
Supernews has been fast, reliable, and has good coverage; unlike
many free USENET servers, you can post through it. I think I pay
about $4/month.
You can also read via mailing list:
http://mail.cybermango.org/mailman/listinfo/sof-mail
And you can post via email to sof-s...@mail.cybermango.org
(But using a real USENET server is better, as it'll get the
threading right).
- Alan, s.o.f moderator
--
Alan Schwartz, PM
Chaplain and WM-elect, Berwyn Lodge #839, A.F. & A.M., Berwyn, Illinois, USA
Master of the 1st Veil, Irving Park Chapter #195 RAM
32nd deg. Scottish Rite Mason, Valley of Chicago, AASR (NJ)
Stuart H.
>
>
> When UIC dropped USENET, I started paying monthly for a Supernews
> account in order to continue to be able to run the moderation
> for s.o.f.
>
> Supernews has been fast, reliable, and has good coverage; unlike
> many free USENET servers, you can post through it. I think I pay
> about $4/month.
>
> You can also read via mailing list:
> http://mail.cybermango.org/mailman/listinfo/sof-mail
> And you can post via email to sof-s...@mail.cybermango.org
> (But using a real USENET server is better, as it'll get the
> threading right).
>
> - Alan, s.o.f moderator
>
I use free.teranews.com without any problem.
Stuart H.
David Foster
>
>
> When UIC dropped USENET, I started paying monthly for a Supernews
> account in order to continue to be able to run the moderation
> for s.o.f.
>
> Supernews has been fast, reliable, and has good coverage; unlike
> many free USENET servers, you can post through it. I think I pay
> about $4/month.
>
> You can also read via mailing list:
> http://mail.cybermango.org/mailman/listinfo/sof-mail
> And you can post via email to sof-s...@mail.cybermango.org
> (But using a real USENET server is better, as it'll get the
> threading right).
>
> - Alan, s.o.f moderator
>
to do.
David
David Foster
> I read from groups.google.com
>
> You could continue reading through that service.
>
> -Kevin Sweeney
> Elgin Lodge No. 117, A. F. & A. M. of Illinois
>
>
David
David Foster
David
David Foster
>
> There are a number of free servers available which can be used in
> place of the AT&T server. A Google search for free+usenet+server
> should find most of them. In addition there are several pay services,
> most fairly cheap. I use a service called datemas.de, I have also
> heard about Motzarella, aieou(sp?) and others. The free ones are not
> always reliable although I have never had a problem with datemas.de
> but I suspect that it is no longer accepting new accounts.
>
> You would simply need to set up a new account in your newsreader once
> you have registered for your new service. The confirmation e-mail
> should give the necessary details.
Thanks, Brother David
David
nada
part, of their contracted for services.<g>
Jack Wise
news groups. Halnet access is $10.00 per month.
http://www.hal-pc.org/halnet.html
Scroll to the bottom of the page for subscription info.
You do not have to be a member of HAL-PC in order to use the internet
services. For newsgroups, you simply point your e-mail client to
news.hal-pc.org
You can keep your present e-mail address through your present ISP or you
can use HAL-PC mail (or both).
Check it out.
--
Jack Wise
PM, Jacques DeMolay Lodge No. 1390, AF & AM, Houston, TX
( www.jd1390.org/jdmlodge.htm )
Member: Oak Wood Lodge No. 1444, AF & AM, The Woodlands, TX
TEXAS red wine: renowned for its smoky-mesquite-bbq & jalapeno
overtones, the perfect foil for a meal of tacos and refried beans...
Offramp
> I use free.teranews.com without any problem.
I use Teranews as well; I have paid a small amount for "Life
Membership" to some kind of premium account... But it any case I think
Google groups is easier and more readable,