Goin' to Amsterdam
Anthony Berno
My ever so brilliant, big, dumb bear, being the Distinguished Scientist
that he is, has been invited to speak at a conference in Mikonos this May.
Life's tough, isn't it?
En route, we are planning to spend a week in Amsterdam, so I'm looking
for:
1) Suggestions as to where to stay, preferably in an interesting part of
town, i.e. "where the wild things are".
2) Suggestions for places to go for
-fine cuisine that's not too pricey.
-fine instant sexual gratification.
-fine bars full of horny, hairy leathermen.
3) An offer for accomodation? We're both relatively technical types, John
is 42, big and bearded, and I'm a 22 yr. old otter type that just can't
sit still. We're both very free with our affection and always looking for
fun.
Email me with your suggestions!
-Anthony
D. Owen Rowley
>En route, we are planning to spend a week in Amsterdam, so I'm looking
>for:
>
>1) Suggestions as to where to stay, preferably in an interesting part of
>town, i.e. "where the wild things are".
One thing for sure, do NOT arrive in town without a pre-booked hotel
reservation. Get a *best* guide or something like it, and check out your
potential hotels carefully. Do NOT fall for the spiel of the folks who
accost you out in front of the Train station promising cheap accomodations.
Get a hotel in the good part of town, and sleaze during your waking hours.
Mick and I stayed at the ITC and found it pleasant.
I hear the New York has accomodations more to the american taste.
Oh and be prepared to be vigilant about pick pockets.
>2) Suggestions for places to go for
> -fine cuisine that's not too pricey.
Mac Donalds and Burger king
> -fine instant sexual gratification.
The basement of the Argos.
The upstairs at the Web
> -fine bars full of horny, hairy leathermen.
The Argos
the Web
LUX .. owen
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Michael Portuesi
abe...@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno) writes:
|> we are planning to spend a week in Amsterdam, so
Please share them with us all. Some of us have about a month
of vacation time saved up and are getting itchy about using
it...
m.
--
Michael Portuesi Silicon Graphics, Inc. port...@sgi.com
Joseph Francis
>that he is, has been invited to speak at a conference in Mikonos this May.
>Life's tough, isn't it?
>
>En route, we are planning to spend a week in Amsterdam, so I'm looking
>for:
>
>1) Suggestions as to where to stay, preferably in an interesting part of
>town, i.e. "where the wild things are".
Two people from motss have already been caught up short: make
reservations in advance, PLEASE. Hotels are booked up in advance
virtually all the time. Hotel New York, about $120 a night is good.
>2) Suggestions for places to go for
> -fine cuisine that's not too pricey.
Take a train to Bruges. Amsterdam is not know for its cuisine, though
you can get good Indonesian food. Don't let the slice of wet ham with
a raw egg floating on white bread and tomato and lettuce in the
morning for breakfast fool you.
> -fine instant sexual gratification.
You are there with a partner, after all...?
> -fine bars full of horny, hairy leathermen.
Give me a call and I'll take a train up and give you a jojo "I just
dropped acid and my glasses came apart in the furthest recesses of the
backroom at the argos and it took me 5 hours to find the pieces
because they are expensive Oliver Peoples antique frames and people
were riding me like a pony thank god I was wearing my rubber bodysuit,
let's get some french fries covered with mayonnaise and find the bar
with Sailors" tour of Amsterdam.
>3) An offer for accomodation? We're both relatively technical types, John
>is 42, big and bearded, and I'm a 22 yr. old otter type that just can't
>sit still. We're both very free with our affection and always looking for
>fun.
--
US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.
Tsilke Pearlman
>In article <1992Apr15.2...@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca> abe...@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
>>En route, we are planning to spend a week in Amsterdam, so I'm looking
>>for:
>>
>>1) Suggestions as to where to stay, preferably in an interesting part of
>>town, i.e. "where the wild things are".
>One thing for sure, do NOT arrive in town without a pre-booked hotel
>reservation. Get a *best* guide or something like it, and check out your
>potential hotels carefully. Do NOT fall for the spiel of the folks who
>accost you out in front of the Train station promising cheap accomodations.
>Get a hotel in the good part of town, and sleaze during your waking hours.
>Mick and I stayed at the ITC and found it pleasant.
>I hear the New York has accomodations more to the american taste.
The Hotel Quentin is marvelous, fairly inexspensive and run by a gay male
couple who can point you in any direction you'd want to go...
(and all parts of A'dam are close to 'where the wild things are', right
FJ!!? Phone is 020-626 21 87 or 627 44 08.
>>2) Suggestions for places to go for
>> -fine cuisine that's not too pricey.
>Mac Donalds and Burger king
No, no, NO.
The Blauwe Hollander (whats the male prep. in Dutch?).
Cheap dutch food and lot's of it. Huge plates of brown beans with apples
and bacon, turreens of split pea soup to bathe in, giant mounds of
ribs, and humongous sausages...This is the place to go, and only a block
or two from the McD's on Leidsestraat.
There's another one like it, foods not as good but they give you
even more and it's run by a fabulously campy leatherfag and his
cohorts called something like "T'Spuisje"-an amazingly LOUD place
to have dinner...
>> -fine instant sexual gratification.
>The basement of the Argos.
>The upstairs at the Web
Yup, and yup, according to our male traveling companion, who started at
the Argos, found a Top to take him to the C'ring and the Web and ended
up in a private fuck pad romping on the leather bedspread.
I, of course, only got glimpses of suchlike...
Tsilke-Who *will* be moving there if we have four more years of Reptiles-
that is Republicans...
---
"Heterosexuals have orgasms, I thought, too,
but they have to make dates first. Poor Things."
Kevin Killian - _SHY_
Pieter Hazewindus
>Lastly, I'd heard some ghastly rumor to the effect that the Dutch gov't
>has taken a swing towards the (relatively) conservative, and had started
>enforcing the marijuana and prostitution laws again.
You're wrong. The current government is a center-left coalition (or
Roman-red, as they say). Prostitution may even be legalized in the
not too distant future. The Dutch drug policy is very successful, and
there's no reason to change it.
>So, how does an enterprising young bi boy do Amsterdam on a budget? For
>that matter, how do I *get* there without selling my firstborn to
>American Airlines or suchlike?
Get a discount travel agent, fly as a courier, fly a third-world
airline such as Alia (Royal Jordanian). In Amsterdam, stay in a youth
hostel, or stay in a hotel in another city and ride the train. (There
are trains all night long to all major cities in the West.) Use public
transportation -- it's cheap, safe, fast, and convenient.
Or make friends fast. One real good friend is all you need.
# But Dutch guys are impossible, even the hustlers. They have these
# childishly beautiful faces that lead you to think they'll be open and
# sweet and so on, but it's a fluke because they're actually closed,
# repressed, insecure, arrogant people, all of which makes them more
# devastating to me, for some reason. -- Dennis Cooper
Pieter Hazewindus pie...@cs.caltech.edu
D. Owen Rowley
>o...@netcom.com (D. Owen Rowley) writes:
>>Mac Donalds and Burger king
>No, no, NO.
>The Blauwe Hollander (whats the male prep. in Dutch?).
>Cheap dutch food and lot's of it. Huge plates of brown beans with apples
>and bacon, turreens of split pea soup to bathe in, giant mounds of
>ribs, and humongous sausages...This is the place to go, and only a block
>>or two from the McD's on Leidsestraat.
Perhaps it was the two weeks in London prior to out Amsterdamn adventure,
but every place I ate in Amsterdamn ( besides Micky Dees and Burger Shri)
gave me gastric distress.
At least I lost weight :-)
>>> -fine instant sexual gratification.
>>The basement of the Argos.
>>The upstairs at the Web
>
>Yup, and yup, according to our male traveling companion, who started at
Did you think I didn't from whence I spoke :-} ( smirk)
>the Argos, found a Top to take him to the C'ring and the Web and ended
>up in a private fuck pad romping on the leather bedspread.
I prefered to start at the web, with occasional forays to the Cuckoos nest
( I used to own a bar in Providence by the same name)
And found the clump of Leather bars on Woermerstraat more accomodating
for those extra late hours.
They have a nice sling at the Argos in case you get sleepy :-)
>I, of course, only got glimpses of suchlike...
As I understand it Women are not allowed in any of these bars.
A policy I disagree with when its leather women being excluded, but agree
with when its a doe eyed tourist clinging for life to her date.
I figure its the same operative principle as that behind women only
workout centers who don't want gawkers.
Jess Anderson
In article <1992Apr17.0...@cco.caltech.edu>
pie...@cs.caltech.edu (Pieter Hazewindus) writes:
>>So, how does an enterprising young bi boy do Amsterdam on a budget? For
>>that matter, how do I *get* there without selling my firstborn to
>>American Airlines or suchlike?
>Get a discount travel agent, fly as a courier, fly a third-world
>airline such as Alia (Royal Jordanian).
I got good rates from MartinAir, the Dutch charter airline,
on my first trip to that *terrific* country. Oh, I do adore
the Dutch. Amsterdam is one of the two or three most
wonderful cities, I think; I could very easily live there.
And the coffee is simply the best I've *ever* had, other
than what I make at home.
>In Amsterdam, stay in a youth
>hostel, or stay in a hotel in another city and ride the train. (There
>are trains all night long to all major cities in the West.) Use public
>transportation -- it's cheap, safe, fast, and convenient.
Aye to all that. I stayed at a delightful small hotel run
by gay people, the Hotel Unique (37 Kerkstraat, as I recall)
for about $30/night (1983, sure to be more now, but not
$170). In 1984 (with my mother), the Hotel Karolinska (quite
posh) was $85/night.
>Or make friends fast. One real good friend is all you need.
I would rate it the easiest of all cities -- bar none --
that I've been in to make friends. The Dutch seem to me
friendlier than Americans, who are (correctly, I think) not
notoriously reserved.
In contrast to Owen and Mick, I found good food easy to come
by in Amsterdam. There was a fish place (Sluizers?) that
was quite good. The Indonesian food, though expensive (so
splurge at least once!) is *quite* fabulous.
Gotta get back there before I shuffle off the planet.
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Stephen Hutchison
+Fu...@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
+! [...] I'm not normally fond of trying new
+! foods and new restaurants -- when I'm in a strange city and damn
+! hungry, it's the absolute *LAST* thing I want to do.
+
+ Does this mean we can put you down for the entertainment
+section of the traditional Dim Sum brunch at motss.con.portland?
+
+BBC, passing the squid eyeballs
+and the chicken feet... and who
+is getting up the nerve to go into
+Chinatown [Boston] to try a restaurant
+that severs hot and sour soup in the
+traditional manner (i.e. *with* the
+coagulated duck's blood!)
+
+[news and/or stomach pumping at 11]
I don't know if Fong Chong does the duck's blood - I suspect not for the
westerners. They DO have chicken feet. They sometimes do duck feet, tho
I found them not to be spectacular. They don't do squid eyeballs the last
I knew of, because squid in general don't appear in the menu.
They do have some real good strange stuff - "Don't ask what it is, eat it,
you like it." "What is it?" "beef stomachs with ground taro root, cook
is being creative today"
Hutch
Joseph Francis
>
>In article <1992Apr17.0...@cco.caltech.edu>
>pie...@cs.caltech.edu (Pieter Hazewindus) writes:
>
>>>So, how does an enterprising young bi boy do Amsterdam on a budget?
>>airline such as Alia (Royal Jordanian).
>I got good rates from MartinAir, the Dutch charter airline,
>on my first trip to that *terrific* country. Oh, I do adore
>the Dutch. Amsterdam is one of the two or three most
>wonderful cities, I think; I could very easily live there.
>And the coffee is simply the best I've *ever* had, other
>than what I make at home.
I would suggest also some more bizarre alternatives, like Varig (Brazil).
Amsterdam is wonderful to visit, a city which seems completely animated day
and night with odd corners and interesting smells (for those of us who
like to "get lost" in a city on foot to learn it).
>>In Amsterdam, stay in a youth
>>hostel, or stay in a hotel in another city and ride the train. (There
>>are trains all night long to all major cities in the West.) Use public
>>transportation -- it's cheap, safe, fast, and convenient.
>Aye to all that. I stayed at a delightful small hotel run
>by gay people, the Hotel Unique (37 Kerkstraat, as I recall)
>for about $30/night (1983, sure to be more now, but not
>$170). In 1984 (with my mother), the Hotel Karolinska (quite
>posh) was $85/night.
Well, it is partially true. For the uninitiated, the trams are very
strange (raise hands: who understood the strippenkart first try?), but
the intercity trians are very easy. The metro is kind of a joke. Really
now, the city is so small a good pair of shoes will be more than adequate.
Unique, on Kerkstraat, as well as one other, are OK: about $120 a
night now, and the stairs in Unique are funny for about 30 seconds. I
believe there used to be some sort of tax based on stairwell area, so
the stairs are all (in very old buildings) astonishingly steep, and
dangerous. Unique has an excellent example of 75-degree incline stairs.
You will, if you are at all sociable, probably not use the hotel room;
I always tell the adventurous to check in their luggage at the train
station, and wing it. There is at least one all-night bath if nothing
works.
>>Or make friends fast. One real good friend is all you need.
>
>I would rate it the easiest of all cities -- bar none --
>that I've been in to make friends. The Dutch seem to me
>friendlier than Americans, who are (correctly, I think) not
>notoriously reserved.
Extra friendly. Bonus points if you are : not blond. It is one of the
few cities where my black friends start to realize how tense the US
makes them vis-a-vis that all Dutch seem to be "color blind".
>In contrast to Owen and Mick, I found good food easy to come
>by in Amsterdam. There was a fish place (Sluizers?) that
>was quite good. The Indonesian food, though expensive (so
>splurge at least once!) is *quite* fabulous.
I've eaten at that fish restaurant, and I must say it was good, but
"ordinarily" good. I found day-to-day Dutch food fairly unrewarding.
Favorites: smoked eels (whole); meat-puree spiced fried croquettes;
white-bread cheeze sandwitches; hamburgers. You would do best to ask a
Dutch person to recommend a restaurant. Then, of course, after a busy
day of looking at Delftware Dildo-shaped bongs, a quiche at "Downtown"
is absolutely perfect.
>Gotta get back there before I shuffle off the planet.
Come with me for Queen's day...
Other notes: Marijuana is definitely "illegal" though the laws are
officially not enforced. Prostitution is legal. One hears that the
current city council in Amsterdam is considering officially not
enforcing Cocaine laws (uninteresting to the extent that I don't ever
use coke, but it is a quite "hard" drug in the context of modern Dutch
drug policy; Amsterdam controlls itself more than the Netherlands
does). The bicyclists are vicious unrepentant killers, and I'll
arm-wrestle anyone who attempts to refute the fact. Visit the "Condom
Museum" on Warmoesstraat, and bring home vaginal condoms to your
helplessly heavy-hung friends in the States. Do not eat more than 1
"space cake" per day, and avoid all hawkers (hotels, taxis, drugs).
You can find whatever they sell more cheaply yourself, or by asking
anyone in virtually any bar, restaurant, coffeeshop, etc.
Sandra Hereld
a male type motsser, instead of a female type motsser...
>US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.
Sandy...Strong enough for a man, but MADE for a woman...
Melinda Shore
Everybody needs a tag line, I think.
Melinda: Both decorative *and* functional.
Anthony Berno
> Visit the "Condom
> Museum" on Warmoesstraat, and bring home vaginal condoms to your
> helplessly heavy-hung friends in the States.
Sounds like you have experience in this area... a bit off the subject,
but:
1. Do these really work for our hopelessly heavily-hung friends who like
to fuck but cannot (much to our despair) due to the unfortunate interplay
between tight condoms and inadequate blood supply?
2. Can you currently buy these in Europe?
Do tell. Given the opportunity, I'd prefer a demonstration, of course, but
for now you can just type it out.
-Anthony
George Dalton Madison
>Does this mean we can put you down for the entertainment
I'll probably simply give this event a miss.
>BBC, passing the squid eyeballs
>and the chicken feet... and who
>is getting up the nerve to go into
>Chinatown [Boston] to try a restaurant
>that severs hot and sour soup in the
>traditional manner (i.e. *with* the
>coagulated duck's blood!)
>
>[news and/or stomach pumping at 11]
I'll *DEFINITELY* give this event a miss.
() I will give up my beard when they shave it from my cold,
() dead face!
() -- Peter Thomas (From the "Razor's Anonymous" Handbook)
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John Dorrance
> | >US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.
>
> | Sandy...Strong enough for a man, but MADE for a woman...
(love it!)
>
> Everybody needs a tag line, I think.
>
>
> Melinda: Both decorative *and* functional.
John. Have it your way!
FJ!!
>I would suggest also some more bizarre alternatives, like Varig (Brazil).
Bizarre? It is one of my fathers favourite airline, and he flies a lot.
>Well, it is partially true. For the uninitiated, the trams are very
>strange (raise hands: who understood the strippenkart first try?),
Moi. But I can read the instructions on the back.
>The metro is kind of a joke.
And a bad one too.
>Really now, the city is so small a good pair of shoes will be more than
>adequate.
I don't call this place 'Toyland' for nothing...
>Extra friendly. Bonus points if you are : not blond.
Because the rest of us all are. Oh, for just one drop of
exotic blood in my veins...
> The bicyclists are vicious unrepentant killers,
Naah, we just want to get somewhere in time...you just can't deal with us.
And people, if you aren't mentioning one of the main attractions for a
motss person, I will before I leave and lick the wounds on my ego. His
telephone number is
(020) 612 2537
and he has got an answering machine with an incredibly long OGM, so you
can leave a message and I'll get in touch.
FJ!!
FJ!!
"You're wrong. The current government is a center-left coalition (or
"Roman-red, as they say). Prostitution may even be legalized in the
"not too distant future.
We'd like them to pay taxes and VAT after all.
"# But Dutch guys are impossible, even the hustlers. They have these
"# childishly beautiful faces that lead you to think they'll be open and
"# sweet and so on, but it's a fluke because they're actually closed,
"# repressed, insecure, arrogant people, all of which makes them more
"# devastating to me, for some reason. -- Dennis Cooper
Duh.
FJ!!
Eamonn McManus
>>Extra friendly. Bonus points if you are : not blond.
>Because the rest of us all are. Oh, for just one drop of
>exotic blood in my veins...
Oh well, no points for me then. Possibly I can blame my Dutch
great-grandfather for my permanent state of Blondness. (Up
until recently that was as exotic as I thought it got in my
ancestry, but my mother, who is visiting me at the moment, has
just admitted that her other grandfather was a bastard son of
the Earl of Clanrickert. So now, there's a thing.)
,
Eamonn, feeling somehow ennobled (or not)
David Stevenson
>
>I'm not normally fond of trying new
>
want to do was deal with unix.
Silly me.
FJ!!
>P.S. This is my first posting to soc.motss, so I guess this counts as an
>official demuffinification?
Oh heavens, a posting motsseur that lives in the region! Shit,
I'll lose my status as main attraction...
Zeg Peter, effe voor alle duidelijkheid: _ik_ ben hier de centrale,
togewijde, allesverbindende netwerk-buurvrouw om maar een term van
B. Kaandorp te jatten, ok? :)
FJ!!
William Tsun-Yuk Hsu
>j...@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis) writes:
>>Extra friendly. Bonus points if you are : not blond.
>Because the rest of us all are. Oh, for just one drop of
>exotic blood in my veins...
Uh oh. Does this mean all the guys I cruised at the Argos *dye* their
hair? AAARRRGGGGHHHH :-)
Btw, I beg to differ on the recommendations for accomodations. If you're
on a tight budget (or cheap, like me), you *can* find inexpensive,
livable places in, say, the Red Light District. I paid 30 (?) guilders
for a 4-person room a block from the Argos, and it was reasonable for
a few days. The key is to look at the room first, and spend a couple
hours shopping around. (Yes, FJ!!, the manager was a bit annoying, but
I've put up with worse...)
Bill
George Dalton Madison
>Fu...@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>>I'm not normally fond of trying new
>>foods and new restaurants -- when I'm in a strange city and damn
>>hungry, it's the absolute *LAST* thing I want to do.
>
>And I was under the impression that the absolute *LAST* thing you'd
>want to do was deal with unix.
Utterly irrelevant to the stated situation. In a strange
city, I'd hardly expect to have computer access -- but food
is something I would expect to deal with.
() Now, sit down, shut up, and do your fucking praying in
() private, like your shitting.
() -- Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
Nelson Minar
>In a strange city, I'd hardly expect to have computer access -- but
>food is something I would expect to deal with.
Well, that explains it - real UNIX hackers secure computer access
first, and then worry about food. You can almost always count on a
vending machine with cheetos somewhere near the machines.
--
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Pieter Hazewindus
>
>Zeg Peter, effe voor alle duidelijkheid: _ik_ ben hier de centrale,
>togewijde, allesverbindende netwerk-buurvrouw om maar een term van
>B. Kaandorp te jatten, ok? :)
You're way too young for that. Since you show everyone around town,
perhaps you could be the motss-regelneef (or geilneef, if you'd rather).
Hmmm. Writing this in English does not make it any more comprehensible
to non-Dutch speakers. Lessee, "netwerk-buurvrouw" literally means
network-woman-neighbor. Yeah, I know, what a scream. You just have to
take my word for it, it's a very funny expression.
Pieter Hazewindus pie...@cs.caltech.edu
Greg Parkinson
In article <1992Apr20....@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca>, abe...@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr20.1...@spdcc.com> j...@spdcc.com (Joseph
|> Francis) writes:
|> > Visit the "Condom
|> > Museum" on Warmoesstraat, and bring home vaginal condoms to your
|> > helplessly heavy-hung friends in the States.
|>
|> Sounds like you have experience in this area... a bit off the subject,
|> but:
|>
|> 1. Do these really work for our hopelessly heavily-hung friends who like
|> to fuck but cannot (much to our despair) due to the unfortunate interplay
|> between tight condoms and inadequate blood supply?
For people who are larger than average but not
HUGE (as in a baby's arm holding an apple) many
condom manufacturers are offering larger sizes.
These are also appropriate for people who may not
be overly long but have fat plummy heads or have
been gifted with the fat love-inspiring wedge
shape.
--
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Citibank,111 Wall Street E-Mail: g...@fig.citib.com
New York, New York 10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
Peter de Waal
>Oh heavens, a posting motsseur that lives in the region! Shit,
>I'll lose my status as main attraction...
Does this mean that we can now start planning a regional nl.motss.con? The
appropriate place would, of course, be The Cockring, with all those handsome
blond beerglass-collectors working there :-).
>Zeg Peter, effe voor alle duidelijkheid: _ik_ ben hier de centrale,
>togewijde, allesverbindende netwerk-buurvrouw om maar een term van
>B. Kaandorp te jatten, ok? :)
Ja juffrouw.
--- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam <wa...@cwi.nl> ---
Rob Foye
|> Hmmm. Writing this in English does not make it any more comprehensible
|> to non-Dutch speakers. Lessee, "netwerk-buurvrouw" literally means
|> network-woman-neighbor. Yeah, I know, what a scream. You just have to
Oh, the network Welcome Wagon Lady!
Henry Mensch
->Well, it is partially true. For the uninitiated, the trams are very
->strange (raise hands: who understood the strippenkart first try?), ...
ding!
--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc. / <he...@ads.com>
George Dalton Madison
>George Dalton Madison writes:
>>In a strange city, I'd hardly expect to have computer access -- but
>>food is something I would expect to deal with.
>
>Well, that explains it - real UNIX hackers secure computer access
>first, and then worry about food. You can almost always count on a
>vending machine with cheetos somewhere near the machines.
Yet another reason to avoid UN*X, if it rots your brain *THIS*
badly. [I mean, I knew it *DID*, but I was unaware that it could
ravage the mind to this extreme!]
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() -- Dave Lankford, "Bearhunter"
Tane' Tachyon
In article <1992Apr20....@intelhf.hf.intel.com> hutch@hutch (Stephen Hutchison) writes:
>They do have some real good strange stuff - "Don't ask what it is, eat it,
>you like it." "What is it?" "beef stomachs with ground taro root, cook
>is being creative today"
That's probably the only thing I really miss about eating meat --
not having to ask. I've been a vegetarian for 16 years at this
point, and whereas the loss of any individual meat dish is more
than made up for by feelings of superiority :-), the loss of
innocence in always having to ask is something else. It's like
never being able to go to a movie unless you read a review
giving away part of the plot first. Or maybe I'm just being
silly.
And yes, as a matter of fact I *have* hung around with people
who like to go around saying "vegetarians only eat one kind of
meat!" :-)
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William Tsun-Yuk Hsu
>That's probably the only thing I really miss about eating meat --
>not having to ask.
Ah, you just haven't been going to the right restaurants. For example,
there's a dried Chinese herb used in some dishes which looks like a
caterpillar. I think whatever the insect is lays eggs on the plant,
and when the grub dies, it becomes absorbed by the plant, or some
such convolution...
Bill, always eager to jump into a "disgusting foods" discussion
Tim Pierce
>Dedicated UNIX professionals have their own portable workstations so
>that the only thing that needs to be secured is net access. This
>greatly expands the number of vending machines one can camp near.
Especially if there's a phone jack nearby.
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pigs." -- overheard at Sydney Mardi Gras
Jess Anderson
In article <1992May4.1...@amhux2.amherst.edu>
twpi...@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>Especially if there's a phone jack nearby.
Well, there's one in CA and one in NY and probably others
too, but their lines are probably busy.
Donn F. Pedro
>
>>Dedicated UNIX professionals have their own portable workstations so
>>that the only thing that needs to be secured is net access. This
>>greatly expands the number of vending machines one can camp near.
>
>Especially if there's a phone jack nearby.
Don't matter for us cellular weenies. All we need is somewhere in
the service area. My 'kit' weighs about 40 lbs - phone, laptop,
batteries, charger and all.
Donn Pedro ...................{uunet, sequent}!uswnvg!dfpedro.
Seek dis-illusionment.