uh-oh: blow jobs (and cunnilingus) can cause cancer
ailuropoda melanoleuca torontonensis
a study reported in the current issue of *new scientist* reports that
people who have had more than five oral-sex partners in their lifetime
are 250% more likely to have throat cancer than those who do not have
oral sex.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11819?DCMP=NLC-nletter&nsref=dn11819
(study done at Johns Hopkins, reported in the New England Journal of
Medicine)
correlation is not causation, and all that. I don't think it'll put a
significant crimp in my leisure activities, but something else ganging
up on us non-virgins.
manly panda
Tim McDaniel
ailuropoda melanoleuca torontonensis <chris....@utoronto.ca> wrote:
>people who have had more than five oral-sex partners in their
>lifetime are 250% more likely to have throat cancer than those who do
>not have oral sex.
I guess heavy smoking causes cancer: smoking peen, smoking tobacco,
don't make no never mind.
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Tim McDaniel, tm...@panix.com
Ellen Evans
ailuropoda melanoleuca torontonensis <chris....@utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>a study reported in the current issue of *new scientist* reports that
>people who have had more than five oral-sex partners in their lifetime
>are 250% more likely to have throat cancer than those who do not have
>oral sex.
And this:
The new findings should encourage people to consistently use condoms
during oral sex as this could protect against HPV, the team says.
Well, that works for *some* people.
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Ellen Evans If my life wasn't funny, it would
je...@panix.com just be true, and that's unacceptable.
Carrie Fisher
Tim McDaniel
Ellen Evans <je...@panix.com> wrote:
>In article <1178825017.0...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>ailuropoda melanoleuca torontonensis <chris....@utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>no, I'm not making this up.
>>
>>a study reported in the current issue of *new scientist* reports that
>>people who have had more than five oral-sex partners in their lifetime
>>are 250% more likely to have throat cancer than those who do not have
>>oral sex.
>
>And this:
>The new findings should encourage people to consistently use condoms
>during oral sex as this could protect against HPV, the team says.
>
>Well, that works for *some* people.
Are dental dams as commonly available as condoms are? Can you cut a
condom from base to tip to make a dental dam?
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Tim McDaniel, tm...@panix.com
Lee Rudolph
>In article <f1vuh7$h4d$1...@reader2.panix.com>,
>Ellen Evans <je...@panix.com> wrote:
>>In article <1178825017.0...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
>>ailuropoda melanoleuca torontonensis <chris....@utoronto.ca> wrote:
>>>no, I'm not making this up.
>>>
>>>a study reported in the current issue of *new scientist* reports that
>>>people who have had more than five oral-sex partners in their lifetime
>>>are 250% more likely to have throat cancer than those who do not have
>>>oral sex.
>>
>>And this:
>>The new findings should encourage people to consistently use condoms
>>during oral sex as this could protect against HPV, the team says.
>>
>>Well, that works for *some* people.
>
>Are dental dams as commonly available as condoms are?
I can't remember a single drugstore I've shopped in, in the
US, or many "convenience stores" either, in which there are not
large displays of condoms. The only drugstore where I've
ever *noticed* dental dams for sale (at least, I think that's
what they were...they were packaged) was in Paris. (And note
that in France every pharmacy has a condom machine on the wall
outside; well, at least in the sticks, they do.) I have
no idea whether there are dental-dam vending machines in
women's restrooms in US bars but I believe there often are in
men's restrooms. I've been in (men's and unisex) restrooms on
college campuses in the US with condom vending machines, and,
again, I have never seen a dental-dam vending machine.
So, I'd guess the answer is "no".
>Can you cut a
>condom from base to tip to make a dental dam?
Non-abstinence-based sex education materials (oh, God, for a
world in which that could credibly be parsed "(non-abstinence)-based"
instead of "non-(abstinence-based); or even for a world in which
"abstinence-based sex education" was unheard of) often say so.
Slicing up gloves (*not* your best kid gloves, please) is also
mentioned. It all seems rather unreasonable, but needs must
when the devil drives.
By the way, when I read this breaking news (which wasn't at
the panda's URL--so I don't know if his version of the story
mentioned this), the presumed (perhaps proved) vector is HPV:
so future generations innoculated against that may have a
reduced risk of this particular consequence of sex.
Lee Rudolph
ailuropoda melanoleuca torontonensis
> >Can you cut a
> >condom from base to tip to make a dental dam?
> [...]Slicing up gloves (*not* your best kid gloves, please) is also
> mentioned. It all seems rather unreasonable, but needs must
> when the devil drives.
if oral sex with a condom is like unto having a bath with yer socks
on, oral sex with bits of cut-up-dishwashing-gloves intervening would
be like oral sex with thick heavy work socks intervening. not quite
MY kink.
> By the way, when I read this breaking news (which wasn't at
> the panda's URL--so I don't know if his version of the story
> mentioned this), the presumed (perhaps proved) vector is HPV:
> so future generations innoculated against that may have a
> reduced risk of this particular consequence of sex.
it does mention HPV
manly the last time I used gloves for fashion rather than warmth was
in the pride parade when impersonating Her Majesty and they were
borrowed so I'm not cutting THEMapart panda
D Lewis
>
>... the last time I used gloves for fashion rather than warmth was
>in the pride parade when impersonating Her Majesty ...
OR Helen Mirren, depending on the observer's perspective?
D Lewis
>
>I can't remember a single drugstore I've shopped in, in the
>US, or many "convenience stores" either, in which there are not
>large displays of condoms. The only drugstore where I've
>ever *noticed* dental dams for sale (at least, I think that's
>again, I have never seen a dental-dam vending machine.
>
That's right. Dental dams are impossible to find.
Some may recall that in the early days of the AIDS epidemic we were
advised that Saran Wrap made a good substitute for dental dams.
If you think the image of a naked guy with a rugby player's physique
squatting over another guy's face is striking, imagine that same scene
with a half-yard of plastic wrap covering the lower guy's face like a
veil.
Lee Rudolph
>Some may recall that in the early days of the AIDS epidemic we were
>advised that Saran Wrap made a good substitute for dental dams.
^
non-microwavable
Lee Rudolph
Suitably Denatured
>if oral sex with a condom is like unto having a bath with yer socks
>on, oral sex with bits of cut-up-dishwashing-gloves intervening would
>be like oral sex with thick heavy work socks intervening. not quite
>MY kink.
Latex gloves -- medical, not dishwashing.
--
Piglet, and the thumbs can be most helpful
ailuropoda melanoleuca torontonensis
> That's right. Dental dams are impossible to find.
>
> Some may recall that in the early days of the AIDS epidemic we were
> advised that Saran Wrap made a good substitute for dental dams.
>
> If you think the image of a naked guy with a rugby player's physique
> squatting over another guy's face is striking, imagine that same scene
> with a half-yard of plastic wrap covering the lower guy's face like a
> veil.
THIS BAG IS NOT A TOY
IT CAN CAUSE SUFFOCATION
DO NOT ALLOW CHILDREN TO PLAY WITH THIS BAG UNSUPERVISED
the image is indeed striking, but y'know, gravity being what it is, if
I wuz going to put plastic wrap(*) between rimmer and rimee, I think
I'd ensure that the face-squatting posture was not used, but instead
the rimmee was -um- closer to the planet and the rimmer was further
away from the planet. (hevvings what a convoulted way of avoiding
using "top" and "bottom" in possibly confusing way).
If I wuz going to use plastic wrap.
(*)non-microwaveable, as Lee correctly pointed out. the microwave-
friendly stuff has weeny holes to let steam out, and they're MORE than
big enough to allow -er- biohazards through.
but then again, monty python and the gang (as is so often the case)
have an interesting take on face-sitting:
http://simplythebest.net/sounds/MP3/MP3_files/movie_MP3_files/sit_on_my_face.mp3
crouching chemist, hidden panda
(so to speak)
Gwendolyn Alden Dean
> Are dental dams as commonly available as condoms are? Can you cut a
> condom from base to tip to make a dental dam?
Dental dams are too small and too thick. Saran wrap is the stuff.
Gwendolyn
Gwendolyn Alden Dean
It doesn't matter. The pores in microwaveable Saran wrap are far too
small to let viruses through.
Gwendolyn
Jed Davis
>> [dennis]
>>
>> If you think the image of a naked guy with a rugby player's physique
>> squatting over another guy's face is striking, imagine that same scene
>> with a half-yard of plastic wrap covering the lower guy's face like a
>> veil.
>
> THIS BAG IS NOT A TOY
> IT CAN CAUSE SUFFOCATION
> DO NOT ALLOW CHILDREN TO PLAY WITH THIS BAG UNSUPERVISED
WARNING
1. Use this product one person at a time.
[...]
3. Check that all bolts screws and knobs are tight every three
months or as needed.
4. Do not overturn back tilt knob when decreasing tension.
5. Dispose of packing material properly. Do not use plastic cover
as head covering. It may cause suffocation.
[...]
8. Use mild detergent only for cleaning.
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Lee Rudolph
I was amending the recollection of the advice then given, rather than
making any claims of fact about Saran Wrap. I'm glad to here that about
the pores, however.
Lee Rudolph
ailuropoda melanoleuca torontonensis
> 8. Use mild detergent only for cleaning.
awww, geee! and i wanted to use mild detergent as a lubricant, and
now you tell me it's only for cleaning! you're such a party pooper!
manly amazing how slippery baby shampoo can be in the shower panda
Suitably Denatured
I thought glyde dams were quite nice. Back in the day.
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Piglet
Jim Heckman
On 11-May-2007, lrud...@panix.com (Lee Rudolph)
wrote in message <f21hbp$39f$1...@panix2.panix.com>:
You're glad to where?
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Jim Heckman
Gwendolyn Alden Dean
But they're not dental dams, darlin'. They're made for oral sex. And
they're a lovely texture but not so transparent and *quite* expensive.
Gwendolyn
Suitably Denatured
>Suitably Denatured wrote:
>> Gwendolyn Alden Dean <gd...@cornell.edu>, in article
><f20ntd$oeu$1...@ruby.cit.cornell.edu>, dixit:
>>> Tim McDaniel wrote:
>>>> Are dental dams as commonly available as condoms are? Can you cut a
>>>> condom from base to tip to make a dental dam?
>>> Dental dams are too small and too thick. Saran wrap is the stuff.
>> I thought glyde dams were quite nice. Back in the day.
>But they're not dental dams, darlin'. They're made for oral sex.
Excellent point.
>And they're a lovely texture but not so transparent and *quite*
>expensive.
Mmm, such a nice texture. I bought a case, back in the day.
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Piglet, but, yeah, saran wrap now