Aesthetic Realism -- jog my memory
Lars Eighner
itself as an anti-racist organization. Is my memory going or aren't
they really a major homophobia organization?
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Lars Eighner
the lovely and talented ande...@facstaff.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
broadcast on soc.motss:
|Lars Eighner:
|
|>I just saw an ad on Bravo for Aesthetic Realism. It is
|>portraying itself as an anti-racist organization. Is my memory
|>going or aren't they really a major homophobia organization?
|
Well, I kept searching and came up with a reference to a 1978
NY Times ad in which they claimed to be the "cure" for
homosexuality. Their own web site is on the slowest server
in the world, but -- not too surprisingly -- I could not turn
up any evidence that they are aware the controversy ever
existed. However, there seems to be much sexuality stuff
on their site which has a sinister ring to it, if you remember
the history. Does anyone know if they have renounced their
evil ways or have merely learned to be more discreet?
It seems to me they came to the fore again in the 80s,
disrupting some AIDS conference with the claim that the
thing to do about AIDS was to take their homo cure, but
I haven't located the reference to that (The AIDS
Circus, perhaps).
Gosh, I've got a mind like a steel trap for stuff that happened
twenty years ago. Now where did I put my keys?
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Lars Eighner
the lovely and talented "kevxu" <ke...@worldnet.att.net> broadcast on soc.motss:
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|Lars Eighner wrote in message ...
|>I just saw an ad on Bravo for Aesthetic Realism. It is portraying
|>itself as an anti-racist organization. Is my memory going or aren't
|>they really a major homophobia organization?
|
|Aesthetic Realism and it purported to "cure" homosexuality.
|Seems to me it met in Greenwhich Village somewhere.
|There was a shrink named Edmund Bergler who was
|pushing an all-homosexuals-can-be-cured-if-only-
|they-are-willing shtick in the 50s, but can't say for
|sure if AR was his thing. Bergler's wife carried on
|with his "work" after he croaked. They were nuts
|of a near Phelpsian stripe.
|
|Bergler published a few books, and I'm sure if
|he was the AR founder he'd be pushing it in his
|publications.
Well it is supposed to be based on the writings of Eli
Siegel -- and that is none to encouraging:
"Eli Siegel perceives homosexuality in these terms:"
"l. All homosexuality arises from contempt of the world,
from not liking it sufficiently."
And so forth.
The New York Times, ad (April 23, 1978)
was headlined "We Have Changed from Homosexuality,"
and was signed by 44 men and 6 women.
It really irks me that the TV ad runs on Bravo (www.bravotv.com)
which is owned by Rainbow something-or-other (Media?)
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kevxu
Lars Eighner wrote in message ...
>I just saw an ad on Bravo for Aesthetic Realism. It is portraying
>itself as an anti-racist organization. Is my memory going or aren't
>they really a major homophobia organization?
There was a cult-like group in NYC in the 50s called
Aesthetic Realism and it purported to "cure" homosexuality.
Seems to me it met in Greenwhich Village somewhere.
There was a shrink named Edmund Bergler who was
pushing an all-homosexuals-can-be-cured-if-only-
they-are-willing shtick in the 50s, but can't say for
sure if AR was his thing. Bergler's wife carried on
with his "work" after he croaked. They were nuts
of a near Phelpsian stripe.
Bergler published a few books, and I'm sure if
he was the AR founder he'd be pushing it in his
publications.
Jack
Gene Ward Smith
> In our last episode <7pr7dk$he2$1...@news.doit.wisc.edu>,
> the lovely and talented ande...@facstaff.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
> broadcast on soc.motss:
> |Lars Eighner:
> |>I just saw an ad on Bravo for Aesthetic Realism. It is
> |>portraying itself as an anti-racist organization. Is my memory
> |>going or aren't they really a major homophobia organization?
> |It's an educational philosophy; do a search on "Eli Siegel".
>
> Well, I kept searching and came up with a reference to a 1978
> NY Times ad in which they claimed to be the "cure" for
> homosexuality.
So they did. I'm afraid there's a bit more to these characters than
an "educational philosphy".
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Matthew Melmon
Now, it would seem to me, that if you could teach people how
not to be homosexual, you could teach them how to be (I try, oh
do I try!). If one implies the other, then should we really be
too upset by claims of a "cure?" For that matter, it would seem
that far and away the best response to this particular brand
of evangelical nuttery is to offer training (recruitment, if
you will) on how to be a poof (in order to save the planet,
naturally).
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Brad Macdonald
> In article <RKTv3AwZ...@io.com>, eig...@io.com wrote:
> > the lovely and talented ande...@facstaff.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
> > broadcast on soc.motss:
> >
> > Well, I kept searching and came up with a reference to a 1978
> > NY Times ad in which they claimed to be the "cure" for
> > homosexuality.
>
> So they did. I'm afraid there's a bit more to these characters than
> an "educational philosphy".
"Victim Of The Press" buttons, IIRC.
Brad