My bad - I thought The Washington Blade et.al were powerhouses
Dennis Lewis
Washington Blade, Genre, and the Southern Voice and David in Atlanta,
is no more.
<http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/southern-voice-longtime-gay-199719.html>
I guess I was naive enough to think that gay publications would be
immune to print journalism's decline. The gay population is generally
the most erudite segment of a city's population and advertisements in
gay publications are still the best way to reach gay and lesbian
consumers.
On each visit to the Parliament Resort in Augusta I'd be able to pick
up two or three different issues of David. I knew the magazine had
high production costs because it was all-color on glossy paper. But no
issue appeared to be wanting for advertising.
Yet Mike Fleming, who had been editor of David for four years, told
the Atlanta Journal Constitution "things have been terrible for at
least five years." Fleming said he'd been laid off from David in
January because "they literally couldn't afford me anymore."
Kevin Michael Vail
d...@sprynet.com (Dennis Lewis) wrote:
> I was shocked to read today that Windows Media, parent company of The
> Washington Blade, Genre, and the Southern Voice and David in Atlanta,
> is no more.
>
> <http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/southern-voice-longtime-gay-199719.html>
[]
David sent me an email at work today...the Blade was the only place he
advertised in print, and he called to make a change to the ad, and the
ad guy said "Sorry, we're gone." He's not sure what to do now.
--
Kevin Michael Vail | a billion stars go spinning through the night,
ke...@vaildc.net � | blazing high above your head.
�. . . . . . . . . | But _in_ you is the presence that
� . . . . . . . .� | will be, when all the stars are dead.
�. . . . . . . . . | � � (Rainer Maria Rilke)
JTEM
d...@sprynet.com (Dennis Lewis) wrote:
> I guess I was naive enough to think that gay publications
> would be immune to print journalism's decline.
Who says that they're not?
Businesses go under for a lot of reasons, so there's no
reason to base your life on just one of them.
"Mismanagement" drives many companies under. Or at
least it used to, way back before the government started
paying bad companies for being bad.
Some companies are driven under intentionally. I recall,
way back in the 1980s, some guy bought a controlling
interest in Eastern Airlines and immediately set about
bankrupting it. Why? Because his plan all along was to
break it apart and sell all the pieces, which were worth
more than the whole. So, might as well loot the damn
thing first!
What's more, it wasn't the first time he'd done such a
thing. In fact, he had previously taken Continental from
"Giant" of the airline industry to "Bankruptcy," before
selling off all the pieces.
Sun Microsystems bought "Cobalt" -- the makers of
what was called a "Linux Server Appliance" just so
they could shut their doors. Why? Because when you
sell Unix systems for tens of thousands of dollars you
don't want anyone telling your customers that they can
buy an all-in-one idiot proof server for about a thousand
bucks.
"Clear Channel" did their best to drive "Air America" under.
You can argue all you want, but the simple fact is that
there's nobody in the radio business -- and very few outside
of it -- that thinks Clear Channel didn't know what it was
doing when it secured the rights to "Air America" in virtually
all of the important markets, and then deprived the network
of it's greatest source of revenue -- "Drive Time."
The vast majority of radio income comes from "Drive Time,"
which is essentially the morning & afternoon rush hour.
Clear Channel preempted Air America's drive time talent
(and their drive time revenue along with it) with syndicated
"Talent" not associated with Air America.
One was that Ed Shultz idiot. You know, the fake liberal
who had left the GOP on the same bus as Bill O'Reilly...
There's lots of reasons why they may have gone under,
everything from the sinister to the blah, so there's no sense
latching on to only one... especially when the story itself
appears to blame management for over-buying.
David W. Fenton
news:kevin-A35CC7....@news.eternal-september.org:
> David sent me an email at work today...the Blade was the only
> place he advertised in print, and he called to make a change to
> the ad, and the ad guy said "Sorry, we're gone." He's not sure
> what to do now.
I read somewhere that the parties involved are trying to
reconstitute as a smaller organization in order to continue
publishing something. I'd expect the Blade would be the main thing
they'd want to get back in business as I'd guess it's both the least
expensive to produce and has the widest circulation of the
publications that were under the failed company's umbrella.
--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
Dennis Lewis
>
>I read somewhere that the parties involved are trying to
>reconstitute as a smaller organization in order to continue
Things I picked up today from various blogs:
* The sale of the South Florida Blade and Houston Voice was completed
prior to Windows Media collapse, and they continue publishing.
* A publisher based in Falls Church, Va., was negotiating to buy the
Washington Blade and thought things were proceeding swimmingly until
he, too, got the surprise news that Windows Media had just shut down.
(This guy told the Washington Post he would kept the Blade staff
intact.)
* The Blade staff intends to regroup and launch their own publication.
(Maybe they can get some backing from gay pundits -- how much spare
cash does A. Sullivan have these days? I wouldn't necessarily object
to investing in a gay publication, but I'd have to "follow" my
investment by taking some sort of a backroom role. No, not *that* type
of backroom -- page layout and copy editing.)
* The Washington Post said the Blade's circulation is 23,000. That
sounds rather small for a city with Washington's demographics -- and
the Blade's regular readership should encompass an area extending from
Hagerstown to the west to Harrisburg to the north to Salisbury to the
east and south to Richmond.
ailuropoda melanoleuca torontonensis
> * The Blade staff intends to regroup and launch their own publication.
> (Maybe they can get some backing from gay pundits -- how much spare
> cash does A. Sullivan have these days? I wouldn't necessarily object
> to investing in a gay publication, but I'd have to "follow" my
> investment by taking some sort of a backroom role. No, not *that* type
> of backroom -- page layout and copy editing.)
yeah, right. of COURSE that's what you meant, dennis.
too many lustful comments have, I'se afeared, characterised you as
someone who would be HAPPY to have a more -er- stimulating backroom
role, with/without the cheezoid disco soundtrack.
manly colour me sceptical panda
David W. Fenton
news:4b032e8...@news.east.earthlink.net:
> * The Washington Post said the Blade's circulation is 23,000. That
> sounds rather small for a city with Washington's demographics --
> and the Blade's regular readership should encompass an area
> extending from Hagerstown to the west to Harrisburg to the north
> to Salisbury to the east and south to Richmond.
I always assumed the NY Blade was from the same company, as the
editorial page seemed to be a reprint of the DC version.
NYC has never at any time that I've lived here had anything
approaching a decent gay paper.
Now I think it's pretty much irrelevant.
David Kaye
>I guess I was naive enough to think that gay publications would be
>immune to print journalism's decline.
Wasn't the purpose of gay liberation (anybody remember that term?) to make
gay-specific institutions obsolete? The gay press was conceived because the
mainstream press ignored GBLT news. That's not the case anymore. In fact,
the GBLT stories tend to appear in the mainstream press before they appear in
the gay press.
>The gay population is generally
>the most erudite segment of a city's population and advertisements in
>gay publications are still the best way to reach gay and lesbian
>consumers.
Erudite? You'd hardly know it based on the tastes of readers of gay
publications. The Guide (from Toronto and Boston) used to have articles about
discrimination, social ethos, and even etymology of various GBLT-identified
words! No more. Since their sale, they've gone glossy, have increased the
ads for the sex clubs and poolside resorts, and cut back on the erudite
articles. And it's working. Page count is up.
--
"You're in probably the wickedest, most corrupt city, most
Godless city in America." -- Fr Mullen, "San Francisco"
Arne Adolfsen
> d...@sprynet.com (Dennis Lewis) wrote in
> news:4b032e8...@news.east.earthlink.net:
> > * The Washington Post said the Blade's circulation is 23,000. That
> > sounds rather small for a city with Washington's demographics --
> > and the Blade's regular readership should encompass an area
> > extending from Hagerstown to the west to Harrisburg to the north
> > to Salisbury to the east and south to Richmond.
Gersh-o-mania! And Los Angeles' demographics extend
from Santa Barbara to the north to San Diego/TJ to
the south to Phoenix in the east and we ain't go no
golldarn' paper of our own! Well, not since the
Advocate moved to the Frisco Bay area and became a
feeder for the est movement.
> I always assumed the NY Blade was from the same company, as the
> editorial page seemed to be a reprint of the DC version.
The Washington Blade always struck me as an
important-in-its-own-eyes bar rag, sorta like LA's
Frontiers. Or Boston's Bay Windows. But *New York*
Blade? Huh. Whodathunkit?
> NYC has never at any time that I've lived here had anything
> approaching a decent gay paper.
The Native was pretty good back in the 1970s and
early early early '80s before its owner decided that
AIDS was caused by CIA experiments on butterflies.
Or something. He lost his marbles entirely.
> Now I think it's pretty much irrelevant.
I remember when Hell's Kitchen was called, um,
Hell's Kitchen. When Times Square was almost the
sleaziest place I'd ever seen -- and I'd been to
both Tijuana and Ciudad Juarez before then. When a
two bedroom apartment rented by my cousin and her
roommate on 10th Ave and 23rd St overlooking the
Empire Diner (is it still there?) was CHEAP --
cheaper than anything in Queens -- because it was in
the middle of nowhere. What's that neighborhood
called now? Some faux London-ish name like
Marylebone or Spitalfields or something. Can you
help me remember, Davey?
Arne
JTEM
Arne Adolfsen <adolf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> The Native was pretty good back in the 1970s and
> early early early '80s before its owner decided that
> AIDS was caused by CIA experiments on butterflies.
> Or something. He lost his marbles entirely.
Not really. And I say that knowing it's considered an
invitation to go mental by every howling imbecile on
usenet.
As a "Kooky Conspiracy Theory" affectionado, I must
point out that the two prevalent AIDS conspiracy theories
simply don't rate in the "Kooky" department.
Then again, their "Conspiracy" is usually (though not
always) limited to a cover-up. Which is to say, they
don't advance the conclusion that it was intentional, even
if it was man-made.
The domestic theory is based entirely on a Hepatitis-B
vaccine that was placed in circulation around the exact
same time that HIV had to enter the gay community in
the late 1970s.
http://www.rinf.com/news/nov05/broch.jpg
It's no secret that vaccines had been responsible for
spreading diseases in the past. In fact, back during WWII,
the U.S. Army gave 50,000 men Hepatitis through
vaccinations, because they were developed from the blood
of donors which were sometimes tainted:
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=3043777
(Skip to the fourth paragraph)
Anyhow, you should see where this is going: You have
a known conduit (vaccines) zeroed in on exactly the
right target (gay men whose behavior places them at
risk of Hepatitis-B) at just about the exact time that
AIDS starts spreading in the gay community...
In fact, the initial test for AIDS was actually
developed for screening out Hepatitis-B in blood
collection (gay AIDS and Hepatitis victims shared
identical demographics).
: Background : The value of the test for antibody to hepatitis
: B core antigen (anti-HBc) as a surrogate screening assay
: in the time before sensitive, virus-specific screening tests
: were available has been well established. There is
: significant debate, however, about the residual value of
: anti-HBc screening after the implementation of human
: immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-, humanT-lymphotropic virus
: (HTLV)-, and hepatitis C virus (HCV)-specific assays and,
: in particular, about its utility as a lifestyle marker to
: identify persons at risk for retrovirus infections.
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=3043777
> I remember when Hell's Kitchen was called, um,
> Hell's Kitchen.
If you don't regret not buying up as much real estate
as you could back then, you're either very rich or
very crazy.
> When Times Square was almost the
> sleaziest place I'd ever seen --
Almost?
Arne Adolfsen
> Arne Adolfsen <adolf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > I remember when Hell's Kitchen was called, um,
> > Hell's Kitchen.
> If you don't regret not buying up as much real estate
> as you could back then, you're either very rich or
> very crazy.
I was very young and dirt poor then. A few years
after my first visit to NYC, a friend of a friend
moved into a "single" on 9th and 43rd that was so
small that a single bed occupied the entire room --
the door banged into it when it was opened -- the
kitchen was a hotplate and toaster oven with a cheap
bar fridge shoved into a corner and the bathroom
would have made the El Paso Greyhound Bus Station's
men's room proud.
> > When Times Square was almost the
> > sleaziest place I'd ever seen --
> Almost?
I'd already been to Tijuana, El Paso and Ciudad
Juarez by then. But I admit that ascending from the
subway to a blindingly fluorescent and strobe-lit
display of plastique-titted go-go girls dressed in
fringe with assorted dildo/vibrator accessories in
Times Square porno emporia was almost too much for
me.
Arne
Lee Rudolph
>The Native was pretty good back in the 1970s and
>early early early '80s before its owner decided that
>AIDS was caused by CIA experiments on butterflies.
>Or something. He lost his marbles entirely.
>
>> Now I think it's pretty much irrelevant.
>
>I remember when Hell's Kitchen was called, um,
>Hell's Kitchen. When Times Square was almost the
>sleaziest place I'd ever seen -- and I'd been to
>both Tijuana and Ciudad Juarez before then. When a
>two bedroom apartment rented by my cousin and her
>roommate on 10th Ave and 23rd St overlooking the
>Empire Diner (is it still there?) was CHEAP --
>cheaper than anything in Queens -- because it was in
>the middle of nowhere. What's that neighborhood
>called now? Some faux London-ish name like
>Marylebone or Spitalfields or something. Can you
>help me remember, Davey?
"Butterfly Gardens"?
I've never been to Tijuana or Ciudad Juarez, but I did
stay at the (near-) Times Square YMCA once in December
1965. Not that I'd (have) known(n) sleaze from Shinola.
Lee Rudolph
Dennis Lewis
>
>... the GBLT stories tend to appear in the mainstream press before they appear in
>the gay press.
Yet the mainstream press won't report *anything* embarrassing to a
Republican politician unless enough left-leaning bloggers create so
much noise that CNN and Fox News can't ignore it. ("Harriet -- do you
hear something?" "No, Ozzie, not a thing.")
>Erudite? You'd hardly know it based on the tastes of readers of gay
>publications. ...
"Erudite" in the sense that gays are generally able to converse
knowledgeably about more than just the weather -- and do a critical
evaluation before being sucked in by a conspiracy theory. Good God, no
one in the gay community is going around saying that Levi Johnston
would make a great politician just because he has nice tits.
----------------- ----------------- -----------------
MY PC: I seem to have been charged with the rather urgent task of
finding a file concerning a Levi Johnston Ass. Am I at the correct IP
address?
PLAYGIRL'S SERVER: Yeah, but you're a little early.
JTEM
Arne Adolfsen <adolf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > When Times Square was almost the
> > > sleaziest place I'd ever seen --
> > Almost?
>
> I'd already been to Tijuana, El Paso and Ciudad
> Juarez by then. But I admit that ascending from the
> subway to a blindingly fluorescent and strobe-lit
> display of plastique-titted go-go girls dressed in
> fringe with assorted dildo/vibrator accessories in
> Times Square porno emporia was almost too much for
> me.
A local writer here claimed that, before they cleaned it
up, he entered a restroom in Times Square and a young
(Hispanic?) man offered to have his very much younger
brother blow him, for a price.
As a kid I didn't know what to make of it, but as an
adult I can't figure out why he would even go into a
restroom in a area with THAT kind of reputation, when
alternatives were a subway stop away.
>
> Arne
JTEM
JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's no secret that vaccines had been responsible for
> spreading diseases in the past. In fact, back during WWII,
> the U.S. Army gave 50,000 men Hepatitis through
> vaccinations, because they were developed from the blood
> of donors which were sometimes tainted:
>
> http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=3043777
> (Skip to the fourth paragraph)
Oops, wrong URL! Here's the correct one (and you still need
to skip to the 4th paragraph):
http://profiles.nlm.nih.gov/LW/Views/Exhibit/narrative/disease.html
> Anyhow, you should see where this is going: You have
> a known conduit (vaccines) zeroed in on exactly the
> right target (gay men whose behavior places them at
> risk of Hepatitis-B) at just about the exact time that
> AIDS starts spreading in the gay community...
>
> In fact, the initial test for AIDS was actually
> developed for screening out Hepatitis-B in blood
> collection (gay AIDS and Hepatitis victims shared
> identical demographics).
>
> : Background : The value of the test for antibody to hepatitis
> : B core antigen (anti-HBc) as a surrogate screening assay
> : in the time before sensitive, virus-specific screening tests
> : were available has been well established. There is
> : significant debate, however, about the residual value of
> : anti-HBc screening after the implementation of human
> : immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-, humanT-lymphotropic virus
> : (HTLV)-, and hepatitis C virus (HCV)-specific assays and,
> : in particular, about its utility as a lifestyle marker to
> : identify persons at risk for retrovirus infections.http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=3043777
David Kaye
>Yet the mainstream press won't report *anything* embarrassing to a
>Republican politician unless enough left-leaning bloggers create so
>much noise [....]
Huh? It's the mainstream press that are constantly outing
Republican politicians and Jesus creep preachers who are bedding prostitutes
in motel rooms, etc.
>"Erudite" in the sense that gays are generally able to converse
>knowledgeably about more than just the weather -- and do a critical
>evaluation before being sucked in by a conspiracy theory.
Bullshit of the first order. I will concede that gay men are of a slight
advantage in that discrimination makes one more acutely aware of one's
surroundings, but I have met far too many gay men who are totally clueless.
Dennis Lewis
>
>... he entered a restroom in Times Square and a young
>(Hispanic?) man offered to have his very much younger
Well, gee, why did the older brother have to take a cut? If the
younger brother wanted to suck cock so much, why couldn't he have done
his own sales pitch? And what was the age gap between the brothers?
This story would be a lot more enjoyable if the older brother was 28
or 29 and the younger brother was 20. And if the younger brother would
agree to take off his pants and do it "69" so you could look at his
ass while he was sucking you, even if that meant paying extra. Was the
older brother open to a counteroffer if you'd rather suck him instead?
(Wait, who was going to suck who here? This is getting convoluted...)
JTEM
d...@sprynet.com (Dennis Lewis) wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:56:28 -0800 (PST), "JTEM" wrote:
>
> >... he entered a restroom in Times Square and a young
> >(Hispanic?) man offered to have his very much younger
> >brother blow him, for a price. ...
> Well, gee, why did the older brother have to take
> a cut? If the younger brother wanted to suck cock
> so much, why couldn't he have done his own sales
> pitch? And what was the age gap between the
> brothers?
Well the younger one was a pre-teen. Let's just leave it
at that.
Werewolfy
> Before they cleaned it
> up, I entered a restroom in Times Square and a young
> (Hispanic?) man offered to have his very much younger
> brother blow me, for a price.
>
> As a kid I didn't know what to make of it, but as an
> adult I can't figure out why he would even go into a
> restroom in a area with THAT kind of reputation, when
> alternatives were a subway stop away. I let him though. He was only 10 and pretty
Werewolfy
You disgusting bastard
John Harshman
talk.origins.
Werewolfy
> OK, now you're stalking. Go away. Or at least stop crossposting to
> talk.origins
Certainly, John. I have but the single objective.
Best,
Werewolfy
Augray
<jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote in
<T6SdnSSkTOY...@giganews.com> :
He also seems to have added text to the original.
>Go away. Or at least stop crossposting to
>talk.origins.
I'll second that.
Doc
"John Harshman" <jhar...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:T6SdnSSkTOY...@giganews.com...
fucking had it with his stalking, harassing, and miscellaneous mayhem.
We're prepared to form an expeditionary force to penetrate the wilds of his
territorial pissing grounds, and give him the lesson his retarded parents
failed to give him long ago.
Arne Adolfsen
> Let me tell that bastard, JTEM, that we at alt.prophecies.nostradamus have
> fucking had it with his stalking, harassing, and miscellaneous mayhem.
> We're prepared to form an expeditionary force to penetrate the wilds of his
> territorial pissing grounds, and give him the lesson his retarded parents
> failed to give him long ago.
Don't worry, JTEM, we'll bring you buckets of
Chick-Fil-A, um, thingies to help you tide over this
storm. And we can bring you a dog pee rug (they're
advertised on the teevee!) so you don't accidentally
pee outside your territorial pissing grounds.
Have, uh, fortitude or something.
Arne
JTEM
Arne Adolfsen <adolf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Don't worry, JTEM, we'll bring you buckets of
> Chick-Fil-A, um, thingies to help you tide over this
> storm. And we can bring you a dog pee rug (they're
> advertised on the teevee!) so you don't accidentally
> pee outside your territorial pissing grounds.
Oh, Arne, it wasn't about anything as immature as
"pissing grounds." At least not this time.
This time, see, I had the NERVE to say things like,
well, like the British are assholes for building
THEIR nuclear power plants where any radiation leaks
will blow over to Ireland.
It was not only a huge issue in the past, but it's
a huge issue right now, as the Brits plan a new
building spree.
You can imagine -- given the history -- it appears
as a typical (even if unusually lucid) example of
British malice towards the Irish.
Anyhow, THAT is what set off the most recent peeing
incidents.
Lee Rudolph
> Arne Adolfsen <adolf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Don't worry, JTEM, we'll bring you buckets of
>> Chick-Fil-A, um, thingies to help you tide over this
>> storm. =A0And we can bring you a dog pee rug (they're
>> advertised on the teevee!) so you don't accidentally
>> pee outside your territorial pissing grounds.
>
>Oh, Arne, it wasn't about anything as immature as
>"pissing grounds."
Every once in a while, some medication or other that
I've been prescribed for some acute but minor condition
or other will include in its Patient Information guide
(AKA "Hypochondriac's Cheat-Sheet") the cheerful warning
that one of the possible Severe Side Effects might be
a condition in which the patient's shit looks "like
coffee grounds" (my impression is that it would be
one's stomach lining jumping overboard, after being
finely shredded and self-digested). But I have not
yet been led, officially, to worry, about *pissing*
grounds.
On the other hand, I did betake me to the emergency
room once at 3AM, directly after a mid-night micturition,
and only after much panic and medical interrogation
remember that I had feasted on many beets at my preceding
evening's meal.
Lee Rudolph
Arne Adolfsen
> On the other hand, I did betake me to the emergency
> room once at 3AM, directly after a mid-night micturition,
> and only after much panic and medical interrogation
> remember that I had feasted on many beets at my preceding
> evening's meal.
I've been alarmed at the smell of my pee more than
once after feasting on asparagus until I realized
just what that smell was. It can be rather
alarming. The smell, I mean. I've done the beet
thing, too. The effluence is a lovely
pinkish-purple and is only alarming if you've
forgotten what you ate for din-din. And then it's
tra-la-la! Come look at my pee!
Arne
Werewolfy
> Anyhow, THAT is what set off the most recent peeing
> incidents.
You lying fucking bastard.
If Soc Motts cares to see wht a bloody nuisance this JTEM animal makes
in other forums, then check his posts, particularly to Nostradamus,
where you will see he is universally despised and loathed for his
disgusting foul mouthed presence.
I have no quarrel with Soc Motts...but expect many, many posts against
this fucking nuisance..unless you can control the bastard somehow.
Werewolfy
Arne Adolfsen
> I have no quarrel with Soc Motts...
They make really great apple butter, last I heard.
Arne
Werewolfy
> Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > You lying fucking bastard.
>
> Stop talking to me the way your mother spoke
> to you!
>
> It's not my fault that you're a mentally ill
> sock puppet, and I have no intention of
> ever taking any responsibility for it, monkey.
Don't be shy, JTEM, Don't delete your favourite group, Motts. I'll
only type it back in. Nasty post again, by-the-way
Werewolfy
Werewolfy
Could they put a chain on the madman's neck, Arne?
Werewolfy
Jack Hamilton
He's not under our control any more than he's under yours.
Arne Adolfsen
> Could they put a chain on the madman's neck, Arne?
I dunno, but I've spent the better part of an hour
watching videos of Shah Rukh Khan and I've got to
say that I finally understand why he's the world's
highest paid movie star. His "Pretty Woman"
Bollywood-style is phenomenal.
I NEED those orange pants!
Arne
JTEM
Jack Hamilton <j...@acm.org> wrote:
> He's not under our control any more than he's
> under yours.
Someone tell him about the control-freaks
wet dream that is Facebook!
Werewolfy
Dance for me Monkey.
Dance
JTEM
Werewolfy <Werewol...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
[---snip---]
: "Killing for Britain" - which is published under
: the pseudonym "John Black" - claims this unit
: also planned a series of attacks throughout the
: decade, including the Miami Showband Massacre in
: 1975.
Doc
"Werewolfy" <Werew...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0a2a4fa7-0e7a-422c...@e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
I just discovered the patent for Silly Putty originated from several
chemists' early usenet encounters with JTEM which inspired them!
They believed his ability to duplicate others' words and phrases, to stretch
reality until it breaks, and bounce around with illogic like a
brain-damaged bunny, was so amazingly weird it motivated them to create the
wacky stuff.
I'm following this breaking story...
Doc
Lee Rudolph
Merrick Baldelli
<Werew...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>I have no quarrel with Soc Motts...but expect many, many posts against
>this fucking nuisance..unless you can control the bastard somehow.
Heh... Good luck with this crusade of yours...
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Arne Adolfsen
> JTEM <jte...@gmail.com> writes:
> >Someone tell him about the control-freaks
> >wet dream that is Facebook!
> Up against the wall, motherfucker!
Now that brings back memories of years past! When I
was in 7th grade all us 7th graders and our teachers
had to spend a couple of weeks or so meeting
together in the Multi-Purpose Room due to earthquake
retrofitting of our classrooms or some such. Oh, it
was glorious. Anyway, the teachers decided that we
would have a potluck lunch and a poetry reading all
bunched up together one cold and rainy day.
I'll never forget Mrs. Bagley, a dainty Southern
belle, intoning "The signs are all around us/Up
against the wall motherfucker". I think it was the
first time I ever heard an authority figure say the
f-word out loud. And then she served up watermelon
pickle just like the book ("On the Gift of
Watermelon Pickle") promised. She lived in Sunland
or Tujunga, I think. Now don't get me started on
Val Cameron, my dreamy biology teacher, who lived
out there too. Or Miss Obitake, my art teacher, and
her office mate who used to smoke the Mary J
cigarettes between classes (the office mate, not
Miss O, that is).
And then there was Mr. Hal something or other, my
math teacher, who had a gift for making vibrant
colored-chalk drawings on his blackboard while not
diddling his boy students on the side. And my
ordained rabbi music teacher. We had to make little
opera sets for him, for some reason, so I chose to
do Delilah, from "Samson and...", using a Barbie
doll with a bunch of gauzy blue material wrapped
around her and cardboard pillars buckling behind
her. It was snazzy.
Oh, but then there was that Mr. Moncrief! I could
die just thinking about him.
Arne
JTEM
Arne Adolfsen <adolf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Oh, but then there was that Mr. Moncrief! I could
> die just thinking about him.
Arne, listen to me -- this is important:
Don't think about him.
Arne Adolfsen
He was tall and slender and all muscley and had a
moustache and, gosh, I just lost it whenever I saw
him. "Malcolm", I'd sigh. "I want to be Mrs.
Malcolm Moncrief!" I would sob into my pillow every
night.
It was not to be. He had a thing for an English
teacher and they'd hole up in his classroom at lunch
doing who knows what to each other every day.
Have I yet mentioned the Nazi geography teacher I
had whose parents were German settlers in Uruguay?
Boy, was she a trip. And a half. She didn't like
my presentation on Iceland. The bitch. The
literally Nazi bitch. Grrrr. Don't teach junior
high at a 90% Jewish school if you're a Nazi, moron!
Arne
Werewolfy
"Heh... Good luck with this crusade of yours..."
Why, thank you, Merrick. I know I will generalise and probably
estrange myself from all in motss...but my target is that Universal
nuisance, JTEM.
All he has to do, is to 'play' in whatever forum he chooses..other
than in mine. Not a big thing to want really. The problem is, JTEM has
a long long history of some 15 years of posting and agitating people
on the internet.
As long as the vile thing intrudes on 'my space', I will be intruding
on his.
Werewolfy
Jack Hamilton
This is not his space. This is Usenet. If you think he's doing bad
things, you need to take it up with is ISP or Usenet provider, not with
us. This is not a moderated newsgroup and we as readers have no control
over what is posted (if we did, we wouldn't be seeing your threats
either).
Learn to use a killfile.
Max Vasilatos
news:4B2FE60B...@earthlink.net...
There are untold thousands who harbor deep feelings of love for you, Arne.
We like your writings.
Doc
"Jack Hamilton" <j...@acm.org> wrote in message
news:7ek0j5l8ij13kd55h...@4ax.com...
And so we are to keep updating the killfile as the perpetrator easily types
in another bogus email address?
That is what occurs often, of course, and Johnny has resorted to shifting
his addresses.
The other problem is that killfiling does nothing to emotionally satisfy
those who've been victimized without provocation.
Since it is human nature to exact a certain degree of pain on the
perpetrator -- be it some humiliation, at least -- killfiling doesn't
satisfy. We are to accept the abuse, and keep updating our killfile, as we
get more abuse. Is it that we should keep having to treat such a malicious
person like this in the real world? Perhaps, we should keep changing our
residences, change phone numbers, wear dark sunglasses and prosthetic
make-up?
Basically, killfiling allows the victimizer to go on, as mentioned, with
little or no punishment for his actions. It is really ineffective and
encourages the perpertrator, who knows fully well he can make an email or ID
change easily and continue his jolly work.
Furthermore, it is notable that there is virtually no condemnation of his
malicious behavior from regulars here, other than to meekly defend him, or
treat the issue as an opportunity to be sarcastic.
At the least, anyone who can read his posts to us should be able to see this
man, JTEM, is an inveterate psychotic trouble-maker, whose sadistic
intemperate behavior on this medium mirrors the more serious criminal
behavior of predator and harasser in the real world.
And, contacting his ISP or usenet provider would produce, at best, a brief
suspension, usually 2 weeks. During that time, he could switch to another
provider, a free public one, or simply pay a few bucks for another provider.
Most providers treat such complaints like a school staff that suspends
unruly children, and would rather just keep the profits rolling in rather
than lose a customer.
All these things have been tried before, by anyone who is experienced in the
usenet medium. If they were a solution, we'd have a remarkable reduction in
such psychotic mischief, but, alas, we don't.
It is more notable that very few here want to morally react, condemning his
hurtful behavior, but rather nonchalantly tolerate this sick man who
delights in hurting others, and has apparently been doing it for a very long
time.
Had there been such a convenient solution anytime, as you recommend now, in
the past 17 years of his usenet presence, we'd not be bothered with his
antics now.
I notice as a senior citizen a curious dichotomy between this kind of
malicious behavior and how it is regarded on the internet, and how it is
treated in the real world. In the real world, this would be immediately
condemned as criminal behavior, if not legally pursued, and at the least,
behavior from a disturbed personality that needs professional treatment.
Here, though, as over most of the internet chat forums, it is largely
ignored, and is sickeningly made the subject of jokes, which further
encourages the perpetrator, as he effectively, cowardly hides himself in
false identity. It is more like his behavior has made him, at least in his
twisted mind, a celebrity of sorts.
It becomes a virtual devil's playground with bystanders like yourself
recommending useless solutions and/or tacitly accepting his behavior
without, at least, moral condemnation.
It is true that the reactions to his persistent nasty behavior are sometimes
tinged with excessiveness, but that is natural when the victim is attacked
while going about his or her usual business of discussing topics, and then
suddenly is confronted with a malicious psychotic that dogs them.
JTEM has nastily dogged several members of our group, and although we
attempted to treat him nicely for awhile after he inexplicably shifted his
Mr. Hydesque behavior to a more Dr. Jeckyll-esque mode, he began to revert
to his previous harassing behavior.
At the very least, you who know him regularly in here, could advise him to
curb his behavior or face less friendly interaction in your forum.
Doc
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>
Piglet
>And so we are to keep updating the killfile as the perpetrator easily types
>in another bogus email address?
Get a real newsreader, with actual kill file capabilities.
I recommend trn, and the kill recipe /jtem/f:j
--
Piglet, pig...@piglet.org
"That may be YOUR point. MY point is to live each moment so as
to maximize the amount of complaining that can be done about said
moment, after the fact. It's not as easy as it looks." --jankplus
Merrick Baldelli
wrote:
>I recommend trn, and the kill recipe /jtem/f:j
Please note that works for panix, however does not work for
all newsreaders.
Piglet
>On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:30:00 +0000 (UTC), pig...@panix.com (Piglet)
>wrote:
>>I recommend trn, and the kill recipe /jtem/f:j
> Please note that works for panix, however does not work for
>all newsreaders.
trn, you mean?