Motss.con XXIII Call for Proposals
Kathryn
Jan 31st. Voting will occur Feb 1-15th. There is no official proposal
format, other than text in English so I can read it. Text in other
languages is fine, I'll just need an English version too. Links to
pictures and other media are allowed. If you want to write one
sentence about your proposal then post a youtube link to you dancing
in the town square, I will accept that, though you may get requests
for clarifications from the cohort.
We need to know:
1) Where
Most people will want to know:
1) When
Some people will want to know:
1) What you propose we do there
2) Where the .con hotel is
3) Where they might be eating
It is not lost on me I only managed to get the first done last year,
and we muddled through it all, so I'll be generous about what counts.
The cohort will decide through voting whether they think it was
enough. If you post early and fill in details later before the cutoff,
I will need an updated version posted and emailed as the official
proposal for voting.
Thank you in advance to everyone who submits a proposal
Kathryn
motss.con related issues will also occur on the yahoo group motsscons,
and the facebook group soc.motss.
JTEM
Kathryn <pi...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> And just a reminder: notices will be posted
> and discussion of motss.con related issues
>will also occur
"Also"?
Who was that who replied to me under your name?
Max Vasilatos
news:81fc49d5-3f71-4895...@d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> And just a reminder: notices will be posted and discussion of
> motss.con related issues will also occur on the yahoo group motsscons,
> and the facebook group soc.motss.
I made a googlewave out of it too.
Kathryn
I'm not sure what you're meaning here, but I want people to be aware
that there are multiple discussions occurring.
Kathryn
> Please post proposals on soc.motss and email me a copy by the end of
> Jan 31st. Voting will occur Feb 1-15th.
Because of questions having arisen during discussion on the motsscons
yahoo group, the following have been decided:
1) if there are three (3) or more proposals, the vote will be
preferential
2) proposers may submit multiple proposals, up to a maximum of three
(3)
3) multiple proposals for the same location may be submitted, if
desired, with changes in details (date, activities, etc) with a
maximum of three (3) proposals allowed per location.
I will reiterate that you need not designate a specific date to
qualify your proposal for voting. Proposals may be revised and
resubmitted up to the submission deadline. But try not to wear me out,
ta.
JTEM
Kathryn <pi...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> I will reiterate
Oh, come on! When was the last time you heard
someone say that they "will iterate"?
And if you don't "Iterate" you can't exactly RE-iterate,
now can you?
Sheesh!
Max Vasilatos
yahoo group, the following have been decided:
...
Kathryn, you are amazing.
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
I thought the only con proposal was for Miami and environs? Sounds fun
to me (though I won't be able to go.)
--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
www.davidhorne.net (email address on website)
"[Do you think the world learned anything from the first
world war?] No. They never learn." -Harry Patch (1898-2009)
Max Vasilatos
>> Because of questions having arisen during discussion on the motsscons
>> yahoo group, the following have been decided:
>> ...
>> Kathryn, you are amazing.
> I thought the only con proposal was for Miami and environs? Sounds fun
> to me (though I won't be able to go.)
There are questions about dates at the moment, though matters of locale
could certainly come up.
Sorry I missed you in Boston, David. Next time!
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
Indeed! I thought about you though when I took Oscar and family to the
Summer Shack in Cambridge. :)
Robert S. Coren
Thank you, Kathryn.
I would humbly suggest that, while a date commitment is not essential,
it might help people decide how to vote.
--
---Robert Coren (co...@panix.com)------------------------------------
"I love gardening. It allows me to kill things."--Ann Burlingham
Kathryn
>
> I would humbly suggest that, while a date commitment is not essential,
> it might help people decide how to vote.
People are free to grouse as much as they like about any detail or
imagined detail of any proposal or imagined proposal. Voters will vote
as they see fit on the proposals as submitted by the final deadline.
Proposers take their chances when they throw the chum in the water.
Yes, most people will want to know when. But I can hardly refuse
anyone for not specifying a date when I didn't either.
Ken Rudolph
> I would humbly suggest that, while a date commitment is not essential,
> it might help people decide how to vote.
I haven't seen it mentioned on soc.motss, which means it doesn't
really exist; but I believe there are now two bids for XXIII: Miami
the weekend of 4/25/10 and Miami the weekend of 5/1/10. There's also
a bid for a Motss.con on Planet GJ1214b, which I, for one, am not
taking seriously, although I assume this would satisfy JTEM since as
I understand it Planet GJ1214b is totally gay dollar friendly.
It has been decided to hold the bidding process open until 1/31/10
to accommodate everybody, and then vote the first 2 weeks of
February. At least this is my understanding, and I'm sure that
Kathryn will correct me if I'm misspeaking.
--Ken Rudolph
Max Vasilatos
> Robert S. Coren wrote:
>> I would humbly suggest that, while a date commitment is not essential,
>> it might help people decide how to vote.
>
> There's also a bid for a Motss.con on Planet GJ1214b, which I, for one, am
> not taking seriously, although I assume this would satisfy JTEM since as I
> understand it Planet GJ1214b is totally gay dollar friendly.
Well, I've already registered a pro forma protest against the post-con
gathering at the Palin Center in 2050 on Earth.
Kathryn
> Robert S. Coren wrote:
> > I would humbly suggest that, while a date commitment is not essential,
> > it might help people decide how to vote.
>
> I haven't seen it mentioned on soc.motss, which means it doesn't
> really exist; but I believe there are now two bids for XXIII: Miami
> the weekend of 4/25/10 and Miami the weekend of 5/1/10. There's also
> a bid for a Motss.con on Planet GJ1214b, which I, for one, am not
> taking seriously, although I assume this would satisfy JTEM since as
> I understand it Planet GJ1214b is totally gay dollar friendly.
I would say that while there has been discussion of revisiting the
dates proposed for the Miami bid, there has been no official action
taken on that. An official proposal must 1) be posted on soc.motss
with a subject heading indicating it is a proposal, and 2) arrive in
my email. Any throwing around of ideas that don't meet those two
requirements will not be considered official proposals. If you want
to be sure if a proposal has been received by me, I can respond to the
email letting you know.
Arne Adolfsen
> I would say that while there has been discussion of revisiting the
> dates proposed for the Miami bid, there has been no official action
> taken on that. An official proposal must 1) be posted on soc.motss
> with a subject heading indicating it is a proposal, and 2) arrive in
> my email. Any throwing around of ideas that don't meet those two
> requirements will not be considered official proposals. If you want
> to be sure if a proposal has been received by me, I can respond to the
> email letting you know.
Soc.motss: meet our very own Miss Almira Gulch.
Arne
Kathryn
> Kathryn wrote:
[snip]
>
> Soc.motss: meet our very own Miss Almira Gulch.
Thank you! Officiousness is the only defense a .con organizer has
against this unruly horde. Warm and prickly is what I do best.
Lee Rudolph
These days, it's gotten so one can hardly do a Google search (please
note that I still firmly keep faith with the Melinda Pledge: "Google
is not a verb!") on even the least lewd of search strings without
being assaulted, at the right side of the screen, with offers to
provide warm and prickly fomites of all dimensions for really quite
small fees (and discrete shipping assured).
So I'm glad to see that the genuine article is still out there, too.
Lee Rudolph
John W Gintell
> Kathryn <pi...@pacifier.com> writes:
>
>> On Jan 5, 11:03=A0pm, Arne Adolfsen <adolf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Kathryn wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> Soc.motss: meet our very own Miss Almira Gulch.
>> Thank you! Officiousness is the only defense a .con organizer has
>> against this unruly horde. Warm and prickly is what I do best.
>
> These days, it's gotten so one can hardly do a Google search (please
> note that I still firmly keep faith with the Melinda Pledge: "Google
> is not a verb!") on even the least lewd of search strings without
> being assaulted, at the right side of the screen, with offers to
> provide warm and prickly fomites of all dimensions for really quite
> small fees (and discrete shipping assured).
There is a book by Ken Auletta whose title is "Googled" (which I'm currently
reading).
John W Gintell
Here is a copy of the "official" proposal.
Motss.con on Planet GJ1214b
Tentative Schedule
Foodie dinner in DisneyWorld on March 30, 2010
Blastoff from Kennedy Space Center on April 1 2010.
Arrival at GJ1214b April 1, 2050
Swimming/Steam/Sauna anywhere
Blastoff to Earth April 1, 2050
Arrival at Palin Space Center on April 1, 2090
Apologies for making this a short con but because of the somewhat
hostile environment...
For more info about this resort see:
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1947868,00.html
Ken Rudolph
>
> Here is a copy of the "official" proposal.
>
> Motss.con on Planet GJ1214b
>
> Tentative Schedule
>
> Foodie dinner in DisneyWorld on March 30, 2010
> Blastoff from Kennedy Space Center on April 1 2010.
> Arrival at GJ1214b April 1, 2050
> Swimming/Steam/Sauna anywhere
> Blastoff to Earth April 1, 2050
> Arrival at Palin Space Center on April 1, 2090
>
> Apologies for making this a short con but because of the somewhat
> hostile environment...
> For more info about this resort see:
> http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1947868,00.html
No time on GJ1214b for a foodie dinner? I've heard that braised
grubgorms in sour diengivbyek sauce at Yngvy's Diner is to die for,
worth the trip. (My spellchecker didn't flag "diengivbyek", so I
assume it's a real word even if I did close my eyes and type random
letters.)
--Ken Rudolph
Tim McDaniel
Ken Rudolph <ke...@nospamkenru.net> wrote:
>No time on GJ1214b for a foodie dinner? I've heard that braised
>grubgorms in sour diengivbyek sauce at Yngvy's Diner is to die for,
"Yngvi".
<sf> How about Yngvi's Alouse? </sf>
--
Tim <http://fancyclopedia.editme.com/YNGVI> McDaniel, tm...@panix.com
Ken Rudolph
> In article<qcSdnfEJNuTMXtnW...@supernews.com>,
> Ken Rudolph<ke...@nospamkenru.net> wrote:
>> No time on GJ1214b for a foodie dinner? I've heard that braised
>> grubgorms in sour diengivbyek sauce at Yngvy's Diner is to die for,
>
> "Yngvi".
>
> <sf> How about Yngvi's Alouse?</sf>
Good catch, Tim. I knew there was some reason I couldn't manage to
google the Yngvy's Diner's web site on planet GJ1214b. Darn those
misspellings. And yes, "google" is now a verb, no matter what the
language Nazis say.
--Ken Rudolph
Arne Adolfsen
And here I was thinking that you were jabbering on
and on about Yngwie Malmsteen, only like the
greatest headbanger guitarist ever. Or am I having
an acid flashback to the '70s? Only, I've never
taken acid. And in the early '70s I hung out at
pre-Discomania discos like Rodney Bingenheimer's
English Disco (which was just about two blocks from
here, but now seems to have become a storage unit
for an auction house), where we listened and danced
to the groovy new sounds of guys like David Bowie
(ever tried dancing to "Ground Control to Major
Tom"?) and Marc Boland while amateur 16mm films of
Hawaii big wave surfing competitions were projected
onto every available flat surface. Oh, those were
the days. (And don't get me started on The Sugar
Shack in North Hollywood, located conveniently near
North Hollywood Park which encompasses Amelia
Earhart's family manse.)
The heavy metal group in the building have been
practicing, and practicing, and practicing, and
practicing some horrid song for over an hour now
(complete with sound checks, I kid you not). I
can't quite make out the words -- follow Celia's
example for crisp diction, doll! -- but I think he
keeps wailing "Abilene". I've been to Abilene,
Kansas, and I'd wail only if I were forced to spend
more time there.
Arne
Arne Adolfsen
> >On Jan 5, 11:03=A0pm, Arne Adolfsen <adolf...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> Soc.motss: meet our very own Miss Almira Gulch.
> These days, it's gotten so one can hardly do a Google search (please
> note that I still firmly keep faith with the Melinda Pledge: "Google
> is not a verb!") on even the least lewd of search strings without
> being assaulted, at the right side of the screen, with offers to
> provide warm and prickly fomites of all dimensions for really quite
> small fees (and discrete shipping assured).
>
> So I'm glad to see that the genuine article is still out there, too.
I wondered whether anyone else would remember the
Kansan name of the Wicked Witch of the West, and
then (keeping Dennis L. in mind) I said to myself,
"Self, what the f*ck! Do it!" So I b*ttf*ck*d the
idea around for a few minutes, and went for it.
I've just been down memory lane on the YouTubers. I
found Chico Buarque in drag queen makeup lipsynching
(badly) his truly magnificent song "Construcao". I
wanted to cry. I was then looking around for his
"Samba de Orly" but couldn't find it. And then I
searched for what really first turned me on to
Brazilian music in the first place: Simone
(pronounced see-MOH-nee) singing Chico Buarque's "O
que sera". It played over the end credits of the
really crummy movie _Dona Flor and Her Two Husbands_
and I remember being transfixed by the song and
especially by her voice when I saw the movie at the
long since gone UA multiplex in Westwood. The
YouTubers video thingie I just watched was a pre-MTV
music video of her lipsynching "O que sera" on a
beach somewhere in an ankle-length white sheath and
the date stamp indicates it was filmed in 1976. Oh,
Simone! If only you weren't a diesel dyke on
steroids and I weren't a faggot who cringes at even
the thought of women's private parts! We could have
been something together! (Simone also recorded a
percussion-heavy samba for one of the Rio Carnaval
parade groups maybe 20 years ago that is mind
blowingly fabulous. Really. Like, your mind will
depart from your head when you hear it and you'll
stand up and samba to the music until you're
breathless and don't know how you wound up that
way.)
So, I guess I now have to look up Joao Gilberto on
the YouTubers, who in a perfect world would have
been my father, have sung me to sleep cradled in his
arms every night, and then have fucked the shit out
of me every day. Before school. And during
recess. And again during lunch. And then he'd have
had an after school treat for me. And then
pre-dinner snacks. And dessert. And...oh, well.
Life's a bitch and never gives you what you really
want. (Joao is what I really want, in case the Baby
Jesus is listening and granting favors for the
afterlife. I'm serious. Except, I still want the
bf and ex, too.)
Arne
Jed Davis
> The heavy metal group in the building have been practicing, and
> practicing, and practicing, and practicing some horrid song for over
> an hour now (complete with sound checks, I kid you not). I can't
> quite make out the words -- follow Celia's example for crisp diction,
> doll! -- but I think he keeps wailing "Abilene". I've been to
> Abilene, Kansas, and I'd wail only if I were forced to spend more time
> there.
Perhaps they're really big fans of Internet2.
--
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JTEM
Kathryn <pi...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> I would say that while there has been discussion
> of revisiting the dates proposed for the Miami
> bid, there has been no official action taken on
> that.
"Don't discuss the ramifications of your choices"...
"Ignore the date issue"...
Now don't over react here. Nobody is accusing you of
being a Nazi. Someone who has previously performed
cruel & excruciatingly painful experiments on puppies,
sure, but not a Nazi. What's more, I don't want your
animal cruelty choked past to influence anyone's
decision now.
That's right.
The fact that you subjected adorable puppies to
unimaginable suffering AND apparently support Florida
should not influence anyone, in any way, shape or form.
Even your obvious hatred of gay rights & social equality,
as made evident by your attempts to punish gay marriage
states & reward the most homophobic states, shouldn't be
allowed to influence people here.
Only the facts should matter.
Can't we all just get along?
Arne Adolfsen
> Arne Adolfsen <adol...@earthlink.net> writes:
> > The heavy metal group in the building have been practicing, and
> > practicing, and practicing, and practicing some horrid song for over
> > an hour now (complete with sound checks, I kid you not). I can't
> > quite make out the words -- follow Celia's example for crisp diction,
> > doll! -- but I think he keeps wailing "Abilene". I've been to
> > Abilene, Kansas, and I'd wail only if I were forced to spend more time
> > there.
> Perhaps they're really big fans of Internet2.
Is that still being talked about? And, uh, I don't
understand the reference in relation to Abilene.
But I did just flash on a musician who was *hugely*
popular at Rodney Bingenheimer's English Disco in
the early '70s: Suzi Quatro. They played "Can the
Can" from an album Rodney himself purchased in
London in 1972 or 1973, before it was released in
the US, probably ten times a night. Ever try
dancing to that, by the way? Wearing, as I did,
six-inch-heeled black leather platform boots -- or
sometimes my three-inch platform sandals with
glittery gold leather straps (I'm wearing those
sandals and a skin tight black satin tuxedo in my
high school prom picture in 1974, BTW, .jpg
available upon request) -- short-sleeved sweatshirts
with multi-colored rhinestones sparkling all over
the place, and shmears of Vaseline on the eyelids?
That outfit did, however, serve me quite well on
"The Real Don Steele Show", a sort of low rent
"American Bandstand" filmed on the Paramount lot,
where I got to jiggle myself silly on camera like a
go-go dancer to hot new bands like the New York
Dolls. As I recall, we taped two (three?) shows
each Saturday and were expected to have a change of
outfit for each show. "What should I wear for the
Tavares number?" was a more pressing question to me
than "When am I supposed to take the SATs?" in those
halcyon days.
Ah, youth is fleeting as someone once pointed out.
And someone else said youth is wasted on the young.
And yet another person pointed out that beauty is
only skin deep and is terribly, terribly
transitory. How true, how true. I wonder what
Jonathan Livingston Seagull had to say about that.
Arne
Lee Rudolph
>Ah, youth is fleeting as someone once pointed out.
>And someone else said youth is wasted on the young.
>And yet another person pointed out that beauty is
>only skin deep and is terribly, terribly
>transitory. How true, how true. I wonder what
>Jonathan Livingston Seagull had to say about that.
"Juventud, divino tesoro,
Ya te vas para no volver!
Cuando quiero llorar, no lloro,
Y a veces lloro sin querer!"
--Ruben Dario
"A seagull without its feathers is only as beautiful
as the vaseline on the beholder's eyelids. You have
no *idea* how hard saltwater can be on a bird's bare
skin, my dears!"
--J. Livingston Seagull
Lee Rudolph
Robert S. Coren
Arne Adolfsen <adol...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>I wondered whether anyone else would remember the
>Kansan name of the Wicked Witch of the West
Well, it depends on how or whether you distinguish between "remember"
and "recognize". If you had asked me "What was the Kansan name of the
Wicked Witch of the West", I might or might not have been able to come
up with it, but I didn't have any trouble identifying Almira Gulch.
--Robert (who would have had even less trouble identifying Elphaba
Thropp, but perhaps we shouldn't go there)
--
---Robert Coren (co...@panix.com)------------------------------------
"Is the Bible really nothing more than an elaborate recipe for
bean stew or chicken soup?" --Michael Carden
Dennis Lewis
>
>... Foodie dinner in DisneyWorld on March 30, 2010
>Blastoff from Kennedy Space Center on April 1 2010 ...
FWIW - the local weathermen say that Melbourne, Fla., has an
*excellent* chance of getting snow on Sunday. As you may have heard,
this weekend is going to be unusually cold all the way to the southern
tip of Florida. A low pressure system is going to be tracking across
the Gulf of Mexico this weekend, making it likely that Orlando and
Daytona Beach will see snowflakes on Saturday. Then the low will go
out over the Atlantic and sling moisture back onto the Florida coast,
giving Melbourne, Cocoa Beach and Cape Canaveral (How the hell did
Mistress Palin become associated with it?) a white ... er ... Sunday.
Jack Hamilton
>In article <4B456EE6...@earthlink.net>,
>Arne Adolfsen <adol...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>I wondered whether anyone else would remember the
>>Kansan name of the Wicked Witch of the West
>
>Well, it depends on how or whether you distinguish between "remember"
>and "recognize". If you had asked me "What was the Kansan name of the
>Wicked Witch of the West", I might or might not have been able to come
>up with it, but I didn't have any trouble identifying Almira Gulch.
And it depends on whether you think the whole thing was a dream
sequence, as in the movie, or really existed, as in the books (where
Dorothy and Auntie Em et al. move to Oz after the transgender Ozma
becomes Queen).
Arne Adolfsen
> FWIW - the local weathermen say that Melbourne, Fla., has an
> *excellent* chance of getting snow on Sunday. As you may have heard,
> this weekend is going to be unusually cold all the way to the southern
> tip of Florida. A low pressure system is going to be tracking across
> the Gulf of Mexico this weekend, making it likely that Orlando and
> Daytona Beach will see snowflakes on Saturday. Then the low will go
> out over the Atlantic and sling moisture back onto the Florida coast,
> giving Melbourne, Cocoa Beach and Cape Canaveral (How the hell did
> Mistress Palin become associated with it?) a white ... er ... Sunday.
Oh, gosh, and I remember when Sim claimed that Miami
was like the warmest place on earth and reacted with
umbrage when I pointed out that it's snowed in the
city of Los Angeles exactly twice since World War
II, and then only for a brief few minutes each time,
but that it snows in Florida all the time. Brrrr!
Suck down those Cuba Libres under the snow-dusted
dwarf palm trees in 25F *heat* in Cocoa Beach,
thong-wearing suckers!
Arne