[zoo] Zoophilia=Bestiality=Animal Cruelty? (was: Re: RFD: soc.support.zoophilia)
Weregoose
In <HERMIT.96J...@ese.UCSC.EDU> William R. Ward wrote:
>Zoophilia = Bestiality = Animal cruelty.
You are claiming that in approximately half of the states of the U.S.
animal cruelty is legal, as bestiality is legal there? Not to mention that
according to your definition animal cruelty is legal in most of the
countries of the European Union?
You are claiming that zoophilia (a paraphilia, i.e. a sexual disposition)
equals bestiality (a sexual practise)?
Would you please back up these two claims? TIA.
Weregoose
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Jeffrey Herman
Weregoose <were...@cabal.shnet.org> wrote:
>In <HERMIT.96J...@ese.UCSC.EDU> William R. Ward wrote:
>>Zoophilia = Bestiality = Animal cruelty.
>You are claiming that in approximately half of the states of the U.S.
>animal cruelty is legal, as bestiality is legal there?
You'll need to back up this claim. Please provide a state-by-state list
of those that consider screwing one's dog in the butt legal. Keep in
mind there are vague statutes contained in each state's penal code
that would certainly prohibit such an act ("lewd and lascivious acts").
>Not to mention that
>according to your definition animal cruelty is legal in most of the
>countries of the European Union?
Again, provide facts to back up your claim. Who falls into this "most"
catagory? You've read each country's statutes?
>You are claiming that zoophilia (a paraphilia, i.e. a sexual disposition)
>equals bestiality (a sexual practise)?
According to the RFD that was posted on news.groups, they're quite close.
Jeff
Weregoose
In <DuoHs...@news.hawaii.edu> Jeffrey Herman wrote:
>Weregoose <were...@cabal.shnet.org> wrote:
>>In <HERMIT.96J...@ese.UCSC.EDU> William R. Ward wrote:
>>>Zoophilia = Bestiality = Animal cruelty.
>
>>You are claiming that in approximately half of the states of the U.S.
>>animal cruelty is legal, as bestiality is legal there?
>
>You'll need to back up this claim. Please provide a state-by-state list
>of those that consider screwing one's dog in the butt legal. Keep in
>mind there are vague statutes contained in each state's penal code
>that would certainly prohibit such an act ("lewd and lascivious acts").
VAR - Verification of information. Most state/countries laws are only
located in that states/countries local libraries. So only some laws
have been confirmed through research. Others are given by word of
mouth and some have not been researched at all.
C = Confirmed and verifyed laws.
W = laws given by word of mouth (or computer)
- = Laws not known.
LAW - Is their a specific law against bestiality in that state/country.
NONE = No specific law found against bestiality
YES = Law found regarding bestiality.
SN - Statute Number. If a law has been found this is the state/country's
statute number it was found under.
PEN - Penalty classification for violating the law. This may vary between
states/countries. PT = Prison time
STATE/COUNTRY VAR LAW SN PEN
USA LAWS
Alabama: C YES Code of Ala. @13A-6-63 "sodomy in the 1st degree"
(1994) criminal offense.
Alaska: C NONE
Arizona: C NONE
Arkansas: C YES Ark. Stat. Ann. Criminal Offense:
@13A-6-63 (1994) "sodomy in 1st degree"
California: C YES Penal Code Section 286.5 Misdemeanor
Colorado: C NONE
Connecticut: C NONE
Delaware: C YES 11 Del. C. @777 (1993) Class D Criminal felony.
Florida: C NONE
Georgia: C YES O.C.G.A. @16-6-6 (1994) 1-5 yr. jail sentence.
Hawaii: C NONE
Idaho: C YES Idaho Code @18-6605 "length of imprisonment in
(1994) excess of 5 years is left
to discretion of court."
Illinois: C YES 720 ILCS 5/12-12 (1994) Crime.
Indiana: C YES Burn Ind. Code. Ann.
@35-42-4-2 (1994)
Iowa: C NONE
Kansas: C YES K.S.A. @2103506 (1993) Aggravated criminal sodomy
security level 2, felony
Kentucky: C NONE
Louisiana: C NONE
Maine: C YES 17-A M.R.S. @ 251 (1994) Class C Crime; 3-5 years
Maryland: C YES Unnatural/Perverted up to $1,000 fine,
Sexual Acts Article 27, Max of 10 years PT
Section 553
Massachusetts: C YES Mass. Ann. Laws. Jail sentence of not
ch. 272 @34 (1994) more than 20 years
Michigan: C YES MCL @750.185 (1992) Jail sentence of not more
than 15 years
Minnessota: C YES Minn. Stat. @609.294, Either fine of not more
(1993) than $3,000 or sentence of
not more than 1 year.
Mississippi: C YES Miss. Code. Ann., Sentence of not more than
@97-29-59 10 years.
Missouri: C NONE
Montana: C YES Mont. Code. Ann., 10 year sentence and/or
@45-5-505 (1994) $50,000 fine.
Nebraska: C NONE
Nevada: C NONE
New Hampshire: C NONE
New Jersey: C NONE
New Mexico: C NONE
New York: C YES NY CLS Penal @130.20 Class A misdemeanor.
(1994)
North Carolina: C YES N.C. Gen. Stat. @14-177 Class I felony. 3-10 years
(1994)
North Dakota: C YES N.D. Cent. Code Various penalties, and can
@12.1-20-03, 12.1-20-07, be considered either
12.1-20-12(1993) "gross sexual imposition,"
"sexual assault" or
"deviate sexual act"
Ohio: C NONE
Oklahoma: C YES 21 Okl. St. @886 (1994) "imprisonment not to
exceed 10 years"
Oregon: C NONE
Pennsylvania: C YES 18 Pa. C. S. @3101,
3123 and 3124 (1994)
Rhode Island: C YES R.I. Gen. Laws @11-10-1 7-20 years.
(1993)
South Carolina: C YES S.C. Code Ann. 5 yrs jail and/or fine of
@16-15-120 (1993) at least $500
South Dakota: C NONE
Tennessee: C YES Tenn. Code. Ann.
@39-13-501 (1994)
Texas: C NONE
Utah: C YES Bestiality 76-9-301.8 Class B Misdemeanor
Vermont: C NONE
Virginia: C YES Va. Code. Ann. Class 6 Felony
@18.2-361 (1994)
Washington: C NONE
Washington DC: C YES DC Code @22-3502 (1994) Fine not more than $1,000
("Sexual Psychopath" and/or sentence of not
chapter) more than 10 yrs
West Virginia: C NONE
Wisconsin: C YES Wis. State. @944.17 None listed
(1993)
Wyoming: C NONE
>>Not to mention that
>>according to your definition animal cruelty is legal in most of the
>>countries of the European Union?
>
>Again, provide facts to back up your claim. Who falls into this "most"
>catagory? You've read each country's statutes?
Germany, Denmark, the Netherlands, Sweden, Italy, Spain and (unconfirmed,
yet claimed in "Beloved Animal" by the Dutch biologist Midas Dekkers) all
others, obviously Hungary and Russia, too. The possible exception -
theoretically - is the UK, but UK laws are strange anyway for someone from
the continent, they still also have the death penalty - theoretically.
Weregoose
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Rick Pikul
In article <z0Ox8UAHH$7xE...@prioryv.demon.co.uk>,
Kurt Goafec <an62...@prioryv.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <GGSVA...@cabal.shnet.org>, Weregoose
><were...@cabal.shnet.org> writes
{Foomph...}
>>theoretically - is the UK, but UK laws are strange anyway for someone from
>>the continent, they still also have the death penalty - theoretically.
>
>What the UK? Only theoretically for 'treason'. 'Bestiality' gets a
>maximum life (30 years approx.) sentence. I think the max. for
>'attempted sodomy with an animal' is 7 years...
The UK also has the death penalty for piracy, arson of HM docks,
and stealing cattle in Scotland.
But then, if you are on the Isle of Man you can shoot a man in a
kilt on sight.
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Phoenix, FALH
Fuck the CDA, this is intended to harrass.
Kurt Goafec
In article <4t06dp$9...@nyx10.cs.du.edu>, Rick Pikul
<rip...@nyx10.cs.du.edu> writes
>>>theoretically - is the UK, but UK laws are strange anyway for someone from
>>>the continent, they still also have the death penalty - theoretically.
>>
>>What the UK? Only theoretically for 'treason'. 'Bestiality' gets a
>>maximum life (30 years approx.) sentence. I think the max. for
>>'attempted sodomy with an animal' is 7 years...
> The UK also has the death penalty for piracy, arson of HM docks,
>and stealing cattle in Scotland.
Now that I *didn't* know.
> But then, if you are on the Isle of Man you can shoot a man in a
>kilt on sight.
So? Sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Although homosexuality is illegal
there, also.
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