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Stephen Morgan

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Jun 28, 2001, 11:57:24 PM6/28/01
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http://www.newarkadvertiser.co.uk/stories/story1.htm

Stroke victim robbed

By DAN CHURCHER

Police are seeking two teenage girls who have twice stolen a wedding
ring from the finger of a disabled woman.

In both incidents the girls, aged about 17-18, called at the woman's
home on Lilac Close, Newark.
When she answered the door, they pushed past her.
Mrs Margaret Cooke (56) who suffered a stroke ten years ago and is
paralysed on one side, was later pushed to the floor and threatened
with violence.
On the first occasion the girls, thought to be from the Newark area,
forced off her hand the wedding ring she had worn for 37 years.
They also stole her engagement ring.
They returned three weeks later and after searching the house, they
took her replacement ring and her purse, containing £5.
Mrs Cooke's husband, Mr Julian Cooke (57) said: "My wife has the mind
of a 12-year-old and cannot express herself. She thinks everyone is
her friend.
"These girls are the lowest of the low. They are filth and heaven
help them if I get hold of them."
Both attacks happened while Mr Cooke was working in Grantham.
He said: "My wife wore her wedding ring for 37 years.

"They pulled it off and stole it, along with her engagement ring. I
doubt that you could have eased them off with soap.
"She was still suffering with the pain when I replaced the wedding
ring and three weeks later they have taken that as well.
"Margaret cannot defend herself and is an easy target. These people
need catching and should go to prison for a very long time.
"I am bitterly angry. Once is bad enough but twice is contemptible."
The couple married in Singapore while Mr Cooke was serving with the
Royal Engineers.
"She brought the ring out with her. We were engaged at the time and
she came out from Newark to join me. It meant the world to her."
Dc Nigel Tutin of Newark CID said: "This was a particularly nasty,
callous attack on a disabled woman in her own home.
"I would ask anyone who has any information about the perpetrators to
contact us and ensure they are brought to justice as quickly as
possible."
The first girl is 5ft 7ins, and of medium build.

She has a lightly tanned complexion, shoulder-length black hair and
three loop earrings in each ear.
The second is white, 5ft, slim and has blonde hair.
Anyone with any information should contact Dc Tutin on 01636 605999.
CHIEL WRITES: CLICK HERE

CHIEL WRITES:

Evil in our midst

Thirty-seven years ago, an excited, engaged girl travelled to the Far
East.

In her luggage was a gold wedding ring and awaiting her was her
fiancé, a serving soldier.
The couple were married in Singapore and the ring has remained on the
lady's finger ever since, an enduring symbol of mutual commitment and
devotion.
Or rather, it remained there until a few weeks ago, when two girls
forced their way into her home.
Frustrated at finding little of value, they pulled the ring from her
finger and stole it, using so much violence the lady's hand remained
painful for some time.
They were aided by the fact that the lady is an invalid.
She had suffered a stroke, returning to her the trusting, innocent
nature of her childhood and paralysing her on one side.
The lady's distraught husband bought a new ring for her.
The girls returned and stole that as well.
We are told that the answer to crime is to tackle its causes.
In this case, the cause is pure evil.
The culprits made little or no financial gain from their crime and
their only satisfaction stemmed from victimising a defenceless
invalid.
The nature of their offence is repulsive to every decent person.
Police believe the girls are from this area and the descriptions in
our front page report are specific enough to narrow the field
considerably.

Someone, somewhere, knows their identity or harbours suspicions.
No one should hesitate to share their knowledge with the police, to
help ensure that vulnerable members of our community can feel more
secure in their homes.
Society has both the right and the obligation to protect itself from
creatures such as these.
They must be caught quickly and shown no more mercy than they
extended to their victim.

--
http://tero.port5.com

But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are
brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father,
which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even
Christ.
-- Matthew 23:8-10

Danielle

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Jun 28, 2001, 11:44:55 PM6/28/01
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That is simply disgusting.

jet

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Jun 29, 2001, 1:27:09 AM6/29/01
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Do you bitter boys search though the world's press every day to find these
"evil wimmins" stories? I've asked before, but haven't gotten a decent
answer, why do you do this?

Do you think nobody knows women are capable of evil?

J

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Society

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Jun 29, 2001, 2:30:19 AM6/29/01
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"jet" <that...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Do you bitter boys

You've reduced yourself to mere name-calling again, jet.
The adults here have been on to your distraction ploys
for a long, long time. Thanks for adding to the heaps of
evidence for my sig.

> search though the world's press every day to find these
> "evil wimmins" stories?

In a backhanded way, jet, you're acknowledging (at long last)
that women's bad behavior is underreported.

> I've asked before, but haven't gotten a decent
> answer, why do you do this?

The question's been answered before numerous times, jet.
Since you haven't been paying attention, apparently, I'll
be chivalrous and stoop to giving you an extra chance at
a clue.

These reports are brought to light to break down the
stereotype that women are nicer, more nurturing, less
aggressive and less capable of evil than men. BTW,
some feminists have tried what they suppose is "retaliation"
by trying to *reinforce* the old man-bashing stereotypes.
Feminists call that 'equality'. Isn't that just *too* cute? Ha ha!

> Do you think nobody knows women are capable of evil?

You're evading reality with a strawwoman, jet. WE KNOW
women are capable of evil. Do you? <chuckle>

The problem is that "what people know that isn't so" is
that women aren't as capable and don't practice evil as
often as men. The common stereotype is that only
a man's violence is violent while a women's violence is
just *cute* and mostly harmless.

--
All excuses for feminism depend on censorship
of reality to appear plausible.


jet

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Jun 29, 2001, 3:37:58 AM6/29/01
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Chris Redfield <apb...@NoSpamw-link.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:27:09 -0700, "jet" <that...@yahoo.cm> wrote:
>
> >Do you bitter boys search though the world's press every day to find
these
> >"evil wimmins" stories?
>
> Oh, another bitter bitch.

>
>
> I've asked before, but haven't gotten a decent
> >answer, why do you do this?
>
> Why do you keep posting here, Silverfish?

I wonder if Soceity will take you to task for name calling, or if he has a
double standard...


J


> >
> >Do you think nobody knows women are capable of evil?
>

> Sure we do. We see your posts, don't we?
>
>
>
>
>
> But really, we know that more important than feeling
> good is doing good, doing right. The most important
> thing for us is using our lives in the right way. The
> most important thing is having the right purpose and
> serving that purpose effectively.


helloh...@hotmail.com

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Jun 29, 2001, 8:05:52 AM6/29/01
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Yep, teenage girls can be absolute bitches!

I think it's because they haven't figured out how to be women yet...
kinda like them feminists.

Laura Higley

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Jun 29, 2001, 9:05:30 AM6/29/01
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jet wrote:
>
> Do you bitter boys search though the world's press every day to find these
> "evil wimmins" stories? I've asked before, but haven't gotten a decent
> answer, why do you do this?
>
> Do you think nobody knows women are capable of evil?

Maybe they're making sure there's equal opportunity news
reports of women's evil to men's evil. Doing their part for
human equality.

Laura Higley

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Jun 29, 2001, 9:13:53 AM6/29/01
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Chris Redfield wrote:

> 1 Corinthians 11:2-4 Now I want you to realize that the head of every
> man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of
> Christ is God.

Here's another quote from the bible. "God is a woman in
childbirth."

> Back when our society lived this way, with women knowing their
> submission, we didn't hear of these stories.

So the head of every man is woman, since Christ is God,
God's a woman, and the bible says so.

GodHimself

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Jun 29, 2001, 12:44:05 PM6/29/01
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Chris Redfield <apb...@NoSpamw-link.net> wrote in
news:qx48O+n+bNRCWh...@4ax.com:

> On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:44:55 +1300, Danielle
> <daniell...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 03:57:24 GMT, ncav...@crosswinds.net (Stephen
>>Morgan) wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.newarkadvertiser.co.uk/stories/story1.htm
>>>
>>> Stroke victim robbed
>>>
>>> By DAN CHURCHER

> <snip>


>
> 1 Corinthians 11:2-4 Now I want you to realize that the head of every
> man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of
> Christ is God.
>
>

> Back when our society lived this way, with women knowing their
> submission, we didn't hear of these stories.

I've been told that I'm harsh, and my own worst enemy. So, in the very
spirit of that, fuck you asshole.

Stephen Morgan

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Jun 29, 2001, 1:21:33 PM6/29/01
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In alt.feminism, Chris Redfield wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:27:09 -0700, "jet" <that...@yahoo.cm> wrote:
>
> >Do you bitter boys search though the world's press every day to find these
> >"evil wimmins" stories?

No, not at all, this was from my town's weekly newspaper.

> Oh, another bitter bitch.


>
> > I've asked before, but haven't gotten a decent
> >answer, why do you do this?
>

> Why do you keep posting here, Silverfish?
>

> >Do you think nobody knows women are capable of evil?
>

> Sure we do. We see your posts, don't we?

Stephen Morgan

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Jun 29, 2001, 1:21:37 PM6/29/01
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Two arrests in ring case
By DAVID ROGERS

Newark police have arrested two 17-year-old girls in connection with
the theft of a woman's wedding ring from her finger.

The Newark girls were arrested on Wednesday morning and interviewed
during the day.
They were released on police bail that evening to return to Newark
Police Station at a later date.
The arrests follow last week's front page Advertiser report of thefts
at the home of mentally handicapped Mrs Margaret Cooke (56) of Lilac
Close, Newark.
Detective Sergeant Paul Williams said yesterday: "I am grateful to
all those people from Newark who offered help as a result of the
story."

http://www.newarkadvertiser.co.uk/stories/story2.htm

Stephen Morgan

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Jun 29, 2001, 1:21:38 PM6/29/01
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In alt.feminism, Laura Higley wrote:
> Chris Redfield wrote:
>
> > 1 Corinthians 11:2-4 Now I want you to realize that the head of every
> > man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of
> > Christ is God.
>
> Here's another quote from the bible. "God is a woman in
> childbirth."

Where?

> > Back when our society lived this way, with women knowing their
> > submission, we didn't hear of these stories.
>
> So the head of every man is woman, since Christ is God,
> God's a woman, and the bible says so.

No.

Shibboleth

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Jun 29, 2001, 2:14:03 PM6/29/01
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On 29-Jun-2001, "jet" <that...@yahoo.cm> wrote:

> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> Xref: newscene.com soc.men:810138 alt.feminism:669353


>
> Do you bitter boys search though the world's press every day to find these
> "evil wimmins" stories? I've asked before, but haven't gotten a decent
> answer, why do you do this?
>
> Do you think nobody knows women are capable of evil?
>
> J

Some people don't. It is good to inform them.

Danielle

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Jun 29, 2001, 6:22:12 PM6/29/01
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:29:29 -0700, Chris Redfield
<apb...@NoSpamw-link.net> wrote:

>On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 16:44:55 +1300, Danielle
><daniell...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>

>>On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 03:57:24 GMT, ncav...@crosswinds.net (Stephen
>>Morgan) wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.newarkadvertiser.co.uk/stories/story1.htm
>>>
>>> Stroke victim robbed
>>>
>>> By DAN CHURCHER

><snip>


>
>1 Corinthians 11:2-4 Now I want you to realize that the head of every
>man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of
>Christ is God.
>
>

>Back when our society lived this way, with women knowing their
>submission, we didn't hear of these stories.


Yes we did, but it was only men doing it.

Danielle

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Jun 29, 2001, 6:25:38 PM6/29/01
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 17:21:37 GMT, ncav...@crosswinds.net (Stephen
Morgan) wrote:

Let me know if these bitches get what they deserve please Stephen.

Stephen Morgan

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Jun 29, 2001, 10:11:10 PM6/29/01
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I'll send any new information.

Danielle

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Jun 29, 2001, 11:09:14 PM6/29/01
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 02:11:10 GMT, ncav...@crosswinds.net (Stephen
Morgan) wrote:


Thank you :-)

Laura Higley

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Jun 30, 2001, 8:51:29 AM6/30/01
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Stephen Morgan wrote:

> > Here's another quote from the bible. "God is a woman in
> > childbirth."
>
> Where?

It's not my problem you don't read your Bible closely. I've
always felt it's stupid to quote chapter and verse, as
though people shouldn't read the whole book in context, and
in the context of other literature from the eras the various
passages were written.

Angilion

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Jun 30, 2001, 10:27:17 AM6/30/01
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 08:51:29 -0400, Laura Higley <La...@nitelinks.com>
wrote:

So you quoted something you can't substantiate.

OK, I'll state that this is a quote from the Bible: "Two
pints of lager and a packet of crisps please".

I can't give you chapter and verse on that either, but
I'm sure everyone will just take my word for it.

As far as I can see, if you pick the appropriate translation
and search carefully, you can find a quote to support
any POV in the Bible somewhere.

--

Always remember you're unique.
Just like everyone else. (Anon)

Laura Higley

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Jun 30, 2001, 10:40:03 AM6/30/01
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Angilion wrote:
>
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 08:51:29 -0400, Laura Higley <La...@nitelinks.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Stephen Morgan wrote:
> >
> >> > Here's another quote from the bible. "God is a woman in
> >> > childbirth."
> >>
> >> Where?
> >
> >It's not my problem you don't read your Bible closely. I've
> >always felt it's stupid to quote chapter and verse, as
> >though people shouldn't read the whole book in context, and
> >in the context of other literature from the eras the various
> >passages were written.
>
> So you quoted something you can't substantiate.

Actually I can substantiate it, in three languages, but
choose not to. Someone who wants to find what I've quoted
can become familiar with the book enough to find it, or not.
Quotes out of context are worthless. I choose not to make it
easier for someone who quotes select bits and pieces that
serve a political agenda, yet doesn't understand the times
or even respect the differences between languages these
books were written in originally and that person's own
dialect today.

> OK, I'll state that this is a quote from the Bible: "Two
> pints of lager and a packet of crisps please".
>
> I can't give you chapter and verse on that either, but
> I'm sure everyone will just take my word for it.
>
> As far as I can see, if you pick the appropriate translation
> and search carefully, you can find a quote to support
> any POV in the Bible somewhere.

Precisely my point. Quoting chapter and verse of the Bible
to further a political agenda is a useless affectation,
which insults those sincere people who did their best to
make a book comprising the beliefs of their religion, under,
they believed, heaven's guidance.

Stephen Morgan

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Jun 30, 2001, 3:19:05 PM6/30/01
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In alt.feminism, Laura Higley wrote:
> Stephen Morgan wrote:
>
> > > Here's another quote from the bible. "God is a woman in
> > > childbirth."
> >
> > Where?
>
> It's not my problem you don't read your Bible closely.

All that I can this you could mean is

The LORD will march out like a mighty man, like a warrior he
will stir up his zeal; with a shout he will raise the battle
cry and will triumph over his enemies.
"For a long time I have kept silent, I have been quiet and
held myself back. But now, like a woman in childbirth, I cry
out, I gasp and pant.
I will lay waste the mountains and hills and dry up all their
vegetation; I will turn rivers into islands and dry up the
pools.
-- Isaiah 42:13-15

But the phrase "God is a woman" doesn't appear in the bible.

> I've
> always felt it's stupid to quote chapter and verse, as
> though people shouldn't read the whole book in context, and
> in the context of other literature from the eras the various
> passages were written.

Yes, that's why all Christians should read the teachings of the Essenes.

John Jones

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Jun 30, 2001, 7:01:01 PM6/30/01
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"Laura Higley" <La...@nitelinks.com> wrote in message
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> Angilion wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 30 Jun 2001 08:51:29 -0400, Laura Higley <La...@nitelinks.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Stephen Morgan wrote:
> > >
> > >> > Here's another quote from the bible. "God is a woman in
> > >> > childbirth."
> > >>
> > >> Where?
> > >
> > >It's not my problem you don't read your Bible closely. I've
> > >always felt it's stupid to quote chapter and verse, as
> > >though people shouldn't read the whole book in context, and
> > >in the context of other literature from the eras the various
> > >passages were written.
> >
> > So you quoted something you can't substantiate.
>
> Actually I can substantiate it, in three languages, but
> choose not to.

Well, you've certanly impressed me!

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CCC-Forum/files/By%20Comps,%20For%20Comps/Sear
ching%20for%20the%20Goddess_.html

> [...]. Quoting chapter and verse of the Bible


> to further a political agenda is a useless affectation,
> which insults those sincere people who did their best to
> make a book comprising the beliefs of their religion, under,
> they believed, heaven's guidance.

This is one of the lamest excuses I've heard for not supporting a claim
since (pick anything by Jen Larson)


Philip Lewis

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"jet" <that...@yahoo.cm> wrote in message
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>
> Chris Redfield <apb...@NoSpamw-link.net> wrote in message
> news:kSA8O+u5TbS2wN...@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:27:09 -0700, "jet" <that...@yahoo.cm> wrote:
> >
> > >Do you bitter boys search though the world's press every day to find
> these
> > >"evil wimmins" stories?
> >
> > Oh, another bitter bitch.
> >
> >
> > I've asked before, but haven't gotten a decent
> > >answer, why do you do this?
> >
> > Why do you keep posting here, Silverfish?
>
> I wonder if Soceity will take you to task for name calling, or if he has a
> double standard...

Society will have already noted that you started your own post with an
insult to the male posters here - you got treated with the contempt that you
deserve and still you are whining to another MAN to help protect your
"delicate feelings".

*chucke*

--
Phil
(The Guy Who's Not Too Fond Of Political Correctness)

Laura Higley

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Jul 1, 2001, 11:06:50 AM7/1/01
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John Jones wrote:

> This is one of the lamest excuses I've heard for not supporting a claim
> since (pick anything by Jen Larson)

It's there. The person to whom it was directed has large
passages memorized and knows their location. Should be a
piece of cake for him. What's lame is using a religious
guidance book to support political views.

John Jones

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Jul 1, 2001, 11:44:34 AM7/1/01
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"Laura Higley" <La...@nitelinks.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> John Jones wrote:
>
> > This is one of the lamest excuses I've heard for not supporting a claim
> > since (pick anything by Jen Larson)
>
> It's there. The person to whom it was directed has large
> passages memorized and knows their location. Should be a
> piece of cake for him.

It's your claim (which you curiously snipped). Intellectual honesty calls
for you to support it.

> What's lame is using a religious
> guidance book to support political views.

Then why did you do it? (Cite tha bible then?)


Philip Lewis

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"Brikbat" <bri...@gmx.net> wrote in message
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> "jet" <that...@yahoo.cm> wrote in
> news:9hh3g7$5cr8$1...@newssvr06-en0.news.prodigy.com:


>
> > Do you bitter boys search though the world's press every day to find
> > these "evil wimmins" stories? I've asked before, but haven't gotten a
> > decent answer, why do you do this?
> >
> > Do you think nobody knows women are capable of evil?
>

> Well at least it goes to show I'm not the most off topic here. As far as
> I could see there was no relevance to gender politics at all there.

Jet is rarely interested in discussing the actual topic - she is far more
interested in finding out who she dislikes and then "going at it" on a
purely personal level - next week in our ongoing efforts to try and get her
to raise her horizons somewhat - we are going to give her lessons on how to
fetch a stick when commanded to do so - who knows after a while she may even
be able to find some of the bones she's been burying all over the garden. :)

--
Phil
(The Guy Who's Not Too Fond Of Political Correctness)

I'm
> mean that's ok just as long as we don't mind OT posting - it is an alt
> group after all :)

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