Spiting their pretty faces
Ian
> I couldn't pick a favourite quote from this article...there's just too
> many.
>
> go to:
> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30830
The irony. Some of the nicest women I know are still single.
Feminism talked them into concentrating on their careers. Patricia's
still doing it, unashamed.
I had lunch yesterday, with couple trying for children. She's 40 and gutted.
She fucked about for fifteen years, and now is so close to remaining childless.
The menopause is forever.
One of my best friends, 38, is now resigned to the fact that she'll never
meet anyone. Her confidence is completely gone. She's so done in by the
entire game that she doesn't even go out at weekends. (This of course makes
it worse.)
It is said that boys have to be forced to work at school, because they
don't know what's good for them.
Frankly, having seen some women I really care about, resigned to facing
the last 40 years of their life single, childless, and eventually
incontinent in a home, with alzheimer's disease, I feel feminism has
a lot to answer for.
The fact that Hewitt still pushes women to work on jobs they don't want
to do, amazes me. It's like... (Let's get these girls out fending for
themselves, and men won't have power over them.)
How ridiculous! Fucking the future of women for its cause.
What's really galling, is that none of these women doing the pushing,
Mellor nor Hewitt, are single feminists as far as I'm aware. They are
married with kids. (Fucking up their children's lives by not being
around for them.) It's the poor impressionable girls who end up screwed.
Feminism. Improving the lives of our youth.
Bob
> stuart <nos...@thanks.com> wrote in message news:<3E3E485C...@thanks.com>...
>
>>I couldn't pick a favourite quote from this article...there's just too
>>many.
>>
>>go to:
>>http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30830
>
>
> The irony. Some of the nicest women I know are still single.
>
> Feminism talked them into concentrating on their careers. Patricia's
> still doing it, unashamed.
>
> I had lunch yesterday, with couple trying for children. She's 40 and gutted.
> She fucked about for fifteen years, and now is so close to remaining childless.
> The menopause is forever.
What a shame. Feminism has destroyed her chance for a family. The
prime breeding years for women are 16 to 26. After that their fertility
declines rapidly. Feminism has made any man who mates with women during
the first half of their prime breeding years into a "pedophile"
criminal. It has encouraged women to pursue careers other than
motherhood and families during the last part of their prime breeding
years. Menopause is indeed forever. The feminists get what they richly
deserve. They get to be old, tired, wrinkled, lonely old maidens. No
family, no children, and nobody gives a shit.
> One of my best friends, 38, is now resigned to the fact that she'll never
> meet anyone. Her confidence is completely gone. She's so done in by the
> entire game that she doesn't even go out at weekends. (This of course makes
> it worse.)
She's twenty years too late. She should have started looking for a man
when she was 16, when her biological clock was ready to make babies. Boo
Hoo. Feminist hate is its own reward.
> It is said that boys have to be forced to work at school, because they
> don't know what's good for them.
>
> Frankly, having seen some women I really care about, resigned to facing
> the last 40 years of their life single, childless, and eventually
> incontinent in a home, with alzheimer's disease, I feel feminism has
> a lot to answer for.
Frankly, I don't care about those women who spent their best years
believing misandry and preaching hate instead of trying to be the best
wives and partner they could be. They are reaping their well earned
reward.
> The fact that Hewitt still pushes women to work on jobs they don't want
> to do, amazes me. It's like... (Let's get these girls out fending for
> themselves, and men won't have power over them.)
LOL. She and her sisters are creating more failures among women.
Serves her and them right.
> How ridiculous! Fucking the future of women for its cause.
>
> What's really galling, is that none of these women doing the pushing,
> Mellor nor Hewitt, are single feminists as far as I'm aware. They are
> married with kids. (Fucking up their children's lives by not being
> around for them.) It's the poor impressionable girls who end up screwed.
>
> Feminism. Improving the lives of our youth.
Hate rewards the haters more than the hated. The mass of women are the
problem, not the few leaders. It is a misconception to believe that the
leaders are responsible. They only flow to the front of the charging
mass and become visible. Its the charging mass of hate mongers who are
getting rewarded. Let them die old and alone. LOL!
Bob
OffLine
being romantically involved with an intelligent, educated,
upper-middle-class American woman steeped in 20 years of feminist
indoctrination is about as desirable as being flayed alive and rolled in
salt."
I think that would do for a cracking quote :)
Bob
> "Furthermore, the smarter a man is, the more he is likely to realize that
> being romantically involved with an intelligent, educated,
> upper-middle-class American woman steeped in 20 years of feminist
> indoctrination is about as desirable as being flayed alive and rolled in
> salt."
>
> I think that would do for a cracking quote :)
True. A wise man would do better shopping for a wife at the guerilla
cage of the Bronx zoo.
Bob
Sunny
wrote:
>"Furthermore, the smarter a man is, the more he is likely to realize that
>being romantically involved with an intelligent, educated,
>upper-middle-class American woman steeped in 20 years of feminist
>indoctrination is about as desirable as being flayed alive and rolled in
>salt."
>
>I think that would do for a cracking quote :)
Or even a sig line. Classic stuff!
(I'd just like to say, for the record, that I fit that exact
description -- up to, but not including, the word "steeped." :o)
Hot Frog
> I couldn't pick a favourite quote from this article...there's just too
> many.
>
> go to:
> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30830
This guy has been there, hasn't he?
-------------
Your rights are delineated in the Constitution. Everything else is a
privilege.
Your family has to put up with you. For everyone else, it's optional.
Southern belles always get what they want. Watch and learn, grasshopper.
Sex as an incentive is fair enough. Using its deprivation as a punishment
will backfire hideously.
Mocking your man in public creates a no-win situation. He can either
slice and dice you verbally, which is no fun for you, or keep his mouth
shut and look like an idiot. In the case of the latter, it doesn't mean
that you've won, or that he's forgotten.
Men love happy women. Act happy and you may discover how to be happy.
If there's a doubt, choose the most optimistic interpretation. That's
what he meant.
Honey, honey, honey – a thousand times honey. Never vinegar.
Conflict is not passion. It isn't any fun, either.
Limit yourself to five complaints and demands a day. If you're not
counting, you're over the limit.
If no one ever taught you the traditional arts, find an older woman to be
your mentor.
Your feelings and objectively verifiable facts may be different. Learn to
distinguish between them.
Chris Raum
"OffLine" <a...@123.com> wrote in message
news:b1mcon$ct5$1...@sparta.btinternet.com...
> "Furthermore, the smarter a man is, the more he is likely to realize that
> being romantically involved with an intelligent, educated,
> upper-middle-class American woman steeped in 20 years of feminist
> indoctrination is about as desirable as being flayed alive and rolled in
> salt."
>
> I think that would do for a cracking quote :)
Ha ha! I'm always looking to expand my file...
Marxism: From each according to his ability to each according to his need
Feminism: From each according to his ability to each according to HER need
"Men are stupid. Women are insane" -Matt Groening
"The Victorian era and Feminism demand that women are beatific dolts,
angelic losers, and saintly weaklings." -?
"This is soc.men, we know better." -Michael Snyder
"25% of American men kiss their wives goodbye when leaving the house. 99% of
them kiss their houses goodbye when leaving the wife." -?
"The Martian Language has twelve words for 'husband'... fourteen for
"father." Hearing their music again has been a siren's song" - J'onn J'onzz
Ad Feminim: To point out a flaw in Feminist logic.
Misogynist: The person who pointed out the flaw.
"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you
handy." -Red Green
"Hhhock spitooee!!! I Spit on phlegminists!"
Misogynist: A man who is winning an argument with a Feminist.
"After the Feminist movement, you'd think they'd have the courtesy to
flush." -Aric
"There are no Feminists when the lifeboats are lowered." -Per
"We are a generation of men raised by women. Somehow I wonder if another
woman is really the answer we need." Tyler Durden - Fight Club
"You are women. Cunning... deceit... treachery... manipulation... guile...
these are your stock in trade. But, they make a poor shield against a hard
blade and a murderous impulse." -Cerebus #176
"Living well is the best revenge." -George Herbert
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing." -- Attributed to Edmund Burke [1729-1797]
"First they came for the fathers but I was not a father so I did not speak
out; Then they came for the husbands and the boyfriends but I was not one of
them, so I did not speak out; Then they came for the boys but I was not boy
so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to
speak out for me." - After Martin Niemoller, 1892-1984
"There was never a more dangerous combination in Western society than female
chauvinism and male chivalry" -CRR
"The charge of misogyny is based on Feminism's understandable desire to
render its tenents and dogmas beyond question or comment." CRR
"Feminists hate men and use them to allow women to lay blame on for their
failures. Women hate Feminists and use them to allow women to lay blame on
for their failures." - CRR
"Being a Feminist means never having to say you're sorry -
Being a man means never having to say you're sorry to a Feminist" -CRR
"If a troll squeals with impotent rage from the depths of your kill file...
does he still get points for his secret decoder ring?" CRR
Sunny
Thank you for posting this, Chris. It's a keeper!
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 14:58:21 -0800, "Chris Raum" <cr...@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
Ian
> Ian wrote:
> > stuart <nos...@thanks.com> wrote in message news:<3E3E485C...@thanks.com>...
> >
> >>I couldn't pick a favourite quote from this article...there's just too
> >>many.
> >>
> >>go to:
> >>http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30830
> >
> >
> > The irony. Some of the nicest women I know are still single.
> >
> > Feminism talked them into concentrating on their careers. Patricia's
> > still doing it, unashamed.
> >
> > I had lunch yesterday, with couple trying for children. She's 40 and gutted.
> > She fucked about for fifteen years, and now is so close to remaining childless.
> > The menopause is forever.
>
> What a shame. Feminism has destroyed her chance for a family. The
> prime breeding years for women are 16 to 26. After that their fertility
> declines rapidly. Feminism has made any man who mates with women during
> the first half of their prime breeding years into a "pedophile"
> criminal. It has encouraged women to pursue careers other than
> motherhood and families during the last part of their prime breeding
> years. Menopause is indeed forever. The feminists get what they richly
> deserve. They get to be old, tired, wrinkled, lonely old maidens. No
> family, no children, and nobody gives a shit.
I agree in part. However...
She wasn't part of any feminist movement, and under different circumstances,
she'd have been a mother several times over. (I simply wouldn't speak to
her otherwise.) She's a victim, and like many of the other women who
were fucked over by the "You can have it all" Lie, we need their help
to ruin the career of Hewitt et al.
We can't have it both ways, if women are feminine then they are bound to
get pushed. If they are feminist, that's a different story.
>
>
> > One of my best friends, 38, is now resigned to the fact that she'll never
> > meet anyone. Her confidence is completely gone. She's so done in by the
> > entire game that she doesn't even go out at weekends. (This of course makes
> > it worse.)
>
> She's twenty years too late. She should have started looking for a man
> when she was 16, when her biological clock was ready to make babies. Boo
> Hoo. Feminist hate is its own reward.
Again, she was fucked over by the dream. It's interesting to note that
her younger sisters have learned from their mistakes. It's them, and us,
that will remove gender feminism.
>
>
> > It is said that boys have to be forced to work at school, because they
> > don't know what's good for them.
> >
> > Frankly, having seen some women I really care about, resigned to facing
> > the last 40 years of their life single, childless, and eventually
> > incontinent in a home, with alzheimer's disease, I feel feminism has
> > a lot to answer for.
>
> Frankly, I don't care about those women who spent their best years
> believing misandry and preaching hate instead of trying to be the best
> wives and partner they could be. They are reaping their well earned
> reward.
Not all women hate men Bob. You should know me better than to know I'd
have personal friends of either sex who are hateful bastards.
>
>
> > The fact that Hewitt still pushes women to work on jobs they don't want
> > to do, amazes me. It's like... (Let's get these girls out fending for
> > themselves, and men won't have power over them.)
>
> LOL. She and her sisters are creating more failures among women.
> Serves her and them right.
Well I agree in part, Hewitt, Mellor et al truly are removing a fuck of
a lot of choices from women. (and all choice from men.) That's why they're
going down.
>
>
> > How ridiculous! Fucking the future of women for its cause.
> >
> > What's really galling, is that none of these women doing the pushing,
> > Mellor nor Hewitt, are single feminists as far as I'm aware. They are
> > married with kids. (Fucking up their children's lives by not being
> > around for them.) It's the poor impressionable girls who end up screwed.
> >
> > Feminism. Improving the lives of our youth.
>
> Hate rewards the haters more than the hated. The mass of women are the
> problem, not the few leaders. It is a misconception to believe that the
> leaders are responsible. They only flow to the front of the charging
> mass and become visible. Its the charging mass of hate mongers who are
> getting rewarded. Let them die old and alone. LOL!
Not true. The leaders are the problem. Greer, Steinem, Dworkin, they have
loads of money. The women they've misled still earn less than men (for
obviously fair reasons,) but also most of them, are or have missed the
chance of children. It's fortunately natural selection at work. Feminism
can offer no more to women, as all that men have has been taken.
These women are going to look pretty fucking stupid, when we take it back.
>
> Bob
Hyerdahl
>From: stuart nos...@thanks.com
>Date: 2/3/2003 2:45 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <3E3E485C...@thanks.com>
>
>I couldn't pick a favourite quote from this article...there's just too
>many.
It's what was NOT said that makes the article worth reading, i.e. that all
those smart professional women HAVE a life that doesn't depend on a man. They
can take one or leave one. So, for professional women, it's a buyer's
market.
>
>go to:
>http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30830
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hyerdahl
>From: dra...@hotmail.com (Ian)
>Date: 2/3/2003 6:46 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <d33ce629.03020...@posting.google.com>
>
>stuart <nos...@thanks.com> wrote in message
>news:<3E3E485C...@thanks.com>...
>> I couldn't pick a favourite quote from this article...there's just too
>> many.
>>
>> go to:
>> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30830
>
>The irony. Some of the nicest women I know are still single.
Single women have little reason to NOT be nice.
>
>Feminism talked them into concentrating on their careers. Patricia's>still
doing it, unashamed.
No problem. A woman's life's work should be important to her, no matter what
she has chosen.
>>I had lunch yesterday, with couple trying for children. She's 40 and gutted.
He's probably in his forties too, and both of them are likely able to adopt.
>She fucked about for fifteen years, and now is so close to
remaining>childless.
>The menopause is forever.
>
Nah. Just the other day a 55 year old woman gave birth. Women are choosing.
>One of my best friends, 38, is now resigned to the fact that she'll never>meet
anyone. Her confidence is completely gone. She's so done in by the entire game
that she doesn't even go out at weekends. (This of course makes
>it worse.)
>
Are you really trying to convince us that "old maids" were part of feminism?
Looks like a single woman can be a bachlorette in today's generation, AND have
her life's work as well.
Nothing is lost.
(Edit for brevity)
>Frankly, having seen some women I really care about, resigned to facing the
last 40 years of their life single, childless, and eventually
>incontinent in a home, with alzheimer's disease, I feel feminism has >a lot to
answer for.
How do you account for the fact that most of our nation's homeless are aging
single MEN?
Feminism provides women with choice; what they do with that choice is up to
them and NOT up to you.
>
Blair Zajac
<hyer...@cs.com> wrote:
> >Subject: Spiting their pretty faces
> >From: stuart nos...@thanks.com
> >Date: 2/3/2003 2:45 AM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: <3E3E485C...@thanks.com>
> >
> >I couldn't pick a favourite quote from this article...there's just too
> >many.
>
> It's what was NOT said that makes the article worth reading, i.e. that all
> those smart professional women HAVE a life that doesn't depend on a man. They
> can take one or leave one. So, for professional women, it's a buyer's
> market.
>
I think that Hyerdahl has missed the point: these professional women do
*not* have a choice of whether or not to have a man, once past a given
age, they effectively have a life only without a man. So, in no way is
it a buyer's market.
There is nothing special about snugging up to a progress report on a
cold, wintery day after work.
Chris Raum
"Sunny" <mas...@facstaff.wisc.edu> wrote in message
news:sdjt3v0bo6anmve1l...@4ax.com...
> (top-posting)
>
> Thank you for posting this, Chris. It's a keeper!
Heh heh. You're welcome, Sunny. It's a living file. Feminists are always
giving me more and more material.
[...]
-Chris Raum
gary o brien
> >Subject: Spiting their pretty faces
> >From: stuart nos...@thanks.com
> >Date: 2/3/2003 2:45 AM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: <3E3E485C...@thanks.com>
> >
> >I couldn't pick a favourite quote from this article...there's just too
> >many.
>
> It's what was NOT said that makes the article worth reading, i.e. that all
> those smart professional women HAVE a life that doesn't depend on a man. They
> can take one or leave one. So, for professional women, it's a buyer's
> market.
men can do everything a women can do! oh and still have children for much longer
<G>
rogue
>
> >
> >go to:
> >http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30830
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
Ian
> >Subject: Re: Spiting their pretty faces
> >From: dra...@hotmail.com (Ian)
> >Date: 2/3/2003 6:46 AM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: <d33ce629.03020...@posting.google.com>
> >
> >stuart <nos...@thanks.com> wrote in message
> >news:<3E3E485C...@thanks.com>...
> >> I couldn't pick a favourite quote from this article...there's just too
> >> many.
> >>
> >> go to:
> >> http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30830
> >
> >The irony. Some of the nicest women I know are still single.
>
> Single women have little reason to NOT be nice.
Quite. Acting miserable's not going to get them married.
> >>I had lunch yesterday, with couple trying for children. She's 40 and gutted.
>
> He's probably in his forties too, and both of them are likely able to adopt.
Assuming both her and he want to fund someone else's babymaking
exploits.
(It's just funny how some people who have what they want can tell
people who
haven't what they want, that they don't want it.)
> >She fucked about for fifteen years, and now is so close to
> remaining>childless.
> >The menopause is forever.
> >
> Nah. Just the other day a 55 year old woman gave birth. Women are choosing.
Birth at 55 isn't choosing, it's condemning.
>
> >One of my best friends, 38, is now resigned to the fact that she'll never>meet
> anyone. Her confidence is completely gone. She's so done in by the entire game
> that she doesn't even go out at weekends. (This of course makes
> >it worse.)
> >
> Are you really trying to convince us that "old maids" were part of feminism?
> Looks like a single woman can be a bachlorette in today's generation, AND have
> her life's work as well.
> Nothing is lost.
Oh. So you're telling me I'm wrong then, and that she's really happy
really!
> How do you account for the fact that most of our nation's homeless are aging
> single MEN?
Feminism.
> Feminism provides women with choice; what they do with that choice is up to
> them and NOT up to you.
So it's not about equality then? Men don't have the choices women have
because feminism obliges men to pay for the women's.
Sunny
>Nah. Just the other day a 55 year old woman gave birth. Women are choosing.
Choosing to be elderly or dead by the time the child is graduating
from high school, you mean. Great family planning, there.
edwal
> >Subject: Spiting their pretty faces
> >From: stuart nos...@thanks.com
> >Date: 2/3/2003 2:45 AM Pacific Standard Time
> >Message-id: <3E3E485C...@thanks.com>
> >
> >I couldn't pick a favourite quote from this article...there's just too
> >many.
>
> It's what was NOT said that makes the article worth reading, i.e. that all
> those smart professional women HAVE a life that doesn't depend on a man. They
> can take one or leave one. So, for professional women, it's a buyer's
> market.
Are you sure? Let's read the title of the book:
"Why There Are No Good Men Left: The Romantic Plight of the New Single
Woman"
That doesn't sound like a buyer's market, does it? Looks like what
they want to "buy" is not on sale.
And, are you sure they "can take or leave one"? according to this
book, those men whose these smart professional women want to take
*don't want* to be taken, and that's the big problem. For them,
anyway. Meanwhile, men will keep avoiding them. And no amount of
ranting will call them back.
>
> >
> >go to:
> >http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30830
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
T
Yep, they're making choices all right-some of them. What Parg failes
to mention is that only the rich ones get this choice. A retarded
choice, but a choice never the less.
--
.:Tony:.
Mrs. Tul
news:b57b4077.03020...@posting.google.com...
> hyer...@cs.com (Hyerdahl) wrote in message
news:<20030203212352...@mb-cf.news.cs.com>...
> > >Subject: Spiting their pretty faces
> > >From: stuart nos...@thanks.com
> > >Date: 2/3/2003 2:45 AM Pacific Standard Time
> > >Message-id: <3E3E485C...@thanks.com>
> > >
> > >I couldn't pick a favourite quote from this article...there's just too
> > >many.
> >
> > It's what was NOT said that makes the article worth reading, i.e. that
all
> > those smart professional women HAVE a life that doesn't depend on a man.
They
> > can take one or leave one. So, for professional women, it's a buyer's
> > market.
>
> men can do everything a women can do! oh and still have children for much
longer
> <G>
> rogue
Really? So when did men become able to carry a child inside of them for
nine months (give or take) and then give birth? Breast feed? Have a
monthly menstrual cycle? I would pay to see that!
--
Sincerely,
Mrs. Tul
Amanda Herzberg
herself? I want a career, that's why I'm currently in college, and a
chemistry major no less. A field that is male-dominated. But this is one
thing I have noticed from my dating experiences. Men don't like to have a
woman who is smarter than them or more successful. It angers them. One of
my boyrfriends who was in the same class as me would get pissed off at me
for getting better grades than him. I only did better because I studied and
he did not. Many males are just intimidated by successful females. It's
not the female's fault for wanting to be successful. The male just needs to
get over his ego and accept that there might be females out their who are
smarter and more successful than them.
"Bob" <bobx...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3E3E9938...@hotmail.com...
Bob
> What's so wrong about a woman having a career and being able to support
> herself?
Did anyone say there was anything wrong with a career?
>I want a career, that's why I'm currently in college, and a
> chemistry major no less. A field that is male-dominated.
My HS girlfriend was a math major. She had a successful career in IT
while raising three kids.
> But this is one
> thing I have noticed from my dating experiences. Men don't like to have a
> woman who is smarter than them or more successful.
TILT. Just when you were on a roll you go and start spewing misandry.
Men don't like misandrist feminists. [Hint: It's not your brains that
men don't like about you. Its your misandrist attitude.]
> It angers them. One of
> my boyrfriends who was in the same class as me would get pissed off at me
> for getting better grades than him.
Nope. Its your attitude. Men don't mind smart women, but nobody likes
a smartass of either sex. Men especially don't like smartass
misandrists. If you are really half as smart as you claim that concept
ought not tax your gray matter. DUH!
> I only did better because I studied and
> he did not. Many males are just intimidated by successful females.
Nope. But most men are disgusted with smartass misandrist females. I
hope they leave you home sitting on it until you figure that out.
> It's
> not the female's fault for wanting to be successful.
It is her fault for being a sexist bigot.
> The male just needs to
> get over his ego and accept that there might be females out their who are
> smarter and more successful than them.
The men aren't going to want you, smart or dumb, until you drop the
stupid bigotry and become a woman that a man would want to spend time
with. That doesn't take half as many brains as you claim to have.
Bob
Philip Lewis
being romantically involved with an intelligent, educated,
upper-middle-class American woman steeped in 20 years of feminist
indoctrination is about as desirable as being flayed alive and rolled in
Read the whole article at:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30830
--
Phil
"Man is his own star; and the soul that can
Render an honest and a perfect man,
Commands all light, all influence, all fate;
Nothing to him falls early or too late.
Our acts our angels are, or good or ill,
Our fatal shadows that walk by us still."
(Ralph Waldo Emerson)
Links:
http://www.angryharry.com/
http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/
http://www.kittennews.com/vgo4/frameset4a.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/silenced-majority/
http://www.nas.com/c4m/faq.html#references
http://privat.ub.uib.no/bubsy/Bakom1E.htm
http://personal.w-link.net/parkertr/home.asp
http://www.menshealthnetwork.org/library/Library_MHN.htm#congressandother
Apples - food for thought!
(Len Firewood 2001)
Philip Lewis
not show up on mine - hence I am posting it again - Phil)
Philip Lewis
| being romantically involved with an intelligent, educated,
| upper-middle-class American woman steeped in 20 years of feminist
| indoctrination is about as desirable as being flayed alive and rolled in
| salt."
|
| I think that would do for a cracking quote :)
Good grief!! I really should spend more time reading what has been posted
before - I just posted a link to that article and I chose the exact same
quote as an introduction!!
Phil
Ian
> What's so wrong about a woman having a career and being able to support
> herself? I want a career, that's why I'm currently in college, and a
> chemistry major no less. A field that is male-dominated. But this is one
> thing I have noticed from my dating experiences. Men don't like to have a
> woman who is smarter than them or more successful. It angers them. One of
> my boyrfriends who was in the same class as me would get pissed off at me
> for getting better grades than him. I only did better because I studied and
> he did not. Many males are just intimidated by successful females. It's
> not the female's fault for wanting to be successful. The male just needs to
> get over his ego and accept that there might be females out their who are
> smarter and more successful than them.
<Troll Mode=Off>
I agree, some men don't like intellectual women (I'm not one of them,
all the women I've loved have been extremely high functioning,) but
while this argument has some validity, it's mostly irrelevant, because
most of the women who become successful, want a man who is more
successful than they are. It's chicken and egg, there's no reason
(apart from fear of rejection) for men's fear of a more successful
woman. There is however a real reason for women's fear of less
successful men, notably, she's the one that gives up work to have
children.
I found it very difficult to find a wife, because firstly, I value
women as equals (in intelligence at least), and there are so few women
up here with me. (Please note intelligence is born, I did nothing to
deserve my position.)
Secondly, I'm no oil painting, and so any woman who's that clever
could easily get a man who has looks and intelligence. It was
therefore unsurprising that I married late.
There are a few women who are very clever, but most of the seriously
clever people I know are men. Men are competitive by their nature,
just like men should recognise that women's selfishness is actually a
good thing, (selfish women are generally better providers to children
because they consider their children part of themselves usually,) then
the men who get angry with you for beating them are doing so because
of their competitive instinct. I'd marry one of them if I were you.
When you leave Uni, you'll find they grow up and stop messing about.
When that happens your assumption that you get better grades (just)
because you work harder, will be confirmed. Your wish to work hard, to
prove you can be the best you can be, will be outstripped by their
(absolutely unbelievable to women's) obsession with beating other men
in the earning stakes.
College for many boys, is a drinking competition, (it was for me too.)
It's important for you to realise that it's completely normal
behaviour for them, to be irritated by your success. Your post betrays
a keen sense of observation, and sound grasp of logic, I imagine you
would have made a truly great psychologist.
Bob
>
>
>
> What sort of selfish bitch wants her 15-year-old child to have a
> mother aged 70?
It was probably a total surprise. Claiming it to be choosing is
dreamland. Women that age assume they can do all the sex they want with
no trap of pregnancy.
Bob
>>Are you really trying to convince us that "old maids" were part of feminism?
>
>
> They still are. Feminism has reduced the number of females who marry
> and increased the number who divorce.
>
>
>>Looks like a single woman can be a bachlorette in today's generation, AND have
>>her life's work as well.
>>Nothing is lost.
>
>
> Except that females get lonely in their old age. Men don't care so
> much.
>
>
>>How do you account for the fact that most of our nation's homeless are aging
>>single MEN?
>
>
> That's because the social services are almost entirely devoted to
> helping females. A female alone on the street? Get her some help! A
> man alone on the street? Who cares!.
>
>
>>Feminism provides women with choice; what they do with that choice is up to
>>them and NOT up to you.
>
>
> That would sound much better if females had any choices that weren't
> permitted by men. Every choice a female makes, whether it's to vote,
> to get an education or to dress like a man, is completely reliant on
> the goodwill of men. Should men ever decide to restrict female choices
> then no amount of feminism will get those choices back.
>
> It looks increasingly likely that we're going to see a period of
> severely restricted choice for females. Feminism, like its twin
> sister, communism, isn't economically viable. Moreover, younger men
> are getting sick of it.
A lot of older men are sick of it too.
Bob
Bob
> On 04 Feb 2003 02:23:52 GMT, hyer...@cs.com (Hyerdahl) wrote:
>
>
>>>Subject: Spiting their pretty faces
>>>From: stuart nos...@thanks.com
>>>Date: 2/3/2003 2:45 AM Pacific Standard Time
>>>Message-id: <3E3E485C...@thanks.com>
>>>
>>>I couldn't pick a favourite quote from this article...there's just too
>>>many.
>>
>>It's what was NOT said that makes the article worth reading, i.e. that all
>>those smart professional women HAVE a life that doesn't depend on a man. They
>>can take one or leave one. So, for professional women, it's a buyer's
>>market.
>
>
> professional people all say that their clients are nearly all female.
> Professional men just don't have a problem finding a partner so the
> female professionals get left on the shelf.
>
> Maybe it's because men aren't so picky. We don't expect to be
> supported by a female so we just pick one who doesn't whine a lot.
That's pretty much the case in the US too. Few men want a hardass
feminsit bitch career woman for a wife.
Bob
Bob
> "...Furthermore, the smarter a man is, the more he is likely to realize that
> being romantically involved with an intelligent, educated,
> upper-middle-class American woman steeped in 20 years of feminist
> indoctrination is about as desirable as being flayed alive and rolled in
> salt..."
> Read the whole article at:
> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=30830
>
> --
> Phil
Good quote. Will they never learn.
Bob
Sharon B
Yah, cause those are the types that get the credit cards in their name
only so the hubby can't run down to Bed Bath and Beyond and buy those
frilly things without wifey's permission. Ain't that right, Bob.
Bob
QED
Lee
> herself? I want a career, that's why I'm currently in college, and a
> chemistry major no less. A field that is male-dominated. But this is one
> thing I have noticed from my dating experiences. Men don't like to have a
> woman who is smarter than them or more successful.
Not true for me.
I dated a PhD Uni professor.
I didn't care about the degree or intelligence - it was her
occasioinal attitude that she had. One that is summed in 'If I have
an advanced degree, I am right and you should defer to me.'
I did not defer to her and she was stunned many times. I could only
assume that it is likely that she had only dated men who were push
overs, wimps and lacked testicular fortitude - Pussies in other words.
It angers them. One of
> my boyrfriends who was in the same class as me would get pissed off at me
> for getting better grades than him. I only did better because I studied and
> he did not. Many males are just intimidated by successful females.
Horseshit.
Bitchy pushy women say this to justify their behavior.
I lived in Washington DC for 20 years and many of the women there
mistake being a pushy, aggravating, combative bitch for being strong
and capable.
They have said to me exactly what you posted above.
They weren't strong - they were pushy.
No man wants to date a woman who is always one-upping him and
competing with him and telling him what he cannot do - diminishing him
in other words.
Don't brag. Don't throw it in anyones' faces.
Be graceful be humble be quiet.
Defer.
Men do not do it to other men - why would you?
It's
> not the female's fault for wanting to be successful. The male just needs to
> get over his ego and accept that there might be females out their who are
> smarter and more successful than them.
This is not about ego - it is about how you present yourself and your
attitude.
and accept that there might be females out their who are
> smarter and more successful than them.
I have no problem with this ever.
However - if you and I were to go on a date (a completely unlikely
scenario) and you insisted on constantly wanting to be in charge, or
being critical, or diminishing men with how you can do such and so or
men have ego's to get over, or bashing men in any way whatsoever -
the evening would be over.
You can act like that as much as you want to.
You just won't be dating me.
edwal
> herself? I want a career, that's why I'm currently in college, and a
> chemistry major no less. A field that is male-dominated. But this is one
> thing I have noticed from my dating experiences. Men don't like to have a
> woman who is smarter than them or more successful. It angers them. One of
Let's see. I can imagine you in a date: "I'm smarter than you, men
don't like smarter women, my field is male-dominated, I'm an oppressed
woman, and whatever I say is right and if you don't agree with me is
only because you are a bigot, macho-chauvinist and women oppressor".
Meanwhile, the guy is thinking "who the hell this woman think she is?"
and after that she begins: "I have a better job than you, I earn more
money than you, and you must be grateful of me looking down to your
unworthy person" I simply can't imagine why he doesn't invite you out
a second time.
And another thing: Yes, you are a successful career woman. But why do
you have to rub it in his nose all the time? That's what angers us,
not the fact of you being successful.
> my boyrfriends who was in the same class as me would get pissed off at me
> for getting better grades than him. I only did better because I studied and
> he did not. Many males are just intimidated by successful females. It's
> not the female's fault for wanting to be successful. The male just needs to
It's the fault of the woman for being pushy, obnoxious and dominant.
Let me correct that: It's the fault of *some* women. You see, some
professional women think that they can boss everybody around,
specially if they have a successful career. That's because a
successful professional woman probably have people working under her,
and she can push them around, boss them, and make them make her will.
But that's only by one reason: She *pays* them.
But in a relationship, you don't *pay* the man to be bossed around, so
you can't boss him. Unfortunately, these women think that they can, so
they do it. And when he says *enough!* and leaves, they can't believe
it.
> get over his ego and accept that there might be females out their who are
> smarter and more successful than them.
Translation: he must accept to be bossed around even if he is not my
employee but my mate. OK, let's say your are right, we men must accept
successful women. And we do. But we don't *have* to date them. It's
our right, isn't it?
>
<snip>
James Buster
> "Amanda Herzberg" <herz...@purdue.edu> wrote in message news:<b1p7pp$a9c$1...@mozo.cc.purdue.edu>...
>>for getting better grades than him. I only did better because I studied and
>>he did not. Many males are just intimidated by successful females. It's
>>not the female's fault for wanting to be successful. The male just needs to
>
>
> It's the fault of the woman for being pushy, obnoxious and dominant.
It's not women being dominant that "intimidates" men,
it's that so many women are *domineering* towards men.
Philip Lewis
| herself? I want a career, that's why I'm currently in college, and a
| chemistry major no less. A field that is male-dominated. But this is one
| thing I have noticed from my dating experiences. Men don't like to have a
| woman who is smarter than them or more successful. It angers them.
What angers men is PEOPLE of either sex that think they ARE what they do
instead of BEING what they are.
Who knows one day you may grow up and learn enough humility to understand
that.
Phil
Hot Frog
> One of my best friends, 38, is now resigned to the fact that she'll never
> meet anyone. Her confidence is completely gone. She's so done in by the
> entire game that she doesn't even go out at weekends. (This of course makes
> it worse.)
I get that from women all the time. My wife is a top level professional
woman, and hangs out with attorneys and executives and such. She is the
ONLY one that is married. They keep angling for invitations to meet her
husband, wondering what kind of man it takes to be married to a top
executive. The fact is, I'm just an ordinary guy, it is my wife who is
extraordinary. She actually likes men.
When the conversation comes around to how to meet guys (a persistent
theme) I tell them all they have to do is do what guys do. I suggest
they join the local rod and gun club and spend Saturday afternoons
shooting, or join the local mycological society and go on forays, or join
the local amateur astronomers club and go to star parties. I am sure
Andre would attest to the number of single men at science fiction
conventions.
From their reaction, you would think I suggested they learn to breathe
water. They really don't like men and don't like the things men do.
Shrug. It's not my problem.
Andre Lieven
> dra...@hotmail.com (Ian) writes:
>
>> One of my best friends, 38, is now resigned to the fact that she'll never
>> meet anyone. Her confidence is completely gone. She's so done in by the
>> entire game that she doesn't even go out at weekends. (This of course makes
>> it worse.)
>
> I get that from women all the time. My wife is a top level professional
> woman, and hangs out with attorneys and executives and such. She is the
> ONLY one that is married. They keep angling for invitations to meet her
> husband, wondering what kind of man it takes to be married to a top
> executive. The fact is, I'm just an ordinary guy, it is my wife who is
> extraordinary. She actually likes men.
Imagine that. <g>
> When the conversation comes around to how to meet guys (a persistent
> theme) I tell them all they have to do is do what guys do. I suggest
> they join the local rod and gun club and spend Saturday afternoons
> shooting, or join the local mycological society and go on forays, or join
> the local amateur astronomers club and go to star parties. I am sure
> Andre would attest to the number of single men at science fiction
> conventions.
Indeed. Although, many sf cons these days have cose to parity, in men
and women's attending numbers. I couldn't tell you if they break down
evenly, as to married/unmarrieds of each sex, though.
And, I've not done too badly with cons as one of my dating locales...
:-)
> From their reaction, you would think I suggested they learn to breathe
> water. They really don't like men and don't like the things men do.
> Shrug. It's not my problem.
Indeed. It also shows how little interest such women have in meeting
men's wants and needs, halfway, if they can't even be bothered to
*meet* the men halfway...
Feh on those types of women.
Andre
--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.
Chris Raum
"Hot Frog" <hot...@teleport.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.18b058998...@news.earthlink.net...
Yup. Most of them want a cash/sperm dispensing appliance.
edwal
I don't think the problem is they "don't like" men. They "like" men,
but they "don't like" to work to get a man. Perhaps for some of them a
relationship is like getting an appliance or something like that, and
they think that they can "buy" a man in a store. Or, since they have
employees, they think their men are "employees" too, and they push
these men around, until men say "enough" and leave them.
Another explanation can be that perhaps they "don't know" how to get a
man. To be successful in the rat-race modern office, these executives
have to be pitiless, hard-feeling, coldly logical, impatient. In
brief, the kind of person that most of men don't want as a wife. And
all that feminist hate-speech doesn't help, either.
Or they "expect" men come to them, instead of the other way. Perhaps
some of them think: "I'm smart, successful, and not too old. I'm
entitled to a man". And they keep waiting... and waiting... and
WAITING.
Or perhaps, these women look "up" in their expectations, to people
more successful than them. But these successful men are not precisely
the image of the "pussy-whipped" man who accepts to be seated in a
restaurant table while she is telling him how bad is for women and how
evil are men. Those men are the kind that leaves her alone in the
table, asking herself why men are so bad. And moreover, these men have
a lot bigger pool of younger, prettier women to choose from.
> Shrug. It's not my problem.
As I said in another thread: these women can think they have a lot to
offer, but what they are offering is not what men want.
Ian
This is a good take on the situation in my opinion. In yesteryear,
women
had all kinds of books, and women used to gossip on coffee mornings
all
day about what men did, had, and wanted. Girls were always present at
these.
In the early eighties, feminism made its mark, and encouraged women to
think that they didn't need a man. (Ridiculous of course, if they ever
want children.)
The way they did it was through a massive campaign of denigration of
man, and a massive all round ego boosting "You're a woman, you can do
anything"
"You can do anything a man can do you can too", "All men are bastards"
etc.
(One can see this through sayings that were very popular, a woman
needs
a man, like a fish needs a bicycle, and songs, "It's my life.")
The women of this time, not only think they are the bees knees, they
genuinely believe they don't need a man, when they have problems, it's
a man's fault. etc. etc. It truly is a risk marrying such a woman,
because they were actively taught to regard men's things as
unimportant,
not worthwhile. You can do anything a man can do, that's important;
anything a man can do that a woman can't is "unimportant". Kids do
this,
I'm no good at it, let's do something else.
Feminists know that women will never make competitive brick layers,
road builders, firemen, and a whole host of manual jobs that are
necessary for society, so they try to change society's take on these,
in the fashion. "Well you may be able to fix my wiring, but I'm a
journalist, fashion critic, professor of social studies, <pick
anything>
and that requires brains you working class moron."; The problem with
men is that they just can't communicate, all they want to do is play
with cars, computers etc. [This is a very good way of rephrasing the
fact that women can't repair cars, roads, computers, and are very
good at communicating, in such a way that it sounds like building
society is somehow unimportant when compared to ever more obsession
with the meaning of a particular phrase, or a bit of body language.]
(One of the most famous examples of this was a 1984/5 Cosmo front
page,
which had a load of celebrities, all women tv presenters and the like,
which said, "OF COURSE I'M A FEMINIST" - My immediate thought was,
which
one do you call, when your waterpipe springs a leak.)
So on top of the unrealistic expectation, that they can do anything.
They imagine that the things they can't do (turning up in the middle
of the night, to fix a broken down car on the motorway and many
others;
moving the trees around in the garden that they've just "designed";
actually wiring into the mains the lights for their "creation of
ambience") to be just something irrelevant.
... and people who do irrelevant things are irrelevant.
Also they were told they could have it all. Like all things of
course women
Magazines shouted of the new man, the new man was kind and caring
and did the dishes. This was one of the biggest lies women tell, it
was that they wished their man would do all those things. The
implication
was that a man who did those things would be attractive to women,
but as anyone who watched feminists at college will know, the geeky
speccy, black wearing, vegan, apologist twats they hung around with
were still tall and lean, and had massive earning potential. So it
wasn't a man who does the cleaning they wanted. They wanted the man
they always fancied, tall, dark and handsome, to actually do more
housework. They were never going to drop the hunk they still fancied
for a kind man who cleaned, and was caring. I'm afraid those under 5ft
10,
just don't get them wet, feminist or not.
So having given up on this, they changed the law, it's still in
motion,
right now. The new laws allows the women to get the man's money and
blow
him out of her life if he doesn't do what she wants. So she gets to
have your knob, because she fancies you, but then you've had it.
"Don't wash up" = Irretreivable breakdown of marriage! move out
please,
leave the kids, send money, and keep out of my sex life. I'll see you
at our kid's wedding in 21 years time, but don't get involved in MY
parenting.
The facts of life are the same regardless, plus ca change, plus le
meme chose.
I'm afraid if you don't pull, you have nothing women want. In later
life, if you marry in later life to a woman who's on match.com, then
it's because they want your money. If they wanted you, then they'd
have let you chat
them up in the disco, like the men they did shag. They wouldn't have
waited until they'd all got married, and you had paid off your house
and car.
I'm afraid, many men have realised that these women are simply
bitches.
The tragedy of course is that some of them aren't. Attractiveness is
the
sum of a set of attributes, and the strength with which feminism was
making women hate men to advance their political cause, so was it
making men wary. Wary men don't marry plain women, there are a lot
of them out there.
Obviously I'm sympathethic to my unmarried friends, but there are many
women out there who were just asking for it. For them, well I guess
the
message is. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Told you so you fucking bitches.
> have to be pitiless, hard-feeling, coldly logical, impatient. In
> brief, the kind of person that most of men don't want as a wife. And
> all that feminist hate-speech doesn't help, either.
>
> Or they "expect" men come to them, instead of the other way. Perhaps
> some of them think: "I'm smart, successful, and not too old. I'm
> entitled to a man". And they keep waiting... and waiting... and
> WAITING.
Sure. Cosmo said... "yes you can do all those things, to attract a
man; but
only if you want JUST ANY OLD man" Suddenly they've realised that the
corrolary is that men also may not just want "ANY OLD WOMAN"
>
> Or perhaps, these women look "up" in their expectations, to people
> more successful than them. But these successful men are not precisely
> the image of the "pussy-whipped" man who accepts to be seated in a
> restaurant table while she is telling him how bad is for women and how
> evil are men. Those men are the kind that leaves her alone in the
Quite. "You are brilliant!" said cosmo, subtly forgetting to mention
that men may have their own opinions too.
> table, asking herself why men are so bad. And moreover, these men have
> a lot bigger pool of younger, prettier women to choose from.
>
> > Shrug. It's not my problem.
>
> As I said in another thread: these women can think they have a lot to
> offer, but what they are offering is not what men want.
Quite.
"You can do anything a man can do!" Well no you can't but even if you
could, men don't need your money thanks. If they want to perpetuate
their
genes, then they want a fertile womb, and a woman with the ambition to
raise them as a partnership.
Sharon B
>(One of the most famous examples of this was a 1984/5 Cosmo front
>page,
>which had a load of celebrities, all women tv presenters and the like,
>which said, "OF COURSE I'M A FEMINIST" - My immediate thought was,
>which
>one do you call, when your waterpipe springs a leak.)
There's your main problem, Ian. You take things from Cosmo and tv as
representations of RL.
That's because you're an idiot.
Lee
> > dra...@hotmail.com (Ian) writes:
> >
> > > One of my best friends, 38, is now resigned to the fact that she'll never
> > > meet anyone. Her confidence is completely gone. She's so done in by the
> > > entire game that she doesn't even go out at weekends. (This of course makes
> > > it worse.)
> >
> > I get that from women all the time. My wife is a top level professional
> > woman, and hangs out with attorneys and executives and such. She is the
> > ONLY one that is married. They keep angling for invitations to meet her
> > husband, wondering what kind of man it takes to be married to a top
> > executive. The fact is, I'm just an ordinary guy, it is my wife who is
> > extraordinary. She actually likes men.
> >
> > When the conversation comes around to how to meet guys (a persistent
> > theme) I tell them all they have to do is do what guys do. I suggest
> > they join the local rod and gun club and spend Saturday afternoons
> > shooting, or join the local mycological society and go on forays, or join
> > the local amateur astronomers club and go to star parties. I am sure
> > Andre would attest to the number of single men at science fiction
> > conventions.
> >
> > From their reaction, you would think I suggested they learn to breathe
> > water. They really don't like men and don't like the things men do.
>
> I don't think the problem is they "don't like" men. They "like" men,
> but they "don't like" to work to get a man.
This would support the current fad in speed dating/8-minute
dating/etc.
They don't want to put forth the time and effort, or heaven forfend
'waste' a Saturday night on a date that doesn't turn out as expected.
A friend of mine knows an organizer for a local speed dating event and
she is always short a man or two or three and I have gotten many calls
to fill in at the last minute.
A sample first convo - first 10 seconds:
"Hi I'm Lee. Hi I'm Janet. Do you want to have children?"
Honest to god. And 'Janet' was barely average looking and weighed 300
pounds.
Is it any wonder they are dateless and unmarried?
Perhaps for some of them a
> relationship is like getting an appliance or something like that,
Drive thru - no fuss no muss no effort expended.
and
> they think that they can "buy" a man in a store.
That's what Speed Dating is all about.
Or, since they have
> employees, they think their men are "employees" too, and they push
> these men around, until men say "enough" and leave them.
They have forgotten how to be feminine and female.
>
> Another explanation can be that perhaps they "don't know" how to get a
> man. To be successful in the rat-race modern office, these executives
> have to be pitiless, hard-feeling, coldly logical, impatient. In
> brief, the kind of person that most of men don't want as a wife. And
> all that feminist hate-speech doesn't help, either.
I don't treat women outside of work the way I treat them at work.
There's work behavior and social behaviour.
Women often forget this when they leave the office.
>
> Or they "expect" men come to them, instead of the other way. Perhaps
> some of them think: "I'm smart, successful, and not too old. I'm
> entitled to a man".
Yeah baby they DO think this, say this. I have heard this verbatim.
And they keep waiting... and waiting... and
> WAITING.
>
> Or perhaps, these women look "up" in their expectations, to people
> more successful than them.
Most women want to marry up.
Most women want to mary someone who earns 20%+ more than she.
Logically, the more successful she is the fewer potential mates she
has.
When Martha Stewart was worth 2 billion, there were only 425 people in
the world at or above her level. The vast majority of those are
married. Billionaires don't stay single for long if they want to pair
off....
But these successful men are not precisely
> the image of the "pussy-whipped" man who accepts to be seated in a
> restaurant table while she is telling him how bad is for women and how
> evil are men. Those men are the kind that leaves her alone in the
> table, asking herself why men are so bad. And moreover, these men have
> a lot bigger pool of younger, prettier women to choose from.
Sure. Wealthy men chose young beautiful women. That's how the world
works.
>
> > Shrug. It's not my problem.
>
> As I said in another thread: these women can think they have a lot to
> offer, but what they are offering is not what men want.
Right you are.
Lee
Ian
Which female plumber did you last call?
Sharon B
Sharon B.
Next stupid question?
Cricket
"Ian" <dra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:d33ce629.03021...@posting.google.com...
I can't believe at the prices they charge that anyone calls a plumber. It
ain't that difficult. (Though when I offered to teach John to sweat pipe the
other day, he looked at me like I'd lost my mind and said "Why the hell would
I want to do that? That's what I've got *you* for.")
Two houses full of plumbing and never had a sweat joint leak yet. Slightly
less successful with cast iron. (This would be the bad one to screw up with,
for those who've only dealt with plastic...)
Ian
Tut tut tut! Who did that then? What you need is a Johnson Coupling.
Ian
Why did you call yourself? Were you out to lunch?
Sharon B
I guess I /did/ order you to post your next stupid question. Nice to
see I have you so well trained.
Having had your stupidity in asserting plumbers are always male
displayed for all to see, are you now trying to suggest plumbers are
lazy, Idiot Ian?
Cricket
What I needed (way back then in my broke days) was to not be trying to redo a
bad job left to me by who knows who, using oakum I had for horseshoeing...Now
I cheat and use plastic, no leaks yet. John mostly does the waste pipes in
this house, so that helps maintain my record.
Ian
Why do you ask?
Sharon B
My Kook Parser is shorting out on some of your posts.
ng line altered
Greg
[...]
> How do you account for the fact that most of our nation's homeless are aging
> single MEN?
Hey Falderal,
You should ask tougher questions. This one is a slam dunk. <G>
"It will be seen from these figures that at the charity level men
outnumber
women by something like ten to one. The cause is presumably that
unemployment affects women less than men; also that any presentable
woman
can, in the last resort, attach herself to some MAN." (emphasis mine)
- George Orwell, "Down and Out in Paris and London."
[...]
Orwell was very generous to use "attach herself to" rather that "latch
on to" or "mooch off of."
Sharon B
Are you /really/ basing your proof on a work of fiction?
<rubs eyes, looks again>
Apparently you *are*.
Welcome to soc.men, you are in the right place.