A major relaxation of IVF rules was announced by ministers today.
The changes will make it easier for single people and lesbians to receive
fertility treatment on the NHS.
Well, it's official guys, we're now officially redundant. We're not needed
now.
Apart from, of course, working the dangerous jobs women don't want to do,
being cannon-fodder in times of war, paying the bulk of taxes to fund single
mothers and the taxpayer-funded IVF treatment for them, being extorted for
Child Support, building the air-conditioned offices for women to sit around
in filing their nails, policing the streets to keep women free from violent
criminals...anything unpleasant basically.
But having a stake in society, a role in children's lives, a position - at
the head of it or otherwise - in the family?
Forget about it.
posted by Duncan Idaho @ 5:42 PM
MCP, you forgot the forced slavery and grinders of war. Women love
that little vacation from men too.
> But having a stake in society, a role in children's lives, a position - at
> the head of it or otherwise - in the family?
>
> Forget about it.
> posted by Duncan Idaho @ 5:42 PM
Got that right Duncan.
Smitty
D.
--
=======================
Women have spent the last
30 years proving that men
have been right for the
last 30 centuries.
=======================
Women and children in an Iraq market place.
Smitty
Last time I checked, 'Lesbians' were human beings, deserving of equal
rights. I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
> Well, it's official guys, we're now officially redundant. We're not needed> now.
>
You either ARE a parent or you're NOT. It's not a matter of whether
you feel someone should be "needed". A good parent should always be
welcomed in the life a of a child. A child will cherish a good
parent, and have need of that person. The real issue seems to resolve
around the notion that a lesbian should also be able to choose to be a
parent. And they can and sometimes do.
> Apart from, of course, working the dangerous jobs women don't want to do,> being cannon-fodder in times of war, paying the bulk of taxes to fund single mothers and the taxpayer-funded IVF treatment for them, being extorted for
> Child Support, building the air-conditioned offices for women to sit around in filing their nails, policing the streets to keep women free from violent criminals...anything unpleasant basically.
Whine....whine....whine; I'm starting to think that these bitter
twitters are babies themselves. Poor dears don't seem to realize that
today women are in every aspect of work from building construction, to
architecture all the way to
doctors ...lawyers....teachers....cops....You just can't seem to keep
women down, Dave Sim cockpuppets.
>
> But having a stake in society, a role in children's lives, a position - at
> the head of it or otherwise - in the family?
>
Every human being has the right to procreate as he or she sees fit.
You don't have any right to determine the makeup of my family, nor
I ...of yours. Oh...that's rights, Dave Sim dosn't have a family
since Deni Loubert left. Sorry.
>http://eternalbachelor.blogspot.com/2007/05/dads-not-needed-says-british-gov
>ernment.html
>
> A major relaxation of IVF rules was announced by ministers today.
>
> The changes will make it easier for single people and lesbians to receive
>fertility treatment on the NHS.
>
>
>Well, it's official guys, we're now officially redundant. We're not needed
>now.
Great; it's better to be wanted than needed. It's more sincere.
John
The only thing that's "down" with wimmin Parg, is their panties! :-)
Amen to that!
>
> John
>
>
> > On May 17, 10:32 pm, "MCP" <gf010w5...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>http://eternalbachelor.blogspot.com/2007/05/dads-not-needed-says-brit...
> >> ernment.html
>
> >> A major relaxation of IVF rules was announced by ministers today.
>
> >> The changes will make it easier for single people and lesbians to
> >> receive fertility treatment on the NHS.
>
> > Last time I checked, 'Lesbians' were human beings, deserving of equal> rights. I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
>
> >> Well, it's official guys, we're now officially redundant. We're not
> >> needed> now.
>
> > You either ARE a parent or you're NOT. It's not a matter of whether you feel someone should be "needed". A good parent should always be> welcomed in the life a of a child. A child will cherish a good parent, and have need of that person. The real issue seems to resolve
around the notion that a lesbian should also be able to choose to be
a> parent. And they can and sometimes do.
>
> >> Apart from, of course, working the dangerous jobs women don't want to> do,> being cannon-fodder in times of war, paying the bulk of taxes to fund single mothers and the taxpayer-funded IVF treatment for them, being
> extorted for>> Child Support, building the air-conditioned offices for women to sit> around in filing their nails, policing the streets to keep women free
> >> from violent criminals...anything unpleasant basically.
>
> > Whine....whine....whine; I'm starting to think that these bitter twitters are babies themselves. Poor dears don't seem to realize that today women are in every aspect of work from building construction, to> architecture all the way to doctors ...lawyers....teachers....cops....You just can't seem to keep> women down, Dave Sim cockpuppets.
>
> The only thing that's "down" with wimmin Parg, is their panties! :-)
>
> Not in your case, Dave; Deni Loubert walked out on you long ago, and no one else wants you either. I mean, most women would be totally unwilling to live with those stacks and stacks of unpurchased comic books.
> >> But having a stake in society, a role in children's lives, a position ->> at>> the head of it or otherwise - in the family?
>
> > Every human being has the right to procreate as he or she sees fit. > You don't have any right to determine the makeup of my family, nor> > I ...of yours. Oh...that's rights, Dave Sim dosn't have a family > since Deni Loubert left. Sorry.
>
> >> Forget about it.
Nah...it's too much fun.
> >> posted by Duncan Idaho @ 5:42 PM- Hide quoted text -
>
> -
>
> Last time I checked, 'Lesbians' were human beings, deserving of equal
> rights. I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
Well men are still treated by women as expendable second class
citizens. Just look at how men are treated as parents: throwaway
> You either ARE a parent or you're NOT. It's not a matter of whether
> you feel someone should be "needed".
Perhaps chimps can replace chaps?
> A good parent should always be
> welcomed in the life a of a child. A child will cherish a good
> parent, and have need of that person.
Single mooma's created the majority of crime here in the west hyerdahl
due to their inability to nurture positive male behaviour.
> The real issue seems to resolve
> around the notion that a lesbian should also be able to choose to be a
> parent. And they can and sometimes do.
The BEST place for a child to be reared is in a male headed hetro home
with mooma as nurturer, pappa as provider.
> Whine....whine....whine; I'm starting to think that these bitter
> twitters are babies themselves.
I can produce mothers milk so that makes me more female than you
hyerdahl.
> Poor dears don't seem to realize that
> today women are in every aspect of work from building construction, to
> architecture all the way to
> doctors ...lawyers....teachers....cops....You just can't seem to keep
> women down, Dave Sim cockpuppets.
Women are a tiny proportion risking their lives hyerdahl.
> Every human being has the right to procreate as he or she sees fit.
The BEST place for a child to be reared is in a male headed hetro home
with mooma as nurturer, pappa as provider.
> You don't have any right to determine the makeup of my family, nor
> I ...of yours. Oh...that's rights, Dave Sim dosn't have a family
> since Deni Loubert left. Sorry.
The BEST place for a child to be reared is in a male headed hetro home
with mooma as nurturer, pappa as provider.
In what manner? Women don't have NEEDS to replace men. When a man is
not in the picture, women simply move forward.
>> > A good parent should always be
> > welcomed in the life a of a child. A child will cherish a good
> > parent, and have need of that person.
>
> Single mooma's created the majority of crime here in the west hyerdahl
> due to their inability to nurture positive male behaviour.
It isn't the job of women to "nurture" men. Women save that for
children, con...and men also have an obligation to care for their
young, whether or not they meet the challenge.
> > The real issue seems to resolve
> > around the notion that a lesbian should also be able to choose to be a
> > parent. And they can and sometimes do.
>
> The BEST place for a child to be reared is in a male headed hetro home
> with mooma as nurturer, pappa as provider.
Not at all. There are good lesbian homes raising good kids.
>
> > Whine....whine....whine; I'm starting to think that these bitter
> > twitters are babies themselves.
>
> I can produce mothers milk so that makes me more female than you
> hyerdahl.
That's not "milk"; it's snake oil.
What makes a person male or female is not based on their ability to
either produce milk, or some hormone laced drug taking, con. Even
your mother (I'm supposing you had one) is still a woman regardless of
her milk producing qualities.
>
> > Poor dears don't seem to realize that
> > today women are in every aspect of work from building construction, to
> > architecture all the way to> > doctors ...lawyers....teachers....cops....You just can't seem to keep
> > women down, Dave Sim cockpuppets.
>
> Women are a tiny proportion risking their lives hyerdahl.
>
So you say, and yet a woman does risk her health and life every time
she gestates and delivers a child. Poor con...can't seem to top that.
> > Every human being has the right to procreate as he or she sees fit.
>
> The BEST place for a child to be reared is in a male headed hetro home
> with mooma as nurturer, pappa as provider.
Not at all. The best place for a child to be raised is in a loving
home with lots of love, guidance and edcuation.
>
> > You don't have any right to determine the makeup of my family, nor
> > I ...of yours. Oh...that's rights, Dave Sim dosn't have a family
> > since Deni Loubert left. Sorry.
>
> The BEST place for a child to be reared is in a male headed hetro home
> with mooma as nurturer, pappa as provider.
Not so, con. We all see your snake oil. :-)
On May 21, 3:57 am, Hyerdahl <Hyerda...@aol.com> wrote:
> Last time I checked, 'Lesbians' were human beings, deserving of equal
> rights. I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
That does NOT confer on them "being the same as" in other words no
matter how large the clitoris the lesbians will NEVER be "fathers" no matter
how much feminist literature (bullshit) tries to make the claim that they
are!
I'm always amazed that some people seem to need reminding that, if
lesbians can make a kid all on their own, well, have at it, lesbos !
Hint: Sperm isn't manufactured in any pussys....
> That does NOT confer on them "being the same as" in other words no
> matter how large the clitoris the lesbians will NEVER be "fathers" no matter
> how much feminist literature (bullshit) tries to make the claim that they
> are!
That too.
Andre
Indeed, there are no such thing as lesbian parents, it's physically
impossible. At best one lesbian can be the mother, but there must be
a third party, the father. Of course most women seem to think they
have a right to prevent fathers from parenting *their* children, but
they still demand that men pay them to raise the children. But Women
today don't even want to raise their children, they want enough CS so
that they can pay someone else to care for the children.
Now that we are seeing some sperm donors being assessed CS, I think
that the supply is going to dry up, if it has not already.
And I'm not clear that having a child is a "right" anyway, it's a
responsibility at best. And given that women place all the responsibility
on men, that leaves no responsible party in a lesbian relationship,
which cannot be in the best interest of the child.
Cheers,
Rich
To pick a small nit, you mean that two lesbian bio parents, also
meaning no other bio parents existing, is impossible; of course.
Now, as " parents " can mean " adoptive parents ", so two lesbian
" parents " is possible, just massively undesireable. For the kids'
sakes.
> At best one lesbian can be the mother, but there must be
> a third party, the father. Of course most women seem to think they
> have a right to prevent fathers from parenting *their* children, but
> they still demand that men pay them to raise the children. But Women
> today don't even want to raise their children, they want enough CS so
> that they can pay someone else to care for the children.
Indeed.
> Now that we are seeing some sperm donors being assessed CS, I think
> that the supply is going to dry up, if it has not already.
From what we read here, its pretty much dry in the UK now.
> And I'm not clear that having a child is a "right" anyway, it's a
> responsibility at best.
True. To expand the accuracy of the statement that you made, that
having a kid isn't a right, we tend, in the West, to say rights
when we mean " individual rights ". Thus, any act that *requires*
more than one person to accomplish it, cannot be a matter of rights.
Ergo, marriage is not a right, and thus parenting without one bio
parent is also not a right.
> And given that women place all the responsibility
> on men, that leaves no responsible party in a lesbian relationship,
> which cannot be in the best interest of the child.
Agreed.
You will NEVER convince the Femmi's like Hemingway she actually BELIEVE they
CAN do it!
Not according to Carol Ann and the other Feminazis. These delusional bimbos
actually BELIEVE they CAN!
The really cool thing about being a parent is that children don't
really care what's between your legs. They just want to love and be
loved, and guided, fed and clothed and educated.
Most of all, they just want good parents no matter what's between
their legs.
It's really a practical matter, fellas; if a woman wants a baby sperm
is either cheap or free, no matter who she has as a partner. :-)
>> > Last time I checked, 'Lesbians' were human beings, deserving of equal
>> > rights. I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
>> That does NOT confer on them "being the same as" in other words no
>> matter how large the clitoris the lesbians will NEVER be "fathers" no
>> matter how
>> much feminist literature (bullshit) tries to make the claim that they>
>> are!
> The really cool thing about being a parent is that children don't
> really care what's between your legs. They just want to love and be
> loved, and guided, fed and clothed and educated.
> Most of all, they just want good parents no matter what's between
> their legs.
However Carol Ann despite your shrill screeching - you GIRLS still
cannot gestate without men involved. No matter how much you delude
yourselves that you can.
>> >>>> Last time I checked, 'Lesbians' were human beings, deserving of
>> >>>> equal
>> >>>> rights. I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
>>
>> >> I'm always amazed that some people seem to need reminding that, if
>> >> lesbians can make a kid all on their own, well, have at it, lesbos !
>>
>> > Indeed, there are no such thing as lesbian parents, it's physically
>> > impossible.
>>
>> Not according to Carol Ann and the other Feminazis. These delusional
>> bimbos
>> actually BELIEVE they CAN!
> It's really a practical matter, fellas; if a woman wants a baby sperm
> is either cheap or free, no matter who she has as a partner. :-)
On command you come forward with your usual INSANE claims that lesbians
can (on their own) procreate! SORRY CAROL! That's bullshit and you girls who
believe it are mental cases. You know, without you people would say I
exaggerate when I say that you twits believe this shit.
Nonsense. Kids are very aware of male or female roles and are disturbed when
something doesn't conform to their idea of how it should be, much more so
than an adult would be.
>
>
>
>
>>> > Last time I checked, 'Lesbians' were human beings, deserving of equal
>>> > rights. I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
>>>
>>> That does NOT confer on them "being the same as" in other words no>
>>> matter how large the clitoris the lesbians will NEVER be "fathers" no
>>> matter> how much feminist literature (bullshit) tries to make the claim
>>> that they> are!
>>
>> The really cool thing about being a parent is that children don't
>> really care what's between your legs. They just want to love and be
>> loved, and guided, fed and clothed and educated.
>> Most of all, they just want good parents no matter what's between
>> their legs.
>
> Nonsense. Kids are very aware of male or female roles and are disturbed
> when something doesn't conform to their idea of how it should be, much
> more so than an adult would be.
Feminists are real head cases. They actually convince themselves that
babies actually LIKE having a steel spike rammed into the back of their
heads and have their brains sucked out. (PBA) Mz. Hemingway has the longest
laundry list of rationalizations and purely magical thinking we can ever
expect to see demonstrated as she flits from the flame of one hare-brained
idea to another to explain her alternate universe. I would flatly state that
with over a million and a half abortions a year that women do NOT occupy the
moral high ground when it comes to children, add to that the FACT that women
are the perps in almost 90% of the cases of infanticide in our society as
well. It is hard to allow ANY credence to somebody with the mindset that
their personal convenience TRUMPS the right of another person to live.
That's bad enough but to come back with the smugness of claiming that THEY
are THE moral standard for the human race does it in.
Last time I checked, 'Lesbians' were human beings, deserving of
equal> rights. I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of
that.
That does NOT confer on them "being the same as" in other words no
matter how large the clitoris the lesbians will NEVER be "fath matter
how much feminist literature (bullshit) tries to make the claim that
they> >> are! The really cool thing about being a parent is that
children don't
> > really care what's between your legs. They just want to love and be > lov, and guided, fed and clothed and educated.
> Most of all, they just want good parents no matter what's between >
their legs.
>
>However Carol Ann despite your shrill screeching
What "shrill screeching" Kenny; show us all where that is here?
- you GIRLS still cannot gestate without men involved. No matter how
much you delude
> yourselves that you can.
Ken, all women need to procreate is sperm and that is either free or
cheap. Your pronouncement is a bit like saying, without water you
can't make soup, and there is water everywhere.
>
> In what manner? Women don't have NEEDS to replace men. When a man is
> not in the picture, women simply move forward.
Move to where? Women aren't going anywhere without state nor penis
paychecks hyerdahl; looks as tho women cant do it on their own afters,
ah?
>
> It isn't the job of women to "nurture" men. Women save that for
> children, con...and men also have an obligation to care for their
> young, whether or not they meet the challenge.
Single mooma's fail to nurture boys to girls hence this huge crime
waves engulfing the west. Single Mooma's and the culture that created
such a monster should be STD'd (stoned to death). l;-)
>
> Not at all. There are good lesbian homes raising good kids.
No structure other than mom/dad can give the child the correct
upbringing. Kids need a mom PLUS a dad...
>
> That's not "milk"; it's snake oil.
>
Cow droppings! When my estrogen levels are high (due to excess
testosterone), my bitch tits itch and a milky white substance (I call
it dadda's milk) is excreted.
You really should study the human body a bit more hyerdahl; you might
understand a tad more about human nature.
>
> So you say, and yet a woman does risk her health and life every time
> she gestates and delivers a child. Poor con...can't seem to top that.
Men go to work everyday risking their lives hyerdahl; women don't do
likewise squirting out bubs on the way to work each day.
Yur just trying to trivilaise men's acheivements which are a beach of
sand compared to a few specks of female sand particles.
>
> Not at all. The best place for a child to be raised is in a loving
> home with lots of love, guidance and edcuation.
A male and female influence... a mom and dad trumps all others
hyerdahl, wake up and smell yur cofffffeees!
>
> Not so, con. We all see your snake oil. :-)
A male and female influence... a mom and dad trumps all others
hyerdahl, wake up and smell yur cofffffeees!
Does that mean we don't have to pay child support?
>
> Apart from, of course, working the dangerous jobs women don't want to do,
> being cannon-fodder in times of war, paying the bulk of taxes to fund
> single
> mothers and the taxpayer-funded IVF treatment for them, being extorted for
> Child Support, building the air-conditioned offices for women to sit
> around
> in filing their nails, policing the streets to keep women free from
> violent
> criminals...anything unpleasant basically.
So women don't need us huh?
The question is, what do we need them for, other than having our babies and
general looking nice?
>
> But having a stake in society, a role in children's lives, a position - at
> the head of it or otherwise - in the family?
>
> Forget about it.
Con, a woman who CHOOSES to provide for a family herself, clearly is
not relying on the father for support. Today, women who work have
other means, as do women born into wealth. These women might well
choose to go it alone, which is not quite the same thing as women who
simply get pregnant where she and the man have both risked.
>
>
> > It isn't the job of women to "nurture" men. Women save that for> > children, con...and men also have an obligation to care for their young, whether or not they meet the challenge.
>
> Single mooma's fail to nurture boys to girls hence this huge crime waves engulfing the west.
Parents are not responsible for the crimes of their adult progeny,
con. Didn't you know that?
And we don't blame single moms for the abandonment of fathers. That's
simply not the correct thing to do.
Single Mooma's and the culture that created
> such a monster should be STD'd (stoned to death). l;-)
Well, if you like the notion of stoning single mothers, you should
move to a country that does that....chicken con.
>
>
> > Not at all. There are good lesbian homes raising good kids.
>
> No structure other than mom/dad can give the child the correct> upbringing. Kids need a mom PLUS a dad...
>
You're not god, nor do you have a magic wand (in your pants). That
being the case, you don't get to DICtate the nature of the home for
others, nor what is 'best'.
> > > That's not "milk"; it's snake oil.
>
> Cow droppings! When my estrogen levels are high (due to excess testosterone), my bitch tits itch and a milky white substance (I call
> it dadda's milk) is excreted.
>
Snake oil, my friend. :-)
> You really should study the human body a bit more hyerdahl; you might> understand a tad more about human nature.
Here's what I DO know, con. No matter how much wand waving you do,
there is no power released from it. You simply have no hand, and your
third leg doesn't have any power either.
>
>
>
So are men.
>I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
I'm always amazed how often you feminists forget it too, not to mention the
true meaning of equality.
>
>> Well, it's official guys, we're now officially redundant. We're not
>> needed> now.
>>
> You either ARE a parent or you're NOT. It's not a matter of whether
> you feel someone should be "needed". A good parent should always be
> welcomed in the life a of a child. A child will cherish a good
> parent, and have need of that person. The real issue seems to resolve
> around the notion that a lesbian should also be able to choose to be a
> parent. And they can and sometimes do.
Often children cherish bad parents.
Gods know why.
>
>> Apart from, of course, working the dangerous jobs women don't want to
>> do,> being cannon-fodder in times of war, paying the bulk of taxes to
>> fund single mothers and the taxpayer-funded IVF treatment for them, being
>> extorted for
>> Child Support, building the air-conditioned offices for women to sit
>> around in filing their nails, policing the streets to keep women free
>> from violent criminals...anything unpleasant basically.
>
> Whine....whine....whine; I'm starting to think that these bitter
> twitters are babies themselves. Poor dears don't seem to realize that
> today women are in every aspect of work from building construction, to
> architecture all the way to
> doctors ...lawyers....teachers....cops....You just can't seem to keep
> women down, Dave Sim cockpuppets.
I see it's the feminists who try to keep the men down these days. They will
fail.
>>
>> But having a stake in society, a role in children's lives, a position -
>> at
>> the head of it or otherwise - in the family?
>>
> Every human being has the right to procreate as he or she sees fit.
> You don't have any right to determine the makeup of my family, nor
> I ...of yours. Oh...that's rights, Dave Sim dosn't have a family
> since Deni Loubert left. Sorry.
>
You guys seem to know too much about each other. That's scary
They move forward before the male leaves the picture. The men leave the
picture so they can move forward.
>
>
>>> > A good parent should always be
>> > welcomed in the life a of a child. A child will cherish a good
>> > parent, and have need of that person.
>>
>> Single mooma's created the majority of crime here in the west hyerdahl
>> due to their inability to nurture positive male behaviour.
>
> It isn't the job of women to "nurture" men. Women save that for
> children,
And it isn't the job of the men to keep women, hyperdahl. We need keep only
our children.
>con...and men also have an obligation to care for their
> young, whether or not they meet the challenge.
Women have the same obligation but I see enough of them abondoning it
>
>> > The real issue seems to resolve
>> > around the notion that a lesbian should also be able to choose to be a
>> > parent. And they can and sometimes do.
>>
>> The BEST place for a child to be reared is in a male headed hetro home
>> with mooma as nurturer, pappa as provider.
>
> Not at all. There are good lesbian homes raising good kids.
And gay male homes.
>
>>
>> > Whine....whine....whine; I'm starting to think that these bitter
>> > twitters are babies themselves.
>>
>> I can produce mothers milk so that makes me more female than you
>> hyerdahl.
>
I daren't ask
> That's not "milk"; it's snake oil.
> What makes a person male or female is not based on their ability to
> either produce milk, or some hormone laced drug taking, con. Even
> your mother (I'm supposing you had one) is still a woman regardless of
> her milk producing qualities.
>>
>> > Poor dears don't seem to realize that
>> > today women are in every aspect of work from building construction, to
>> > architecture all the way to> > doctors
>> > ...lawyers....teachers....cops....You just can't seem to keep
>> > women down, Dave Sim cockpuppets.
>>
>> Women are a tiny proportion risking their lives hyerdahl.
>>
> So you say, and yet a woman does risk her health and life every time
> she gestates and delivers a child. Poor con...can't seem to top that.
And men risk thier lives everytime they cross the road to go to work.
Typical feminist attitude you have thier, hyperdahl. Blame the men because
women are the one who get pregnant. If you women have an issue with that,
take it up with your creator.
>
>> > Every human being has the right to procreate as he or she sees fit.
>>
>> The BEST place for a child to be reared is in a male headed hetro home
>> with mooma as nurturer, pappa as provider.
>
> Not at all. The best place for a child to be raised is in a loving
> home with lots of love, guidance and edcuation.
That is becoming rarer these days. Some of us got by without it.
Really? Have you tasted it?
Indeed.
>
> >I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
>
> I'm always amazed how often you feminists forget it too, not to mention the
> true meaning of equality.
>
>
> >> Well, it's official guys, we're now officially redundant. We're not
> >> needed> now.
>
> > You either ARE a parent or you're NOT. It's not a matter of whether> > you feel someone should be "needed". A good parent should always be> welcomed in the life a of a child. A child will cherish a good parent, and have need of that person. The real issue seems to resolve
around the notion that a lesbian should also be able to choose to be
a> parent. And they can and sometimes do.
>
> Often children cherish bad parents.
I suppose that is true as well.
>
> Gods know why.
>
Indeed.
>
>
> >> Apart from, of course, working the dangerous jobs women don't want to do,> being cannon-fodder in times of war, paying the bulk of taxes to
> >> fund single mothers and the taxpayer-funded IVF treatment for them, being
> >> extorted for
> >> Child Support, building the air-conditioned offices for women to sit
> >> around in filing their nails, policing the streets to keep women free
> >> from violent criminals...anything unpleasant basically.
>
> > Whine....whine....whine; I'm starting to think that these bitter> twitters are babies themselves. Poor dears don't seem to realize that
> > today women are in every aspect of work from building construction, to
> > architecture all the way to
> > doctors ...lawyers....teachers....cops....You just can't seem to keep
> > women down, Dave Sim cockpuppets.
>
> I see it's the feminists who try to keep the men down these days. They will
> fail.
>
Feminists only seek equal rights, equal treatment and equal
opportunity; none of that is designed to "keep the men down".
>
> >> But having a stake in society, a role in children's lives, a position -> >> at
> >> the head of it or otherwise - in the family?
>
Men have the role of parent, just like women, when they are
parents...no more....no less.
> > Every human being has the right to procreate as he or she sees fit. You don't have any right to determine the makeup of my family, nor I ...of yours. Oh...that's rights, Dave Sim dosn't have a family since Deni Loubert left. Sorry.
>
> You guys seem to know too much about each other. That's scary
>
Well, Dave Sim let the cat out the bag a long time ago. He outed
himself when he tried to sell his toon rags on the net.
>
> >>
Like gestating kids into poverty as your arch nemisis MarkS states.
Nice work, hyerdahl! NOT.
> Today, women who work have
> other means, as do women born into wealth.
Like cheat men out of their children and their paychecks.
> These women might well
> choose to go it alone, which is not quite the same thing as women who
> simply get pregnant where she and the man have both risked.
Like gestating kids into poverty as your arch nemisis MarkS states.
Nice work, hyerdahl! NOT.
>
> Parents are not responsible for the crimes of their adult progeny,
> con. Didn't you know that?
Sure they are... hell there is even talk of making parents RESPONSIBLE
for their childrens outcomes rather than "the entire village".
> And we don't blame single moms for the abandonment of fathers. That's
> simply not the correct thing to do.
The biased to gals court system see's men on their way hyerdahl, I'd
hardly call men desperate to see their kids more than 4 days a month
"adandonment".
> Well, if you like the notion of stoning single mothers, you should
> move to a country that does that....chicken con.
Single mooma's are a feminist initiate hyerdahl... you should be
stoned to death.
> You're not god, nor do you have a magic wand (in your pants). That
> being the case, you don't get to DICtate the nature of the home for
> others, nor what is 'best'.
Again, a mum and dad is the best start a kid can have. Hell, just look
at what happened to me hyerdahl.... a survived abortion, a teen
distortion.
>
> Snake oil, my friend. :-)
>
Nah, I even have STRETCH MARKS to prove my gestating efforts in the
gym hyerdahl. Do you? ;-)
> Here's what I DO know, con. No matter how much wand waving you do,
> there is no power released from it. You simply have no hand, and your
> third leg doesn't have any power either.
The phallic ultimately decides if you live or die hyerdahl, so be
careful what you demand, cause the next generation might get it and
"it" wont be pretty.
So for the time being, control you're misandric tendencies before men
say "enough".
Like gestating kids into poverty as your arch nemisis MarkS states.
Nice work, hyerdahl! NOT.
> Today, women who work have
> other means, as do women born into wealth.
Like cheat men out of their children and their paychecks.
> These women might well
> choose to go it alone, which is not quite the same thing as women who
> simply get pregnant where she and the man have both risked.
Like gestating kids into poverty as your arch nemisis MarkS states.
Nice work, hyerdahl! NOT.
>
> Parents are not responsible for the crimes of their adult progeny,
> con. Didn't you know that?
Sure they are... hell there is even talk of making parents RESPONSIBLE
for their childrens outcomes rather than "the entire village".
> And we don't blame single moms for the abandonment of fathers. That's
> simply not the correct thing to do.
The biased to gals court system see's men on their way hyerdahl, I'd
hardly call men desperate to see their kids more than 4 days a month
"adandonment".
> Well, if you like the notion of stoning single mothers, you should
> move to a country that does that....chicken con.
Single mooma's are a feminist initiate hyerdahl... you should be
stoned to death.
> You're not god, nor do you have a magic wand (in your pants). That
> being the case, you don't get to DICtate the nature of the home for
> others, nor what is 'best'.
Again, a mum and dad is the best start a kid can have. Hell, just look
at what happened to me hyerdahl.... a survived abortion, a teen
distortion.
>
> Snake oil, my friend. :-)
>
Nah, I even have STRETCH MARKS to prove my gestating efforts in the
gym hyerdahl. Do you? ;-)
> Here's what I DO know, con. No matter how much wand waving you do,
> there is no power released from it. You simply have no hand, and your
> third leg doesn't have any power either.
Here's what I DO know, "hustler hyerdahl". Women are moving beyond the
feminist victim mentality and that is a good thing. So take note,. you
too might one day suceed without barking victim!
Indeed.
>
> >I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
>
> I'm always amazed how often you feminists forget it too, not to mention the
> true meaning of equality.
>
>
> >> Well, it's official guys, we're now officially redundant. We're not
> >> needed> now.
>
> > You either ARE a parent or you're NOT. It's not a matter of whether> > you feel someone should be "needed". A good parent should always be> welcomed in the life a of a child. A child will cherish a good parent, and have need of that person. The real issue seems to resolve
around the notion that a lesbian should also be able to choose to be
a> parent. And they can and sometimes do.
>
> Often children cherish bad parents.
I suppose that is true as well.
>
> Gods know why.
>
Indeed.
>
>
> >> Apart from, of course, working the dangerous jobs women don't want to do,> being cannon-fodder in times of war, paying the bulk of taxes to
> >> fund single mothers and the taxpayer-funded IVF treatment for them, being
> >> extorted for
> >> Child Support, building the air-conditioned offices for women to sit
> >> around in filing their nails, policing the streets to keep women free
> >> from violent criminals...anything unpleasant basically.
>
> > Whine....whine....whine; I'm starting to think that these bitter> twitters are babies themselves. Poor dears don't seem to realize that
> > today women are in every aspect of work from building construction, to
> > architecture all the way to
> > doctors ...lawyers....teachers....cops....You just can't seem to keep
> > women down, Dave Sim cockpuppets.
>
> I see it's the feminists who try to keep the men down these days. They will
> fail.
>
Feminists only seek equal rights, equal treatment and equal
opportunity; none of that is designed to "keep the men down".
>
> >> But having a stake in society, a role in children's lives, a position -> >> at
> >> the head of it or otherwise - in the family?
>
Men have the role of parent, just like women, when they are
parents...no more....no less.
> > Every human being has the right to procreate as he or she sees fit. You don't have any right to determine the makeup of my family, nor I ...of yours. Oh...that's rights, Dave Sim dosn't have a family since Deni Loubert left. Sorry.
>
> You guys seem to know too much about each other. That's scary
>
Indeed.
>
> >I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
>
> I'm always amazed how often you feminists forget it too, not to mention the
> true meaning of equality.
>
>
> >> Well, it's official guys, we're now officially redundant. We're not
> >> needed> now.
>
> > You either ARE a parent or you're NOT. It's not a matter of whether> > you feel someone should be "needed". A good parent should always be> welcomed in the life a of a child. A child will cherish a good parent, and have need of that person. The real issue seems to resolve
around the notion that a lesbian should also be able to choose to be
a> parent. And they can and sometimes do.
>
> Often children cherish bad parents.
I suppose that is true as well.
>
> Gods know why.
>
Indeed.
>
>
> >> Apart from, of course, working the dangerous jobs women don't want to do,> being cannon-fodder in times of war, paying the bulk of taxes to
> >> fund single mothers and the taxpayer-funded IVF treatment for them, being
> >> extorted for
> >> Child Support, building the air-conditioned offices for women to sit
> >> around in filing their nails, policing the streets to keep women free
> >> from violent criminals...anything unpleasant basically.
>
> > Whine....whine....whine; I'm starting to think that these bitter> twitters are babies themselves. Poor dears don't seem to realize that
> > today women are in every aspect of work from building construction, to
> > architecture all the way to
> > doctors ...lawyers....teachers....cops....You just can't seem to keep
> > women down, Dave Sim cockpuppets.
>
> I see it's the feminists who try to keep the men down these days. They will
> fail.
>
Feminists only seek equal rights, equal treatment and equal
opportunity; none of that is designed to "keep the men down".
>
> >> But having a stake in society, a role in children's lives, a position -> >> at
> >> the head of it or otherwise - in the family?
>
Men have the role of parent, just like women, when they are
parents...no more....no less.
> > Every human being has the right to procreate as he or she sees fit. You don't have any right to determine the makeup of my family, nor I ...of yours. Oh...that's rights, Dave Sim dosn't have a family since Deni Loubert left. Sorry.
>
> You guys seem to know too much about each other. That's scary
>
Indeed.
>
> >I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
>
> I'm always amazed how often you feminists forget it too, not to mention the
> true meaning of equality.
>
>
> >> Well, it's official guys, we're now officially redundant. We're not
> >> needed> now.
>
> > You either ARE a parent or you're NOT. It's not a matter of whether> > you feel someone should be "needed". A good parent should always be> welcomed in the life a of a child. A child will cherish a good parent, and have need of that person. The real issue seems to resolve
around the notion that a lesbian should also be able to choose to be
a> parent. And they can and sometimes do.
>
> Often children cherish bad parents.
I suppose that is true as well.
>
> Gods know why.
>
Indeed.
>
>
> >> Apart from, of course, working the dangerous jobs women don't want to do,> being cannon-fodder in times of war, paying the bulk of taxes to
> >> fund single mothers and the taxpayer-funded IVF treatment for them, being
> >> extorted for
> >> Child Support, building the air-conditioned offices for women to sit
> >> around in filing their nails, policing the streets to keep women free
> >> from violent criminals...anything unpleasant basically.
>
> > Whine....whine....whine; I'm starting to think that these bitter> twitters are babies themselves. Poor dears don't seem to realize that
> > today women are in every aspect of work from building construction, to
> > architecture all the way to
> > doctors ...lawyers....teachers....cops....You just can't seem to keep
> > women down, Dave Sim cockpuppets.
>
> I see it's the feminists who try to keep the men down these days. They will
> fail.
>
Feminists only seek equal rights, equal treatment and equal
opportunity; none of that is designed to "keep the men down".
>
> >> But having a stake in society, a role in children's lives, a position -> >> at
> >> the head of it or otherwise - in the family?
>
Men have the role of parent, just like women, when they are
parents...no more....no less.
> > Every human being has the right to procreate as he or she sees fit. You don't have any right to determine the makeup of my family, nor I ...of yours. Oh...that's rights, Dave Sim dosn't have a family since Deni Loubert left. Sorry.
>
> You guys seem to know too much about each other. That's scary
>
Some comedian once answered the question as to why men die so much earlier
than women, with the answer that having to live with women, it's because WE
WANT TO!
I think his point was that we just want to get away from them.
>>>> Last time I checked, 'Lesbians' were human beings, deserving of equal
>>>> rights. I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
>>
>> I'm always amazed that some people seem to need reminding that, if
>> lesbians can make a kid all on their own, well, have at it, lesbos !
> They can be parents without a male and they are doing so. Hate to burst
> your narrow world bubble.
Oh really Marg? Get your clit as hard as you can and rub it on Carol Ann
and see IF you can knock her up!!!! Meanwhile the rest of us will laugh our
asses off at the secret video of you TRYING IN VAIN.
HA HA from the woman who just a couple posts before claimed that women CAN
indeed impregnate each other and that men and sperm are NOT required.....
HA HA HA HA HA HA.
They're fine in small doses, even uplifting. but to live with one? Not for
me.
>
>
A grassland, where else?
If civilization had been left in female hands
we would still be living in grass huts.
Camille Paglia (1947- ), _Sex, Art, and American Culture_;
Introduction (1992).
East Africa is full of fly infested, disease ridden villages
of grass huts with women and their sprogs where "a man
is not in the picture".
Sewage breeds disease, contaminating the water supply
and threatening public health in expanding societies.
This squalid, putrid, intractable problem has been solved
outside the Third World by the miracle of modern plumbing,
the gift of Western capitalism and the industrial revolution,
at which our pampered, armchair leftists like to sneer.
A sign should be posted over every campus toilet: "This flush
comes to you by courtesy of capitalism."
Camille Paglia
"A bland antidote for Bill 'n' Al fatigue: George W."
http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/01/17/pre_inaug/print.html
(I suspect the good doctor's reference to "plumbing" is
an _homage_ to Ayn Rand's novel _Atlas Shrugged_.)
> Women aren't going anywhere without state nor penis paychecks
> hyerdahl; looks as tho' women can't do it on their own afters, ah?
Yeah, even Dr. Paglia systematically overestimates the talent of women.
[I]n philosophy, mathematics, and poetry,
the only materials are pen and paper.
Male conspiracy cannot explain all female failures.
I am convinced that, even without restrictions,
there still would have been no female Pascal,
Milton, or Kant. Genius is not checked by social
obstacles: it will overcome.
Camille Paglia, _Sexual Personae_ page 653.
We're still waiting for the female counterpart of
the much lesser Wallis, Joyce, and Hegel even in this
age of abundant pen, paper and the ease with which
a woman can get a State stipend (paid for by taxes
on men, of course) to finance a room of her own.
--
Yes, there's a scattering of substantive work in that
area [Women's Studies], but as I said at San Francisco's
Herbst Theater in 1992, why dig through a mountain of manure
just to find a few nickels?
Camille Paglia
The nanny murder, "Boogie Nights" and feminist writing about men
http://www.salonmagazine.com/col/pagl/1997/11/11pagl.html
>>>>>>> > Last time I checked, 'Lesbians' were human beings, deserving of
>>>>>>> > equal
>>>>>>> > rights. I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well men are still treated by women as expendable second class
>>>>>>> citizens. Just look at how men are treated as parents: throwaway
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > You either ARE a parent or you're NOT. It's not a matter of
>>>>>>> > whether
>>>>>>> > you feel someone should be "needed".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps chimps can replace chaps?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In what manner? Women don't have NEEDS to replace men. When a man
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> not in the picture, women simply move forward.
>>>>>
>>>>> They move forward before the male leaves the picture. The men leave
>>>>> the picture so they can move forward.
>>>>
>>>> Some comedian once answered the question as to why men die so much
>>>> earlier than women, with the answer that having to live with women,
>>>> it's because WE WANT TO!
>>>>
>>> I think there's truth to his humour. Marriage chokes men and doesn't do
>>> that much for women.
>>
>>
>> I think his point was that we just want to get away from them.
> They're fine in small doses, even uplifting. but to live with one? Not for
> me.
It is to be noted that the joke comes from an American man. I went
another way and married a LATINA so I don't have the problem. She's nothing
like the mentally Ill American women. She has a mind of her own but she
doesn't torture men.
>
Yes, American women are of the European blood lines (at least the white
girls). It depends on the Latina and the Asian woman. Some are good, some
are as screwed up as American and British women. But for the most part Latin
women are a breath of fresh air. They are truly strong women, not
subservient, but very dedicated to their men IF the men are good to them.
This is also true of most Asian women. But you want to avoid the subservient
kind, Viet Namese, Filipinas, and some others. A strong Japanese or Chinese
woman can be heaven as well. Koreans??????? Some good and very bad. Women
from the old Soviet Union Republics should be avoided. They are worse than
American women.
This is all I ever asked of a woman but that's too much for British women.
They want it all on a plate and to treat us like dirt for our troubles.
> This is also true of most Asian women. But you want to avoid the
> subservient kind, Viet Namese, Filipinas, and some others. A strong
> Japanese or Chinese woman can be heaven as well. Koreans???????
I was thinking of thai women but chinese and japanese? Hubba hubba. :)
> Some good and very bad. Women from the old Soviet Union Republics should
> be avoided. They are worse than American women.
>
What about Polish, Czech or the Dutch?
>
>
Tell you what, it is simple things that mean a lot. Like having your
woman sitting next to you, holding your arm with both her hands and laying
her head on your shoulder and looking into your eyes with love and a smile.
It is also knowing that they are independent and there because they love
you. It is nice not having a woman who is a "dependant" looking to you to be
their entertainment director etc. Not blaming you for everything that goes
wrong in their lives.
>> This is also true of most Asian women. But you want to avoid the
>> subservient kind, Viet Namese, Filipinas, and some others. A strong
>> Japanese or Chinese woman can be heaven as well. Koreans???????
> I was thinking of thai women but chinese and japanese? Hubba hubba. :)
They look great till they hit their late 40's. Then aliens sneak in a
little short fat old woman on you in the middle of the night. You got to
sleep with this really HOT babe, and wake up with an old woman about 5
inches shorter and 50 pounds heavier. Latinas look good into their 70's.
>> Some good and very bad. Women from the old Soviet Union Republics
>> should be avoided. They are worse than American women.
> What about Polish, Czech or the Dutch?
Polish seem to be okay, Czechs? Not sure. Young Dutch gals (like
Germans) are hot.
That sounds like the honeymoon period. :)
>
>>> This is also true of most Asian women. But you want to avoid the
>>> subservient kind, Viet Namese, Filipinas, and some others. A strong
>>> Japanese or Chinese woman can be heaven as well. Koreans???????
>
>> I was thinking of thai women but chinese and japanese? Hubba hubba. :)
>
> They look great till they hit their late 40's. Then aliens sneak in a
> little short fat old woman on you in the middle of the night. You got to
> sleep with this really HOT babe, and wake up with an old woman about 5
> inches shorter and 50 pounds heavier. Latinas look good into their 70's.
Latinas look agood always :)
>
>>> Some good and very bad. Women from the old Soviet Union Republics
>>> should be avoided. They are worse than American women.
>
>> What about Polish, Czech or the Dutch?
>
> Polish seem to be okay, Czechs? Not sure. Young Dutch gals (like
> Germans) are hot.
I once worked in a bingo club. There was a hot dutch girl there and I had
one hell of a crush on her. I figured a beautiful girl like her wouldn't
look at me twice. snyway after I left for new pastured I found that the
dutch girl fancied me and was hoping i'd ask her out. Shy heart never won
fair lady as they say. She had really fair skin, mousy brown hair and a
smile that could steal your soul.
>
>
>
>
>
>
Yeah but it has lasted almost 5 years now. And has become MORE intense
over time.
>>>> This is also true of most Asian women. But you want to avoid the
>>>> subservient kind, Viet Namese, Filipinas, and some others. A strong
>>>> Japanese or Chinese woman can be heaven as well. Koreans???????
>>
>>> I was thinking of thai women but chinese and japanese? Hubba hubba. :)
>>
>> They look great till they hit their late 40's. Then aliens sneak in a
>> little short fat old woman on you in the middle of the night. You got to
>> sleep with this really HOT babe, and wake up with an old woman about 5
>> inches shorter and 50 pounds heavier. Latinas look good into their 70's.
> Latinas look agood always :)
Great bodies. Fantastick legs. Nice butts. But it is that face that does
me in. The dimples, and the smiles.. The smiles are worth a million bucks.
>>>> Some good and very bad. Women from the old Soviet Union Republics
>>>> should be avoided. They are worse than American women.
>>> What about Polish, Czech or the Dutch?
>> Polish seem to be okay, Czechs? Not sure. Young Dutch gals (like
>> Germans) are hot.
> I once worked in a bingo club. There was a hot dutch girl there and I had
> one hell of a crush on her. I figured a beautiful girl like her wouldn't
> look at me twice. snyway after I left for new pastured I found that the
> dutch girl fancied me and was hoping i'd ask her out. Shy heart never won
> fair lady as they say. She had really fair skin, mousy brown hair and a
> smile that could steal your soul.
I grew up in Wisconsin, I had a girlfriend from a town just north of
Milwaukee for a time who was as Dutch as you can get. Great looking girl,
and very sweet and passionate. Farm girl. We had nothing really in common.
Uh, besides sex that is. But I was then an over-hormoned high school kid.
She was a blonde. But I knew lots of German girls. Being part German myself
helped there.
But with all the woman I have known the little woman from Cuba I married
is really amazing. Smart as hell, competent at anything she tries, and she's
adapted well to the U.S. Her English is very good. She learned to dive a car
and she is an excellent driver. She is Miss technology. Computers, iPod,
Blackberry etc.
And she has a mind of her own. She can be all of those things and really
LOVE a man. And love with Latin passion. As she says "Para Siempre."
> Who is that? I don't know anyone by that name.
What's the matter Marg did I spell it wrong again? Everyone knows who
you are. How's the cauldron?
> You are an unmitigated asshole, ya know? I'm sure that you do.
Heh heh heh, yes Marg, I am president of the assholes' club. But I don't
hate women as you and Carol and your fellow Fembot travelers hate men. I am
fortunate enough to now be married to a REAL WOMAN. A REAL WOMAN can LOVE,
pity for you and your ilk!
>>>>>>>> Last time I checked, 'Lesbians' were human beings, deserving of
>>>>>>>> equal rights. I'm always amazed when folks need to be reminded of
>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm always amazed that some people seem to need reminding that, if
>>>>>> lesbians can make a kid all on their own, well, have at it, lesbos !
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, there are no such thing as lesbian parents, it's physically
>>>>> impossible.
>>>>
>>>> Not according to Carol Ann and the other Feminazis. These delusional
>>>> bimbos actually BELIEVE they CAN!
>>>
>>> No proof offered. Claim fails. Again.
>>
>>
>> HA HA from the woman who just a couple posts before claimed that women
>> CAN
>> indeed impregnate each other and that men and sperm are NOT required.....
>> HA HA HA HA HA HA.
> Laugh all you like but there are women having babies without men
> everywhere.
NO Marg they are NOT! Your dreams are bullshit.
It sounds like you are one of the lucky ones. I hope it lasts.
>
>>>>> This is also true of most Asian women. But you want to avoid the
>>>>> subservient kind, Viet Namese, Filipinas, and some others. A strong
>>>>> Japanese or Chinese woman can be heaven as well. Koreans???????
>>>
>>>> I was thinking of thai women but chinese and japanese? Hubba hubba. :)
>>>
>>> They look great till they hit their late 40's. Then aliens sneak in a
>>> little short fat old woman on you in the middle of the night. You got to
>>> sleep with this really HOT babe, and wake up with an old woman about 5
>>> inches shorter and 50 pounds heavier. Latinas look good into their 70's.
>
>> Latinas look agood always :)
>
> Great bodies. Fantastick legs. Nice butts. But it is that face that
> does me in. The dimples, and the smiles.. The smiles are worth a million
> bucks.
The dark hair, the dark eyes, the creamy skin... *dribble*
>
>>>>> Some good and very bad. Women from the old Soviet Union Republics
>>>>> should be avoided. They are worse than American women.
>
>>>> What about Polish, Czech or the Dutch?
>
>>> Polish seem to be okay, Czechs? Not sure. Young Dutch gals (like
>>> Germans) are hot.
>
>> I once worked in a bingo club. There was a hot dutch girl there and I had
>> one hell of a crush on her. I figured a beautiful girl like her wouldn't
>> look at me twice. snyway after I left for new pastured I found that the
>> dutch girl fancied me and was hoping i'd ask her out. Shy heart never won
>> fair lady as they say. She had really fair skin, mousy brown hair and a
>> smile that could steal your soul.
>
> I grew up in Wisconsin, I had a girlfriend from a town just north of
> Milwaukee for a time who was as Dutch as you can get. Great looking girl,
> and very sweet and passionate. Farm girl. We had nothing really in common.
> Uh, besides sex that is. But I was then an over-hormoned high school kid.
> She was a blonde. But I knew lots of German girls. Being part German
> myself helped there.
Myself I am half Irish, Half welsh which means I'm ugly as sin but I nearly
got off with a German barmaid once. I don't think she was pure German as she
had dark brown hair but she spoke really good english with a soft German
accent.. *Growl*
>
> But with all the woman I have known the little woman from Cuba I
> married is really amazing. Smart as hell, competent at anything she tries,
> and she's adapted well to the U.S. Her English is very good. She learned
> to dive a car and she is an excellent driver. She is Miss technology.
> Computers, iPod, Blackberry etc.
> And she has a mind of her own. She can be all of those things and really
> LOVE a man. And love with Latin passion. As she says "Para Siempre."
>
I bet she's a real beauty. I'm happy for you. Sadly not all of us are so
lucky.
With me it's a case of the ones most suitable for me are already spoken for,
don't fancy me or live in another country. I really should travel more.
>
>
>
>
Some German girls are cute. Some - -- like some Irish girls are really
ugly. My ex wife was Irish.
>> But with all the woman I have known the little woman from Cuba I
>> married is really amazing. Smart as hell, competent at anything she
>> tries, and she's adapted well to the U.S. Her English is very good. She
>> learned to dive a car and she is an excellent driver. She is Miss
>> technology. Computers, iPod, Blackberry etc.
>> And she has a mind of her own. She can be all of those things and really
>> LOVE a man. And love with Latin passion. As she says "Para Siempre."
> I bet she's a real beauty. I'm happy for you. Sadly not all of us are so
> lucky.
She's drop dead gorgeous. She's physically beutiful and has a pretty
soul as well. She shure can love.
> With me it's a case of the ones most suitable for me are already spoken
> for, don't fancy me or live in another country. I really should travel
> more.
Oh I could fix you up with lots of GOOD women. I know several that are
available. I love to see others as happy as I am.
I'm Irish and I'm as ugly as sin but I'm a bloke.
>
>>> But with all the woman I have known the little woman from Cuba I
>>> married is really amazing. Smart as hell, competent at anything she
>>> tries, and she's adapted well to the U.S. Her English is very good. She
>>> learned to dive a car and she is an excellent driver. She is Miss
>>> technology. Computers, iPod, Blackberry etc.
>>> And she has a mind of her own. She can be all of those things and really
>>> LOVE a man. And love with Latin passion. As she says "Para Siempre."
>
>> I bet she's a real beauty. I'm happy for you. Sadly not all of us are so
>> lucky.
>
> She's drop dead gorgeous. She's physically beutiful and has a pretty
> soul as well. She shure can love.
>
>> With me it's a case of the ones most suitable for me are already spoken
>> for, don't fancy me or live in another country. I really should travel
>> more.
>
> Oh I could fix you up with lots of GOOD women. I know several that are
> available. I love to see others as happy as I am.
There's a fair distance between you and me. Do you know any that are coming
to Britain? I wouldn't want to disapoint them mind, I'm not very pretty.
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But women are contributing and they are not allowing men to define the
value of that contribution. So, what you see as digging thru a
mountain for "a few nickels" has no effect either on women's freedoms
or opportunities. Thus...what you offer here is worth nothing at all.
Nope - but I suggest you try a visit to Cuba. There are regular flights
to Cuba from the UK and it is cheap. I suggest you go to the eastern part of
the island, Santiago, or Holguin. Guardalavaca is beautiful and the women
are breathtaking. Cuban women are not shallow like American and Brit woman.
Oh you'll find them amazing. Clean..... smart, Loving, and beautiful.
What's the chances of emigrating there? :) They're not in the middle of any
wars or anything dangerous like that are they?
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>
>
Well if you get married there to a Cuban woman you can apply for
permanent residence fairly easily. No wars. Not much freedom though.
Beautiful women and an economy in the toilet.
If you read between the lines, women are more accomodating when they
haven't much to eat. That seems to be how bitter boys like their
women....starving to death. :-)
Sounds like Britain but with more accomodating women. :)
>
>
Yeah Carol Ann YOU would read between the lines and yank THAT out. Small
FACT problem for you BIMBO - my wife was a Magistrate in Cuba, (Judge) and
made more than the average Cuban. So unlike your little DEMENTED theory -
(desperate rationalization) she wasn't starving and hungry and in desperate
need of an American to SAVE her. Your ignorance at times Carol - when it is
confronted by your stupid arrogance where you THINK you know everything,
law, history you name it, is am amusing thing to behold. You know NOTHING
about my wife but PRETEND you do! The thing is Carol, what SHE is *really* a
strong woman. She knows her own mind. She's competent and has NO need, NONE
WHATSOEVER to sit around feeling sorry for herself blaming her unhappiness
on men, BECAUSE............... She isn't unhappy! You lack the ability to
ever comprehend WHY a man would find a woman like my wife VASTLY preferable
to a worn out old bitching HAG like you.
Maybe Carol Ann it is because my wife isn't given to constantly toss
fits of shrill bitching, she's funny, and smiles and laughs at my stupid
jokes, and has a good time. She's not a housefrau and has her own career. My
bet is that it won't be far off she'll have an American law degree too.
Carol do you stay up nights planning to say the STUPID things you do or is
it genetic? Thank God I am married to the woman I am.
>>>> Nope - but I suggest you try a visit to Cuba. There are regular
>>>> flights to Cuba from the UK and it is cheap. I suggest you go to the
>>>> eastern part of the island, Santiago, or Holguin. Guardalavaca is
>>>> beautiful and the women are breathtaking. Cuban women are not shallow
>>>> like American and Brit woman. Oh you'll find them amazing. Clean.....
>>>> smart, Loving, and beautiful.
>>> What's the chances of emigrating there? :) They're not in the middle of
>>> any wars or anything dangerous like that are they?
>> Well if you get married there to a Cuban woman you can apply for
>> permanent residence fairly easily. No wars. Not much freedom though.
>> Beautiful women and an economy in the toilet.
> Sounds like Britain but with more accomodating women. :)
The economy is worse. The average worker earns only $6.50 a month.
That's not even 1 pound sterling. But I agree the women are nicer. They are
neutrals in the war between the sexes that Brit and American women are
fighting. They are women who actually LIKE being women. I'd warn that they
aren't to be mistreated. Ever hear of Lorena Bobbitt? While not Cuban, she
was a Latina. They don't suffer abuse well at all. If you love the Latina
you get it back double. If you mistreat a Latina you will come to wish you
hadn't. If you have the love of a Latin woman you will be as close to
paradise as any mortal man can. They are a delight to all the senses.
>> MARG PETERSEN
>> "pandora" <pan...@peak.org> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2007.05.25....@peak.org...
>
> Ah, there are signs of intelligence somewhere midst all the chaff.
> Good job kenny.
Huh?
But I bet the cost of living is a lot lower.
> That's not even 1 pound sterling. But I agree the women are nicer. They
> are neutrals in the war between the sexes that Brit and American women are
> fighting. They are women who actually LIKE being women. I'd warn that they
> aren't to be mistreated. Ever hear of Lorena Bobbitt? While not Cuban,
> she was a Latina. They don't suffer abuse well at all. If you love the
> Latina you get it back double. If you mistreat a Latina you will come to
> wish you hadn't. If you have the love of a Latin woman you will be as
> close to paradise as any mortal man can. They are a delight to all the
> senses.
I doubt I would have any problems then. I certainly wouldn't abuse them.
What gets me about British women is that they seem to think that men owe
them a good time and a living because of venturies of oppression. Well my
stance on that is I'm not responsible for the crimes of my forefathers. A
latin or oriental women who isn't on a quest to destroy the male population
will get no problem from me By nature I'm a romantic. :)
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Love your snipping Marg. SO clear
> > If you read between the lines, women are more accomodating when they
> > haven't much to eat. That seems to be how bitter boys like their
> > women....starving to death. :-)
>
> Yeah Carol Ann YOU would read between the lines and yank THAT out. Small> FACT problem for you BIMBO - my wife was a Magistrate in Cuba, (Judge) and made more than the average Cuban. So unlike your little DEMENTED theory - (desperate rationalization) she wasn't starving and hungry and in desperate need of an American to SAVE her.
Kenny, I don't, for a moment, believe your wife was a judge of any
sort in Cuba, but even if that were so, she would make less money than
someone who works at McDonald's here. :-) In that regard, Hungry
women marry men with food.
> (edit out relavent information)
>> > Well if you get married there to a Cuban woman you can apply for
>> >> permanent residence fairly easily. No wars. Not much freedom though.
>> >> Beautiful women and an economy in the toilet.-
>> > If you read between the lines, women are more accomodating when they
>> > haven't much to eat. That seems to be how bitter boys like their
>> > women....starving to death. :-)
>> Yeah Carol Ann YOU would read between the lines and yank THAT out.
>> Small> FACT problem for you BIMBO - my wife was a Magistrate in Cuba,
>> (Judge) and made more than the average Cuban. So unlike your little
>> DEMENTED theory - (desperate rationalization) she wasn't starving and
>> hungry and in >> desperate need of an American to SAVE her.
> Kenny, I don't, for a moment, believe your wife was a judge of any
> sort in Cuba, but even if that were so, she would make less money than
> someone who works at McDonald's here. :-) In that regard, Hungry
> women marry men with food.
Carol Ann you are in NO position to know what she did or didn't earn.
However she was FAR from being "HUNGRY." Yes, she did make less than
somebody working at McDonald's. BUT Cuba is a vastly different system with
vastly different food costs. For example a pound of pork generally cost her
the equivalent of 3 cents U.S.... You make smart assed comments about Cuba
based on your ZERO knowledge. She indeed functioned as a magistrate in the
tax court, referred to in Cuba as ONAT. (Oficina Nacional de Administración
Tributaria,)
http://www.ciat.org/es/public/docu/sem/ii_encuentro_directivos/ii_encuentro_control_interno_cuba.pdf
Carol you are such a clown..
Clear as is possible for YOU.
> >> > Well if you get married there to a Cuban woman you can apply for
> >> >> permanent residence fairly easily. No wars. Not much freedom though. >> Beautiful women and an economy in the toilet.->
If you read between the lines, women are more accomodating when they
> >> > haven't much to eat. That seems to be how bitter boys like their
> >> > women....starving to death. :-)
> >>
Yeah Carol Ann YOU would read between the lines and yank THAT out.
> >> Small> FACT problem for you BIMBO - my wife was a Magistrate in Cuba, >> (Judge) and made more than the average Cuban. So unlike your little>> DEMENTED theory - (desperate rationalization) she wasn't starving and hungry and in >> desperate need of an American to SAVE her.
>
> Kenny, I don't, for a moment, believe your wife was a judge of any
> sort in Cuba, but even if that were so, she would make less money than
> > someone who works at McDonald's here. :-) In that regard, Hungry
> > women marry men with food.
>
> Carol Ann you are in NO position to know what she did or didn't earn.
You, yourself have admitted the Cuban economy is poor; a judge there
would likely make as much as a McDonald's employee here. And that's
if there is such a woman. :-)
> However she was FAR from being "HUNGRY." Yes, she did make less than
> somebody working at McDonald's.
Hehehehehehe. You see. I figured right.
BUT Cuba is a vastly different system with> vastly different food
costs.
Food is not the only satisfaction for hunger if your hunger stems from
wanting a house, and appliances and making a life for oneself. Hungry
people try to marry up, Ken. That's what they do. The more money a
woman makes for herself, the less likely her need to marry money.
And, in your case, you're so old and fat, perhaps she's playing the
merry widow card....that's if she's still with you at all.
For example a pound of pork generally cost her
> the equivalent of 3 cents U.S.... You make smart assed comments about Cuba> based on your ZERO knowledge. She indeed functioned as a magistrate in the tax court, referred to in Cuba as ONAT. (Oficina Nacional de Administración> Tributaria,)
So you bray, Kenny. It would seem you have an axe to grind. Aren't
you already a two-time loser?
> > (edit out relavent information)
> >> > Well if you get married there to a Cuban woman you can apply for
> >> >> permanent residence fairly easily. No wars. Not much freedom though.
> >> >> >> Beautiful women and an economy in the toilet.->
>>>> If you read between the lines, women are more accomodating when they
> >> > haven't much to eat. That seems to be how bitter boys like their
> >> > women....starving to death. :-)
>>> Yeah Carol Ann YOU would read between the lines and yank THAT out.
>>> Small FACT problem for you BIMBO - my wife was a Magistrate in Cuba,
>> (Judge) and made more than the average Cuban. So unlike your little>>
>> DEMENTED theory - (desperate rationalization) she wasn't starving and
>> hungry and in >> desperate need of an American to SAVE her.
> Kenny, I don't, for a moment, believe your wife was a judge of any
> sort in Cuba, but even if that were so, she would make less money than
> > someone who works at McDonald's here. :-) In that regard, Hungry
> > women marry men with food.
>> Carol Ann you are in NO position to know what she did or didn't earn.
>You, yourself have admitted the Cuban economy is poor; a judge there
> would likely make as much as a McDonald's employee here. And that's
> if there is such a woman. :-)
Yes the economy is very poor. But you said she was "hungry" implying
desperate to get out. Not true. Now if you said she was hungry for FREEDOM
you would have had a point. Don't TELL me what a judge in CVuba is "likely
to earn" you don't have the slightest idea. BUT you ALWAYS in ANY topic hold
yourself out as THE authority on it. No matter what it is.
>> However she was FAR from being "HUNGRY." Yes, she did make less than
>> somebody working at McDonald's.
> Hehehehehehe. You see. I figured right.
Carol that tells only a small part of the story of life in Cuba. The
entire economy is different. BUT - I KNOW yopu are *THE* expert on finance
too!
>> BUT Cuba is a vastly different system with vastly different food costs.
> Food is not the only satisfaction for hunger if your hunger stems from
> wanting a house, and appliances and making a life for oneself. Hungry
> people try to marry up, Ken. That's what they do. The more money a
> woman makes for herself, the less likely her need to marry money.
> And, in your case, you're so old and fat, perhaps she's playing the
> merry widow card....that's if she's still with you at all.
Carol Ann AGAIN as **THE** expert. She owned her own house. As usual
your motor mouth runs unchecked and you portray yourself as *THE* authority
on things yopu lack the intelligence to understand, not to mention the
education. She also had appliances. Hate to break this to ya honey, but they
have had stoves and refrigerators there for decades. HEY - - - they even
have COLOR TV............... You are SUCH an ignorant bombo Carol.. Yes
Carol she's with me and doing fine. She's become quite the material girl
here with her computer, iPod and her new car, (2007 Chevy).
>> For example a pound of pork generally cost her the equivalent of 3 cents
>> U.S.... You make smart assed comments about Cuba based on your ZERO
>> knowledge. She indeed functioned as a magistrate in the tax court,
>> referred to in Cuba as ONAT. (Oficina Nacional de Administración>
>> Tributaria,)
> So you bray, Kenny. It would seem you have an axe to grind. Aren't you
> already a two-time loser?
Oh golly Carol - I have divorced two previous wives. Which helped lead
me to seek out a woman who was totally mentally healthy and not one who
hates men. I don't have the time to take part in the battle of the sexes.
With my Cuban wife I don't have to. SHE - unlike women like YOU - has the
capacity to love men and not hate them. Oh there is a HUGE difference Carol.
Night and day. No - I didn't want a slave - so I didn't go for a Filipina or
east Asian. I don't particularly like dependence or subservience in women
Carol. I dislike it as much as I dislike the man hating of creatures like
you. I don't have to be an entertainment director or baby sitter. It's
marriage on cruise control. All I have to do is love her and treat her with
respect and I get it back double. And THAT drives a hate filled monster like
you completely BAT-SHIT! The thought of a man HAPPY with a woman just drives
you ballistic. HEH HEH HEH.