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ANDRAS  
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From: a...@b.c (ANDRAS)
Date: 1999/10/30
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
In article <19991030091939.13877.qm...@nym.alias.net>,
door...@nym.alias.net broadcasted a bitstream which decodes to...

  I'm impressed that she was jailed. "Wasting police time" is wishy-
washy, though; isn't there such an offense as 'public mischief'?

  "Centre of attention" or quasi-political statement?

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Date: 1999/10/30
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
In article <MPG.12848bc87b096e32989...@news1.qc.sympatico.ca>,
  a...@b.c (ANDRAS) wrote:

   I think it is high time that when anyone makes a false report of
someone committing a felony  that too should be considerd a felony.  It
needs much more then a slap on the hand and a no no.  These things have
ruined men's lives, bankrupted some and I am sure have driven some to
suicide.   It happens all to often in pending divorce cases too.

http://www.vix.com/men/falsereport/adult.html

> ----With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan

community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a
9 year period were studied. These false rape allegations constitute 41%
the total forcible rape cases

>   "Truth does not penetrate the preoccupied mind" - Ch. Darwin
>  Regarding this study, 41% (n= 45) of the total disposed rape cases

(n= 109) were officially declared false during this 9-year period, that
is, by the complainant's admission that no rape had occurred and the
charge, therefore, was false. The incidence figure was variable from
year to year and ranged from a low of 27% (3 out of Il cases) to a high
of 70% (7 out of 10 cases). The 9-year period suggests no trends, and
no explanation has been made for the year-to-year fluctuation.

One of the most haunting and serious implications of false rape
allegations concerns the possibility of miscarried justice. We know
that false convictions occur, but this study only tells us that these
false accusers were weeded out during the very early stages of
investigation. However encouraging this result may be, we cannot claim
that false charging does not incur suffering for the accused. Merely to
be a rape suspect, even for a day or two, translates into psychological
and social trauma.

[Other studies on college campuses have come up with a figure of about
50% for false rape reports]

Quite unexpectedly then, we find that these university women, when
filing a rape complaint, were as likely to file a false as a valid
charge. Other reports from university police agencies support these
findings (Jay, 1991). In both police agencies, the taking of the
complaint and the follow-up investigation was the exclusive
responsibility of a ranking female officer. Neither agency employed the
polygraph and neither declared the complaint false without a
recantation of the charge.

NOTE:  50% of  reported rapes were FALSE!  Yet very little if anything
is done to these women who RUIN men by doing this.  The very mimumum
should be a year in jail for this.  Much more if the man actually went
to trail.  Since it is very expensive to  defend against this, I wonder
how many men plea bargin for a year in jail  as opposed to 10 even
though they are innocent?  (see Innocent MEN in Prison   thread)

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From: Sky King <m...@home.net>
Date: 1999/10/30
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
In article
<527d1d9ec3a26b42d240678f34dd7...@anonymous.poster>,
squir...@echelon.alias.net says...

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Date: 1999/10/30
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim

>NOTE:  50% of  reported rapes were FALSE!

That's false as in by the FBI standard. What that translates into is that 50%
of the time it was either proven impossible for it to have occured, (a very
rare occurance), or that the woman later confessed to have been lying.
Certainly, there are more false accusations then just ones when the woman
admits it later and thus truth is MORE then 50% of the allegations are false.

>>   I'm impressed that she was jailed. "Wasting police time" is wishy-
>> washy, though; isn't there such an offense as 'public mischief'?

How about severe degradation of character? Why isn't she being charged with
that?

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From: Pook <p...@india.com>
Date: 1999/10/30
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim

>On 30 Oct 1999 09:19:39 -0000 Ian Newman <door...@nym.alias.net>
>wrote:

>>From the Mirror, 30 October 1999:

>>      A UNIVERSITY student who cried rape "to be the centre of attention"
>>      burst into tears yesterday when she was jailed for making the story
>>      up.

A sentence of 20 years would be more appropriate. False rape
accusations are probably far too frequent to be dealt with in such a
slight manner.

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From: Lan <as...@zxcv.net>
Date: 1999/10/30
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
In article <19991030091939.13877.qm...@nym.alias.net>, Ian Newman

<door...@nym.alias.net> wrote:
>The courts are beginning to be less sypathetic towards women.

one or two out of thousands that totally arent.

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From: "Phil" <phillewisnos...@dial.pipex.com>
Date: 1999/10/30
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim

Ian Newman <door...@nym.alias.net> wrote in message

news:19991030155605.3347.qmail@nym.alias.net...
| ANDRAS wrote:

|
|
| >> A couple of years ago there was a similar case and the "victim" was
only
| >> reprimanded. A young man had spent time in custody - where he alleged
*he*
| >> was raped - while the inquiry went on.
| >>
| >> The courts are beginning to be less sypathetic towards women.
| >
| >I'm impressed that she was jailed. "Wasting police time" is wishy-
| >washy, though; isn't there such an offense as 'public mischief'?
|
| I don't think so. Wasting police time is fairly serious but she would
| have got longer if she'd been charged with wasting police money.
|
| >"Centre of attention" or quasi-political statement?
|
| I was wondering about that. It gives feminists a lot more street cred if
| they've been raped and/or abused, preferably in this lifetime. Still,
| she'll be a living martyr when she gets out in about three weeks.
|
| The Women Against Rape viragoes have already been phoning radio talk shows
| to claim she has been persecuted. (She pleaded guilty but they're ignoring
| that.)

Yes I also saw a feminist interviewed on the TV news last night - she said
that because she hadn't actually accused SOMEONE the judgement against her
was too harsh!!! At a time when Police resources are stretched to the limit
as it is - this idiotic feminist apparently did not think there was much
wrong causing the following:-
.
Quoting the original article:

 Nine hundred police hours were spent on investigating her "ordeal" at
      the city's university.

      Staff were taken off other inquiries including murder, a real rape
      and a baby-killing.

      David Bowen, prosecuting, said that at one stage 60 officers were
      working on the Jones case.

      "Scientists, intelligence support and forensic experts were
      employed," he added. "This was a major inquiry."

Phil


 
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From: "Phil" <phillewisnos...@dial.pipex.com>
Date: 1999/10/30
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim

Sky King <m...@home.net> wrote in message

news:MPG.1284e1d0d7a4aa8b98a24c@netnews.worldnet.att.net...
| In article
| <527d1d9ec3a26b42d240678f34dd7...@anonymous.poster>,
| squir...@echelon.alias.net says...
| > On 30 Oct 1999 09:19:39 -0000 Ian Newman <door...@nym.alias.net>
| > wrote:

| >
| > >From the Mirror, 30 October 1999:
| > >
| > >      A UNIVERSITY student who cried rape "to be the centre of
attention"
| > >      burst into tears yesterday when she was jailed for making the
story
| > >      up.
| > >
| > >      A big part of a campus was sealed off after Rowena Jones reported
| > >      being attacked, bound, raped and left on a muddy slope beside a
pond.
| > >
| > >      She gave police a 27-page statement detailing the "assault".
| > >
| > >      In fact Jones had pulled down her own trousers and tied herself
up
| > >      with sticky tape from the art department.
| > >
| > >      The 21-year-old pleaded guilty at Exeter magistrates' court to
| > >      wasting police time.
| > >
| > >      Nine hundred police hours were spent on investigating her
"ordeal" at
| > >      the city's university.
| > >
| > >      Staff were taken off other inquiries including murder, a real
rape
| > >      and a baby-killing.
| > >
| > >      David Bowen, prosecuting, said that at one stage 60 officers were
| > >      working on the Jones case.
| > >
| > >      "Scientists, intelligence support and forensic experts were
| > >      employed," he added. "This was a major inquiry."
| > >
| > >      Rachel Bentley, defending, said Jones, who is studying for an MA,
now
| > >      felt remorse.
| > >
| > >      Jones's parents - both teachers from Newport in Shropshire -
reached
| > >      the court soon after she was sentenced to two months in prison.
| > >
| > >
| > >A couple of years ago there was a similar case and the "victim" was
only
| > >reprimanded. A young man had spent time in custody - where he alleged
*he*
| > >was raped - while the inquiry went on.
| > >
| > >The courts are beginning to be less sypathetic towards women.
| > >
| > >
| >
| > I'll bet the National Organization of Women is pissed.  Their
| > resolution is to fight any legislation which punishes women for filing
| > false police reports.
| >
| >
| > The man that was accused should have a civil remedy too.  Hit her in the
pocket
| book.

In this case she merely said that she was "raped by a stranger" no man was
ever accused in THIS case, however her action WASTED a LOT of valuable time
and resources when those involved could have been working on some very REAL
cases.

Phil

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Date: 1999/10/30
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
In article <7vflq0$pu...@lure.pipex.net>, phillewisnos...@dial.pipex.com
broadcasted a bitstream which decodes to...
[...]

>  Nine hundred police hours were spent on investigating her "ordeal" at
>       the city's university.

  They were looking for a violent sexual predator. There are such devices
out there, and it is the duty of the coppers to try to bust him before
more of the population (especially college girls) gets attacked. Sure
they put effort into it; that's why she deserves to cool her jets for a
while. Such a stunt is not cute; the fable of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"
neatly sums up the moral of the story.

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Date: 1999/10/30
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
In article <19991030121649.27595.00000...@ng-cj1.aol.com>,
  hombrev...@aol.com (HombreVIII) wrote:

Good poin Hombre and I think if a woman falsely accuses a certain man
(by name ect)  she should be charged with rape herself since she
psychologically raped him.  The  charge agaisnt her should be as
serious as the charge agaist him!  Maybe then and only then, the number
of them would drop.


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From: tetr...@my-deja.com
Date: 1999/10/31
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
In article <SugaOAiuDIWtMIExVVJng3WbP...@4ax.com>,

Repost from another string with this title but it needs to be repeated:

  I think it is high time that when anyone makes a false report of
someone committing a felony  that too should be considerd a felony.  It
needs much more then a slap on the hand and a no no.  These things have
ruined men's lives, bankrupted some and I am sure have driven some to
suicide.  It happens all to often in pending divorce cases too.

http://www.vix.com/men/falsereport/adult.html

> ----With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan

community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a
9 year period were studied. These false rape allegations constitute 41%
the total forcible rape cases

>  "Truth does not penetrate the preoccupied mind" - Ch. Darwin
>  Regarding this study, 41% (n= 45) of the total disposed rape cases

(n= 109) were officially declared false during this 9-year period, that
is, by the complainant's admission that no rape had occurred and the
charge, therefore, was false. The incidence figure was variable from
year to year and ranged from a low of 27% (3 out of Il cases) to a high
of 70% (7 out of 10 cases). The 9-year period suggests no trends, and
no explanation has been made for the year-to-year fluctuation.

One of the most haunting and serious implications of false rape
allegations concerns the possibility of miscarried justice. We know
that false convictions occur, but this study only tells us that these
false accusers were weeded out during the very early stages of
investigation. However encouraging this result may be, we cannot claim
that false charging does not incur suffering for the accused. Merely to
be a rape suspect, even for a day or two, translates into psychological
and social trauma.

[Other studies on college campuses have come up with a figure of about
50% for false rape reports]

> "He who, who he"

--
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FOR ALL
WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS THE FEMINST MOVEMENT WOULD NOT EXIST!

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From: tetr...@my-deja.com
Date: 1999/10/31
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
In article <7vflq0$pu...@lure.pipex.net>,
  "Phil" <phillewisnos...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

Repost from another string with this title but it needs to be repeated:

  I think it is high time that when anyone makes a false report of
someone committing a felony  that too should be considerd a felony.  It
needs much more then a slap on the hand and a no no.  These things have
ruined men's lives, bankrupted some and I am sure have driven some to
suicide.  It happens all to often in pending divorce cases too.

http://www.vix.com/men/falsereport/adult.html

> ----With the cooperation of the police agency of a small metropolitan

community, 45 consecutive, disposed, false rape allegations covering a
9 year period were studied. These false rape allegations constitute 41%
the total forcible rape cases

>  "Truth does not penetrate the preoccupied mind" - Ch. Darwin
>  Regarding this study, 41% (n= 45) of the total disposed rape cases

(n= 109) were officially declared false during this 9-year period, that
is, by the complainant's admission that no rape had occurred and the
charge, therefore, was false. The incidence figure was variable from
year to year and ranged from a low of 27% (3 out of Il cases) to a high
of 70% (7 out of 10 cases). The 9-year period suggests no trends, and
no explanation has been made for the year-to-year fluctuation.

One of the most haunting and serious implications of false rape
allegations concerns the possibility of miscarried justice. We know
that false convictions occur, but this study only tells us that these
false accusers were weeded out during the very early stages of
investigation. However encouraging this result may be, we cannot claim
that false charging does not incur suffering for the accused. Merely to
be a rape suspect, even for a day or two, translates into psychological
and social trauma.

[Other studies on college campuses have come up with a figure of about
50% for false rape reports]


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From: yl...@dial.pipex.com (Mark Horner)
Date: 1999/10/31
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
On 30 Oct 1999 15:32:46 -0000, squir...@echelon.alias.net (Kane)
wrote:

>I'll bet the National Organization of Women is pissed.  Their
>resolution is to fight any legislation which punishes women for filing
>false police reports.

Strange, you'd think anyone interested in securing justice, especially
through the often murky details of rape,  would want to stamp down
hard on obviously fabricated accounts.    

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Date: 1999/10/31
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
Jesus, women like that make it even more of a nightmare for real rape
victims. Stupid bitch.

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Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
If you believe that's how I meant it... well.. good for you.

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Date: 1999/10/31
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim

S wrote:

> If you believe that's how I meant it... well.. good for you.

That is the only problem you saw. That is the only problem
feminism sees.

Can you name any other problems with false rape accusations?

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Date: 1999/10/31
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim

Ian Newman wrote:

> S wrote:

> >Jesus, women like that make it even more of a nightmare for real rape
> >victims. Stupid bitch.

> >--
> >Sonia.

> No concern for men who might be falsely accused, just concern for females.

Over the years several feminists (like Avedon) have claimed that this is
not the only thing that feminists see wrong with false rape accusations,
but I have never seen a single feminist come up with anything different.
A rare few after much debate have admitted that there may be another problem,
but it is absolutely never something that either occurs to them or is even
obvious to them when it is pointed out.

That an innocent man may spend ten years in prison is not a feminist problem
and never will be.

> Typical feminist blinkered thinking.

No, it's typical sexist thinking, sexist to the core.

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Date: 1999/11/01
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
Hiya Andras.

Recall what Bart Simpson said about that story? He was asked if he had heard
about it, and his response was:

"Yeah, I've heard about it. Boy cries 'Wolf!', has a few laughs .... I
forget how it ends."

heh heh.

Of course, this case is serious, but you started it, with your talk of
crying wolf.

Cheers,

Geoff.

_______________________

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Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
In article <7vjjq9$eb...@towncrier.cc.monash.edu.au>,
Geoffrey.Tran...@BusEco.Monash.edu.au broadcasted a bitstream which
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> Hiya Andras.

> Recall what Bart Simpson said about that story? He was asked if he had heard
> about it, and his response was:

> "Yeah, I've heard about it. Boy cries 'Wolf!', has a few laughs .... I
> forget how it ends."

> heh heh.

> Of course, this case is serious, but you started it, with your talk of
> crying wolf.

  Pardon me? I'm not sure that I get your drift here.

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From: j_...@home.com (Jeff Lindstrom)
Date: 1999/11/06
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim

In article <SugaOAiuDIWtMIExVVJng3WbP...@4ax.com>, p...@india.com wrote:

> >On 30 Oct 1999 09:19:39 -0000 Ian Newman <door...@nym.alias.net>=20
> >wrote:

> >>From the Mirror, 30 October 1999:

> >>      A UNIVERSITY student who cried rape "to be the centre of
> >> attention" burst into tears yesterday when she was jailed for making the
> >> story  up.
> A sentence of 20 years would be more appropriate. False rape
> accusations are probably far too frequent to be dealt with in such a
> slight manner.

  This was almost 20 years ago, but a woman recanted a rape claim she made
(to cover up a consensual sex act from her parents while she was a
teenager).  As a result of her original claim, a man was arrested,
convicted and spent several years in jail (she claims she felt trapped
into testifying against him as he so closely matched her description of
her assailant).

  A conversion to a more religious lifestyle prompted her to come clean and
the man was freed.

  She never spent any time in jail and I doubt she compensated the man in
any meaningful way.

Jeff

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From: Sky King <m...@home.net>
Date: 1999/11/06
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
In article
<3XTU3.6584$zd.108...@news1.alsv1.occa.home.com>,
j_...@home.com says...

I am sure if I were the man who did the time I could
think of a way to punish her.
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From: sic transit gloria mundi <cadaz...@my-deja.com>
Date: 1999/11/06
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
In article <7vganv$hp...@newsource.ihug.co.nz>,
  "S" <nikhil@***ihug.co.nz> wrote:

> Jesus, women like that make it even more of a nightmare for real rape
> victims. Stupid bitch.

> --
> Sonia.

Absolutely, hardly helpful is it? Vey rare event though, out of
hundreds and hundreds of studies it has never been a particularly
prominent feature.

Men do of course get accused of crimes that are not always entirely
their fault. It is neither simple or clear cut.

Consenuality can be legitimately mistaken or confused. However most sex
crime against females are not reported because the females can't see
any point. It is an uphill jouney for them.

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From: Pook <p...@india.com>
Date: 1999/11/06
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 11:04:31 GMT, j_...@home.com (Jeff Lindstrom)
wrote:

If God were fair...she would pay in HELL. More realistically, she
really should have spent time in the big house. It is even more
frightening to think howe many people are sent to jail for rape
without any actual "evidence". Kind of makes you wonder how many of
these innocent guys are sitting in jail

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From: Pook <p...@india.com>
Date: 1999/11/06
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 16:41:52 GMT, sic transit gloria mundi

<cadaz...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>In article <7vganv$hp...@newsource.ihug.co.nz>,
>  "S" <nikhil@***ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>> Jesus, women like that make it even more of a nightmare for real rape
>> victims. Stupid bitch.
>Absolutely, hardly helpful is it? Vey rare event though, out of
>hundreds and hundreds of studies it has never been a particularly
>prominent feature.

Actually, it is unknown how "rare" it is. Studies can't really help
much here since the problem derives from problems inherent in our
legal system.

>Men do of course get accused of crimes that are not always entirely
>their fault. It is neither simple or clear cut.

>Consenuality can be legitimately mistaken or confused. However most sex
>crime against females are not reported because the females can't see
>any point. It is an uphill jouney for them.

Again....we can only speculate that "most" or even "any" sex crimes go
unreported. IMHO I would say "some" go unreported..but I can't even
prove that ANY go unreported (by definition).

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From: Sky King <m...@home.net>
Date: 1999/11/06
Subject: Re: Woman jailed for false rape claim
In article <a18kONwZsxUcLfzrUN5WlvvyG...@4ax.com>,
p...@india.com says...
> On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 16:41:52 GMT, sic transit gloria mundi
> <cadaz...@my-deja.com> wrote:

> >In article <7vganv$hp...@newsource.ihug.co.nz>,
> >  "S" <nikhil@***ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> >> Jesus, women like that make it even more of a nightmare for real rape
> >> victims. Stupid bitch.

> >Absolutely, hardly helpful is it? Vey rare event though, out of
> >hundreds and hundreds of studies it has never been a particularly
> >prominent feature.

FBI stats show that 1 out of 4 rape claims are false.  
That is 25%.  Time to hang some lying bitches.

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