Cardinal: Women should stay at home and breed

[J]

While the Cardinal doesn't seem to possess the greatest communication
skills and his views aren't going to be very popular with feminists,
he does make some valid points:

1) Immigration is not the answer to every problem nations face today.

2) Women who choose to stay at home to take care of their husband and
children should not be demonized by society.

3) Women who choose to be a stay-at-home mother should not have to
worry about a financially secure future if her husband pre-deceases
her.







http://www.thelocal.de/society/20130524-49877.html








Cardinal of Cologne Joachim Meisner told the Stuttgarter Zeitung
newspaper this week that he wanted to see German women having more
babies rather than leaving the home to develop careers and earn money.

He said all-day schools and child care were not a problem for him, but
suggested, "It would be better for society to create a climate where
women had more children. That means promoting the high value of the
family with mother and father for the children. Of course the material
security of the wife, for her later pension too, must be secured."

He said he had experienced what he called a one-sided tragedy growing
up in communist East Germany - where he said women who stayed at home
to look after children were told they were demented. He said child
care was invented to free up women for the workforce.

When it was suggested to him that women wanted to experience careers
and develop themselves at the workplace, Meisner said, "Not all" and
criticized Chancellor Angela Merkel's policy of encouraging young
foreign workers to come to Germany.

"Where are women really publicly encouraged to stay at home and have
three or four children? One should intervene here and not - as Mrs
Merkel does currently - present immigration as the solution to our
demographic problem.

"We cannot take the young people away from Portugal and Spain and thus
rob their countries of their future just out of egotism. We should
train these unemployed people and offer them perspectives, but then
allow them to return home where they are needed."

Meisner, who is about to turn 80, and will retire soon, attracted
attention previously when he appeared to compare abortion in Germany
with the Holocaust.

When asked about this in the Stuttgarter Zeitung newspaper, he said:
"I called things for what they were - situations where people put
themselves in charge of life. We are a dying people yet we have a
perfect legal framework for abortion. Is that not the suicide of a
society? At best one also wants the women out of the family so that
production can continue. One cannot get children with money alone."












J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com

Honesty. Decency. Integrity

[&]

On 05/26/2013 09:52 PM, J wrote:
>
>
>
> While the Cardinal doesn't seem to possess the greatest communication
> skills and his views aren't going to be very popular with feminists,
> he does make some valid points:
>
> 1) Immigration is not the answer to every problem nations face today.
>
> 2) Women who choose to stay at home to take care of their husband and
> children should not be demonized by society.
>
> 3) Women who choose to be a stay-at-home mother should not have to
> worry about a financially secure future if her husband pre-deceases
> her.
>

lazy women shouldnt be supported or encouraged . tired old men should
stay at home and be quiet

[Jeanne Douglas]

What lazy women?

--

JD

"Osama Bin Laden is dead and GM is alive."--VP Joseph Biden

[J]

Excellent question, Jeanne. Motherhood is a full-time job and is by no
means the labor of a lazy women. It is one of the hardest, yet most
rewarding job that a woman can devote herself to

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <u6p5q893p8el8ncdg...@4ax.com>,

For those women who wish to do it. Not all of us are capable of it. It's
a highly skilled job that requires certain talents and some of us don't
have the skills nor the talents for it. I know I am in awe of such
women. I could never do it; it would be impossible.

That's why I'm the perfect aunt.

Society is still working out the kinks. There are stereotypes which
prevent progress, but we're getting closer. Boy children need to be
taught housekeeping chores the same as the girls and everyone shares the
work equally. Women are still bearing the brunt in too many families,
and trying to be superwomen is not good for them. There's way too much
stress out there; this is one area that makes me glad not to be any
younger.

[SkyEyes]

On May 27, 1:25 am, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
> In article <u6p5q893p8el8ncdgc8iothqetgbmm1...@4ax.com>,

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 26 May 2013 21:38:33 -0700, Jeanne Douglas

> > <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

Sing it, sister! I knew I was not mother material at age 11, and I
was *right*. I admire the women who do have the motherhood gene -
well, those who actually parent their child and don't merely grunt one
out and then ignore it for the rest of its life - but I haven't got
it, and I couldn't have done the job.

Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34 and A+ atheist
BAAWA Knight of the Golden Litterbox
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net OR
skyeyes nine at yahoo dot com

[Mitchell Holman]

J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote in news:k8e5q8h4anp6ca9lqod5fppsu1hv7ujq16@
4ax.com:

>
>
>
> While the Cardinal doesn't seem to possess the greatest communication
> skills and his views aren't going to be very popular with feminists,
> he does make some valid points:
>
> 1) Immigration is not the answer to every problem nations face today.
>
> 2) Women who choose to stay at home to take care of their husband and
> children should not be demonized by society.
>

What demonizing is that?

> 3) Women who choose to be a stay-at-home mother should not have to
> worry about a financially secure future if her husband pre-deceases
> her.
>

Such a woman should marry her brother in law
(and his wife) as the Bible commands.




In Deuteronomy 25:5 if a woman's husband dies, and she
didn't have any kids from him, then she must marry his
brother regardless whether he had a wife or not.

[Kenny McCormack]

In article <XnsA1CD4D0E94C31...@216.196.121.131>,
Mitchell Holman <nomailverizon.net> wrote:
...

>> 2) Women who choose to stay at home to take care of their husband and
>> children should not be demonized by society.
>>
>
> What demonizing is that?

"Demonizing" in the "Christian Victim Syndrome" sense - that is, anything
less than absolute worship and adulation.

>> 3) Women who choose to be a stay-at-home mother should not have to
>> worry about a financially secure future if her husband pre-deceases
>> her.

Just remember this: All 3 of the pilars of our culture (Government,
Religion, and the Corporatocracy) depend on perpetual population growth.

They are all in for a rude awakening in the coming years.

--
One of the best lines I've heard lately:

Obama could cure cancer tomorrow, and the Republicans would be
complaining that he had ruined the pharmaceutical business.

(Heard on Stephanie Miller = but the sad thing is that there is an awful lot
of direct truth in it. We've constructed an economy in which eliminating
cancer would be a horrible disaster. There are many other such examples.)

[Syd M.]

On May 26, 9:52 pm, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> While the Cardinal doesn't seem to possess the greatest communication
> skills and his views aren't going to be very popular with feminists,
> he does make some valid points:
>
>

AKA, he says what IBen and the bigots want to hear.

PDW

[Syd M.]

On May 27, 12:57 am, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 May 2013 21:38:33 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> >In article <knuf96$q6...@speranza.aioe.org>, & <am...@sand.com> wrote:
>
> >> On 05/26/2013 09:52 PM, J wrote:
>
> >> > While the Cardinal doesn't seem to possess the greatest communication
> >> > skills and his views aren't going to be very popular with feminists,
> >> > he does make some valid points:
>
> >> > 1) Immigration is not the answer to every problem nations face today.
>
> >> > 2) Women who choose to stay at home to take care of their husband and
> >> > children should not be demonized by society.
>
> >> > 3) Women who choose to be a stay-at-home mother should not have to
> >> > worry about a financially secure future if her husband pre-deceases
> >> > her.
>
> >> lazy women shouldnt be supported or encouraged . tired old men should
> >> stay at home and be quiet
>
> >What lazy women?
>
> Excellent question, Jeanne. Motherhood is a full-time job and is by no
> means the labor of a lazy women. It is one of the hardest, yet most
> rewarding job that a woman can devote herself to
>
>

One of the hardest, anyway, if what I hear is true.
Rewarding, I doubt that.

PDW

[&]

On 05/27/2013 04:25 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <u6p5q893p8el8ncdg...@4ax.com>,
> J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
>> Excellent question, Jeanne. Motherhood is a full-time job and is by no
>> means the labor of a lazy women. It is one of the hardest, yet most
>> rewarding job that a woman can devote herself to
>

soft feminist speech from coddled old democrat who sits on ass posting
inflammatory crap all day . if housewives are lazy you don't get gold
medal for achievement either , if they have to follow expectations then
they have double reason to look down on big belly union chimps

> For those women who wish to do it. Not all of us are capable of it. It's
> a highly skilled job that requires certain talents and some of us don't
> have the skills nor the talents for it. I know I am in awe of such
> women. I could never do it; it would be impossible.
>

overrated kindergarten skills

> That's why I'm the perfect aunt.
>

spinster

> Society is still working out the kinks. There are stereotypes which
> prevent progress, but we're getting closer. Boy children need to be
> taught housekeeping chores the same as the girls and everyone shares the
> work equally.

not till women share all military duty equally first with equal
suffering , but softy will let you off the hook while you shame the boys
to make the girls feel special

> Women are still bearing the brunt in too many families,

women dont bear anything yet

> and trying to be superwomen is not good for them.

it would be if they made honest effort , so much for equality

> There's way too much
> stress out there;

life in hell you want men to bring home money while you lay back and
crack whip as soon as he walks through door saying do half the housework
now too nigger where does your tale of woe end

>this is one area that makes me glad not to be any
> younger.
>

so whats keeping you from getting a job , can't find something easy that
pays you room board cash and sex to eat and complain all day ?

[Dakota]

On 5/27/2013 4:05 AM, SkyEyes wrote:
> On May 27, 1:25 am, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <u6p5q893p8el8ncdgc8iothqetgbmm1...@4ax.com>,
>>
>> J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 May 2013 21:38:33 -0700, Jeanne Douglas
>>> <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> In article <knuf96$q6...@speranza.aioe.org>, & <am...@sand.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> On 05/26/2013 09:52 PM, J wrote:
>>
>>>>>> While the Cardinal doesn't seem to possess the greatest communication
>>>>>> skills and his views aren't going to be very popular with feminists,
>>>>>> he does make some valid points:
>>
>>>>>> 1) Immigration is not the answer to every problem nations face today.
>>
>>>>>> 2) Women who choose to stay at home to take care of their husband and
>>>>>> children should not be demonized by society.
>>
>>>>>> 3) Women who choose to be a stay-at-home mother should not have to
>>>>>> worry about a financially secure future if her husband pre-deceases
>>>>>> her.
>>
>>>>> lazy women shouldnt be supported or encouraged . tired old men should
>>>>> stay at home and be quiet
>>
>>>> What lazy women?
>>
>>> Excellent question, Jeanne. Motherhood is a full-time job and is by no
>>> means the labor of a lazy women. It is one of the hardest, yet most
>>> rewarding job that a woman can devote herself to
>

Is anyone surprised that misogynistic J posted only to alt.atheism and
soc.men? I've added soc.women to the list.

>
>> For those women who wish to do it. Not all of us are capable of it. It's
>> a highly skilled job that requires certain talents and some of us don't
>> have the skills nor the talents for it. I know I am in awe of such
>> women. I could never do it; it would be impossible.
>

Parenthood remains the greatest single preserve of the amateur. -
Alvin Toffler

[Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·]

"Dakota" <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in
message news:ko07k8$i7t$1...@dont-email.me...

>> Sing it, sister! I knew I was not mother material at age 11, and I
>> was *right*. I admire the women who do have the motherhood gene -
>> well, those who actually parent their child and don't merely grunt one
>> out and then ignore it for the rest of its life - but I haven't got
>> it, and I couldn't have done the job.

Classic cop-out. You don't know how well you can do
a thing until you try it.

--
Sir Gregory

[Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·]

"Jeanne Douglas" <hlwd...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in
message news:hlwdjsd2-1D5E0F...@news.giganews.com...

>
> Society is still working out the kinks. There are stereotypes which
> prevent progress, but we're getting closer. Boy children need to be
> taught housekeeping chores the same as the girls and everyone shares the
> work equally. Women are still bearing the brunt in too many families,
> and trying to be superwomen is not good for them. There's way too much
> stress out there; this is one area that makes me glad not to be any
> younger.

What a crock of hock! Boys need to be taught how to be men.
Girls need to be taught how to be women. The genders should
NOT be blurred as it is anathema to both when they have no
clear roles and/or role models.

Sharing the work equally doesn't mean everybody does everything.
Sharing the work equally means each gender does equal amounts
of work but that which suits their temperament and physicality best.

For instance, little girls should not have to share the work of felling
trees and chopping wood (farm family). Little boys shouldn't have
to do the dishes and cooking as they are felling trees and chopping
wood. Why, saddle little boys and little girls with work they are
frustrated trying to do? Makes no sense at all. I don't see the mom
out there felling trees and chopping wood so why should the daughter
be forced to do unsuitable work like that?

It is important that each gender be taught to do the things which
that gender excels at - not some stupid idea of fairness involving
everybody taking a turn at everything. Character is grown by being
content with one's work - not by being bored or frustrated by it.

This is something you women just can't seem to understand.

--
Sir Gregory

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>

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"Checkmate" <Lunati...@The.Edge> taunted
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> Sir Gregory Hall, Esq� spoke wisely...

>>
>> What a crock of hock! Boys need to be taught how to be men
>
> YOU need to be taught how to be a man, you effeminate tranny-fucker.

You need to grow a pair and come say that to my face. You'd
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On Mon, 27 May 2013 14:53:57 -0400, Sir Gregory Hall, Esqￜ put forth
the notion that:


>

> "Checkmate" <Lunati...@The.Edge> taunted
> in message news:6jsv0q....@news.alt.net...

> > Sir Gregory Hall, Esqￜ spoke wisely...

> >>
> >> What a crock of hock! Boys need to be taught how to be men
> >
> > YOU need to be taught how to be a man, you effeminate tranny-fucker.
>
> You need to grow a pair and come say that to my face. You'd
> look real nice with a size ten boot up your ass, punk!

LOL! What would you do, run me over with your Hoveround? Throw your
walker at me?

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <ko05p5$anb$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, & <am...@sand.com> wrote:

> On 05/27/2013 04:25 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> > In article <u6p5q893p8el8ncdg...@4ax.com>,
> > J <jdyo...@ymail.com> wrote:
> >> Excellent question, Jeanne. Motherhood is a full-time job and is by no
> >> means the labor of a lazy women. It is one of the hardest, yet most
> >> rewarding job that a woman can devote herself to
> >
>
> soft feminist speech from coddled old democrat who sits on ass posting
> inflammatory crap all day . if housewives are lazy you don't get gold
> medal for achievement either , if they have to follow expectations then
> they have double reason to look down on big belly union chimps
>
> > For those women who wish to do it. Not all of us are capable of it. It's
> > a highly skilled job that requires certain talents and some of us don't
> > have the skills nor the talents for it. I know I am in awe of such
> > women. I could never do it; it would be impossible.
> >
>
> overrated kindergarten skills
>
> > That's why I'm the perfect aunt.
> >
>
> spinster

Didn't know anybody still used that silly word.

> > Society is still working out the kinks. There are stereotypes which
> > prevent progress, but we're getting closer. Boy children need to be
> > taught housekeeping chores the same as the girls and everyone shares the
> > work equally.
>
> not till women share all military duty equally first with equal
> suffering , but softy will let you off the hook while you shame the boys
> to make the girls feel special

Care to translate that word salad into English?

> > Women are still bearing the brunt in too many families,
>
> women dont bear anything yet
>
> > and trying to be superwomen is not good for them.
>
> it would be if they made honest effort , so much for equality
>
> > There's way too much
> > stress out there;
>
> life in hell you want men to bring home money while you lay back and
> crack whip as soon as he walks through door saying do half the housework
> now too nigger where does your tale of woe end
>
> >this is one area that makes me glad not to be any
> > younger.
> >
>
> so whats keeping you from getting a job , can't find something easy that
> pays you room board cash and sex to eat and complain all day ?

I have a pension.

[&]

On 05/27/2013 10:41 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
> In article <ko05p5$anb$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, & <am...@sand.com> wrote:
>> spinster
>
> Didn't know anybody still used that silly word.
>

youre silly . the word puts parasites like you on public display

>>
>> not till women share all military duty equally first with equal
>> suffering , but softy will let you off the hook while you shame the boys
>> to make the girls feel special
>
> Care to translate that word salad into English?
>

care to get a highschool diploma ? chivalry feminist admits shes all
take and no give where it counts

>>
>> so whats keeping you from getting a job , can't find something easy that
>> pays you room board cash and sex to eat and complain all day ?
>
> I have a pension.
>

youre a woman , your word is crap . its just euphemism for guaranteed
allowance , like social security alimony family business or trust fund

[SkyEyes]

On May 27, 11:24 am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·" <gregh...@home.fåke>
wrote:
> "Dakota" <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in
>    messagenews:ko07k8$i7t$1...@dont-email.me...

>
> >> Sing it, sister!  I knew I was not mother material at age 11, and I
> >> was *right*.  I admire the women who do have the motherhood gene -
> >> well, those who actually parent their child and don't merely grunt one
> >> out and then ignore it for the rest of its life - but I haven't got
> >> it, and I couldn't have done the job.
>
> Classic cop-out. You don't know how well you can do
> a thing until you try it.

Ah, but I *did* try it. I'm nearly 9 years older than my brother, and
our mother was a semi-invalid. I put in quite a bit of effort in
raising him, and he was a *good* baby who (apart from an early bout of
colic) didn't cry much. What little I did was enough to assure me
that I didn't have what it takes to parent a child..

[SkyEyes]

On May 27, 11:32 am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·" <gregh...@home.fåke>
wrote:
> "Jeanne Douglas" <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in
>     messagenews:hlwdjsd2-1D5E0F...@news.giganews.com...

My father, who served with distinction in WWII and was as manly a man
as you could hope to find, knew these sentiments to be balderdash.
You do what needs to be done, and "gender roles" be damned. He knew
that no girl could predict what was in her future, so he made sure I
was self-reliant in all the areas that counted, so that whether I had
a man or not, I could still survive. He'd come in from working 14
hours a day in the hot Arizona sun and, if my mother was having a bad
health day, he'd simply take over and do what needed to be done,
whether it was cooking dinner or doing the laundry or running the
vacuum. And he taught me that men who scream about having well-
defined gender roles are men who are queasy about their own manhood.
There's simply work, no labels, and you gotta do what you gotta do.

When he died it was standing room only at his funeral, so I'm not the
only one who thought the world of him.

[Jeanne Douglas]

Wrong. It's my reward for working hard for 27 years and taking a lower
salary.

[&]

still playing 20 questions . to women working hard can mean pushing
pencils for daddys company from home while he pays rent for you . just
like lower salary means less skills / otj training , just like 27 girl
years is same as 40 boy years . how to sponge , every womans book ever
written . the way of the leech , martial art for women

[Jeanne Douglas]

Well, that's the end of your misogyny.

[Jeanne Douglas]

In article <ko1l1u$rc0$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, & <am...@sand.com> wrote:

Why haven't you moved to Iran or Pakistan or Afghanistan. They treat
women the way you think they should be treated.

[cipher]

On Mon, 27 May 2013 11:43:06 -0700, Checkmate Inscribed upon the Golden
Tablets of Usenet thusly:

> Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
> Checkmate!
>

> On Mon, 27 May 2013 14:32:17 -0400, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· put forth

> the notion that:
>
>
>> What a crock of hock! Boys need to be taught how to be men
>>
>>
> YOU need to be taught how to be a man, you effeminate tranny-fucker.

^^^^^^
fuckee.

Correcting your typo...



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On Tue, 28 May 2013 03:00:06 -0400, & <am...@sand.com> wrote in
alt.atheism:

You seem to have made it very clear that you are an ignorant misogynist.
Who taught you to hate so much?

[nature bats last]

On May 28, 12:54 am, Jeanne Douglas <hlwdj...@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

> In article <ko1l1u$rc...@speranza.aioe.org>, & <am...@sand.com> wrote:
> > On 2013-05-28 01:23 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:

> > > In article <ko1d7c$ab...@speranza.aioe.org>, & <am...@sand.com> wrote:
>
> > >> youre a woman , your word is crap . its just euphemism for guaranteed
> > >> allowance , like social security alimony family business or trust fund
>
> > > Wrong. It's my reward for working hard for 27 years and taking a lower
> > > salary.
>
> > still playing 20 questions . to women working hard can mean pushing
> > pencils for daddys company from home while he pays rent for you . just
> > like lower salary means less skills / otj training , just like 27 girl
> > years is same as 40 boy years . how to sponge , every womans book ever
> > written . the way of the leech , martial art for women


;
> Well, that's the end of your misogyny.

I always feel a bit sad for these whiny little
types: their fear and hatred of women robs
them of the very best thing about being a
man, to wit: women.


NBL

[&]

equal work for equal pay is too eastern for jeanne . everyone else knows
its western . jeanne lives in her own world . i win

[&]

On 05/28/2013 03:54 AM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
>>
>> still playing 20 questions . to women working hard can mean pushing
>> pencils for daddys company from home while he pays rent for you . just
>> like lower salary means less skills / otj training , just like 27 girl
>> years is same as 40 boy years . how to sponge , every womans book ever
>> written . the way of the leech , martial art for women
>
> Well, that's the end of your misogyny.
>

no its the end of your sexism troll . i win

[Tom McDonald]

No, not really. You still have to be you. That's a loss.

[not good]

Democrat freaks.

[Tom McDonald]

Not this Democrat.

[pandora]

And so say we all.

P.S. You've run across AUK's resident misogynist (or pretend one) who is
bored and desperate since none of the women here will respond to him any
more. He's just desperate for attention or a jerk; or perhaps both.

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by george she's got it

[Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·]

"SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote in message
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=======================[reply]======================

Stick to the subject at hand, why don't you. I post an essay on how
stupid it is to force children to do work and chores and other things
that their gender doesn't suit them to do. I point out why this idiocy
in the name of gender equality is a sham extension of feminism.

I stated that gender equality is a myth as there is no such thing
and forcing children to do things that blur their very distinct genders
harms them for life - not to mention reduces efficiency, as suitability
for a job results in a job well done while non suitability results in
a job poorly done and frustrates the doer.

The statement I replied to was the following:

"Boy children need to be taught housekeeping chores the same
as the girls and everyone shares the work equally."

This is a misandrist statement if ever I heard one. Forcing boys to
do girls work and vice versa is inherent in that statement. So why
not force boys to wear girl's clothing? Make them wear make-up?

Notice how the misandrist OP doesn't say girls need to be taught
farm hand field work, or mechanic work, or digging fence pole
holes or hauling hay bales but, egad, is she ever willing to force
boys into a girl's role thus damaging a developing psyche that
years to become a man. You know, yearns to be just like Dad
and not just like Mom.

Your example of a *grown man* doing what needs to be done
is totally unrelated to the discussion. So, next time, pay closer
attention before your run your uppity mouth. What you just did
is make your gender look inept, uninformed and maudlin.

IOW, you pretty much proved my point about the importance
of gender differences.

--
Sir Gregory

[%]

1. ADULT CHILDREN GUESS AT WHAT NORMAL IS

There is no frame of reference for what it is like to be in a normal
household. You also have no frame of reference for what is O.K. to say and
feel. In a more typical situation, one does not have to walk on eggs all the
time. Because you did, you became confused. Many things from the past
contributed to your having to guess at what normal is.
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2. ADULT CHILDREN HAVE DIFFICULTY IN FOLLOWING A PROJECT THROUGH FROM
BEGINNING TO END

In a functional family, the child has this behaviour and attitude to model.
The child observes the process and the child may even ask questions along
the way. The learning may be more indirect than direct, but it is present.
Since your experience was so vastly different, it should be no surprise that
you have a problem with following a project through from beginning to end.
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3. ADULT CHILDREN LIE WHEN IT WOULD BE JUST AS EASY TO TELL THE TRUTH

Lying is basic to the family system affected by alcohol. It masquerades in
part as an overt denial of unpleasant realities, cover ups, broken promises
and inconsistencies. Lying as the norm in your house became part of what you
knew and what could be useful to you. At times, it made life much more
comfortable. If you lied about getting your work done, you could get away
with being lazy for a while. It seemed to make life simpler for everybody.
Return to top

4. ADULT CHILDREN JUDGE THEMSELVES WITHOUT MERCY

Your judgement of others is not nearly as harsh as your judgement of
yourself, although it is hard for you to see other people’s behaviour in
terms of a continuum either. Black and white, good or bad, are typically the
way you look at things. You know what it feels like to be bad, and how those
feeling make you behave. And then if you are good there is always the risk
that it won't last. So either way you set yourself up.
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5. ADULT CHILDREN HAVE DIFFICULTY HAVING FUN
6. ADULT CHILDREN TAKE THEMSELVES VERY SERIOUSLY

These two characteristics are closely linked.
You didn’t hear your parents laughing and joking and fooling around. Life
was a very serious, angry business. The tone in your house put a damper on
your fun. Eventually, you just went along with everybody else. Having fun
just was not fun. The spontaneous child within was quashed.
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7. ADULT CHILDREN HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH INTIMATE RELATIONSHIPS

The feelings of being insecure or having difficulty in trusting, and of
questions about whether or not you are going to get hurt are not exclusive
to adult children. These are problems most people have. It is simply a
matter of degree, your being a child of an alcoholic caused the ordinary
difficulties to become more severe.
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8. ADULT CHILDREN OVER-REACT TO CHANGES OVER WHICH THEY HAVE NO CONTROL

The young child of an alcoholic was not in control. The alcoholics’s life
was inflicted on him/her, as was his/her environment. In order to survive
when growing up, he/she needed to turn that around. He/she needed to begin
taking charge of his/her environment. This became important and remains so.
The child of the alcoholic learns to trust him/herself more than anyone else
when it is impossible to rely on someone else’s judgement.
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9. ADULT CHILDREN CONSTANTLY SEEK APPROVAL AND AFFIRMATION

The message you got as a child was very confused. It was not unconditional
love. The definitions were not clear and the messages were mixed. “Yes, no,
I love you, go away.” So you grew up with some confusion about yourself.
The affirmations you did not get on a day-to-day basis as a child, you
interpret as negative.
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10. ADULT CHILDREN FEEL THAT THEY ARE DIFFERENT FROM OTHER PEOPLE

Feeling different is something you have had with you since childhood, and
even if the circumstance does not warrant it, the feeling prevails. Other
children have had the opportunity to be children. You did not. You were very
much concerned with what was going on at home. You could never be completely
comfortable playing with other children. You could not be fully there. Your
concerns about your home problems clouded everything else in your life.
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11. ADULT CHILDREN ARE EITHER SUPER RESPONSIBLE OR SUPER IRRESPONSIBLE

Either you take it all on or you give it all up. There is no middle ground.
You tried to please your parents, doing more and more, or you reached the
point where you recognized it did not matter, so you did nothing.
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12. ADULT CHILDREN ARE EXTREMELY LOYAL, EVEN IN THE FACE OF EVIDENCE THAT
THE LOYALTY IS UNDESERVED

The alcoholic home appears to be a very loyal place. Family members hang in
long after reasons dictate that they should leave. The so-called “loyalty”
is more the result of fear and insecurity than anything else, nevertheless,
the behaviour that is modeled is one where no one walks away just because
the going gets rough. This sense enables the adult child to remain in
involvements that are better dissolved.
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13. ADULT CHILDREN ARE IMPULSIVE

They tend to lock themselves into a course of action without giving serious
consideration to alternative behaviours or possible consequences. This
impulsivity leads to confusion, self-loathing, and loss of control over
their environment. In addition, they spend an excessive amount of energy
cleaning up the mess.

[Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·]

"SkyEyes" <skye...@cox.net> wrote in message

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On May 27, 11:24 am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·" <gregh...@home.fåke>
wrote:
> "Dakota" <ma...@NOSPAMmail.com> wrote in
> messagenews:ko07k8$i7t$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> >> Sing it, sister! I knew I was not mother material at age 11, and I
> >> was *right*. I admire the women who do have the motherhood gene -
> >> well, those who actually parent their child and don't merely grunt one
> >> out and then ignore it for the rest of its life - but I haven't got
> >> it, and I couldn't have done the job.
>
> Classic cop-out. You don't know how well you can do
> a thing until you try it.

Ah, but I *did* try it. I'm nearly 9 years older than my brother, and
our mother was a semi-invalid. I put in quite a bit of effort in
raising him, and he was a *good* baby who (apart from an early bout of
colic) didn't cry much. What little I did was enough to assure me
that I didn't have what it takes to parent a child..

==============[reply]==================

You are confused as a sibling is not a child. There is a bond
that develops between a mother and her infant. There is no
such bond that develops between siblings. To equate a sibling
with a child is erroneous.

And you were but a child yourself - only nine years old to begin
with. No nine-year-old experiences adult emotions.

--
Sir Gregory

[Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·]

"&" <am...@sand.com> wrote in message news:ko2f09$818$1...@speranza.aioe.org...

I fear that Jeanne is a *cafeteria* feminist. Like those *cafeteria* Catholics
who pick and chose those parts of Catholicism that suit them while rejecting
outright those parts that don't suit them, Jeanne seems to be doing the same
thing with feminism.

A prime tenet of feminism is equal pay for equal work. I see nothing wrong
with that concept. What I DO see wrong is how feminists define equal work.
A feminist demands months of paid maternity leave but fails to understand
that she is not working at all during that time period. She produces nothing
and is a net burden on her employer.

So, it follows if she really believed in equal pay for equal work, she would
examine how *unequal* her work is compared to a man who doesn't take
such leave and is productive the year around. If she REALLY believed in
equal work for equal pay under these circumstances she would willingly
acquiesce to LOWER pay to level the playing field. But, NOOOOOO!

Now, it would be nice if you would also stick to a discussion of the facts
instead of you constant attacks on the person. A real man doesn't need
to attack the woman. A real man needs only attack the brainwashing
mechanisms that produce the (faulty) woman. In this way a few more
rational women might be salvaged.

--
Sir Gregory

[&]

On 05/28/2013 03:10 PM, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· wrote:
> Now, it would be nice if you would also stick to a discussion of the facts
> instead of you constant attacks on the person. A real man doesn't need
> to attack the woman. A real man needs only attack the brainwashing
> mechanisms that produce the (faulty) woman. In this way a few more
> rational women might be salvaged.
>

i know i whipped that bitchs ego so bad mel gibson called to have us do
it again for passion ii . i said yes

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On Tue, 28 May 2013 14:42:31 -0400, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· put forth
the notion that:


> Sir Gregory
>

Learn to trim.

--
Checkmate
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AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012
co-winner, Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
Line & Sinker award, May 2001

Copyright © 2012

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[Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·]

"Checkmate" <Lunati...@The.Edge> wrote in
message news:6jvoam....@news.alt.net...

> Learn to trim.


When you learn to be relevant. IOW, when pigs fly!

--
Sir Gregory

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On Tue, 28 May 2013 16:51:13 -0400, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· put forth
the notion that:


>

> "Checkmate" <Lunati...@The.Edge> wrote in
> message news:6jvoam....@news.alt.net...
>
> > Learn to trim.
>
>
> When you learn to be relevant. IOW, when pigs fly!

You won't be doing any flying in this lifetime, unless it's off the end
of someone's boot.

[nature bats last]

On May 27, 11:32 am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·" <gregh...@home.fåke>
wrote:

> --
> Sir Gregory

On the one hand, I hear you saying there is something
intrinsic and innate about "boy things" and "girl
things", and that we must come to grips with these
natural distinctions... and on the other hand I hear
you saying that these "have to be taught". "Boys have
to be taught to be men. Girls need to be taught to be
women".

Which makes me rather question that first premise.

And then "It is important that each gender be taught to
do the things which that gender excels at"...I've got a
better idea: how about each kid be encouraged to pursue
whatever interests them?

I cannot remember how many times, when reading a
biographical sketch of a woman who has done outstanding
work the sciences or math or some other "men's field",
how many times, over and over, I encounter the same
trope, so often it seems almost a template: she and
her father were close, and he gave her endless and
unflagging encouragement to pursue whatever interested
her.

And so she did.


In a frontier society there may have been a necessity
for associating jobs requiring physical strength with
men.

That was then; this is now. With very few exceptions,
almost any job can be performed by either sex.

And should be.

I also suggest you survey the appartment of almost any
18-to-25 year old male away from home for the first
time, to disabuse yourself of the odd notion that only
girls should be taught to cook and wash dishes.


NBL

[john smith]

On May 27, 11:32 am, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·" <gregh...@home.fåke>
wrote:

> It is important that each gender be taught to do the things which
> that gender excels at - not some stupid idea of fairness involving
> everybody taking a turn at everything.

Why?

[Dakota]

It has apparently not occurred to Sir Gregory that, in most societies
throughout history, men defined what each gender excels at and
unsurprisingly determined that men excel at nearly everything and,
therefore, should be the only gender upon which to bestow the benefits
of education.

[john smith]

I'm asking a deeper question. Even if women were smarter and stronger,
why should we incentivize this bias with government money? Why should
we adopt a society like Brave New World? I don't see the reason. It's
some weird social darwinist crap as far as I can tell.

[Dakota]

If your name was Jane Smith or not such a misogynist, you would
understand. It's about equality.

[Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·]

"shiny" <a@b.ç> wrote in message news:XnsA1E28...@208.90.168.18...
> oinkyoinkygreghall <greghall@home.fĺke> wrote in
> news:bso7q8d2j8ae3ak97...@4ax.com:
>> On Mon, 27 May 2013 14:53:57 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
>> <greghall@home.fĺke> wrote:
>>
>>>You'd look real nice with a size ten boot up your ass, punk!
>>
>> Only a size ten boot? You're quite a diminutive nuisance.
>
> i've heard that the feet aren't the only thing that is small on the nellie.
>
> *giggle!*

Sexual fantasy about the desirable attributes of my package noted!

Stop it or you'll make Checkmate jealous. LOL!

--
Sir Gregory

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>

> "shiny" <a@b.ç> wrote in message news:XnsA1E28...@208.90.168.18...

> > oinkyoinkygreghall <greghall@home.fåke> wrote in

> > news:bso7q8d2j8ae3ak97...@4ax.com:
> >> On Mon, 27 May 2013 14:53:57 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
> >> <greghall@home.fåke> wrote:
> >>
> >>>You'd look real nice with a size ten boot up your ass, punk!
> >>
> >> Only a size ten boot? You're quite a diminutive nuisance.
> >
> > i've heard that the feet aren't the only thing that is small on the nellie.
> >
> > *giggle!*
>
> Sexual fantasy about the desirable attributes of my package noted!
>
> Stop it or you'll make Checkmate jealous. LOL!

Take a hike, you frootcake.

--
Checkmate
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co-winner, Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
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> Checkmate!
>
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:14:50 -0400, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq� put forth
> the notion that:
>
>
>>

>> "shiny" <a@b.�> wrote in message news:XnsA1E28...@208.90.168.18...
>> > oinkyoinkygreghall <greghall@home.f�ke> wrote in
>> > news:bso7q8d2j8ae3ak97...@4ax.com:

>> >> On Mon, 27 May 2013 14:53:57 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq�"
>> >> <greghall@home.f�ke> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>You'd look real nice with a size ten boot up your ass, punk!
>> >>
>> >> Only a size ten boot? You're quite a diminutive nuisance.
>> >
>> > i've heard that the feet aren't the only thing that is small on the
>> > nellie.
>> >
>> > *giggle!*
>>
>> Sexual fantasy about the desirable attributes of my package noted!
>>
>> Stop it or you'll make Checkmate jealous. LOL!
>
> Take a hike, you frootcake.

Damn, he's hitting on you again, Checky!

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>
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> >

> > On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:14:50 -0400, Sir Gregory Hall, Esqￜ put forth
> > the notion that:
> >
> >
> >>
> >> "shiny" <a@b.ￜ> wrote in message news:XnsA1E28...@208.90.168.18...
> >> > oinkyoinkygreghall <greghall@home.fï¿œke> wrote in
> >> > news:bso7q8d2j8ae3ak97...@4ax.com:

> >> >> On Mon, 27 May 2013 14:53:57 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esqￜ"
> >> >> <greghall@home.fï¿œke> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>You'd look real nice with a size ten boot up your ass, punk!
> >> >>
> >> >> Only a size ten boot? You're quite a diminutive nuisance.
> >> >
> >> > i've heard that the feet aren't the only thing that is small on the
> >> > nellie.
> >> >
> >> > *giggle!*
> >>
> >> Sexual fantasy about the desirable attributes of my package noted!
> >>
> >> Stop it or you'll make Checkmate jealous. LOL!
> >
> > Take a hike, you frootcake.
>
> Damn, he's hitting on you again, Checky!

He's constantly hanging on my leg. I can't get rid of him.

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> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:21:59 -0500, Funny Girl put forth the notion that:
>
>
>>
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>> > On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:14:50 -0400, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq� put forth
>> > the notion that:
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "shiny" <a@b.�> wrote in message
>> >> news:XnsA1E28...@208.90.168.18...
>> >> > oinkyoinkygreghall <greghall@home.f�ke> wrote in
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>> >> >> On Mon, 27 May 2013 14:53:57 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq�"
>> >> >> <greghall@home.f�ke> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>You'd look real nice with a size ten boot up your ass, punk!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Only a size ten boot? You're quite a diminutive nuisance.
>> >> >
>> >> > i've heard that the feet aren't the only thing that is small on the
>> >> > nellie.
>> >> >
>> >> > *giggle!*
>> >>
>> >> Sexual fantasy about the desirable attributes of my package noted!
>> >>
>> >> Stop it or you'll make Checkmate jealous. LOL!
>> >
>> > Take a hike, you frootcake.
>>
>> Damn, he's hitting on you again, Checky!
>
> He's constantly hanging on my leg. I can't get rid of him.

Why do I have these "jealous" feelings?

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> >
> > On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:21:59 -0500, Funny Girl put forth the notion that:
> >
> >
> >>
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> >> >

> >> > On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:14:50 -0400, Sir Gregory Hall, Esqￜ put forth
> >> > the notion that:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> "shiny" <a@b.ￜ> wrote in message
> >> >> news:XnsA1E28...@208.90.168.18...
> >> >> > oinkyoinkygreghall <greghall@home.fï¿œke> wrote in
> >> >> > news:bso7q8d2j8ae3ak97...@4ax.com:

> >> >> >> On Mon, 27 May 2013 14:53:57 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esqￜ"
> >> >> >> <greghall@home.fï¿œke> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>You'd look real nice with a size ten boot up your ass, punk!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Only a size ten boot? You're quite a diminutive nuisance.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > i've heard that the feet aren't the only thing that is small on the
> >> >> > nellie.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > *giggle!*
> >> >>
> >> >> Sexual fantasy about the desirable attributes of my package noted!
> >> >>
> >> >> Stop it or you'll make Checkmate jealous. LOL!
> >> >
> >> > Take a hike, you frootcake.
> >>
> >> Damn, he's hitting on you again, Checky!
> >
> > He's constantly hanging on my leg. I can't get rid of him.
>
> Why do I have these "jealous" feelings?

No need... I don't swing Gweggie-style.

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>
>>
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>> >
>> >
>> >>
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>> >> > On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:14:50 -0400, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq· put
>> >> > forth
>> >> > the notion that:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "shiny" <a@b.ç> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:XnsA1E28...@208.90.168.18...
>> >> >> > oinkyoinkygreghall <greghall@home.fåke> wrote in
>> >> >> > news:bso7q8d2j8ae3ak97...@4ax.com:

>> >> >> >> On Mon, 27 May 2013 14:53:57 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq·"
>> >> >> >> <greghall@home.fåke> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>You'd look real nice with a size ten boot up your ass, punk!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Only a size ten boot? You're quite a diminutive nuisance.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > i've heard that the feet aren't the only thing that is small on
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > nellie.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > *giggle!*
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Sexual fantasy about the desirable attributes of my package noted!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Stop it or you'll make Checkmate jealous. LOL!
>> >> >
>> >> > Take a hike, you frootcake.
>> >>
>> >> Damn, he's hitting on you again, Checky!
>> >
>> > He's constantly hanging on my leg. I can't get rid of him.
>>
>> Why do I have these "jealous" feelings?
>
> No need... I don't swing Gweggie-style.

Heh. I was beginning to think I was the only one.

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This entire thread offers nothing substantive to civil debate. Is it possible to avoid feeding your broken ego and try to have meaningful discussion?

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>>> by Checkmate!
>>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 21:14:36 -0500, Funny Girl put forth the notion
>>> that:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Checkmate" <Lunati...@The.Edge> wrote in message
>>>> news:6ll2fl....@news.alt.net...
>>>> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>> > posts by
>>>> > Checkmate!
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:21:59 -0500, Funny Girl put forth the
>>>> > notion that:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "Checkmate" <Lunati...@The.Edge> wrote in message
>>>> >> news:6lkdic....@news.alt.net...
>>>> >> > Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading
>>>> >> > posts
>>>> >> > by
>>>> >> > Checkmate!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 14:14:50 -0400, Sir Gregory Hall, Esq
>>>> >> > put forth
>>>> >> > the notion that:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >>

>>>> >> >> "shiny" <a@b.> wrote in message
>>>> >> >> news:XnsA1E28...@208.90.168.18...
>>>> >> >> > oinkyoinkygreghall <greg...@home.fke> wrote in

>>>> >> >> > news:bso7q8d2j8ae3ak97...@4ax.com:
>>>> >> >> >> On Mon, 27 May 2013 14:53:57 -0400, " Sir Gregory Hall,
>>>> >> >> >> Esq" <greg...@home.fke> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>>You'd look real nice with a size ten boot up your ass,
>>>> >> >> >>>punk!
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Only a size ten boot? You're quite a diminutive nuisance.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > i've heard that the feet aren't the only thing that is small
>>>> >> >> > on the
>>>> >> >> > nellie.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > *giggle!*
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Sexual fantasy about the desirable attributes of my package
>>>> >> >> noted!
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Stop it or you'll make Checkmate jealous. LOL!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Take a hike, you frootcake.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Damn, he's hitting on you again, Checky!
>>>> >
>>>> > He's constantly hanging on my leg. I can't get rid of him.
>>>>
>>>> Why do I have these "jealous" feelings?
>>>
>>> No need... I don't swing Gweggie-style.
>>
>> Heh. I was beginning to think I was the only one.
>>
>

> mheh. tis a very popular stance, methinks.

Thank goodness!