2012/12/21 – Israel’s 9-11?
Moderator
The date may vary. The events will vary less. The model is 9-11.
The false flag or provoked event when it occurs will plunge the world
into a true global war on alleged terrorism where everyone will be
considered a terrorist.
Some could argue this has already occurred; that 9-11 WAS the event. I
would argue that 9-11 was a national movement with international
implications. If it worked once, it can work again but it will be
larger in scale and scope. Next time it will be unarguably
international and an unmistakable state of fascism will be
implemented.
socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights
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2012/12/21 � Israel�s 9-11?
it's all bullshit you nazi kook!
Moderator
all their rights"
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> it's all bullshit you nazi kook!
I’m neither, Nationalist nor Socialist nor German although the roots
of the people’s of the British Isles may be considered Germanic. I
practice no specific religion but I am not an atheist. I do not hate
or promote hate against anyone or any group of people, even against
those who hate me or people like me or to which group I’m perceived to
represent or belong.
My family and I have experienced severe hardship for no reason other
than primarily external political forces beyond our control and when I
made that realization, I vowed to fight until my last breath for
justice in this world.
While I remain able to voice my opinion, nothing including ad homenim
attacks will deter me from expressing my beliefs or my thoughts.
You will simply have to accept this reality.
Lou Ravi
It certainly is. Apart from the end of the Maya Long Count (when another
will start) the date means nothing. I saw a 'documentary' on French TV
yesterday that pretended that the Maya, Nostradamus, uncle Tom Cobbley
and all had predicted the end of the world on this date. Only none of
them did. They laid great weight on the predictions of a certain Jean de
Jerusalem. A lovely text whose each verse began "at the beginning of the
thousand years after the first thousand years..." then the details of
all sorts of stuff concerning polution, hunger, war etc. Only problem is
it is a load of crap that seems to have been written about 1995.
I think, in my lifetime, they've promised (if that is the word) the end
of the world at least three times, so I'm not worrying too much
socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights
Then you need to wake up to the reality of the world, you live in. Forget
the Jew Stuff, and pay attention then, as the ADL uses terrorism to silence
views it does not like, example those who talk about the political potato
heads and them wanting a one world government, and the new world order. Why
would the ADL be runnnig scared about the truth. If you want to stand up and
fight the new world order kooks then good for you, but if you want to hear
your own voice then fuck off.
example of ADL terrorism....
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/rage-grows-in-America/default.asp
ADL Calls Alex Jones "Conspiracy King," Insinuates He Should be Removed from
Society
Wednesday, November 18, 2009
Now the ADL facist thought police has launched a new purge against its
political enemies in the form of a major
report http://www.adl.org/special_reports/rage-grows-in-America/default.asp
that equates skepticism and distrust of government with "a toxic atmosphere
of rage," which is threatening to boil over in the form of violence,
specifically targeting people like Alex Jones as "The Conspiracy King" and
inferring that people upset with Barack Obama's policies are potential mass
murderers. I can see now why you people really are insane terrorists.
The tone of the ADL's hit piece
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/rage-grows-in-America/default.asp
basically implies that Alex Jones and his ilk are such a threat to the
establishment that they should be removed from society, which ironically is
exactly how Hitler dealt with his political enemies in Nazi Germany. So now
you the ADL want to be just like Hitler himself by trying to force you
political veiws on everyone and those who disagree with your new policys on
the world, well send them off to the camp. What is wrong with this picture,
that your facism doesn't wash in the public eye. Your Group the ADL is
allegorically pinning a yellow star on "conspiracy theorists," Oath Keepers,
Tea Party protesters, and anyone else who dares express dissent in response
to the financial looting of the country or Barack Obama's big government
agenda.
And being concerned about that, makes myself really wonder where you people
brains are.
And what does the ADL consider to be the criteria for those it claims are
intent on carnage and bloodshed in the vein of cop killer Richard Poplawski?
A belief that, "There is a conspiracy by malevolent globalists to take over
the world and institute a "New World Order".
You got world leaders now demanding a New World Order who state that in the
mainstream media and yet you all remain silent as you did when Hitler was in
Power sending you people off to the camps.
So essentially by pointing out the fact that UN Secretary General Ban
Ki-moon writes op-eds for the New York Times calling for "global
governance," and highlighting the hundreds of mainstream news reports about
the move towards world government and a one world currency which are
published every single day, makes one a dangerous extremist and a crackpot
according to the ADL. Or useful idiots like this guy shouting a global
government, new world order statements,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TEBZKtSW3M or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26cQ3a7daw4
Another insane fringe belief according to the ADL is the notion that,
"Conspiratorial figures such as "international bankers" and entities ranging
from the Federal Reserve to the Council on Foreign Relations to the
Bilderberg Group are engaged in a variety of strategies to take over (or
extend their hold over) the government and to strip Americans of their
rights."
Who are you working for the Anti-christ that is coming into power and you
think this anti-christ is going to give a shit about you people...think
again.
That's right, believing that powerful secretive groups which meet in secret,
groups composed of the most influential power brokers on the planet, might
talk about ways to expand their power to the detriment of the American
people is another "fringe" belief suggesting the individual harboring such
thoughts is intent on mass murder.
The ADL attack goes beyond the failed establishment ploy to demonize
political opponents of Obama as "racist," and infers that they represent a
bubbling undertone of extremism waiting to explode in the form of
assassinations of authority figures.
The true significance of this gargantuan hit piece on Alex Jones and the
patriot movement is the fact that the establishment has firmly moved away
from ignorance and ridicule and is now directly targeting us for
elimination - an effective purge of the undesirables - by implying we want
to commit violence and should therefore be neutralized by the authorities.
The fact that we have constantly urged unity and discouraged division, while
promoting a peaceful message of non-violence, has infuriated the
increasingly incensed establishment because as their credibility has
collapsed, ours has grown in leaps and bounds - and as a result their agenda
is beginning to stall.
For the first time, the ADL and their cohorts are acknowledging that the
grass roots has the power to stop their agenda for world government in its
tracks. This represents a massive sea change and proves that we are having
an important impact, but it also serves as a warning because it's glaringly
obvious that the establishment is now committed to taking us down, either by
means of character assassination, set-up, or worse.
The globalists are intent on smearing us as racist, violent, crazies
hell-bent on bloodshed - when in reality they are engaged in desperate
character assassination because they are petrified at the sheer numbers of
people we are waking up to their tyranny.
This isn't the only motive the ADL has in attempting to make the case that
there are hordes of angry Americans waiting to commit violence. As Jewish
scholar Norman G. Finkelstein exposes in his global bestseller The Holocaust
Industry, establishment Zionist organizations like the ADL have fleeced
billions by manufacturing the perception that there are legions of extremist
hate criminals everywhere that need to be tackled by the authorities. The
ADL needs to create enemies and bogeymen where none exist in order to
justify their own existence and to continue to attract funding.
Now that global anti-semitism is on the wane, the ADL has resolved to
ceaselessly fearmonger about "conspiracy theorists" and American taxpayers
who merely express anger about how they have been financially raped by the
multi-trillion dollar bailout and the continued looting of the economy by
private central banks and offshore cartels.
The ADL report, which has been parroted by the Jerusalem Post and CBS News,
is heavy on insinuation yet woefully lightweight on any hard evidence to
back up their contention that politically disenfranchised Americans are
planning on committing violence.
The only concrete example they can muster is that of cop killer Richard
Poplawski, who the ADL claims was prompted to gun down Pittsburgh Police
Bureau officers by his embrace of "conspiracy theories". In reality, the
tragic incident was sparked by a domestic dispute after Poplawski's mother
called the cops on him because his dog had urinated on the floor. Poplawski
did not set out to kill cops because he believed in "conspiracy theories,"
but that didn't stop the ADL and others shamefully exploiting the tragic
episode in a crass attempt to demonize their political adversaries.
From the word go, the ADL seized upon the fact that Poplawski had posted a
few comments on Infowars, and in the days after the shootings were busy
concocting their own conspiracy theories about how the carnage was inspired
by Poplawski's extremist views and his affinity with Alex Jones.
However, in his comments, the cop killer was actually expressing opposition
to Alex Jones' anti-racist political viewpoint and encouraging others to be
suspicious of Jones' motives in bringing people of all races together to
stand up to tyranny and corruption. After numerous other blogs and websites
parroted the same smear, several, including Raw Story and Daily Kos later
issued retractions, acknowledging that Poplawski's ideology was in
opposition to that espoused by Jones.
Even aside from the fact that Poplawski was a critic, not a supporter of
Jones, let us suppose that an ardent supporter of Barack Obama goes out and
commits a crime - does that mean Obama himself is to blame? The ADL's
pathetic guilt-by-association smear doesn't even stand up to the most basic
scrutiny.
This was not the first time that the ADL has attempted to classify Alex
Jones and his websites as hate material. Several years ago they attempted a
similar stunt and were later forced to back down and retract their
statements after Jones sent them a letter informing them of their slanderous
accusations which were libel.
It is also noteworthy that clear evidence points to the ADL having had a
significant influence in the writing of the controversial MIAC report, which
equated Ron Paul supporters, libertarians and people who display political
bumper stickers with domestic terrorists and hate groups. The report later
had to be completely withdrawn after numerous different parties threatened
lawsuits on the back of the report's ludicrous assertions that third party
political candidates Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin were somehow tied
in with white supremacists and people like OKC bomber Timothy McVeigh and
Olympic Park bomber Eric Rudolph.
The only other tenuous example the ADL can dredge up in an attempt to
demonize the patriot movement as potentially violent is the story of Nancy
Genovese, a "New York woman whose conspiratorial beliefs led to her arrest
for trespassing on an Air National Guard base," states the ADL report.
In another section of the report, the ADL is forced to state that Genovese
was "allegedly trespassing" on a nearby Air National Guard base, because, as
reports state, Genovese was not trespassing at all since she was "outside
the Gabreskie Airport ANG facility," when she was arrested. The report also
fixates on the fact that Genovese owned guns despite the fact that they were
lawfully registered and Genovese had no prior criminal record.
The sum of Genovese's crime was essentially taking photographs of a military
base from public property. The ADL insinuates that this equates to the
notion that Genovese was planning some kind of rampage influenced by
"conspiracy theories," when no such motive can possibly be proven to exist.
The smattering of other examples the ADL cites to argue its case consist of
off-hand comments on the Infowars and Prison Planet websites made in
response to stories about police brutality. In each case, vague threats of
retribution lead to nothing whatsoever, but that doesn't stop the ADL
highlighting them as indicative of a deadly orgy of violence waiting to
explode.
Similar outrage was noticeably lacking when a Southern Poverty Law Center
proponent left comments on the SPLC website calling for Alex Jones to be
executed.
Of course, the irony behind the establishment constantly invoking domestic
terrorism and appropriating it with the patriot movement is the fact that
all the major acts of violence in connection with the militia movement
during the 1990's were committed by the government and federal agents.
It was an FBI sniper that killed Randy Weaver's son and also his wife as she
was holding their 10-month-old baby while running for cover during the Ruby
Ridge standoff in 1992.
It was the BATF that burned the Branch Davidian ranch to the ground, killing
seventy-six people including more than 20 children and two pregnant women,
during the Waco massacre in 1993.
And it was high level FBI officials that groomed Oklahoma City bomber
Timothy McVeigh in the run up to the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah
building in 1995.
McVeigh's accomplice Terry Nichols' revelation that McVeigh was being
steered by a high-level FBI official are supported by a plethora of evidence
that proves McVeigh did not act alone and that authorities had prior
warnings and were complicit in the bombing.
This is the true history of "domestic terrorism" and the militia movement.
In every instance, the terrorism has been carried out by the government and
the militia movement or the patriot movement have either been the victims or
the patsies, but don't expect the ADL to acknowledge that fact.
And now for the good news - if the establishment is so rapidly losing
credibility and their agenda is stalling to the point where they have to
move in the heavy artillery to aggressively attack a relatively unknown
Texas radio talk show host, then there can be no doubt that we are having a
massive impact.
Despite the fact that the military-industrial complex owns and controls
every single mainstream media outlet in America, allied with the sprawling
propaganda programs and billions of dollars in 'fake news' they produce,
they are still losing the battle for the minds of the American people to a
comparatively rag-tag group of alternative media outlets on the Internet.
This is why they have to resort to such gargantuan yet hopelessly flimsy
demonization campaigns in order to create a chilling atmosphere and prevent
more people coming over to our side.
By characterizing our political viewpoints as indicative of violent
extremists, the ADL and their cohorts are desperately trying to turn off
more people from joining our ranks and becoming informed.
The fact is, it's just not going to work. The establishment has lost all
credibility and them attacking us only makes us look better - it validates
everything we are saying as accurate. If we weren't such a threat to the
establishment's agenda then they would just ignore us. We are taking the
flak and this means that we must have the new world order running scared.
The levels that they are being forced to go to in an effort to purge our
influence from the arena of political discourse only reflects on how weak
their position is and how much trouble their agenda is now in.
Addressing the ADL and their cohorts directly, we say this; The people are
wise to your game - your pathetic and vacuous smears about white
supremacists and violent extremists may have worked in the 1990's but this
is a new century and a new era - the era of humanity reclaiming its
spiritual independence and freedom from blood-sucking parasites like you
that have attempted to crush free speech at every turn because you are
petrified that millions of souls are now beginning to see the true nature of
what you represent.
Though you may ultimately tear us down in whatever way you deem necessary,
the truth is that ideas are bulletproof, and our legacy will live on through
those that come after us while your empire of lies and deceit will
inevitably come crashing down as the world emerges into a new age of
enlightenment and throws off the chains of slavery imposed on humanity by
the process of the dark agenda that you front for.
William Black
> I�m neither, Nationalist nor Socialist nor German although the roots
> of the people�s of the British Isles may be considered Germanic.
I'll bet that's an idea that'll get your head kicked in if you happen to
mention it in a pub in Ireland...
Or Scotland for that matter...
> My family and I have experienced severe hardship for no reason other
> than primarily external political forces beyond our control and when I
> made that realization, I vowed to fight until my last breath for
> justice in this world.
So...
You're Jewish then...
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights
"Lou Ravi" <j.mu...@libertysurf.fr> wrote in message
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> socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights
> wrote:
> > "Moderator" <meld...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
news:764e5b20-9c9d-411b...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >
> > it's all bullshit you nazi kook!
>
> It certainly is. Apart from the end of the Maya Long Count (when another
> will start) the date means nothing. I saw a 'documentary' on French TV
> yesterday that pretended that the Maya, Nostradamus, uncle Tom Cobbley
> and all had predicted the end of the world on this date. Only none of
> them did. They laid great weight on the predictions of a certain Jean de
> Jerusalem. A lovely text whose each verse began "at the beginning of the
> thousand years after the first thousand years..." then the details of
> all sorts of stuff concerning polution, hunger, war etc. Only problem is
> it is a load of crap that seems to have been written about 1995.
>
> I think, in my lifetime, they've promised (if that is the word) the end
> of the world at least three times, so I'm not worrying too much
It's not going to happen as then the anti-christ will not get his day on the
earth then....with the one world government coming into play maybe the Maya
were refuing to the one order to come forth and from there the world is
distroyed...by government terrorism.
>
socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights
"William Black" <willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Moderator wrote:
>
>
> > I�m neither, Nationalist nor Socialist nor German although the roots
> > of the people�s of the British Isles may be considered Germanic.
>
> I'll bet that's an idea that'll get your head kicked in if you happen to
> mention it in a pub in Ireland...
>
> Or Scotland for that matter...
ya, good point....the bloody wanker... :-)
>
>
> > My family and I have experienced severe hardship for no reason other
> > than primarily external political forces beyond our control and when I
> > made that realization, I vowed to fight until my last breath for
> > justice in this world.
>
> So...
>
> You're Jewish then...
He not any of that...he wants to be...
Moderator
> Moderator wrote:
> > I’m neither, Nationalist nor Socialist nor German although the roots
> > of the people’s of the British Isles may be considered Germanic.
>
> I'll bet that's an idea that'll get your head kicked in if you happen to
> mention it in a pub in Ireland...
>
> Or Scotland for that matter...
>
I bet they likely are not as stupid as you apparently are.
Saxon:
The Saxons (Latin: Saxones) were a confederation of Old Germanic
tribes. Their modern-day descendants in Lower Saxony and Westphalia
and other German states are considered ethnic Germans (the state of
Sachsen is not inhabited by ethnic Saxons; the state of Sachsen-Anhalt
though in its northern and western parts); those in the eastern
Netherlands are considered to be ethnic Dutch; those in north eastern
Belgium are considered to be ethnic Flemish; those in northern France
are considered to be ethnic French; and those in Southern England
ethnic English (see Anglo-Saxons). Their earliest known area of
settlement is Northern Albingia, an area approximately that of modern
Holstein.
Angles:
The Angles is a modern English word for a Germanic-speaking people who
took their name from the ancestral cultural region of Angeln, a
district located in Schleswig-Holstein, Germany. The Angles were one
of the main groups that settled in Britain in the post-Roman period,
founding several of the kingdoms of Anglo-Saxon England, and their
name is the root of the name "England".
> > My family and I have experienced severe hardship for no reason other
> > than primarily external political forces beyond our control and when I
> > made that realization, I vowed to fight until my last breath for
> > justice in this world.
>
> So...
>
> You're Jewish then...
>
> --
> William Black
Not sure how you would reach the conclusion I'm Jewish based on the
information I've included in this post but as you are likely aware, I
have already stated in a previous post that I am indeed part Jewish
but would not be considered Jewish by most Jews. Clearly there's no
point in discussions with morons as you have amply demonstrated.
Moderator
>
> ADL Calls Alex Jones "Conspiracy King," Insinuates He Should be Removed from
> Society
>
> Wednesday, November 18, 2009
>
> Now the ADL facist thought police has launched a new purge against its
> political enemies in the form of a major
> that equates skepticism and distrust of government with "a toxic atmosphere
> of rage," which is threatening to boil over in the form of violence,
> specifically targeting people like Alex Jones as "The Conspiracy King" and
> inferring that people upset with Barack Obama's policies are potential mass
> murderers. I can see now why you people really are insane terrorists.
>
>
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If you had any idea of what a New World Order was, you would
understand that Alex Jones is a commercial and exploitative
entertainment entity making a good living off people who have an
intelligence level slightly above that of the mentally challenged.
That goes for other marketeers such as Jack Van Impe who also makes a
great deal about the term New World Order.
If you’re not that stupid, then you are complicit in the same game of
deception. If you seriously believe the ADL is the heart of the issue
rather than an example of something larger, I strongly urge you to
consider doing some research. Just as father’s and men’s issues is a
symptom, of a greater cause, so too is the ADL. Wake up stupid!
socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights
You stupid fuck I knew about the New world order kooks, even before I ever
heard of alex jones
>If you�re not that stupid, then you are complicit in the same game of
>deception.
Oh you mean like your fucking scambag bothers in the ADL, who will use every
lie going to silence poltical views that they are working with the global
elite to help create the one world government, so it can come to life...fuck
off crack whore, you are now my bitch to slap around as you are not bright
at all, when it comes to grasping the truth about government, and phony
commie groups who claim they represent jews...you see idiot I am a jew...and
proud of it but I will not fall for lies used by the ADL trash who really
are only criminals.
>If you seriously believe the ADL is the heart of the issue
>rather than an example of something larger, I strongly urge you to
>consider doing some research. Just as father�s and men�s issues is a
>symptom, of a greater cause, so too is the ADL. Wake up stupid!
I done more research into the ADL then you ever could din-bat, and I will
say of them trying to create a police state mentaility goes against my
rights and freedoms and these trassh bags will pay for their crimes. So if
you can't refute the facts you should keep your mouth shut otherwise.
here is why
The ADL's Three "Extremist Conspiracy Theories" In Context And With Evidence
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Wednesday, Nov 18, 2009
Related: Purging The Undesirables: ADL Attempts To Pin A Yellow Star On
Grass Roots America
http://www.prisonplanet.com/adl-attempts-to-pin-a-yellow-star-on-grass-roots-america.html
The Anti-Defamation League has published a fresh report directly targeting
Alex Jones as an "extremist" and "The King of conspiracy", lumping in the
information contained on this website with the actions of racists and white
supremacists.
There is, as usual, one major problem with the ADL's report - it is devoid
of any empirical fact and based entirely on the group's desire to create the
impression that huge swathes of politically disgruntled Americans are
violent conspiratorial-minded bigots that they must expose and counter.
"With conspiracy talk-show host Alex Jones leading the way, one of the most
disturbing trends in 2009 has been the resurrection and proliferation of
some of the same anti-government conspiracy theories that so riled up
domestic extremists in the 1990s." the ADL writes.
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/rage-grows-in-America/conspiracy-theories.asp
The organisation defines three major issues as "conspiracy theories" that
exist only in the mind of paranoid delusional extremists. They are:
. Imposition of Martial Law. The federal government is plotting to declare
martial law in the near future as a way to strip Americans of their freedoms
and institute the New World Order. The government may utilize or even
manufacture a crisis, such as the swine flu epidemic, in order to have an
excuse for imposing martial law.
. Gun Confiscation. The government is plotting to embark upon a massive
program of gun confiscation, going door to door to take firearms away from
American citizens so that they will be unable to resist the New World Order.
Police, the military and even foreign troops may be used in the gun
confiscation efforts.
. FEMA Concentration Camps. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
has constructed hundreds of concentration camps in the United States,
designed to hold "dissidents" and other American citizens following some
imminent crackdown such as a declaration of martial law.
Let's take each one of these topics and provide some much needed context
that is sorely missing from the ADL's slapped together hit piece.
With regards to martial law and the idea that a crisis could be used to
impose it, the ADL should consider speaking with Democratic Congressman Brad
Sherman of California's 27th congressional district and Senator James Inhofe
of Oklahoma.
Sherman has been a member of the House of Representatives since 1997 and
also serves on the Committee on Financial Services along with Texas
Congressman Ron Paul, whom the ADL ludicrously refer to in their report as
"a far right icon".
In early October 2008, Sherman told the House that he personally knew of
several Congressional representatives who have said they were threatened
with the prospect of all out martial law should they vote in opposition to
the $700 billion bailout that was eventually passed just over one year ago.
http://www.infowars.net/articles/october2008/031008Sherman.htm
"The only way they can pass this bill is by creating and sustaining a panic
atmosphere. That atmosphere is not justified." Sherman stated.
"Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this
bill on Monday that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three
thousand points the first day, another couple of thousand the second day,
and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America
if we voted no." The Congressman continued.
A few weeks later, Senator James Inhofe named Treasury Secretary Henry
Paulson as the source of the threat of martial law. Inhofe revealed that
Paulson made the threat during a conference call on September 19th, around
two weeks before the legislation was eventually approved by both the Senate
and Congress.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/paulson-was-behind-bailout-martial-law-threat.html
Congressman Brad Sherman and Senator James Inhofe, two extremist conspiracy
theorists according to the ADL's definition.
For years, Congress has operated under "martial law" provisions which force
members to vote on legislation without having time to adequately read and
review it.
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/09/republicans-and-democrats-agree-tyranny.html
In addition, the U.S. has been in a declared state of national emergency for
over 8 years. During that time it has emerged in several officially released
reports, FOIA acquired documents and leaked government memos that
preparation and planning is in the works for martial law style scenarios.
http://www.infowars.net/articles/december2008/161208Unrest.htm
http://www.infowars.net/articles/april2008/030408Memo.htm
Most recently Barack Obama declared a second national state of emergency
with regards to the swine flu epidemic. A national emergency allows normal
legal procedures regarding a certain issue to be sidelined, should the
federal government deem it necessary. Yet to even suggest that might be a
fact means you could be a mass murderer in the ADL's eyes.
Perhaps the most well known threat of martial law came in 2003 from General
Tommy Franks, the former commander of the military's Central Command.
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/11/20/185048.shtml
Franks outlined the scenario by which martial law would be put in place,
saying, "It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a
terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western
world - it may be in the United States of America - that causes our
population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our
country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing
event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution.
Two steps, very, very important."
The threat of martial law is real, even if the imposition of martial law is
yet to become a reality, yet to the ADL it is "extremist" to point out these
straight forward facts.
The second paranoid delusional theory according to the ADL is gun
confiscation.
The ADL says it is an extremist's fantasy that police and military could be
used to confiscate guns in the wake of a national emergency. However, this
is exactly what happened in New Orleans in the wake of hurricane Katrina in
2005, as the following video comprised of news footage, eyewitness
statements and police press conferences outlines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4
Again, the threat of gun confiscation is real.
Legislation to impose unprecedented controls on gun ownership is real.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/draconian-gun-law-guts-2nd-amendment-privacy.html
It was real when George W. Bush was president and it is still real now
Barack H. Obama is president.
http://www.infowars.net/articles/april2007/190407Second.htm
Over the last couple of years intense debate has raged over the very meaning
of the second amendment as new gun laws have been legislated and passed.
http://www.infowars.net/articles/march2008/190308Gunrights.htm
http://www.infowars.net/articles/december2007/211207Zelman.htm
I'm not an extremist for pointing this out, all I have done is read the
newspaper.
The third "extremist conspiracy theory", according to the ADL, is the
existence of FEMA camps. An anti-government delusional or a real and
pressing issue? Unlike the ADL, we will provide some evidence rather than
what "someone wrote on a forum" to help you decide.
Recent Legislation introduced into Congress mandates the establishment of
"national emergency centers" to be located on military installations.
http://www.infowars.com/new-legislation-authorizes-fema-camps-in-us/
The purpose of such facilities is to provide "temporary housing, medical,
and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an
emergency or major disaster," the expansion of which under FEMA is codified
under HR 645, otherwise known as the National Emergency Centers Act.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-645
Ominously, the bill states that the camps can be used to "meet other
appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security," an
open ended mandate which many fear could mean the forced detention of
American citizens in the event of widespread rioting after a national
emergency or total economic collapse.
The issue of containment camps re-gained national attention three years ago
when it was announced that Kellogg, Brown and Root had been awarded a $385
million dollar contract by Homeland Security to construct detention and
processing facilities in the event of a national emergency.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/040206halliburton.htm
The language of the preamble to the agreement veils the program with talk of
temporary migrant holding centers, but it is made clear that the camps will
also be used "as the development of a plan to react to a national
emergency."
Following the story, first given wide attention by Prisonplanet.com, the
Alternet website put together an alarming report that collated all the
latest information on plans to initiate internment of political subversives
and Muslims after the next major terror attack in the US.
http://www.alternet.org/rights/32647/
The article highlighted the disturbing comments of Sen. Lindsey Graham, who
encouraged torture supporting then Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to
target, "Fifth Columnists" Americans who show disloyalty and sympathize with
"the enemy," whoever that enemy may be.
It is important to stress that the historical precedent mirrors exactly what
the Halliburton camp deal outlines. Oliver North's Reagan era Rex 84 plan
proposed rounding up 400,000 refugees, under FEMA, in the event of
"uncontrolled population movements" over the Mexican border into the United
States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex%2084
The real agenda, just as it is with Halliburton's gulags, was to use the
cover of rounding up immigrants and illegal aliens as a smokescreen for
targeting political dissidents. From 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of
persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list.
As recently highlighted by author Naomi Wolf, the National Counterterrorism
Center holds the names of close to one million "terror suspects" with the
number increasing by 20,000 per month.
Discussions of federal concentration camps are no longer the rhetoric of
paranoid Internet conspiracy theorists, they are mainstream news.
Furthermore, a much discussed and circulated report, the Pentagon's Civilian
Inmate Labor Program, has recently been updated and the revision details a
"template for developing agreements" between the Army and corrections
facilities for the use of civilian inmate labor on Army installations."
http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf
The plan is clearly to swallow up disenfranchised groups like prisoners,
immigrants and Muslims at first and then extend the policy to include 'Fifth
Columnists,' otherwise known as anyone who disagrees with the government or
exercises their Constitutional rights.
Respected author Peter Dale Scott speculated that the "detention centers
could be used to detain American citizens if the Bush administration were to
declare martial law."
Daniel Ellsberg, former Special Assistant to Assistant Secretary of Defense,
called the plan, "preparation for a roundup after the next 9/11 for
Mid-Easterners, Muslims and possibly dissenters. They've already done this
on a smaller scale, with the 'special registration' detentions of immigrant
men from Muslim countries, and with Guantanamo."
Furthermore, In 2002, FEMA sought bids from major real estate and
engineering firms to construct giant internment facilities in the case of a
chemical, biological or nuclear attack or a natural disaster.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/080702camps.html
Okanogan County Commissioner Dave Schulz went public in 2003 with his
contention that his county was set to be a location for one of the camps.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/022703camps.html
Furthermore, in May 2006, we exposed the existence of a nationwide FEMA
program which is training Pastors and other religious representatives to
become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the
government" in preparation for the implementation of martial law, property
and firearm seizures, mass vaccination programs and forced relocation.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/240506femaplan.htm
This program is continuing under the Obama administration with churches
declaring that Barack Obama's presidency is appointed by God and that Obama
himself is "God's minister".
http://www.infowars.com/church-document-encourages-congregation-to-obey-government/
Of course, the authors of the ADL report will not thoroughly read this
article. They will not check the links to mainstream news articles and
official government documents.
They will simply take it as more evidence to use to smear Alex Jones, his
readers and the truth community. They will continue to lump in patriotic
Americans and freedom lovers everywhere with the activities of a minority of
racists and psychopaths that they choose to highlight.
More and more people are uniting in protest against the erosion of liberty,
embracing a peaceful revolution of information, their causes overlapping,
whether it be anti-war protesters, those against the bailout of private
offshore corporations or second amendment activists, the list goes on.
However, the ADL will continue to tell you that America is about to explode
into a cess pit of violence, rage and hatred. The ADL will always tell you
this because it has to, otherwise it will no longer have a purpose, it will
no longer receive funding, and like any organization it will go out of
business.
Once again, the anachronous ADL has proven that far from railing against
discrimination and division, it is engaged in actively promoting and
encouraging it by spreading libelous lies and concocting character
assassinations in order to ensure its own survival.
socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights
On Nov 18, 2:37 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Moderator wrote:
> > I�m neither, Nationalist nor Socialist nor German although the roots
> > of the people�s of the British Isles may be considered Germanic.
>
> I'll bet that's an idea that'll get your head kicked in if you happen to
> mention it in a pub in Ireland...
>
> Or Scotland for that matter...
>
>I bet they likely are not as stupid as you apparently are.
Look bitch, get back into your hole in the ground and do as your told,
before I back-hand you again...
Moderator
socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights
wrote:
I did not mean to imply the ADL were not a problem. I have merely
suggested the ADL is an indication of something much bigger.
Free speech and privacy has been under attack in North America for at
least thirty years. I personally find it dreadful, inexcusable and
very unnerving. Saying something the wrong way or using a particular
word over another could land a person in jail or in front of a
tribunal. What I find particularly suspect is that only now is free
speech starting to receive a modicum of defense and it coincides with
a larger number of immigrant Muslims. That’s not to say that Muslims
are necessarily fighting for free speech but rather, groups who have
benefited for years from the attack on free speech are only now
seeking to defend it since arguably, Muslims have joined the attack on
free speech. It’s a perverse political game and average citizens as
always are paying the price.
Regarding Alex Jones, you should understand that I also listen and
enjoy his program and videos. But that does not mean that I can accept
everything he says. Even he admits to having to “hit people over the
head in order to wake them up”. Overall, I think he’s doing a service
in raising people’s awareness and I think that’s a good thing. There
are also things he can’t say. It’s very complex and there are many
unknown factors in play since the groups in question are highly
secretive, well organized and well funded.
I do not fault you for your beliefs or criticisms of me, but I would
hope that you have tolerance for people who may be fighting the same
battle as you are. FWIW, I don’t believe the ADL are working for the
interests of the general public.
klunk
> before I back-hand you again...
lol... so says the nym-shifting anti-rights and anti-freedom freedumb
fighter of reich... 8-D
Errol
Clearly there's no
> point in discussions with morons as you have amply demonstrated.
Your moronic rants do NOT qualify as discussion.
Moderator
Your claim is without a reasonable explanation. If you would like to
challenge any of the points in my original post I'd be glad to make my
assertions clear.
William Black
> On Nov 18, 2:37 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> Moderator wrote:
>>> of the people�s of the British Isles may be considered Germanic.
>> I'll bet that's an idea that'll get your head kicked in if you happen to
>> mention it in a pub in Ireland...
>>
>> Or Scotland for that matter...
>>
>
> I bet they likely are not as stupid as you apparently are.
>
> Saxon:
> The Saxons (Latin: Saxones) were a confederation of Old Germanic
> tribes. Their modern-day descendants in Lower Saxony and Westphalia
> and other German states are considered ethnic Germans (the state of
> Sachsen is not inhabited by ethnic Saxons; the state of Sachsen-Anhalt
> though in its northern and western parts); those in the eastern
> Netherlands are considered to be ethnic Dutch; those in north eastern
> Belgium are considered to be ethnic Flemish; those in northern France
> are considered to be ethnic French; and those in Southern England
> ethnic English (see Anglo-Saxons). Their earliest known area of
> settlement is Northern Albingia, an area approximately that of modern
> Holstein.
No mention of either Scotland or Ireland there but you're still claiming
the whole of Britain.
'Britain' is a archipelago off the coast of North Western Europe.
The rest of the ethnicity stuff referring to Europe is absolute bollocks.
read up about migration period Europe and learn that half the central
Asian tribe went through it, mixing their genes with everyone they
could on the way.
Western Europe is incredibly mixed. There is no ethnicity linked to any
particular country, and anyone who says there is is either stark mad or
is trying to make some sort of political point.
>>> My family and I have experienced severe hardship for no reason other
>>> than primarily external political forces beyond our control and when I
>>> made that realization, I vowed to fight until my last breath for
>>> justice in this world.
>> So...
>>
>> You're Jewish then...
> Not sure how you would reach the conclusion I'm Jewish based on the
> information I've included in this post but as you are likely aware, I
> have already stated in a previous post that I am indeed part Jewish
> but would not be considered Jewish by most Jews. Clearly there's no
> point in discussions with morons as you have amply demonstrated.
>
OK, piss off then son.
Moderator
wrote:
> Moderator wrote:
> > On Nov 18, 2:37 pm, William Black <william.bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Moderator wrote:
> >>> of the people’s of the British Isles may be considered Germanic.
>
> - Show quoted text -
Thanks. You supported my argument that I'm niether Nationalist nor
Socialist nor German.
socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights
socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights
wrote:
> "Moderator" <meld...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:a1f908a1-8209-43e6...@h2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 18, 2:36 pm, "socialist that fear the truth but want to give up
> all their rights"
> <.....Obama.......the..saviour....@whitehouse,New.World.Order.UN.Global>
> wrote:
> > "Moderator" <meldo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
news:9b0d71d8-4340-4ff8...@f20g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> > On Nov 18, 1:25 pm, "socialist that fear the truth but want to give up
> > all their rights"
> > <.....Obama.......the..saviour....@whitehouse,New.World.Order.UN.Global>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > "Moderator" <meldo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> >
>news:764e5b20-9c9d-411b...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> > > 2012/12/21 ? Israel?s 9-11?
> >
> > > it's all bullshit you nazi kook!
> > >I?m neither, Nationalist nor Socialist nor German although the roots
> > >of the people?s of the British Isles may be considered Germanic. I
> > >practice no specific religion but I am not an atheist. I do not hate
> > >or promote hate against anyone or any group of people, even against
> > >those who hate me or people like me or to which group I?m perceived to
> > read more ?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> >
>
> >If you had any idea of what a New World Order was, you would
> >understand that Alex Jones is a commercial and exploitative
> >entertainment entity making a good living off people who have an
> >intelligence level slightly above that of the mentally challenged.
> >That goes for other marketeers such as Jack Van Impe who also makes a
> >great deal about the term New World Order.
>
> You stupid fuck I knew about the New world order kooks, even before I ever
> heard of alex jones
>
>
> >If you?re not that stupid, then you are complicit in the same game of
> >deception.
>
> Oh you mean like your fucking scambag bothers in the ADL, who will use
every
> lie going to silence poltical views that they are working with the global
> elite to help create the one world government, so it can come to
life...fuck
> off crack whore, you are now my bitch to slap around as you are not bright
> at all, when it comes to grasping the truth about government, and phony
> commie groups who claim they represent jews...you see idiot I am a
jew...and
> proud of it but I will not fall for lies used by the ADL trash who really
> are only criminals.
>
>
> >If you seriously believe the ADL is the heart of the issue
> >rather than an example of something larger, I strongly urge you to
> >consider doing some research. Just as father?s and men?s issues is a
And the ADL is attacking your's, mine and everyones free speech and
freedom....ask yourself why these people are so bent on trashing over
citizen's and what do they gain from this....
Moderator
failed miserably to provide your version and defer to Alex Jones as
your spokesman. Making a cogent argument may be challenging, but don't
you think you should learn how before you start back-handing your
allies? Just offering you some advice.
On Nov 19, 6:34 pm, "socialist that fear the truth but want to give up
all their rights"
<.....Obama.......the..saviour....@whitehouse,New.World.Order.UN.Global>
wrote:
> And the ADL is attacking your's, mine and everyones free speech and
> freedom....ask yourself why these people are so bent on trashing over
> citizen's and what do they gain from this....
>
> "Moderator" <meldo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1e33a6d7-2997-4455...@p33g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>
> socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights
> wrote:> "Moderator" <meldo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> http://www.prisonplanet.com/adl-attempts-to-pin-a-yellow-star-on-gras...
>
> > The Anti-Defamation League has published a fresh report directly targeting
> > Alex Jones as an "extremist" and "The King of conspiracy", lumping in the
> > information contained on this website with the actions of racists and
> white
> > supremacists.
>
> > There is, as usual, one major problem with the ADL's report - it is devoid
> > of any empirical fact and based entirely on the group's desire to create
> the
> > impression that huge swathes of politically disgruntled Americans are
> > violent conspiratorial-minded bigots that they must expose and counter.
>
> > "With conspiracy talk-show host Alex Jones leading the way, one of the
> most
> > disturbing trends in 2009 has been the resurrection and proliferation of
> > some of the same anti-government conspiracy theories that so riled up
> > domestic extremists in the 1990s." the ADL writes.
>
> http://www.adl.org/special_reports/rage-grows-in-America/conspiracy-t...
> http://www.prisonplanet.com/paulson-was-behind-bailout-martial-law-th...
>
> > Congressman Brad Sherman and Senator James Inhofe, two extremist
> conspiracy
> > theorists according to the ADL's definition.
>
> > For years, Congress has operated under "martial law" provisions which
> force
> > members to vote on legislation without having time to adequately read and
> > review it.
>
> http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/09/republicans-and-democra...
> http://www.prisonplanet.com/draconian-gun-law-guts-2nd-amendment-priv...
> http://www.infowars.com/church-document-encourages-congregation-to-ob...
> I personally find it dreadful, inexcusable and
socialist that fear the truth but want to give up all their rights
>I have asked and answered that question. By comparison, you have
>failed miserably to provide your version and defer to Alex Jones as
>your spokesman. Making a cogent argument may be challenging, but don't
>you think you should learn how before you start back-handing your
>allies? Just offering you some advice.
Hate to break it too you dimwit, but alex jones is not my spokeman for
anything, I have writen to the ADL MYSELF AND THEY LIKE YOU FEAR THE
TRUTH.... Instead you lap up every piece of disinformation posted by idiots
like the ADL who have a agenda with the global elite to push a one world
government and stupid fucks like you bow down to these criminals and
terrorists wishing to silence views that show what they are...no wonder you
can't figure it out, you been brainwashed boy.
ZerkonXXXX
> The date may vary. The events will vary less. The model is 9-11.
If you really want to go down this road, forget 9/11 and move from proved
historical certainty to certainty. Similar actions of the past that then
served as models. Starting with 9/11 is starting from inside the vacuum
of belief systems not fact.
cornholio
Tan klanners like you are just as bad.
klunk
"cornholio" <andx...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:9fadcf42-6e2a-49a0...@s15g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
lol... "tan klanner"....?..... I'll take your comment as meaning you're a
racist pos... oh well... freaks like you just don't get how embarrassingly
repulsive your ignorance is nor just how much you serve as an albatross
around humanity's neck and how much you contribute only to its
degradation... everyone else understands though, that such idiocy is merely
an expression from someone who is otherwise a failure at everything in their
lives... ;-)